And speaking of films that have inappropriately-placed cute animal sidekicks, there was also an animated film version of the Titanic disaster called "Titanic: The Legend Goes On" made in Italy that was a total ripoff of the James Cameron movie, except it had cute furry animals that included, I'm really not kidding, a rapping dog. And as the ship is sinking, the sight is so horrible that it actually makes the dalmatians cry. It's just . . . bad. The Nostalgia Critic reviewed it.
On the subject of the cat, I think the reason he kills it is because prior to the poor creature creeping on the catwalk, the manager "Joseph Buquet" (what the heck? anyways.) is talking about how he doesn't care about keeping box 5 open for Erik. SO, he takes his anger out on the closest thing....namely, pussy cat over there.
That's my rationalization, but who know,s the illustrator might have had a grudge against cats.
One thing I have to give this movie credit for is that it's in its details closest to the book. That's why I can't really decide whether I like it or not. I mean, you even have the silly Rat Catcher in it! And yes, even the second silly mask is genuine, since Erik tells Christine that he's made a mask that will make him look just like a regular guy. Not a Ken doll, though.
Also (and sadly so): Erik is INDEED a cat-killer. His lassos are made of cats' bowels.
His lassos are made of a material called catgut, which is most likely derived from the word cattlegut. While the rope-like material was made from animal intestines, it was never made from actual cats, and would be readily available in Paris in the time period of the story.
You can read more if you just google "catgut" and click the Wikipeida link.
That's very nice, but only a translation. It says "boyaux de chat" in the original version, and as far as I know, that's what it means. Guts from a cat. The word "catgut" would be "corde en boyau".
Since he learned the art of making the lasso in India, it's also more likely he would produce the lasso himself, not buy it. I suppose the lasso needs a different quality than a musical gut string. And stray cats are easy enough to slaughter. BTW, I AM a cat lover, so this is not a happy thought.
Besides, if the lasso were made of regular catgut, it wouldn't be so singular and intrigueing to the police, would it? I quote the whole paragraph about the disappearing of the lasso that strangled Buquet::
"Mais, après réflexion, Érik revenait chercher le lacet du Pendjab, qui est très singulièrement fait de boyaux de chat et qui aurait pu exciter la curiosité dun juge dinstruction. Ainsi sexpliquait la disparition de la corde de pendu."
Ah, that's true, thanks for pointing it out. My mum still has my French copy of the book. I only have the library version until she mails it back to me.
I wonder why they chose to translate it to catgut. But then again, they made many changes to the English translation. The entire "la sauterelle! Ca saute joliment bien!" double meaning is lost, along with many delicious descriptive passages. I need to get a Wolf translation and see how it compares.
I love this version. I love his voice. I can excuse the cat murder if it were symbolic for being bad luck or whatever. They didn't want him to kill a human so he killed a feline.
I love how Christine is dressed as Harley Quinn. Lol.
You have GOT to read the Batman "MASQUE" comic. Bruce Wayne is Erik and Raoul in one. It's ridiculous but the artwork is beautiful.
Alright, I just have to say that I friggin' love you guys. I've seen all of your Phantom Reviews and think they are hilarious. Wig! *wink, wink*
If you guys ever run out of Phantom stuff to review, it would be fantastic if you guys picked another subject to review. Like........ Michael Jackson music videos! That would be interesting, huh? Or, maybe something that doesn't get a lot of attention. Thanks again!
luckily michael jackson videos contain too much COOL to be made fun of. He wanted to play the phantom. He could have done an amazing job and every1 would watch it.
Yes, Michael is not a conventional choice, but he has more in common with Erik than Gerard. Tall, gracefully, massively large, expressive bony hands, loathed physical appearance, painfully thin, genius performer, hyper-sensitive to music, humans, and the world in general. Casting him would have been a unqiue choice, but no more bizarre and unexpected than Heath ledger for the Joker in The Dark Knight.
Actually, I just found out that the Wishbone episode of "Pantin' at the Opera" will be on one of the PBS Channels on Comcast Digital TV tommorow on Sunday July 5th in my area of Dale City, VA. Unfortuantely I don't have the capability of recording it for the Internet, does anyone have that ability and has the same service/area?
