its not that we dont want them to fight... its just that... why do you think they dont make bunks coed? so people arent fucking... people rise emotions when they get sexual, happens with gays and straights. but the military does not want this interfearing with the mission... its not becasue they are gay. its because of what arises from them being emotional with someone... wich is why that is INDEED illegal too.
That guy in the video had no intention of joining the military. If he wanted to join he wouldn't have walked into the recruiters office advertising his sexual preference.
I am gay and served 22 years in the US Navy. I would like to thank all of you homophobes for my Navy retirement check I'm having a beer right now that you homophobes bought for me! Cheers to you ignorant homophobes and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it! LOL
if gays want to fight then let them. make sure though that we get these "boys" separate showers. I don't like have to wear a butthole protector when i clean myself.
I bet my paycheck for a year that when Don't ask Don't tell is repealed he won't enlist. This is for media, this is for political posturing. It's sad. On a side note... why the fawk is that station commander in civilian clothes?
The reason gays are so against "Don't ask don't tell" is because if a woman is married to a solider or marine and he dies or is injured they contact her back at home and take care of her. While if the man back at home is married to the solider/marine.. they don't do this. Which is in a way discriminating. It's a very touchy subject and it doesn't effect *That many* people. Sometimes Libs just need to understand the power of "God" is stronger to others than their love.
I dont understand, the policy is ont As Dont Tell, so as long as he doesnt tell then he can enlist. The law isnt there to bar gays from the military, its more so to stay productive. I know alot of gays who I wouldnt know they were gay unless they said something, but if you think about it, the gays that are openly gay and express it every chance they get usually do so in a manner that would be disruptive to productivity. I hope that makes sense. You can be gay or straight, just keep it in check
who da fuck are these people who try to change shit when they've never been in the military...bunch of dumb fucks...and as for the gays...why da fuck do you gotta tell the whole world you're gay!! shit, if you want to serve, serve...just don't go around telling people you're gay...don't ask don't tell is there for the majority, who happen to be straight, who don't wanna feel awkward and uncomfortable
@wasupekar Well, it's not that easy. If you are straight and you have a spouse or significant other, are you just never going to bring that person up? Are you going to take off the wedding ring? Or if people ask you who you think is hot, are you going to awkwardly change the subject so that you don't have to tell the whole world you are straight?
Try it for one week... Don't give any hint about your sexual orientation. That's what you are saying, but forever.
@xCORPSMANx you said, "If a gay person wants to serve, he or she should be allowed to do so." no one said they couldnt and they are now able to do so.
@joeratti Common sense would dictate I meant serve openly. Given the nature of this video. However, I could have been more detailed to save from this confusion. Oh well, no harm no foul.
@beautimousmaximus1 - by your logic, they should also be able to turn down people who are black, Asian, Hispanic, Jewish, left-handed, blonde-haired... can you please explain why you think that's OK?
I don't see how gay people can't serve ;why not it's not like they are going to touch the other men(if they are men) and or other women(if they are women) in their sleep.Or is that they don't want gay people as an image for people to see America as the land of the free and the gay which I hardly find that having any success.
@JpoidMikeru No Patiotism never stopped, being gay has. And likely they will left the ban. You're missing the point. This dudes Gay, the military has had gays specifily target in the military, so they are eleminating the threat within. If you were born with 1 leg or 1 eye your also fucked. Just swallow the truth and face reality.
@xCORPSMANx Gays arn't a threat, but they are being threatened. This is about their safety. How many Gays have been targeted in the Army because of their sexuality? This is about safety.
@jamescgale Women aren't a threat but they are being threatened. This is about their safety. How many women have been targeted in the Army because of their gender? This is about safety.
@xCORPSMANx Gays are not a threat to the military. I am gay and served for 22 years. Most of the people on this board who are posting negative comments never served a day in their lives. As you well know the military is loaded with gay people and most of us do quite well, better than most straight people. I did!
what is the difference "don't ask and don't tell?" approximately 60% of the military population are bisexual or gay (keep it in the closet)....LET THEM JOIN!
@savvy1954 What a laod of ballocks- 60% are queer--typical fag propaganda.
Marxists use queers and feminism to undermine the West, and phoney statistics you have just amde up are standard tools. bit dumb of you to pitch it so high, no one believes you!
I was a British Paratrooper when when homos were not allowed to serve .We had a Sergeant-Major who was an excellent soldier, strict, but fair, humorous and charismatic. We had a company "smoker" one night ( a bonding social night with drinks, smokes and d-i-y cabaret). He was all over a rather nondescript young guy, who wasvery shortly promoted above his abilities, and then again. We later found out he was a poof, and he was poofing the and he was discharged.
. Saw this with other queer cliques -I was attached later to a unit with women in it, the hierarchy was almost exclusively lesbain, they promoted their own, and did their best to "turn" straights.
Many were viciously spiteful to staright girls who rejected them.
@Jigaboo123456 I don't agree with cliques, but the same thing could be said of straight officers. Once rumors start you maybe gay, you'll be passed over for promotion. If it happens more than twice, you might as well end your military career.
@JpoidMikeru I've never seen a clique based on "Straight" as the massive majority of soldiers are straight, it would not serve any purpose.
I am am aware of a certain double-standard in my thoughts--in a draft I would not want my sons drafted whilst gays stay at home, so maybe segregated units are the answer.
@JpoidMikeru@JpoidMikeru I've never seen a clique based on "Straight" as the massive majority of soldiers are straight, it would not serve any purpose.
I am am aware of a certain double-standard in my thoughts--in a draft I would not want my sons drafted whilst gays stay at home, so maybe segregated units are the answer.
This guy obviously did something wrong. He must have let the recruiter know he was gay on purpose just to get an uprising. Had he kept quiet and to himself he would been able to get in but I'm sure he went there dressed gay and talking with a gay accent. The dont ask dont tell says openly gays cant serve. It doesnt say anything about gays who are quiet and secretive about it.
