How To Make A Climbing Pitch Sounding Synth

[89Psycho89]

FINALLY!

[djhapka]

Great tutorial! I am having my synth stop climbing though at about 5 1/2 measures, it just goes back to the base note and doesn't climb anymore at all. Any ideas why by chance? :\

[TehUndeadCpt]

Straight up dude. I love you, I haven't been able to figure out how to do this for weeks :D

[N8withoutSound]

when I do this, the pitch starts climbing again before I want it to. Like, I have an 8 bar climb and it will start over somewhere before usually around the 6th or 7th bar. help plz.

[DjCrazyDisciple]

@N8withoutSound Move the attack knob under the env2

[DutchElectro]

Awesome! You're a nice producer man, i love your tuts!

[8012432615184]

@DutchElectro I love his tits too

[SharpChurR0]

Why don't I have the hard clip insert effect D:

[bertthepickle]

Hey Ryan

First of all great video. Well Explained Thanks. Second, I was having the same pitch problem that others have had below - it not rising or cutting off too short. The problem is with the LFO & setting. Just tweak (reduce) the rate down and the pitch will rise for a long time. Certainly 16 bars worth anyway. My riser still doesn't sound as crispy as yours but I'll keep tweaking. Cheers

[bertthepickle]

@bertthepickle that should read LFO 7 setting. The one you mentioned as not doing anything. Sorry, mate but it does ;)

[DjFrankPhilip]

will it not go out of key of you do this?

[MrEarattic]

for some reason my massive doesn't have "clip" for insert 1 or 2

[TranceCartelOfficial]

CAN YOU PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEEEEEEE PLEASEEEEEEEEEE DO THIS FOR SYLENTH1 PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! IT'S KILLING ME NOT BEING ABLE TO DO IT! THANK YOU SO MUCH RYAN!!

[wesself2]

great vids you got.

i subbed!

[LyonsRecords]

yes thank you can i use this in my new Complextro tune

[djvincentvega]

same here, pitch drops back down, when i hold a note its pitching long till the end of the envelope, if i play new note pitch starts again from the beginning

[djvincentvega]

same here, pitch drops back down, when i hold a note its pitching long, if i play new note pitch starts again from the beginning

[pshottz]

I can only get the pitch to raise for 2 bars, then it drops back down. How can i get it to raise for 8 bars?

[BrandonOlsen12]

@pshottz if you want it longer, instead of using the envelope to control the rising action, use LFO 5 and set it to the triangle wave. from there select sync and set the ratio to your desired length (such as 8-1, 12-1, 24-1). You can also select how far you want it to rise with each oscillator. Basically wherever you used Env2 replace it with a Triangle LFO

[BigB3250]

Crikey! why don't you speak abit more.

[CrackheadLogan]

ok guys im 14 years old and im a smart for this stuff? and where do i go for all this stuff to buy

[CrackheadLogan]

ok will someone help with what i should get for a beggener dubstep maker

[bossman2440]

@CrackheadLogan beginner*..your name is rather fitting considering you spell like a crackhead

[XxXDevilRejectsXxX]

can you please tell me how to change the LFO rate after you have made your sound in massive? thank you.

[Dreamresearchmusic]

I JUST BOUGHT YOUR SONG LAMP FROM BEAT PORT RYAN. IT'S HOT TOO. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE THROUGH YOUTUBE. YOU ARE ONE DOPE ASS PRODUCER, TEACHER, AND MENTOR. YOU GIVE ME INSPIRATION AND KEEP ME STRIVING TO MASTER MY ART. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK. THANKS ALOT. WILLIAM DREAM RESEARCH MUSIC , ATL, GA

[batllama]

you sound like murray from flight of the conchords haha

[SpHiNxBoNg]

solid, dont have hard clipper either. Would saturator (in ableton) have a similar effect?

[MrRjzam]

@mw2king89 still not an excuse I'm sure if u were really interested music production ur parents would buy u it! Or get a little job for urself and save up for it , then when u get it feel like u've earned it and want to learn the thing properly instead of ripping  off every synth going! How would u feel if uve finally nailed that song, and u don't make nothing from it coz every1 stole it for free on the net?