I liked this commentary it was very entertaining as for the Disney film I just commented in another video that if they do attempt to do one it wouldn't be the same as the old Disney classics since it will just try to be more kid-friendly than b4
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Y ou know, I love your reviews and all, but I just have to comment on something. You go on and on about the poor cat being killed and mentioning that Goldfinger had a cat..... WRONG!!!!!!! Goldfinger never had a cat, BLOFELD was the one with the cat you great steaming nit!!! If you're going to reference something, GET YOUR BLOODY FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!! Every Bond film that featured Blofeld usually had him holding a cat in his arms, Goldfinger never held ANY blood pets in his arms.
But just imagine the animated Disney!Phantom... Oh God, all that comes to mind is the Snow White thing where she's in the forest and getting scared by everything... Just imagine Snow White's hair is brown/blond, and everything is made of concrete.
I don't know if you've ever seen it, but you two should do an informal review on that Wishbone phantom episode. I remember someone showing it to me a while back, but I'm not sure where. It's..... strange. I think it's called something weird like Pantin at the opera or something. Just to put the idea out there, if you can even find it.
That's exactly right - its called "Pantin' at the Opera" - but the problem is that the video was taken down and the poster was suspended from YouTube.
I completely forgot that we did this one!! Geeze, I'm so giggly in this. I think it was, like, five am by the time we got to this one, though, and you're such a funny fellow, so that might explain it. ;}
I don't know, if Disney did Phantom of the Opera, they wouldn't have cutesy animals, even they have enough common sense to not do that to a classic story. I'm gonna try to guess that movie at the end...is it one of those sappy Rankin/Bass holiday specials?
Hunchback got a sassy goat (who was admittedly in the book) AND those awful, awful gargoyles. A Disney PotO would definitely get some kind of "adorable" comic relief in the form of an animal or something ridiculous XD I'd still watch it, though!
And as for the other movie, I have NO idea what it is. I was in a stupor when I finally turned it off. XD
I think it is one of those creepy christian childrens movies. that where released stright to vhs kinda like the bible games. don't ask how i got the connection and no i don't know what it is called.
It was VERY obviously one of those; we just don't know which it was! XD I actually like some of those movies; they can be quite fun if they have good writers working on them, which doesn't happen often, sadly.
tease tease tease and ha ha i was right!!! do i get a you tried but didn't even answer the question prize lol. To true they can be. I remember when dream works released 2 movie the prince of egypt and I think josheph if i am remembering right. they where good. although they wheren't low budget like most are.
Osama bin Turban. Oh, that's priceless.
phangirl1986 1 month ago
Hilarious!
By the way, does anybody else think that Christine and Raoul wearing matching Harley Quinn costumes rather disturbing?
heartseed 8 months ago
6:50 to 6:54 What does Biskuits say? The Phantom makes a what face?
WanderingProphet 9 months ago
@WanderingProphet a smarmy face
PhantomReviews 9 months ago
Because of this, sometimes in church I just randomly go, "Ruff ruff! I choose Jesus!" It makes me laugh every single time.
GrobanitePhan 1 year ago
And speaking of films that have inappropriately-placed cute animal sidekicks, there was also an animated film version of the Titanic disaster called "Titanic: The Legend Goes On" made in Italy that was a total ripoff of the James Cameron movie, except it had cute furry animals that included, I'm really not kidding, a rapping dog. And as the ship is sinking, the sight is so horrible that it actually makes the dalmatians cry. It's just . . . bad. The Nostalgia Critic reviewed it.
TheaterRaven 1 year ago
i can relate with drawing city and ive tried it and it took a month to finish and if i painted it it would have taken longer
wrsatm 1 year ago
Ooh, they have one of Les Miserables? Do I even want to know what they did to it....?
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No, I do. Where can I find it?!
lilrowyravenclaw 1 year ago
Yep, it's called The Easter Promise! It's on YouTube too! Haven't seen it since I was 10 or 12.
