@71GSX455 I do not know where you got that incorrect info from. I was there. I saw stock vettes run 14.80- 15.1. The few GN's we had at MIR ran high 13's all day long. One still had the window sticker pasted to the window. LOL we all laughed at that :>
For my money, the 86 and 87 GNs are the coolest cars GM ever made. The chainsaw sound is unmistakable. Even some basic mods yielded my friend 12 second 1/4 miles and a fun ass street car. Love em.
If GM had not discontinued the Grand National it wouldnt be a rare collector car now!!! I own a 96 Impala SS, Its my first collecters car,and I plan to get a GN one day!!!!
@VanCity1604 I wouldnt call a Delorean a collectors car either but it is... Look up the definition of a collector car!!! Pretty much any limited production car, or one that is in high demand because of its historical value!!!!
Wow great car, Love the look of those GNs. I guess you'd be a fan of the Ozzy XR6 Turbo Falcons too? Lots of them running 8s and 9s with basically stock 4.0ltr straight sixes. Gotta love Turbo big cars :).
Yes on the trans. It's built by Vince Janis, with a billet 911 converter. No on the shifter. I put my own Lightning Rods shifter out of an 83 Hurst/Olds so I can use the trans brake in L1 position easier.
especially i a V format, with all that moving mass. Not like an Inline 6, that naturally runs more balanced. Wonder what it would do with direct injection.
hell the only reason gm stop making gn's and gnx's is cuz they were out running corvettes and gm didnt want there best car being beaten by any of there own
The 1984 Montecarlo ss was the highest stock horespower for the 1980's ss. That Montecarlo ran in the mid 15's for the quarter mile. The stock Grandnational runs in the mid to high 13 seconds, their really isnt any comparison to be made between the two. If you get into aftermarket and talk about a 383 stroked engine with a better gear ratio and then a Grandnational with a better turbo and intercooler then the might run similar. I think the Camero Iroc-Z is closer to the Grand National stock wise
I have a GN and a stock monte carlo SS does not run in the same light. A monte with a done up 350 on the bottle does. Mind you, I really like monte's too, not taking anything away from them...very, very nice cars.
I bealive the Grand National is the best car from the 80's, it's been about 25 years and the car is already a legend. Thirty years from now it will be on par with the 67 Mustang. What a great car.
Is it a blasphemy to wonder if GM could (maybe, possibly) create a smart/flex fuel muscle car.. maybe into a new GN?? I mean, its not like they dont have the technology to do so, and with the way GM is looking through the economy, any idea is a great idea. Just saying....
The thing thats kind of nice about them killing off these cars' productions is that they weren't able to ruin them with newer models. The bad part is theres only so many that were made :(
Yes, lots of good ones have been discontinued, but this powerplant may come back in awesome form in about 9 years when the government puts the kabosh on V8's (sadly). We'll see.
i was reading an article in car & driver and they are building a turbo v6 to put in mustang gt's when they do away with v8's. its said to make anywhere from 250 to 300 hp.
Well the new Camaro makes 300hp out of a N/A V6. So Ford will HAVE TO do something to or about the 4.0L currently in there Mustangs if they want to compete.
Yeah I seen that one. But I was thinkin' they should look into doin' one more in line with the GN. Maybe put turbo in that 4.0 V6 or maybe even in a small block V8
@hpjim I know this is two years later but.. wasn't it Chevy that help put this power-plant six feet under? IIRC something about Buick having a faster car than their flag shit vehicle the Corvette.
@CrazyTacky Nah. It just turned sideways (transverse) in 88 cuz of the front wheel drive invasion in the late 80's. A supercharger on top replaced the turbo, then it went from 3.8 to a 3800. The Corvette thing was controversial in 1987, for the first time in history the Corvette wasn't the reigning American accelleration king. It was dethroned by a Buick. But not for long...
@hpjim was not dethroned one magazine had the buick at 13.85 and the vette at 13.97 but trust me i sold many G.N s in 87 and stock they never went better than low 14s.Chipped exhaust and drag radials then they flew.