I don't understand.. I'm shipping out in April and I don't care about all this personal talk.. Don't get me wrong but I'm going to a place to be made in to a soldier. If the guy next to me is gay I could care less. We don't join the military based on sexual preference. Look at the big picture. When stuff hits the fan and we're getting shot at, that's what matters to me, not his sexual preference.
i totally agree. If a homosexual can do his job professionally i dont see why he cannot enlist. that said i dont think he/she should be open about it. you dont have to like push it in everyones face.
vanegaroon1 down there is breaking my heart... And sanmacuca is right. The policy IS in effect, its even broken down barney style for you people. DONT ASK...DONT TELL. It is OUR policy, and if you want to join OUR orginization that is DoD, nobody will ask, so nobody will tell? man its a complex thing i know. And as far as having to hide who they are? we all have to hide things about ourselves...NOBODY JOINS THE MILITARY TO STAY THE SAME. you conform to the standard. lol hate mail is comin to me
I agree this is bullshit I dont wanna shower naked in a hurry in basic but have to worry about some fag watching my ass haha. I just went to MEPS and I ship20100505
im glad that you agree but dont be ignorant about it dude. you will see when you join how the lifestyle, attitude and personalities you are surrounded by, change who you are. (brain washing...lol) especially in combat arms. i dont know how it is in the cav scouts.i chose to fight with real men in the infantry lol im just messin dude. allowing gays/ bi sexual/ trans gender's into the militarty would do more harm than good. i came back from my 3rd deployment not to long ago. now its your turn...
He should not have said anything about being gay, right there he just told, so there is where the policy takes over he should have kept it to himself, and it would have been alright, that's a common excuse you hear from people anyways, but the policy was broken by him not the recruiting office
Gays often make excellent killers, Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar being two prime examples. It is odd, however, that a gay person would live a life of being the subject of bias in the US, only to volunteer to to the bidding of the neo-fascist US regime and go overseas and murder disadvantaged and poor people in their own countries.
@SecretIVUIIHear No way. His associations with women, from "Stephanie' in his youth, to Geli Raubal and others are documented. Plus he ordered gays killed.
Having gay people in the military is similar to having women in the military. There will be sexual tension but people know better to get past that. As for the whole rooming and showering thing. Think of it this way...say you go to a gym and take a shower afterwards and you're drying off...who says that the guys you're next to aren't gay? There are gay men out there that don't "act" gay. Just think about that.
maybe but joining the military is. a openly gay guy in the military would harmfully influence his fellow soldiers. thelack of privacy in basic and when deployed is minimal showers, Latrine, and barracks sleeping. I would not be comfortable with a queer in the same shower area as me at the gym much less in the military where it would be a daily occurence. so the next idea is a fag or uhhm sorry gay platoon? ohh then straight white conservative america is grouping or profiling haha move to france!
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military wont let faggot serve our country. we want soldiers, trained and not raped by some flamming douche. i mean when u train are they gonna be distracted cause of the other recruits?
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why is it that Gay people are always so damn happy? i mean SERIOUSLY! They have to be doing something ILLEGAL or MORALLY WRONG in order to be happy right? Fighting a fake war and being lied to should make them angry and butthurt but they're still nice, kind people.
SOMETHING'S GOING ON! FIND THEIR AGENDA! DO IT FOR AMERICA AND GOD!
@engl4nd24 While theyre fucking guys that dont want to me fucked in the butt? How would you feel showering 2 inchs from a naked gay guy? That could cause other recruits to fuck him up.
yea stage a sit in we want that kind of attitude in the military how about you fuck that sgt first class up to get in maybe they m,ight reconsider fucking fairy ass fudge packer. and what happened when he went into the marine recruiting? didnt want to show him get his ass handle cuz thats probably what happened.
There are easier ways to further your agenda (whatever it is) than enlisting in a time of two wars when you have guaranteed that you will be send either to Afghanistan or to Iraq with pretty good chances of being killed or seriously injured.
Im Bisexual and im going into the Military, and the fact that my sexual orientation makes me less qualified to serve my country than Illegal citizens is pretty rediculous. Just because were one of the last Western countries to stop being imature and hating people different than us.
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Immature? no i dont want you in my military for the soul fact because your gay. Your morals and ethics do not match what ares does so infact you are less of a asset to a team and if I saw someone in my corp that was gay i would straight up kill a mother fucker.....easy target easy cover up good to go?
just because someone's morals and ethics dont match yours doesnt mean you have the right to go and kill them...you deserve to be shot just for saying that! & you're immature cause you cant accept someone because they're different from you.. grow the fuck up
It's a simple law. Just obey it. Don't go into the Recruiter and say "DID YOU KNOW THAT I'M A FLAMING HOMO?!?!!?!?!?" I'd kick you out of my house if you said that too. just for the fact that you had to scream it and make a huge scene about it. like this guy in the video.
They will have to appeal this all the way to the supreme court. BUT it wont go that far because they have no grounds for a counter suit proving broken laws by the arresting officers or the host of their sit in. Rosa Parks they AIN'T. Removing a gay man from a bunch of homophobes with guns just makes good since!