[mw2king89]

@MrRjzam hmmm true. but my parents said they DONT want to buy me massive, so torrenting it is waaayy faster. if i had the mula at the time i would have gotten it, but i didnt. the only downside is that its version 1.01 :( but still better than not having it at all. btw i AM serious with music production. check this:

/watch?v=VFxabkwv9fU

[mw2king89]

I don't have harclipper

[OfficalDirtyMonkey]

Insane! Like fucking Crookers!

[SeagullFilms]

I don't have hard clipper too 

Where can i get that shit?

[superawesomedrum]

Lol put all the number 2's in the boxes :3 Good tutorial though!

[Thedeyudj]

i don't have hard cliper..

[tript3kk]

i dont have hard clipper. torrented massive is this why?

[KevinKenyonMusic]

Mine came out all shitty!?D:

Did you automate something?

Cuz i did excactly what you had but it didnt turn out the way it was supposed to be.

[MrRjzam]

@mw2king89 buy the fucking thing! It doesn't cost much for what u get! I hate it when people steal software and honest peoples have to work hard and save for stuff they want!

[mw2king89]

@MrRjzam Well, I'm 13. I don't have the money.

[pivotman999]

It's just making a wub-wub sound

I don't have clip, if that makes a difference

[mw2king89]

IF ANYONE CAN EMAIL ME MASSIVE, SEND ME A PM

[pivotman999]

@mw2king89 HEY, HEY RETARD, IT'S CALLED TBP learn to look and not just ask

[mw2king89]

@pivotman999 wut

[mw2king89]

@pivotman999 what the hell is TBH

[pivotman999]

@mw2king89 TPB***

[mw2king89]

@pivotman999 why did u remove it? also, what the fuck is that.

[pivotman999]

@mw2king89 I removed it because I sent the same think twice.

TPB

**I acidentally wrote TBH and TBP

Anyways google TPB

[mw2king89]

@pivotman999 ok, but what does it mean? torrent pirate bay?

[pivotman999]

@mw2king89 Holy shit your stupid. 1. go to thepiratebay, it is an . org website

2. search native instruments (Or massive, whatever works)

3. torrent it via Utorrent or Bittorrent (I use utorrent)

4. You have to look a the instructions to install it properly. There is a file you have to replace or something

5. Get massive for free

???

PROFIT

[mw2king89]

@pivotman999 or, use magesy(DOT)me and get free stuff there its like 400x better than TPB

[funkypriest08]

ah i have an annoying problem! my synth doesn't go the full 8 bars, it just stops rising at about 7 and a half bars and then just goes flat! does anyone know how to fix this? thanks

[venim619]

I'd rather use automation than the envelope for the pitch build, but to each their own I guess.

[beastone2]

Removing the LFO on the cutoff on the lowpass filter can be nice when Ur mixing up a build up, kinda making it more intense then the previous climb :)

great video's mate, i absolutely love them. and with the quality of your videos you should be getting paid for this pure gold. love the work mate. keep it up

lots of love from Canada !

[DjSens3]

well, i really hate Massives interface and where all the controls are hidden, but after seeing this, i might consider learning it closer:)

[mikenaim90]

does massive play a major role in your song creation?

[nzmusic101]

@mikenaim90 sure does :-)

[mikenaim90]

@nzmusic101 then i think i'm gonna start using it more often.. : )

[kirdook]

@nzmusic101 you might even say it plays a MASSIVE role

eh? eh? nobody? okay

[spontaneous09]

what did u have going on in lfo 7? kuz it works for me without routing the lfo 7 on env 2...i think lfo 7 automates the wobbleness i guess towards the end of the rise...in the track you have...just a thought

[Chatlistic]

I seem to be having the same problem everyone else is. I can't seem to get it to keep pitching with short stabs. Only when I hold the note down. I even tried what JimHarren wrote at the bottom and I still can't get it to work =/

anyone?

[MrHeavytunes]

Great tutorial! But I have to ask you, is this Logic, and if so, which instrument are you using to create this awesome sound?

Thanks so much!

[MrHeavytunes]

Great tutorial! But I have to ask you, is this Logic, and if so, which instrument are you using to create this awesome sound?

Thanks so much!