@camirocz Agreed. I had a 1986 Mustang GT 5.0 with bolt ons and exhaust, and I was 3 for 5 against GN's, but only 2 of 4 against 'vettes. A friend had a GN that was chipped like you say, and then it did fly
@CrazyTacky Was not faster than the corvette that is a myth i use to sell grand nationals brand new in 87 and unless it was cold the car couldnt stay near a vette.low 14s thats it.A very cold Motor in a grand national started less than 10 minutes could give a vette a run after that forget it vette all the way!
No. It's a TE45A. I have upgraded 4 times to achieve the CFM capable of netting this E.T. My stock turbo would "shutter", this one "coughs" after shut-down.
@71GSX455 I do not know where you got that incorrect info from. I was there. I saw stock vettes run 14.80- 15.1. The few GN's we had at MIR ran high 13's all day long. One still had the window sticker pasted to the window. LOL we all laughed at that :>
leekoenig 2 weeks ago
For my money, the 86 and 87 GNs are the coolest cars GM ever made. The chainsaw sound is unmistakable. Even some basic mods yielded my friend 12 second 1/4 miles and a fun ass street car. Love em.
fortressofcomfort 4 months ago
not bad for an antique
dave777blaster 9 months ago
omg it jumped lol wow
craig1h 9 months ago
The 89 Turbo trans Am was also a Corvette killer when it came out running low 13s stock.
Marc99GT 1 year ago
@MaxPayne72
If GM had not discontinued the Grand National it wouldnt be a rare collector car now!!! I own a 96 Impala SS, Its my first collecters car,and I plan to get a GN one day!!!!
Sniperman1964 1 year ago
@Sniperman1964 i wouldnt call a 96 impala a collectors car
VanCity1604 10 months ago
@VanCity1604 I wouldnt call a Delorean a collectors car either but it is... Look up the definition of a collector car!!! Pretty much any limited production car, or one that is in high demand because of its historical value!!!!
Sniperman1964 9 months ago
what mods r done to it?
FateLovesFearless1 1 year ago
Locking the converter in 3rd gear? Sounds like it bogged.
edvlc7 1 year ago
Wow great car, Love the look of those GNs. I guess you'd be a fan of the Ozzy XR6 Turbo Falcons too? Lots of them running 8s and 9s with basically stock 4.0ltr straight sixes. Gotta love Turbo big cars :).
kramrollin69 1 year ago
Is Buick a GM vehicle? This has to be the best all round american car and I would actually buy one looks very executive
TVRnGTR 1 year ago
@TVRnGTR yea it is
heartboy86 1 year ago
I first saw one of these back in the late 80s and fell in love with it. I also like the GMC Syclone; both bad ass!! Nice car!
e5cmb 1 year ago
I first saw one of these back in the late 80s and fell in love with it. I also like the GMC Syclone; both bad ass!! Nice car!
e5cmb 1 year ago
great car! nice run!
crawlin82 1 year ago
Wicked what size trans are you running. What size injectors
BigFela32 2 years ago
impressive Buick Jim.!
Zzsmile 2 years ago
That's wicked! Streetable too, awesome.
electricshockproof 2 years ago
Are u running the 2004r and the factory shifter?
NICKCHEVYCOOPER92 2 years ago
Yes on the trans. It's built by Vince Janis, with a billet 911 converter. No on the shifter. I put my own Lightning Rods shifter out of an 83 Hurst/Olds so I can use the trans brake in L1 position easier.
hpjim 2 years ago
love Grand Nationals good video
D04srt4 2 years ago
holy shit he pulled the fuckin tires off the ground.
scwhockey41 2 years ago
the turbo helps......and the engin built my mclearen.
scwhockey41 2 years ago
especially i a V format, with all that moving mass. Not like an Inline 6, that naturally runs more balanced. Wonder what it would do with direct injection.
cooksta3276 2 years ago
nice my dads runs 10s were shootin for the 9s .........but u got to love the whistle
oohklu 2 years ago
I would buy a GN but they're never for sale!!
