Interesting. I also heard that plants respond electrochemically to perceived threats, such as extracting the organism from the root which causes the organism to feel some sort of fear.
@Padmakshya Yes, but i think people have become all to unrational about this. We have to eat in order to survive. I guess its a cliché but still; you cannot stop a tiger from eating live animals. And the tiger doesnt see food in a moral perspective. Its eat or be eaten. We need meat in order to survive and function properly. The question is rather what we do to the animals, that actually sacrifice their lives in order for us to survive. The animals we kill, dont have to suffer at all
@420wizzard but sadly, our society today eats way more meat then we need. And it has become an industry. As all other industries, there are no concern for human life, or in this case animals life. Its just inefficient for them in a capitalistic race to worry about such things. I have seen and grown up with ecological farming and animal husbandry. The animals are on large fields and free their entire life. And when its time, they dont know or suffer.
Simply put: it is nature. Life, suffering, death, survival, and so on. It is all just a cycle. There is no universal right or wrong, humans have fabricated these notions.
So was Krishnamurti a vegetarian? But if you are a vegetarian, aren't you killing plants, too? Can someone please elaborate on that? I want to know, I want to be serious and change
The argument is that plants do not feel "pain" while harvesting them whereas animals do, but of course we can never be certain if plants really suffer as much as animals.
@Padmakshya I actually remember beeing 7-8 years old. Reading one of my mothers book on plants and vegetables. It said there have been testing, placing electrodes on carrots before pulling them up. They actually got a reading that the carrots were "screaming" when they were pulled from the ground.
@420wizzard
Interesting. I also heard that plants respond electrochemically to perceived threats, such as extracting the organism from the root which causes the organism to feel some sort of fear.
Padmakshya 2 weeks ago
@Padmakshya Yes, but i think people have become all to unrational about this. We have to eat in order to survive. I guess its a cliché but still; you cannot stop a tiger from eating live animals. And the tiger doesnt see food in a moral perspective. Its eat or be eaten. We need meat in order to survive and function properly. The question is rather what we do to the animals, that actually sacrifice their lives in order for us to survive. The animals we kill, dont have to suffer at all
420wizzard 6 days ago
@420wizzard but sadly, our society today eats way more meat then we need. And it has become an industry. As all other industries, there are no concern for human life, or in this case animals life. Its just inefficient for them in a capitalistic race to worry about such things. I have seen and grown up with ecological farming and animal husbandry. The animals are on large fields and free their entire life. And when its time, they dont know or suffer.
420wizzard 6 days ago
@420wizzard
Simply put: it is nature. Life, suffering, death, survival, and so on. It is all just a cycle. There is no universal right or wrong, humans have fabricated these notions.
Padmakshya 5 days ago
So was Krishnamurti a vegetarian? But if you are a vegetarian, aren't you killing plants, too? Can someone please elaborate on that? I want to know, I want to be serious and change
mp4ever31 9 months ago
@mp4ever31
The argument is that plants do not feel "pain" while harvesting them whereas animals do, but of course we can never be certain if plants really suffer as much as animals.
Padmakshya 2 months ago
@Padmakshya I actually remember beeing 7-8 years old. Reading one of my mothers book on plants and vegetables. It said there have been testing, placing electrodes on carrots before pulling them up. They actually got a reading that the carrots were "screaming" when they were pulled from the ground.
420wizzard 2 weeks ago