Mattbrain 1 year ago
@Mattbrain Wow! A Million points to you, I guess, because there it is, cute puppy and all. Me and Biskuits will have to do a commentry on it.
PhantomReviews 1 year ago
@PhantomReviews Hahaha! Thanks! I watched it in CCD...basically religious ed for Catholics...and it was Easter so we all watched it!
Mattbrain 1 year ago
Holy crap, I'm 98% sure I saw that movie that Biskuits is talking about... the one about Jesus...it's just I don't remember a puppy...at all
Mattbrain 1 year ago
The Domino costumes relate to a famous old opera, I just can't remember which one it is.
TPOTCD 1 year ago
No the knight one (just after the Hollywood one)
gusisgr 1 year ago
On the subject of the cat, I think the reason he kills it is because prior to the poor creature creeping on the catwalk, the manager "Joseph Buquet" (what the heck? anyways.) is talking about how he doesn't care about keeping box 5 open for Erik. SO, he takes his anger out on the closest thing....namely, pussy cat over there.
That's my rationalization, but who know,s the illustrator might have had a grudge against cats.
somewhatsecret 1 year ago
Joseph Bouquet is merely a stage hand, no manager, and doesn't apparently know that prudent silence is wise!
HeathsHarleyQuinn 1 year ago 3
Maybe he kills the cat to show the kids that he's evil? Because kids like animals and they probably don't care when he kills people or something.
PinkCharmander 1 year ago
Ah Biskits.... You r sooooo funny!!!!
MsTammyjo777 2 years ago
what movie is that at 0:36?
gusisgr 2 years ago
thats "Phantom of Hollywood" - you can see all my reviews so far by clicking on my name and going to "playlists"
PhantomReviews 2 years ago
a new thought jus came 2 me bout the cat murder. wat if the phantom didnt murder it wat if he jus scared it so bad it fell
smarterthanmyclass 2 years ago
Why did it scream then? Sorry, but that's wishful thinking.
DrDeadsy 2 years ago
in terror? I dunno i'm trying to rationalize the stupid...which doesn't work well really
smarterthanmyclass 2 years ago
One thing I have to give this movie credit for is that it's in its details closest to the book. That's why I can't really decide whether I like it or not. I mean, you even have the silly Rat Catcher in it! And yes, even the second silly mask is genuine, since Erik tells Christine that he's made a mask that will make him look just like a regular guy. Not a Ken doll, though.
Also (and sadly so): Erik is INDEED a cat-killer. His lassos are made of cats' bowels.
DrDeadsy 2 years ago
His lassos are made of a material called catgut, which is most likely derived from the word cattlegut. While the rope-like material was made from animal intestines, it was never made from actual cats, and would be readily available in Paris in the time period of the story.
You can read more if you just google "catgut" and click the Wikipeida link.
MissLuxa 2 years ago
That's very nice, but only a translation. It says "boyaux de chat" in the original version, and as far as I know, that's what it means. Guts from a cat. The word "catgut" would be "corde en boyau".
Since he learned the art of making the lasso in India, it's also more likely he would produce the lasso himself, not buy it. I suppose the lasso needs a different quality than a musical gut string. And stray cats are easy enough to slaughter. BTW, I AM a cat lover, so this is not a happy thought.
DrDeadsy 2 years ago
Besides, if the lasso were made of regular catgut, it wouldn't be so singular and intrigueing to the police, would it? I quote the whole paragraph about the disappearing of the lasso that strangled Buquet::
"Mais, après réflexion, Érik revenait chercher le lacet du Pendjab, qui est très singulièrement fait de boyaux de chat et qui aurait pu exciter la curiosité dun juge dinstruction. Ainsi sexpliquait la disparition de la corde de pendu."
DrDeadsy 2 years ago
Ah, that's true, thanks for pointing it out. My mum still has my French copy of the book. I only have the library version until she mails it back to me.
I wonder why they chose to translate it to catgut. But then again, they made many changes to the English translation. The entire "la sauterelle! Ca saute joliment bien!" double meaning is lost, along with many delicious descriptive passages. I need to get a Wolf translation and see how it compares.
Nothing beats the original French though.