SuperChargedMustang 2 years ago
Huh? You can find them all day long on Ebay... so get off yer wallet. I just bought me one last week.
toomanymodz 2 years ago
having owned both a monte (86 SS) and a IROC (88 5.7) and driven a GN, the GN would blast both cars out of this world. not even close
a corvette from the same year as a GN is the only one that would stay with it and even like that, it wasnt always a win for the vette
SFI Turbo on an american 3.8L. Ingenuius
sixty9fordkiller 2 years ago 2
hell the only reason gm stop making gn's and gnx's is cuz they were out running corvettes and gm didnt want there best car being beaten by any of there own
210texas210pimp 2 years ago
The 1984 Montecarlo ss was the highest stock horespower for the 1980's ss. That Montecarlo ran in the mid 15's for the quarter mile. The stock Grandnational runs in the mid to high 13 seconds, their really isnt any comparison to be made between the two. If you get into aftermarket and talk about a 383 stroked engine with a better gear ratio and then a Grandnational with a better turbo and intercooler then the might run similar. I think the Camero Iroc-Z is closer to the Grand National stock wise
osurecruiting 2 years ago
I disagree the Monte Carlo Ss's sound look & run better in my opinion
richyrich4566 2 years ago
You have to be kidding.
A Monte Carlo SS was SLOW. The GN would put bus lengths on it in the quarter mile.
Boostnitup 2 years ago 10
a 305 is shit. fastest car of the 80's ringing a bell?
cliffgod333 2 years ago
I have a GN and a stock monte carlo SS does not run in the same light. A monte with a done up 350 on the bottle does. Mind you, I really like monte's too, not taking anything away from them...very, very nice cars.
timbitski 2 years ago 2
wtf??Monte Carlo? ar we talking factory ? thats like saying a full grown chimpanzee can beat up a full grown silverback
:0 way off
cheeesefunnel 2 years ago
I bealive the Grand National is the best car from the 80's, it's been about 25 years and the car is already a legend. Thirty years from now it will be on par with the 67 Mustang. What a great car.
osurecruiting 2 years ago 3
First v6 car to be dubbed a muscle car, hell yeah I agree, nuff said
juanjo322 2 years ago
sweet fucken car man
shazaammmm 2 years ago
is it still an v6?'
yomonstruo 2 years ago
YEAH THATS THE EXHUAST V6
dfkjyhnoetyujh 3 years ago
I want one..
DaveStarr666 3 years ago
I need one of those in my life
boss12 3 years ago 3
Sounded like it was breaking up on top end.
TwiztedTurbo 3 years ago
It did didn't it?
scott93257 3 years ago
Nahw.. thats the turbo baby.
whydeyhate 3 years ago
Must be the turbine scraping the inside of the housing.lol.Might wanna check that out.
TwiztedTurbo 3 years ago
i think thats just the wide open exhaust
ckozak10 3 years ago
Is it a blasphemy to wonder if GM could (maybe, possibly) create a smart/flex fuel muscle car.. maybe into a new GN?? I mean, its not like they dont have the technology to do so, and with the way GM is looking through the economy, any idea is a great idea. Just saying....
kc2california 3 years ago
Theres no gas stations for it and whats the point?
Some guys run E85 at the track, not as popular as alcohol though.
The only people who run flex fuel on the roads are mostly fleet owners.
Timothayyy 3 years ago
and ill bet you still managed to get 20mpg lol
UnsettledParadox 3 years ago
i love the way it sounds sounds like a rig
Dran55 3 years ago 6
The thing thats kind of nice about them killing off these cars' productions is that they weren't able to ruin them with newer models. The bad part is theres only so many that were made :(
SonOfRDGear 3 years ago
they're comin back with camaro's...who's to say they won't decide to make a new grand national?
gsxRrenegade816 3 years ago
Yes, lots of good ones have been discontinued, but this powerplant may come back in awesome form in about 9 years when the government puts the kabosh on V8's (sadly). We'll see.
hpjim 3 years ago
i was reading an article in car & driver and they are building a turbo v6 to put in mustang gt's when they do away with v8's. its said to make anywhere from 250 to 300 hp.
jbreezy07 3 years ago 2
they aren't doing away with the v8 though, they are bumping it up to a 302 and making it a more highend model.