He doesn't want to enlist. Not really. He's just an attention whore trying to get his 15 minutes of fame. All he is giving is lip-service in order to try and make a mountain out of a mole-hill. You really wanna serve? Just shut the fuck up and serve then. Stop being such a 'fag' by trying to make everything a god-damn personal fucking crusade. The Marines there dont give a shit about you screwing dudes in the butt, so stop acting like they are "bigoted nazis". F'ind homo.Ugh.
that is amusing, i suppose but do not flatter yourself-also the most fierce warriors in history-the spartans-were partial to a bit of same sex interaction
fuck tha spartans u really think u know history cuz u watch a movie??? u really think there were monsters n shit back then?? man fuck outta here...plus they all ended up dead in tha end...n they whole city...dead gone wiped off earth where they at now??? the same place my socks go when i do wash....
for your ass to know: No there weren't any monsters, yes they did die fighting 1.000.000. Troops, their city collapsed many centuries later when capitalism was induced to them, they are not dead they had children , and one of them would take down 8 navy seals in hand to hand combat EASILY , your ass can't comprehend the hard training they had who often left them dead. The most fierce fighters in HISTORY my ignorant friend
wheres the proof except a book written by a author??? is there any hard evidence of this shit??? like written shit??? no....n the evidence they do have is nothing more than people wit high IQ's taking a guess....thats it...shits fake bro.....so u dont know shit...n u call me ignorant....sounds like u gettin ur "facts" from the history channel....u need to do deeper research b4 u try to preach....done...
no preaching my ghetto schooled friend, all ancient greek and foreign historians refer to them...now the fact that you only saw that poor excuse of a movie and that crappy comic book exagerating everything that's one side , buy a book on them....you'll love me
talk is cheap bro......christian documents n tongue say jesus rose from the dead...does that make it true just cuz they said it was??? no....n i never saw the movie cuz i aint into fictional shit like that...ive seen the same sides as u....n i refuse to believe it.....UR THE ONE PREACHIN TELLIN ME TO PICK UP A BOOK N DO RESEARCH......its a waste of time cuz unless theres footage proof then aint shit really proven....
dumb ass law... i was in the military and there were gay guys all over the military, there probably always were. You don't turn away able bodied volunteers in a time of war. This is a dumb ass law.
Men in the military are some of the most intense homophobes in the US. That combined with their raised testosterone levels, unbalanced mental state, and murder training makes the military a dangerous place for any openly gay recruit.
dude what the fuck dont ask dont tell is cut and dry i mean god damn what gay people want to say i am here i am queer and i am her to enlist i mean do you have to be openly gay every fuckin place the army says we wont ask if you dont tell which translates we dont care if you are just dont say anything about it and dont be tryin to fuck dudes in the shower or in the barracks
Oh and also to bill0756 how do you explain a lot of military officials getting fired for being gay by the Pentagon? A lot of them were translators in Arabic which is needed with Iraq and Afghanistan.
Just as being in the military entails different stipulations, like carry a weapon or following the orders of officers, keeping your sexual orientation private is the same. No one asks if you are gay, so if you don't say it, no one cares. Like if you went to a cop and said, I just kicked your car...you're probably going to be arrested. But if you don't say anything, no one cares! And the kid was not being arrested for trying to enlist, he was arrested for trespassing after he refused to leave.
But even if it is determined that you are gay, without you ever saying anything, like from people back home, or just from rumors and they ask you, and you tell the truth and say yes, you will be discharged, you taking about it or not has nothing to do with it. That is how the majority of gay people in the military are discharged.
I'm confused as to why this is even a problem. Gays ARE in the military, so to say they can't enlist is inaccurate. The reason they won't let you say your gay is because of safety concerns. What do you think would happen if they put an openly gay person in the army, they would be beaten and harrassed every day! So as far as I see it, it's not a concern.
On my eighteenth birthday i went in to enlist for the Australian army and was told to wait in a room and 4 soldiers came in and started beating on me... I bettered them and fled the scene and was hunted by police til I was found at a friends place who was an ex Vietnam vet. He asked me to go silently which I did and he rang and abused higher powers and I was sent an apology and an open invitation which I refused for common sense reasons. Fuck the army, they lost a gem that day!
What's wrong with don't ask, don't tell?..gays have served for decades under an official and unofficial DADT policy, without interference from insincere instigators that is. This is social engineering, an effort to condition people to accept a lifestyle as legitimate, and that Harvard student's very probably insincere effort to be an Army private demonstrates that.
And why shouldn't they be treated as anyone else? Because they are gay? Good grief please come to the 21st century. Accept people and who they are as is. Don't try to play God. And how ridiculous the army is doing this when they need bodies. They can let in Nazi wannabe's and criminals but God forbid if a gay man or lesiban wants to? Oh the horror!! At least the guy at the office wasn't a jerk so that was good for them. Those arrested probably got a misdemeanor.
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Ok ok, Let the guy who likes large cylindrical objects shoved up his rectum enlist. I hope no one catches him trying to put a Mortar tube up his ass. Don't ask Don't tell.
He has every right to enlist if that is what he actually wanted but the protest was in the wrong place. In this case the arrest was the right thing to do. You can't go around stopping people doing their jobs and expect everyone to be happy about that. Don't get me wrong, I think the policy needs to change but I don't think protesting in an enlistment office is the way to get your point across.
Why would you enlist? Our gov't is kicking military people that served during war out because they were affected by the war. They are cutting our benefits. It is sickening that our liberties are being dwindled by this same terror instilling administration. They care only about getting richer folks. They tell you that you are expendable. The war on liberties is here. If you want to be a soldier be a Freedom Fighter. Our Constitution is just a piece of paper to the Bush administration. Impeach.
The recruiter was actually very polite to them. Doesn't seem like he supports DADT.
My daughter is in the military, and she just keeps her mouth shut. She is too busy for a relationship anyway, but she wants to stay in and retire from the military. Hopefully this can be repealed so she can have a relationship without worrying about losing her career and retirement, etc.
She IS celibate now, though, so technically she is not violating DADT. But I would hate for her to have to abandon her life
Is this America? Liberty and justice for ALL? or some? The reason it's don't ask don't tell is that the MAJORITY of people in the military are gay - they need to leave their family and hometown because they are different "inside" and don't know how to deal with it.... it's one of the oldest stories in the book...