MissLuxa 2 years ago
What what is it in french if it was not cat gut?
littlesongbird1 2 years ago
@ littlesongbird1: Read my earlier comment. It WAS real cat's bowels. Cat-gut is a different word in French.
DrDeadsy 2 years ago
cat gut is from sheep not real cats.
littlesongbird1 2 years ago
@DrDeadsy not cat bowels, it is called cat gut, but it's made of sheep intestines...go figure
InvaderTak176 1 year ago
The phantom totally does look like he belongs on a neighborhood watch sign, I found that really funny when I watched the movie!
DNAngel2009 2 years ago
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EmilyGreene1984 2 years ago
Wait..Emerald City did a version of "Hunchback"? Id love to see that.
shmoogle14 2 years ago
OMG!!!
I actualy saw that Easter movie too, when I was a kid! I remember the "We choose whatshisname" but that's about it, I don't remember a crying puppy.
QuinnthePrincess 2 years ago
could you please make more?pweeease.
brandoncurtis1 2 years ago
I love this version. I love his voice. I can excuse the cat murder if it were symbolic for being bad luck or whatever. They didn't want him to kill a human so he killed a feline.
I love how Christine is dressed as Harley Quinn. Lol.
You have GOT to read the Batman "MASQUE" comic. Bruce Wayne is Erik and Raoul in one. It's ridiculous but the artwork is beautiful.
stitchgrl777 2 years ago
Its pronounced Harloquinne and actually she's dressed as Columbine.
EmilyGreene1984 2 years ago
I meant "Harley Quinn", the character from Batman, and I'm pretty sure that's what PhantomReviewer meant as well.
stitchgrl777 2 years ago
If you look closely, at 4:36/37 Raoul's eyes seem to change from blue to red.
TheAnteatersRevenge 2 years ago 7
Santa Claus on fire! (Laughs hysterically) It's been said before, but I LOVE YOU TWO!!!!!!!
PipamirSolo 2 years ago 10
Alright, I just have to say that I friggin' love you guys. I've seen all of your Phantom Reviews and think they are hilarious. Wig! *wink, wink*
If you guys ever run out of Phantom stuff to review, it would be fantastic if you guys picked another subject to review. Like........ Michael Jackson music videos! That would be interesting, huh? Or, maybe something that doesn't get a lot of attention. Thanks again!
JunoMacguff2012 2 years ago
For everyone's sanity sake - please no!
EmilyGreene1984 2 years ago
luckily michael jackson videos contain too much COOL to be made fun of. He wanted to play the phantom. He could have done an amazing job and every1 would watch it.
stitchgrl777 2 years ago
Ugh, I wouldn't watch it. I'd rather watch Gerard numerous times over than watch Michael Jackson. He'd make Julian Sands look like Lon Chaney. :S
EmilyGreene1984 2 years ago
Yes, Michael is not a conventional choice, but he has more in common with Erik than Gerard. Tall, gracefully, massively large, expressive bony hands, loathed physical appearance, painfully thin, genius performer, hyper-sensitive to music, humans, and the world in general. Casting him would have been a unqiue choice, but no more bizarre and unexpected than Heath ledger for the Joker in The Dark Knight.
stitchgrl777 2 years ago
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EmilyGreene1984 2 years ago
Actually, I just found out that the Wishbone episode of "Pantin' at the Opera" will be on one of the PBS Channels on Comcast Digital TV tommorow on Sunday July 5th in my area of Dale City, VA. Unfortuantely I don't have the capability of recording it for the Internet, does anyone have that ability and has the same service/area?
EmilyGreene1984 2 years ago
not i but i'd love to see it again. that dog was the best raoul.
stitchgrl777 2 years ago
The dark knight phantom murders a cat .
MBrilhart 2 years ago
oh my god. I died laughing. NEVER STOP WHAT YOU DO!