[Tomlinggggg]

Those are some nice drum samples! if they are samples? aha!

what have you used for the drums?

Amazing tutorials! Good work! :D

[nzmusic101]

@Tomlinggggg just random samples that i have layered over the years and kept on bouncing them etc. But i use a lot of vengeance samples :-)

[MrBenGarcia]

@nzmusic101 Hey, how do i go about making my own samples and like layering drums? I'm kinda new to all of this.

[F1NNAZ]

What drum plug ins are you using?

[JimHarrenDjProducer]

I figured the pitch problem out guys Now when I followed this tutorial i made sure everything that nzmusic101 did, I did Once the tutorial was over the synth i created would only change pitch if I held down the note but wouldn't raise in pitch if i made a pattern using short notes You have to change the release knob on the amp envelope (4 Env) and the release on what ever envelope you set the pitch changing to. Try moving both of these knobs all the way to the right . Hope this works for every1

[TheHevquip]

Meh, I just hit the lowest note, turn portamento all the way up, hold the high note until it climbs and peaks and sample the result.

[WeeklyGameFame]

i love you video's but you left out many things that were already set that i do not know how to do :/

[moldyfig]

I've found that using the sawtooth LFO works much better than an envelope on the pitch. You can set the rate to the exact number of bars you want the pitch to climb or dive for- 4/1, 8/1, 16/1, etc. A positive number will make the pitch dive, and a negative will climb.

[Grodpojken]

I've think I've found a fix ;) TIPS: may not work for everyone but worked for me... Go to "4 Env", and drag the "Release" so it points at the first "e" after "R". Basicly, just drag up the Release in Envelope four, but not too much (because then it gets stuck)

[Grodpojken]

When are you fixing the rising pitch?

[CSKforlifeee]

can you make a video on how to make the transformers sound. You know the really weird glitchy kinda sound. Thanks!

[loonypoop]

this is fucking awsome but im having trouble with the pitch reseting

[imcrazybyselena]

I Fucking Love You ! Thanks !

[LuxiconLaMena]

Another update to make things clear over here:

* With short notes, the pitch reset

* With long notes it works for 8 bar only.. tried a lot, but I can't get it further

* LFO is nice for stuttering, but in the video it has no effect (?)

* Other envelope settings doesn't help, but is very nice for tweaking

[117DJAckson]

@LuxiconLaMena

just use tweek the pitch within the piano roll for each note and it will have simular pitch build up effect

[LuxiconLaMena]

@117DJAckson

Thanks for the tip!

Will try that soon :-)

[LuxiconLaMena]

Same here. Pitch reset. But with longer notes it continues.

I noticed that the lfo @ lowpass makes sense then. It 'stutters' then.

Without the lfo, the notes are long. Kinda logical..

But if you change the 'gate' to another setting @ envelope 4, you also won't have short notes, but longer. With short notes. But then the pitch still resets all the time.

[subhanero92]

real useful tutorials , why your videos havent got thousands of views ¿?!

[ShaggyBoiiofc]

ur fuckin amazing

[beatdownthek1d]

oops! my last comment only applies to Ableton users. i'm sure it can be translated into logic/fruity loops though!

[beatdownthek1d]

to those having trouble with the pitch effect using short notes: record the midi track as an audio track. from there, open the clip editor on your audio track. click the small 'e' at the bottom left corner of your clip editor to open a new sampling window. click transpose, and automate the pitch that way! it worked perfectly fine for me, and gives you more control over the pitch bending.

i hope this helps!

[hugenjapan]

hey i was just wondering how to make the pitch start from the lower pitch every time you press play.. i'm using ableton and when i press the space bar it starts playing then i press it again to stop but then when i press it again it restarts the song but the pitch is at the same level as where it left off not low again

[nzmusic101]

@hugenjapan Yea i have had a few people tell me this! i keep meaning to troll through my computer to see if i could find this project to see how i did it again! hopefully i will find out and get back to you! :-)

[hugenjapan]

@nzmusic101 Thanks dood you're very inspiring and helpful!

[JHiZ06]

@nzmusic101 I'm curious to know if you ever found this project... When I hold the note down, then the pitch climb happens.. however for some reason when using the midi sequence you used, it down pitch up over tiem. It just retriggers back and forth from C3 to C4 without pitching all the way up over time... any idea why this is happening?