A shame that in this country it takes people doing things like this to drawn attention to inane practices like the failed DADT policy. Will this country ever grow up?
this issue is stupid, gay ppl can join just not say there gay haha so enlist an dont take or boyfriend or wait a couple of months
SWAGGxHARDNiPPLEZ 8 months ago
Spartans were gay
trankuser9 9 months ago
They cant join now with a criminal record lol.
studpuppy69 10 months ago 2
Hey buddy the army called your bluff , go sign up you can openly join now.
coreysm1th 11 months ago 2
its not that we dont want them to fight... its just that... why do you think they dont make bunks coed? so people arent fucking... people rise emotions when they get sexual, happens with gays and straights. but the military does not want this interfearing with the mission... its not becasue they are gay. its because of what arises from them being emotional with someone... wich is why that is INDEED illegal too.
MrTrickydick666 11 months ago
lmao so now yuu have a criminal record an fags can openly join lmao pointless
AlwayzH1 11 months ago
FAG! no one wants a fag in the military, tryin to look at other guys.
xxxEmmureOwnxxx 1 year ago
That guy in the video had no intention of joining the military. If he wanted to join he wouldn't have walked into the recruiters office advertising his sexual preference.
BaNgInHeAdS 1 year ago 2
OK, I got that it has something tho do with people being gay and wanting to go in the army, but can't..why not??
mereje 1 year ago
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iTzGiNz 1 year ago
2 years later.....nothing has changed lol
alfonzo2020 1 year ago
I am gay and served 22 years in the US Navy. I would like to thank all of you homophobes for my Navy retirement check I'm having a beer right now that you homophobes bought for me! Cheers to you ignorant homophobes and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it! LOL
RImusclebear 1 year ago
Guess what you fucking bone smuggling fairies, you got your wish. I'll be damn if i serve with you sweet sugar tank ass bitches.
SteveMercado17 1 year ago
@SteveMercado17 I adgree homie
ZEBCLEM11 1 year ago
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@SteveMercado17 Hell, you probably never served a day in your life!
RImusclebear 1 year ago
if gays want to fight then let them. make sure though that we get these "boys" separate showers. I don't like have to wear a butthole protector when i clean myself.
EliteDefenseInc 1 year ago
I bet my paycheck for a year that when Don't ask Don't tell is repealed he won't enlist. This is for media, this is for political posturing. It's sad. On a side note... why the fawk is that station commander in civilian clothes?
motleyhar 1 year ago
@motleyhar all the recruiters at my local station are always in their service uniform(tan shirt navy pants)
spaghetticat3 1 year ago
The reason gays are so against "Don't ask don't tell" is because if a woman is married to a solider or marine and he dies or is injured they contact her back at home and take care of her. While if the man back at home is married to the solider/marine.. they don't do this. Which is in a way discriminating. It's a very touchy subject and it doesn't effect *That many* people. Sometimes Libs just need to understand the power of "God" is stronger to others than their love.
TumisHumis 1 year ago
I dont understand, the policy is ont As Dont Tell, so as long as he doesnt tell then he can enlist. The law isnt there to bar gays from the military, its more so to stay productive. I know alot of gays who I wouldnt know they were gay unless they said something, but if you think about it, the gays that are openly gay and express it every chance they get usually do so in a manner that would be disruptive to productivity. I hope that makes sense. You can be gay or straight, just keep it in check
mgkusmc 1 year ago
FAG FAG GAY GAY FAG FAG FAG ALMOST AS WORSE AS ILLEGAL MEXICANS JOINING
unitedstateskingdom 1 year ago
who da fuck are these people who try to change shit when they've never been in the military...bunch of dumb fucks...and as for the gays...why da fuck do you gotta tell the whole world you're gay!! shit, if you want to serve, serve...just don't go around telling people you're gay...don't ask don't tell is there for the majority, who happen to be straight, who don't wanna feel awkward and uncomfortable
wasupekar 1 year ago
@wasupekar Well, it's not that easy. If you are straight and you have a spouse or significant other, are you just never going to bring that person up? Are you going to take off the wedding ring? Or if people ask you who you think is hot, are you going to awkwardly change the subject so that you don't have to tell the whole world you are straight?
Try it for one week... Don't give any hint about your sexual orientation. That's what you are saying, but forever.
biry0501 1 year ago
Easy, if you want to serve "right now", don't tell. The law is changing soon\.
Infadel0369 1 year ago
haha that gay most got fucked in jail.
dunknG 1 year ago
@xCORPSMANx who the fuck said they cant serve genius
joeratti 1 year ago
@joeratti I said they COULD, genius.
xCORPSMANx 1 year ago
@xCORPSMANx you said, "If a gay person wants to serve, he or she should be allowed to do so." no one said they couldnt and they are now able to do so.
joeratti 1 year ago
@joeratti Common sense would dictate I meant serve openly. Given the nature of this video. However, I could have been more detailed to save from this confusion. Oh well, no harm no foul.
xCORPSMANx 1 year ago
@beautimousmaximus1 - by your logic, they should also be able to turn down people who are black, Asian, Hispanic, Jewish, left-handed, blonde-haired... can you please explain why you think that's OK?
maineboy1979 1 year ago
I don't see how gay people can't serve ;why not it's not like they are going to touch the other men(if they are men) and or other women(if they are women) in their sleep.Or is that they don't want gay people as an image for people to see America as the land of the free and the gay which I hardly find that having any success.
DroPShoTShArPShOoTeR 1 year ago
Go inside a recruiters office with protest signs and you deserve to get your lights knocked out.
jamescgale 1 year ago
@jamescgale agreed.
bigbigblue111 1 year ago
You guys are so retarded.
skorpionking66 1 year ago
its weak people like these that bring america down
drakebob17 1 year ago
@drakebob17 I wasn't aware patriotism had stopped being a motivating factor in enlisting.
