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  • i think whatever it is, please dun critise any religion. all religion exist for a reason, has it root n origin and power. Bottomline, no religion teach pple to do bad thing, so it does not matter which u believe in.

    So, dun comment thing on religion which will offend pple, like ridiculous body spasms etc.

    Cheers

  • Good..at least have some sort of Asian religious traditions..or else Singapore is fast becoming a society without a soul where the chinese youngsters are all being converted into Christianity and OMG, speaking in tongue,arms shaking..

  • @nusld

    Singapore embraces religious freedom, What's wrong with youngsters being converted into Christianity? Being a Christian doesn;t mean denying one's cultural roots.

  • Are you not also implying the ridiculousness of Taoism in which there are similar bodily spasms when certain rites are performed? You are simply not addressing the issue! Don't ever stray into religious matters and offend religious sensibilities.

  • @zaxle12

    "Taoism ridiculous with bodily spasms when certain rites are performed"..please elaborate..thanks.

  • hihi! may i kno y is seu teck siang tng doin ritual @ ngee ann city?

  • I don't know. But the connection I can see is that Ngee Ann City is part-owned by the Ngee Ann Kongsi which is a Teochew association. The grounds there originally belongs to the Ngee Ann Kongsi. [Ngee Ann is the historical name for the Teochew region of Guangdong Province]

  • tankegui, this is not 德教。

    善堂culture and beliefs is a mixture of Buddhism and Folk culture. the main idol of worship in all 善堂 is 宋大峰祖师 ,a historical Buddhist monk who went to chaozhou to help the needy.

    In teochew districs of ancient China, these 善堂 also function as charity organisations. 善堂 s in Singapore, malaysia and Thailand are still very much involved in many religious and charity work in the Chinese community.

  • 4)Zi Jing Ge of Hong Kong.

    ... On the walls of the worship hall are portraits of Confucius, Lao-tsu, Sakyamuni ( Buddha ), and Christ, and a frame with a moon cresent and star signifying the founder of Islam.""

    The Jap. writer Kazao: likely to be from Nanzan University .. SHUBUNKEN/publications.

    Hope above info helps:)

  • 3)..for men}

    智 wisdom,zhi4; 义 righteousness,yi4; 礼 propriety,li3; 仁benevolence,ren2; 耻 sensibility to shame,chi3;? [慷慨?] unselfishness, ?;

    NB:Chinese word given in the article for unselfishness is simplified to 帘 [HYPY: lian2] and meaning "wine shop sign"! not "unselfishness" !

    It is claimed that the five great world religions have these virtues in common with Dejiao..

    Objects of worship in Dejiao differ somewhat according to org. but article concentrated on the Zi Jing Ge of Hong Kong.

    See 4)

  • 2)..in areas who suffered from disease and poverty. This kind of charitable activity is continued by the Dejiao organisations even after spreading to areas other than the Chinese mainland >>

    Ref: Jap. Journal of Religious Studies 1988 by Yoshihara Kazuo( 吉原和男 ).. Dejiao: A Chinese Rel. in Southeast Asia.

    Following teachings are emphasized: " Morals "(德,de2) consists of ten virtues:-

    孝 filial piety, xiao4; 悌 respect/obedience, ti4; 忠loyalty,zhong1; 信faith,xin4;{the 4 de [si4 de2] for men} >see 3)

  • YES...this was part 1 of 3 postings.

    see Teochew Religious Ceremony - 2/3 and also 3/3.

  • Any part (2) on the way ?

  • 1) This org./ 善堂 shantang is probably related to Dejiao 德教 .

    Dejiao arose in 潮州 Chaozhou area of Guangdong Province in 1939, the year of the outbreak of WW II.....

    Soon after the outbreak of the Sino-Japanese war, three men, the three founders : 杨瑞德 Yang Ruide, 马德三 Ma Desan, 王德藻 Wang Dezao; " seeked spiritual guidance" which revealed to them that they should establish Dejiao to save the world... that they must provide medical and material assistance to those in areas who .. Plse see (2)

  • taoism if im not wrong

  • Just wondering is this ceremony Daoism, Buddhism or Confucianism based?

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