[nzmusic101]

@JHiZ06 haha no damnit! i look everywhere but never found it! so annoying because even i really want to use this sound again! I know of a few people who have got it to work and they told me they loved the sound! but as for me i have had no luck in getting it to work which sucks!

[TheRealEricLam]

@hugenjapan until you figure it out i would just bounce to track or as an audio file

[JimHarrenDjProducer]

@hugenjapan

I figured the pitch problem out guys Now when I followed this tutorial i made sure everything that nzmusic101 did, I did Once the tutorial was over the synth i created would only change pitch if I held down the note but wouldn't raise in pitch if i made a pattern using short notes You have to change the release knob on the amp envelope (4 Env) and the release on what ever envelope you set the pitch changing to. Try moving both of these knobs all the way to the right .

[nzmusic101]

@JimHarrenDjProducer Your my hero bro! Soo many people have wanted to figure this problem out with very little luck! i mean i would have helped try to figure it out except i lost that preset file and logic project file! good on you!!!

[DjSens3]

@hugenjapan pitch envelopes!

[JulCanada]

hey there thanks for your vids i love them!

I think I have followed pretty well your tut and can't get it to work. I can get a rising sound when a note is held, but when i switch between short notes there, the notes just stay still. it is like the envelope is re triggered every time a note is played, so that due to the long attack you pretty much can't hear anything. would you by any chance have any idea?? thanks!!!

[stephenm28]

@JulCanada

Yeah Im having the same problem, I get the pitch going up when I hold a key down but when I play a pattern of notes, I just stays the same pitch & doesnt rise...what are we doing wrong??

[JulCanada]

@stephenm28 yeah we are having bad luck. I am wondering if it has anything to do with the legato setting. May I ask what version you are using? I think I have 1.1.3.

[stephenm28]

@JulCanada

I think I have the same version. I tried it with slightly longer notes & it seemed to work a bit. I reckon if we just mess around with the settings we'll get it in the end!

[JulCanada]

@stephenm28 maybe there is a bug in this version? the notes he is using in this video are really short. just can't figure it out. aaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh

[beatdownthek1d]

@JulCanada i'm having the exact same problem. please help! this is such an effective sound, i'd love to have it working properly!

[Dendrobts]

I love your tutorials man. but my massive synth doesn't have that "hard clipper" thing. what can i do?

[nzmusic101]

@Dendrobts just crank the 'classic tube' a little more!

[dland95]

You should save these as presets and offer them as a preset pack. I'd buy it!

[gavinjamesaitken1]

best tutorials on youtube

[GorillaBaked3]

Keep it up man, these are quality.

[oOoInStInCtoOo]

Hey can you do some Albino tutorials? i bought it just havent used it much :/

[solls2]

You're the hidden gem of youtube tutorials.

[nzmusic101]

@solls2 haha thanks! spread the word and help me out!

[obliviox]

@solls2 I 2nd this claim! I'm deff gonna be spreading the word! This is the nzmusic school of music! We are the students lol!

[JOLAFFmusic]

Thanx for all your tutorial!!! There is something I don't understand in this tutorial. The envelope 2 "re-initialize" each time a note is played so a sequence like your in Live 8 doesn't make a long pitch bend over all notes ...why does it works for you?? But if a play a long note with my controler, yes it does a pitch bend... (sorry for my english) :)

[Rokoroks]

just a suggestion:

put an annotation so that you can fast forward to preview the sound you're talking about

[nzmusic101]

@Rokoroks good suggestion! thanks man!

[Tekmatic]

Your videos are very helpful. Much like Luckydate's tutorials. Keep it up, it's greatly appreciated!

[nzmusic101]

@Tekmatic haha i hope i can get the amount of subscribers he does!

[Tekmatic]

@nzmusic101 It doesn't hurt that he's been a professional sound engineer behind the scenes of many productions, or that his new track, Dub Disco, is currently in the Beatport electro house top-10! That guy is blowing up right now.

[obliviox]

Awesome! Thanks!

[nzmusic101]

@obliviox No worries