JpoidMikeru 1 year ago
@JpoidMikeru No Patiotism never stopped, being gay has. And likely they will left the ban. You're missing the point. This dudes Gay, the military has had gays specifily target in the military, so they are eleminating the threat within. If you were born with 1 leg or 1 eye your also fucked. Just swallow the truth and face reality.
jamescgale 1 year ago
@jamescgale - How exactly are gays a threat to the military?
xCORPSMANx 1 year ago
@xCORPSMANx Gays arn't a threat, but they are being threatened. This is about their safety. How many Gays have been targeted in the Army because of their sexuality? This is about safety.
jamescgale 1 year ago
@jamescgale Women aren't a threat but they are being threatened. This is about their safety. How many women have been targeted in the Army because of their gender? This is about safety.
RImusclebear 1 year ago
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@xCORPSMANx Gays are not a threat to the military. I am gay and served for 22 years. Most of the people on this board who are posting negative comments never served a day in their lives. As you well know the military is loaded with gay people and most of us do quite well, better than most straight people. I did!
RImusclebear 1 year ago
what is the difference "don't ask and don't tell?" approximately 60% of the military population are bisexual or gay (keep it in the closet)....LET THEM JOIN!
savvy1954 1 year ago
@savvy1954 What a laod of ballocks- 60% are queer--typical fag propaganda.
Marxists use queers and feminism to undermine the West, and phoney statistics you have just amde up are standard tools. bit dumb of you to pitch it so high, no one believes you!
Jigaboo123456 1 year ago
I was a British Paratrooper when when homos were not allowed to serve .We had a Sergeant-Major who was an excellent soldier, strict, but fair, humorous and charismatic. We had a company "smoker" one night ( a bonding social night with drinks, smokes and d-i-y cabaret). He was all over a rather nondescript young guy, who wasvery shortly promoted above his abilities, and then again. We later found out he was a poof, and he was poofing the and he was discharged.
Jigaboo123456 1 year ago
. Saw this with other queer cliques -I was attached later to a unit with women in it, the hierarchy was almost exclusively lesbain, they promoted their own, and did their best to "turn" straights.
Many were viciously spiteful to staright girls who rejected them.
Perhaps the answer is segregated units?
Jigaboo123456 1 year ago
@Jigaboo123456 I don't agree with cliques, but the same thing could be said of straight officers. Once rumors start you maybe gay, you'll be passed over for promotion. If it happens more than twice, you might as well end your military career.
JpoidMikeru 1 year ago
@JpoidMikeru I've never seen a clique based on "Straight" as the massive majority of soldiers are straight, it would not serve any purpose.
I am am aware of a certain double-standard in my thoughts--in a draft I would not want my sons drafted whilst gays stay at home, so maybe segregated units are the answer.
Jigaboo123456 1 year ago
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@JpoidMikeru @JpoidMikeru I've never seen a clique based on "Straight" as the massive majority of soldiers are straight, it would not serve any purpose.
I am am aware of a certain double-standard in my thoughts--in a draft I would not want my sons drafted whilst gays stay at home, so maybe segregated units are the answer.
Jigaboo123456 1 year ago
SORRY SON, YOU'RE NOT MORAL ENOUGH TO MURDER WOMEN AND CHILDREN! Halliburton don't want no gay boys involved in their profit taking adventures!
kingofthebrittains 1 year ago
"I dont wan't any fags around when im killin little brown children" Bill hicks
nolderine 1 year ago
@nolderine Or when I'm raping civilian women and POWS.
innerspace55 1 year ago
This guy is an idiot... Why not e black dude pullin the race card... fuckin faggott
AXEL2131 1 year ago
This guy obviously did something wrong. He must have let the recruiter know he was gay on purpose just to get an uprising. Had he kept quiet and to himself he would been able to get in but I'm sure he went there dressed gay and talking with a gay accent. The dont ask dont tell says openly gays cant serve. It doesnt say anything about gays who are quiet and secretive about it.
MrPsychoreaper666 1 year ago
well, there goes morale.
rickster348 1 year ago
I don't understand.. I'm shipping out in April and I don't care about all this personal talk.. Don't get me wrong but I'm going to a place to be made in to a soldier. If the guy next to me is gay I could care less. We don't join the military based on sexual preference. Look at the big picture. When stuff hits the fan and we're getting shot at, that's what matters to me, not his sexual preference.
spinfex 1 year ago 9
i totally agree. If a homosexual can do his job professionally i dont see why he cannot enlist. that said i dont think he/she should be open about it. you dont have to like push it in everyones face.
pgamings 1 year ago 3
@spinfex Oh ye? Well what if it turns into one of those broke back mountain moments.
IamSixxx 1 year ago
maine!!!
dominicroy36 1 year ago
vanegaroon1 down there is breaking my heart... And sanmacuca is right. The policy IS in effect, its even broken down barney style for you people. DONT ASK...DONT TELL. It is OUR policy, and if you want to join OUR orginization that is DoD, nobody will ask, so nobody will tell? man its a complex thing i know. And as far as having to hide who they are? we all have to hide things about ourselves...NOBODY JOINS THE MILITARY TO STAY THE SAME. you conform to the standard. lol hate mail is comin to me
paratroop101 2 years ago 2
I agree this is bullshit I dont wanna shower naked in a hurry in basic but have to worry about some fag watching my ass haha. I just went to MEPS and I ship20100505
hooahh goin 19delta cav scout
lukesimianer 2 years ago
im glad that you agree but dont be ignorant about it dude. you will see when you join how the lifestyle, attitude and personalities you are surrounded by, change who you are. (brain washing...lol) especially in combat arms. i dont know how it is in the cav scouts.i chose to fight with real men in the infantry lol im just messin dude. allowing gays/ bi sexual/ trans gender's into the militarty would do more harm than good. i came back from my 3rd deployment not to long ago. now its your turn...
paratroop101 1 year ago
haha thanks man, and Im not im just saying that if everyone in the room likes pussy its a whole lot less awkward bahahahahaha
lukesimianer 1 year ago
He should not have said anything about being gay, right there he just told, so there is where the policy takes over he should have kept it to himself, and it would have been alright, that's a common excuse you hear from people anyways, but the policy was broken by him not the recruiting office
sanmacuca 2 years ago
Duh - that's EXACTLY the point. They are protesting having to HIDE who they are.
jzbelle03 2 years ago
Gays often make excellent killers, Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar being two prime examples. It is odd, however, that a gay person would live a life of being the subject of bias in the US, only to volunteer to to the bidding of the neo-fascist US regime and go overseas and murder disadvantaged and poor people in their own countries.
vinegaroon1 2 years ago
@vinegaroon1 Hittler might have been gay too.