Phantomguy92 2 years ago 2
I liked this commentary it was very entertaining as for the Disney film I just commented in another video that if they do attempt to do one it wouldn't be the same as the old Disney classics since it will just try to be more kid-friendly than b4
Neko17 2 years ago
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Y ou know, I love your reviews and all, but I just have to comment on something. You go on and on about the poor cat being killed and mentioning that Goldfinger had a cat..... WRONG!!!!!!! Goldfinger never had a cat, BLOFELD was the one with the cat you great steaming nit!!! If you're going to reference something, GET YOUR BLOODY FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!! Every Bond film that featured Blofeld usually had him holding a cat in his arms, Goldfinger never held ANY blood pets in his arms.
bobbyshaddoe3004 2 years ago
Geez, unnecessary rage for the lose.
typhoidsashes 2 years ago 2
The disney channel did have a live action made for tv movie called Phantom of the Megaplex or something like that.
MorbidMixer 2 years ago 2
But just imagine the animated Disney!Phantom... Oh God, all that comes to mind is the Snow White thing where she's in the forest and getting scared by everything... Just imagine Snow White's hair is brown/blond, and everything is made of concrete.
TheCriticAndSinger 2 years ago
I don't know if you've ever seen it, but you two should do an informal review on that Wishbone phantom episode. I remember someone showing it to me a while back, but I'm not sure where. It's..... strange. I think it's called something weird like Pantin at the opera or something. Just to put the idea out there, if you can even find it.
ghostoftoast 2 years ago
omg i remember wishbone they forced us to watch that and reading rainbow in school...
RebelFounderOdogoo 2 years ago
That's exactly right - its called "Pantin' at the Opera" - but the problem is that the video was taken down and the poster was suspended from YouTube.
EmilyGreene1984 2 years ago
lol The neighborhood watch signs. I always thought they were copying The Shadow with those signs.
SilverDrgnbane 2 years ago
If disney did PotO the candelabras would talk like Lumiere lol and the phantom would be either totally villanous or extremely watered down
gizmobizness1 2 years ago
wow! me and the phantomreviewer think alike! thats a little creepy though.... and i couldnt stop laughing at the easter special thing at the end!
DrNoYes9 2 years ago
PR, you're thinking of Blofeld, not Goldfinger. Sorry, but that's really bugging me.
TheFandango19 2 years ago
I completely forgot that we did this one!! Geeze, I'm so giggly in this. I think it was, like, five am by the time we got to this one, though, and you're such a funny fellow, so that might explain it. ;}
Biskuits 2 years ago
I don't know, if Disney did Phantom of the Opera, they wouldn't have cutesy animals, even they have enough common sense to not do that to a classic story. I'm gonna try to guess that movie at the end...is it one of those sappy Rankin/Bass holiday specials?
TheITinFIT 2 years ago
Hunchback got a sassy goat (who was admittedly in the book) AND those awful, awful gargoyles. A Disney PotO would definitely get some kind of "adorable" comic relief in the form of an animal or something ridiculous XD I'd still watch it, though!
And as for the other movie, I have NO idea what it is. I was in a stupor when I finally turned it off. XD
Biskuits 2 years ago
At least on the bright side, DisneyPhantom would have music by Alan Menken.
JoelandtheBots 2 years ago 3
Wait, Rankin and Bass do Christian movies as well as TERRIBLE Lord of the Rings cartoons?
PhantomReviews 2 years ago
Hey!! I love those cartoons XD
Biskuits 2 years ago
At least they were better then the Ralph Bakshi film!
Hasselhoffhater 2 years ago
You guys did a great job! =-)
LightsCameraAaron 2 years ago
A million points if you can name the animated movie Biskuits is talking about at the end.
PhantomReviews 2 years ago
I think it is one of those creepy christian childrens movies. that where released stright to vhs kinda like the bible games. don't ask how i got the connection and no i don't know what it is called.
RebelFounderOdogoo 2 years ago
It was VERY obviously one of those; we just don't know which it was! XD I actually like some of those movies; they can be quite fun if they have good writers working on them, which doesn't happen often, sadly.
Biskuits 2 years ago
tease tease tease and ha ha i was right!!! do i get a you tried but didn't even answer the question prize lol. To true they can be. I remember when dream works released 2 movie the prince of egypt and I think josheph if i am remembering right. they where good. although they wheren't low budget like most are.
RebelFounderOdogoo 2 years ago