86cookiemonster 3 years ago
Well the new Camaro makes 300hp out of a N/A V6. So Ford will HAVE TO do something to or about the 4.0L currently in there Mustangs if they want to compete.
Timothayyy 3 years ago
They should make a Turbo Mustang
boss12 3 years ago
they did... SVO, years ago. Turbo 2.3L, Huber has one that runs in the 9's on the bumper.
poorboychevelle 3 years ago
Yeah I seen that one. But I was thinkin' they should look into doin' one more in line with the GN. Maybe put turbo in that 4.0 V6 or maybe even in a small block V8
boss12 3 years ago
They did, and they're making another one soon.
terbo2000 3 years ago
@hpjim I know this is two years later but.. wasn't it Chevy that help put this power-plant six feet under? IIRC something about Buick having a faster car than their flag shit vehicle the Corvette.
CrazyTacky 1 year ago
@CrazyTacky Nah. It just turned sideways (transverse) in 88 cuz of the front wheel drive invasion in the late 80's. A supercharger on top replaced the turbo, then it went from 3.8 to a 3800. The Corvette thing was controversial in 1987, for the first time in history the Corvette wasn't the reigning American accelleration king. It was dethroned by a Buick. But not for long...
hpjim 1 year ago
@hpjim Thanks for the reply.. and for all reading my previous comment: "flag shit" was a typo.. I meant "flag ship".
Though now that I read it.. it's kinda funny.
CrazyTacky 1 year ago
@hpjim was not dethroned one magazine had the buick at 13.85 and the vette at 13.97 but trust me i sold many G.N s in 87 and stock they never went better than low 14s.Chipped exhaust and drag radials then they flew.
camirocz 1 year ago
@camirocz Agreed. I had a 1986 Mustang GT 5.0 with bolt ons and exhaust, and I was 3 for 5 against GN's, but only 2 of 4 against 'vettes. A friend had a GN that was chipped like you say, and then it did fly
marcomariaz26 11 months ago
@hpjim Am I missing something? A 3.8 and a 3800 are the same thing.
label1877 8 months ago
@label1877 uh yeah dude wtf kind of question is that??
1SICKVETTE 7 months ago
@CrazyTacky Was not faster than the corvette that is a myth i use to sell grand nationals brand new in 87 and unless it was cold the car couldnt stay near a vette.low 14s thats it.A very cold Motor in a grand national started less than 10 minutes could give a vette a run after that forget it vette all the way!
camirocz 1 year ago
that is a real sleeper!! i like the stance of the way it posted up, cant beat it...
sabrom19 4 years ago
Nice run! That's a FAST street GN for sure. I thought my 11 sec GN was quick.....gezzz!!
QuickBuick87 4 years ago
nice run
1vegaracer 4 years ago
I love it!
KnightChatX 4 years ago
Yeah and I hear poppin too like has bit of an air leak somewhere.
KnightChatX 4 years ago
No. It's a TE45A. I have upgraded 4 times to achieve the CFM capable of netting this E.T. My stock turbo would "shutter", this one "coughs" after shut-down.
hpjim 4 years ago
I launch at 23 lbs. of boost, it allows 5 more lbs. to build up after leaving and nets a low 60' time. I don't know what rpm that is.
hpjim 4 years ago
And that is why I want a transbreak this year...leaving at 8-10lbs doesnt do it for me liek it use to : P
H2Prince 4 years ago
wow he let off and still ran 10...thats a quick car!
400SBCtwins 5 years ago
sounded liike it was misfiring? damn nice though,, one wheel wheelie
toreyjw1 5 years ago