SecretIVUIIHear 2 years ago
@SecretIVUIIHear No way. His associations with women, from "Stephanie' in his youth, to Geli Raubal and others are documented. Plus he ordered gays killed.
vinegaroon1 2 years ago
Conceding
SecretIVUIIHear 2 years ago
Having gay people in the military is similar to having women in the military. There will be sexual tension but people know better to get past that. As for the whole rooming and showering thing. Think of it this way...say you go to a gym and take a shower afterwards and you're drying off...who says that the guys you're next to aren't gay? There are gay men out there that don't "act" gay. Just think about that.
KayceKace 2 years ago
i prefer it to be no gay people in army..you imagine ur taking a bath and they just staring at you..so i agree with this shit
jeffrey011111111 2 years ago 2
Why do men automatically think that gay men want to look at them? I bet you glance at other men in the showers the equal amount of a gay man lol
KayceKace 2 years ago 2
Ironic! It wasn't all that long ago they wouldn't have let the black dude in either.
vinegaroon1 2 years ago
Being black isn't a choice.
aproductions 2 years ago
neither is being gay
vinegaroon1 2 years ago
maybe but joining the military is. a openly gay guy in the military would harmfully influence his fellow soldiers. thelack of privacy in basic and when deployed is minimal showers, Latrine, and barracks sleeping. I would not be comfortable with a queer in the same shower area as me at the gym much less in the military where it would be a daily occurence. so the next idea is a fag or uhhm sorry gay platoon? ohh then straight white conservative america is grouping or profiling haha move to france!
lukesimianer 2 years ago
the united states is so fucked up!! i am NOT proud to be an american, that's for damn sure!
luvzstudz 2 years ago 4
@luvzstudz then please move!
RImusclebear 1 year ago
huly shit 12.000 ppl discharged becasue they r guay, what has our country come to?
lvrpatriot01 2 years ago
Boy would our enemies run or what - on second thought better not gay guy looks at ass and get shot by non-gay enemy.
cosmiccod 2 years ago
Yeah they need to create experimental gay battalion in th e army
coivictor 2 years ago
It would be sort of be like being the only dude in a battalion of hot bi-sexual chicks who were really horny all the time.
Also group showers.
Actually i have decided that the fact that a gays only battalion doesn't exist is an extreme crime towards gay people.
BenU314159 2 years ago
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military wont let faggot serve our country. we want soldiers, trained and not raped by some flamming douche. i mean when u train are they gonna be distracted cause of the other recruits?
googlesmerf 2 years ago
wow
googlesmerf could you be a bigger moron?
19caribou61 2 years ago 3
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why is it that Gay people are always so damn happy? i mean SERIOUSLY! They have to be doing something ILLEGAL or MORALLY WRONG in order to be happy right? Fighting a fake war and being lied to should make them angry and butthurt but they're still nice, kind people.
SOMETHING'S GOING ON! FIND THEIR AGENDA! DO IT FOR AMERICA AND GOD!
darthnegate 2 years ago
If they want to fight for their damn country, then who the hell are we to tell them that they cant.
engl4nd24 2 years ago 19
@engl4nd24 You must realize what the effects of gays in the military will be. It's not a perfect world unfortunatly
HondaEvo6 1 year ago
@engl4nd24 cuz there FAGGOTS
SteveMercado17 1 year ago
@engl4nd24 While theyre fucking guys that dont want to me fucked in the butt? How would you feel showering 2 inchs from a naked gay guy? That could cause other recruits to fuck him up.
IamSixxx 1 year ago
I don't want a gay person in my barracks where I sleep
Festman1 1 year ago 4
@engl4nd24 Have you ever gone through Marine Corps Boot Camp? I have there was a reason they said, "Don't ask, Don't Tell".
cvm8281 7 months ago
yea stage a sit in we want that kind of attitude in the military how about you fuck that sgt first class up to get in maybe they m,ight reconsider fucking fairy ass fudge packer. and what happened when he went into the marine recruiting? didnt want to show him get his ass handle cuz thats probably what happened.
smokeymcpete 2 years ago
we dont want you here. go to san fransisco and have fun with your rainbows and bathhouses. you dont belong here
117harper 2 years ago
shame on you Punk!... teach that to your son or future son and he will cry saying:- Wut da hell are ja talkin bout!?!??!
Kiarathiago 2 years ago
and what is their agenda?
There are easier ways to further your agenda (whatever it is) than enlisting in a time of two wars when you have guaranteed that you will be send either to Afghanistan or to Iraq with pretty good chances of being killed or seriously injured.
pwl1980 2 years ago
Im Bisexual and im going into the Military, and the fact that my sexual orientation makes me less qualified to serve my country than Illegal citizens is pretty rediculous. Just because were one of the last Western countries to stop being imature and hating people different than us.
Projectdie 2 years ago 2
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Immature? no i dont want you in my military for the soul fact because your gay. Your morals and ethics do not match what ares does so infact you are less of a asset to a team and if I saw someone in my corp that was gay i would straight up kill a mother fucker.....easy target easy cover up good to go?
smokeymcpete 2 years ago
just because someone's morals and ethics dont match yours doesnt mean you have the right to go and kill them...you deserve to be shot just for saying that! & you're immature cause you cant accept someone because they're different from you.. grow the fuck up
luvzstudz 2 years ago
We dont need who?........
Projectdie 2 years ago
I would not join the Army, I can't join the Army if I wanted to.
chadpopstar 2 years ago
It's a simple law. Just obey it. Don't go into the Recruiter and say "DID YOU KNOW THAT I'M A FLAMING HOMO?!?!!?!?!?" I'd kick you out of my house if you said that too. just for the fact that you had to scream it and make a huge scene about it. like this guy in the video.
hihiman 2 years ago
LMFAO i luaghed so hard at imagining someone actually doing that XD
Bl00dShinobi 2 years ago
They will have to appeal this all the way to the supreme court. BUT it wont go that far because they have no grounds for a counter suit proving broken laws by the arresting officers or the host of their sit in. Rosa Parks they AIN'T. Removing a gay man from a bunch of homophobes with guns just makes good since!
tmomof6 3 years ago
He doesn't want to enlist. Not really. He's just an attention whore trying to get his 15 minutes of fame. All he is giving is lip-service in order to try and make a mountain out of a mole-hill. You really wanna serve? Just shut the fuck up and serve then. Stop being such a 'fag' by trying to make everything a god-damn personal fucking crusade. The Marines there dont give a shit about you screwing dudes in the butt, so stop acting like they are "bigoted nazis". F'ind homo.Ugh.
mattyxvii 3 years ago
I think its a good law..don't bring it up..just serve..and do your job..
Shadofx 3 years ago
why do they have to announce that they are gay? i don't announce that i pee on people
djrfr420 3 years ago
look imma put it like this....do u want someone in ur platoon watchin ur back, or ur ass???
slimfan07 3 years ago
that is amusing, i suppose but do not flatter yourself-also the most fierce warriors in history-the spartans-were partial to a bit of same sex interaction
tumadoireacht 3 years ago
fuck tha spartans u really think u know history cuz u watch a movie??? u really think there were monsters n shit back then?? man fuck outta here...plus they all ended up dead in tha end...n they whole city...dead gone wiped off earth where they at now??? the same place my socks go when i do wash....
slimfan07 3 years ago
for your ass to know: No there weren't any monsters, yes they did die fighting 1.000.000. Troops, their city collapsed many centuries later when capitalism was induced to them, they are not dead they had children , and one of them would take down 8 navy seals in hand to hand combat EASILY , your ass can't comprehend the hard training they had who often left them dead. The most fierce fighters in HISTORY my ignorant friend
ARXHMalakas 2 years ago
wheres the proof except a book written by a author??? is there any hard evidence of this shit??? like written shit??? no....n the evidence they do have is nothing more than people wit high IQ's taking a guess....thats it...shits fake bro.....so u dont know shit...n u call me ignorant....sounds like u gettin ur "facts" from the history channel....u need to do deeper research b4 u try to preach....done...
slimfan07 2 years ago
no preaching my ghetto schooled friend, all ancient greek and foreign historians refer to them...now the fact that you only saw that poor excuse of a movie and that crappy comic book exagerating everything that's one side , buy a book on them....you'll love me
ARXHMalakas 2 years ago
talk is cheap bro......christian documents n tongue say jesus rose from the dead...does that make it true just cuz they said it was??? no....n i never saw the movie cuz i aint into fictional shit like that...ive seen the same sides as u....n i refuse to believe it.....UR THE ONE PREACHIN TELLIN ME TO PICK UP A BOOK N DO RESEARCH......its a waste of time cuz unless theres footage proof then aint shit really proven....
slimfan07 2 years ago
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gay couples cant enlist because theyll rape each other during shower time during the whole BCT and our army would be fucked up
proven point just look at jails for instance
farewellkiss9559 3 years ago
dumb ass law... i was in the military and there were gay guys all over the military, there probably always were. You don't turn away able bodied volunteers in a time of war. This is a dumb ass law.
press1500 3 years ago 3
Men in the military are some of the most intense homophobes in the US. That combined with their raised testosterone levels, unbalanced mental state, and murder training makes the military a dangerous place for any openly gay recruit.
EntropyGuardian 3 years ago 2
dude what the fuck dont ask dont tell is cut and dry i mean god damn what gay people want to say i am here i am queer and i am her to enlist i mean do you have to be openly gay every fuckin place the army says we wont ask if you dont tell which translates we dont care if you are just dont say anything about it and dont be tryin to fuck dudes in the shower or in the barracks
airborne2702 3 years ago
You are saying you should hide who you are then?
I don't introduce myself as gay, never have, but after a day or two it is evident that I am. What do you do in that situation?
What do you do when your partner comes to your bootcamp graduation? Pretend like you don't know them?
It has no bearing on anyone's abilities. If anything the gay demographic is better educated and in better shape than straight people. We'd be ideal.
jophus82 3 years ago
Oh and also to bill0756 how do you explain a lot of military officials getting fired for being gay by the Pentagon? A lot of them were translators in Arabic which is needed with Iraq and Afghanistan.
LittlePinky82 3 years ago 2
let the fight i hope they all get shot im pro gay enlistation and gay couples let them both enlist operation humn shield
sr8hate 3 years ago
Just as being in the military entails different stipulations, like carry a weapon or following the orders of officers, keeping your sexual orientation private is the same. No one asks if you are gay, so if you don't say it, no one cares. Like if you went to a cop and said, I just kicked your car...you're probably going to be arrested. But if you don't say anything, no one cares! And the kid was not being arrested for trying to enlist, he was arrested for trespassing after he refused to leave.
Timmy2384 3 years ago
But even if it is determined that you are gay, without you ever saying anything, like from people back home, or just from rumors and they ask you, and you tell the truth and say yes, you will be discharged, you taking about it or not has nothing to do with it. That is how the majority of gay people in the military are discharged.
skip8619 3 years ago
but they care after bootcamp when your partner comes to see you. are you suposed to pretend you dont know who they are?
or when you try to sign them up for military benefits. when then move in with you on base like straight couples.
its quite different from the simplistic things you are saying.
jophus82 3 years ago 2
I'm confused as to why this is even a problem. Gays ARE in the military, so to say they can't enlist is inaccurate. The reason they won't let you say your gay is because of safety concerns. What do you think would happen if they put an openly gay person in the army, they would be beaten and harrassed every day! So as far as I see it, it's not a concern.
Timmy2384 3 years ago
That is what you join the armed forces for. To get your ass beat.
Everyone has the same right to stand up for what they believe in. Some gays are in the military and have to hide it. Some are in and everyone knows.
There is no safety concern. I am gay and know about 15 people in the service who don't keep it a secret and don't have a problem at all.
The law, like the marraige law is unconstitutional and makes a class unequal to another.
jophus82 3 years ago
Hahahaha Army Strong.....hahaha
BigRadio1957 3 years ago
On my eighteenth birthday i went in to enlist for the Australian army and was told to wait in a room and 4 soldiers came in and started beating on me... I bettered them and fled the scene and was hunted by police til I was found at a friends place who was an ex Vietnam vet. He asked me to go silently which I did and he rang and abused higher powers and I was sent an apology and an open invitation which I refused for common sense reasons. Fuck the army, they lost a gem that day!
mysty0 3 years ago
well if there is a draft then i will pretend to be gay.hahaha
MrRed84ut 3 years ago
What's wrong with don't ask, don't tell?..gays have served for decades under an official and unofficial DADT policy, without interference from insincere instigators that is. This is social engineering, an effort to condition people to accept a lifestyle as legitimate, and that Harvard student's very probably insincere effort to be an Army private demonstrates that.
bill0756 3 years ago
And why shouldn't they be treated as anyone else? Because they are gay? Good grief please come to the 21st century. Accept people and who they are as is. Don't try to play God. And how ridiculous the army is doing this when they need bodies. They can let in Nazi wannabe's and criminals but God forbid if a gay man or lesiban wants to? Oh the horror!! At least the guy at the office wasn't a jerk so that was good for them. Those arrested probably got a misdemeanor.
LittlePinky82 3 years ago
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Don't ask, don't tell. Shut up about it! Follow the rules, or leave the country!
I think all of society should be just the same, stop throwing gaydom in our faces and teaching it to our first graders!
Verlch 3 years ago
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i dont want my battle buddy looking at my dick
armypike1 3 years ago
Your battle buddy is not only going to look at your dick. He will jack off to it.
Criticallyrecognized 3 years ago
Please... I doubt he'd be able to see your dick without a magnifying glass.
maineboy1979 3 years ago 2
It is for his/their own safety not to inlist if he is a known homosexual. Soldiers will inevitably end up hurting him/them.
jaimesandoval1988 3 years ago
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Ok ok, Let the guy who likes large cylindrical objects shoved up his rectum enlist. I hope no one catches him trying to put a Mortar tube up his ass. Don't ask Don't tell.
Haas1973 3 years ago
put him on the front line. brave american i salute you.
edensfolly23 3 years ago 5
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Let the Butt Ninja enlist and get a Mortar round up the gazoo. He might enjoy it.Man, I hate Fags who push their gayness on others.
Haas1973 3 years ago
Butt Ninja? What are you, 12 years old? Grow the fuck up.
maineboy1979 3 years ago 5
At least the recruiter was polite, and seemed genuinely sympathetic.
maineboy1979 3 years ago 5
He has every right to enlist if that is what he actually wanted but the protest was in the wrong place. In this case the arrest was the right thing to do. You can't go around stopping people doing their jobs and expect everyone to be happy about that. Don't get me wrong, I think the policy needs to change but I don't think protesting in an enlistment office is the way to get your point across.
walterjnr 3 years ago 2
Why would you enlist? Our gov't is kicking military people that served during war out because they were affected by the war. They are cutting our benefits. It is sickening that our liberties are being dwindled by this same terror instilling administration. They care only about getting richer folks. They tell you that you are expendable. The war on liberties is here. If you want to be a soldier be a Freedom Fighter. Our Constitution is just a piece of paper to the Bush administration. Impeach.
ratwell71 3 years ago 6
The recruiter was actually very polite to them. Doesn't seem like he supports DADT.
My daughter is in the military, and she just keeps her mouth shut. She is too busy for a relationship anyway, but she wants to stay in and retire from the military. Hopefully this can be repealed so she can have a relationship without worrying about losing her career and retirement, etc.
She IS celibate now, though, so technically she is not violating DADT. But I would hate for her to have to abandon her life
shalomsteph 3 years ago 4
let the idiot enlist!
Olphus 3 years ago
Hypocrisy is alive and well. Only a few more months of President Lameduck left.
mcresearch 3 years ago 4
don't ask don't tell is ILLEGAL!
it needs to end NOW!!!
meganjo63 3 years ago 7
It is law and your buddy Clinton signed it!!
cliffc276 3 years ago
THANK YOU
beelzebub1234 3 years ago
How do you know that Bill Clinton is her "buddy"?
And even if he is, that doesn't mean she has to agree with everything he does.
gabjoh 3 years ago
Is this America? Liberty and justice for ALL? or some? The reason it's don't ask don't tell is that the MAJORITY of people in the military are gay - they need to leave their family and hometown because they are different "inside" and don't know how to deal with it.... it's one of the oldest stories in the book...
PaulLeary 3 years ago 3
A shame that in this country it takes people doing things like this to drawn attention to inane practices like the failed DADT policy. Will this country ever grow up?
integral 3 years ago 4
I don't understand why they won't take gay men when women and men both serve.
From what I understand enlistments are way, way down.
greatbroad 3 years ago 3
Why in the HELL would that kid want to enlist anyway?
FattKidd 3 years ago 11
He doesn't, and now with his arrest record we'll see if has any more oppertunities. He's just trying to gain support.
Timmy2384 3 years ago
That sucks.
BarronNevermore 3 years ago 2