1 Jehovah's Witness Speaks to Shunned Preacher

[roynorw]

@SuperRomanticheart they hearts have been harden to believe the lie that is false religion y try but true fact we are not perfect like OUR King Lord & Savior was

[MadGoat]

1 fool among tens of thousands of idiots, it's all hogwash either way you look at it.

[roynorw]

what rule did she break

[jerrybenson]

@roynorw

obedience to the Watchtower.

[roynorw]

@jerrybenson false never heard of it obedience only to Jehovah

[jerrybenson]

Hi Roy,

Please think about this. If obedience to the Watchtower is not essesential to have favor with God, Why do we need the organization? Apparently you have not been a JW for long or you would know this fundamental truth as a JW. Here's one of many references for you proving obedience to the organization is essential (and of course a false doctrine of witnesses).

"We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval." Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.24

[roynorw]

@jerrybenson been a jw over 20 yrs u go to chuch and follow one man give me a break

[teflonfanatic]

@jerrybenson: Looked up the reference in the CD that isn't a quote from the article at all. Is crosscheck and ewatchman the only apostates or opposers of the watchtower?

[teflonfanatic]

@teflonfanatic: Only honest opposers or apostates**

[jerrybenson]

Hi teflon,

Please be specific. What exactly is the quote that isn't accurate?

[sluggfish]

@roynorw They are not allowed to talk to others of different faith "What about having close association with those who may be morally clean but who lack faith in the true God? The Scriptures tell us: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) We come to discern that bad associations are not limited to permissive or morally debased people. Hence, we are wise to cultivate close friendships only with those who love Jehovah." - Watchtower 2006 March 15 Pg 23 Par.9

[roynorw]

@sluggfish talking and association 2 totally different things

[sluggfish]

@roynorw i don't care it doesn't concern me i'm not chained to an occult as you are. Do they no that you converse here on YT & with apostates like me? Mate you are looking at disfellowship, I dare you & all JW's here on YT to tell the congregation that you converse with apostates arguing your JW doctrines,haveyou got the guts to face the music,your not that anonymous,like that woman on this clip are you.It just shows the hypocrisy that you are or even a mocking of your own faith, read the rules

[roynorw]

@sluggfish moron #1 u r not an apostate #2 youtube is not advisable not banned #3 there is no rule book but the Bible #4 get the facts straight

[sluggfish]

@roynorw moron, thankyou facist, you are then a hypocrite,YT was created by JW's for JW's & of course non believers of Jehovah who are non apostates, thankyou for your clarification,Proceed in arguing your dogma

[roynorw]

@sluggfish like i said moron you make no sense at all dont worry will no comment any futher

[sluggfish]

@roynorw Hypocrite JW's ,WTF are you doing here on this site,the fact that you even converse your shit here means you are a fanatical hypocrite.I suppose your own JW rules don't make sense neither,The Elders are wrong are they? when they told me that JW witnesses are not to associate with YT because of it's contents, Hypocrite you are, thankyou for you further non comments as anything you write has no credibility what so ever,I suggest you speak to your elders before you give JW's a worse name

[cuzzigothigh]

dude should be out working making money for his family lol

[saturnpluto12345]

jerrybenson i really appriciate the the good work your doing here but these people can not see daylight because they are blind.

[MrGoodweedindeed]

Trust me JW's are ignorant to other religions but this is because their clergy in headquarter demands this.

[Jewelsheam]

Bottom line, if everyone can just listen instead of thinking they already know, we may be able to learn something and get better as a species!

[lilconvers1]

What greater love is there, then to take time our of one's busy day, to go door to door and teach people about god, offer free home bible studies, and preach is good and troublesome seasons. She stoke right when she said, " We love you enough to tell you the truth. Jesus said that love is the greatest commandment and would define his disciples. I know countless of jw's who have aided persons to love god and change there sinful course of life. That greater love is there out there

[jwawesome1]

itsacult

[Psa1mist9]

Waste of time... How may converts do you think this guy got yelling at this convention.... ZERO! JW is false but this is not the way to expose them.

[mikelunz]

@sbgrox11 In all of that crowed though, it seems like it might be wrong if there is not even one christian there to plant seeds. Otherwise, some may not be saved when they easily could have been...

[twinspade]

This guy needs help

[Armagedonyourface]

This video should be titled: Wanker at an assembly...

[371240RTGLOG]

This should be titled: False Christian insist on

Harassing other religions at there gathered

place of worship, with the false pretense of "love".

Why? So he can contribute to making a video that

falsely portrays him as being a poor victim for a You tube video.

[1955annemarie]

@371240RTGLOG All a Christian can do is to hope that even one JWs heart & mind might be open to considering the evidence; that even just one might care enough about Jehovah God & Jesus to be willing to look at the scriptural evidence that so clearly portrays God's pure Truth; a truth that does not change; a truth that does not support the ever changing Watchtower, or its claims to be "God's Pure Channel" of truth, or its claims of authority over "God's People."

Satan's tactics have not changed.

[roynorw]

@371240RTGLOG great comment

[eliaseje]

The girl at the end has a great response!  Lol

[chowderpower11]

yeah girl get it. tell him

[trifulquita15]

Fact 1. JW's are respectful but have bad attitude

Fact 2. Evangelicals are crazy but fun

[cincyninja]

What did she say?

[SoNevFly]

LOL. Apostates....pathetic.

[MrDangermouth]

The idea that Jesus Christ is actually Michael the archangel is laughable lol! If Jesus was Michael the archangel, he would have just said it. John 8:58 "I say unto you, before Abraham was, I was...Michael the archangel." Did his disciples called him Michael? In Luke 9:20 when Jesus asked his disciples, whom say ye that I am? Did Peter answer by saying, " I believe you are Michael the archangel." NWT bible is the most twisted diabolical version.

[minigolfer101]

@jerrybenson going with the conv. with Grayhatt: We are NOT controlled by our organization, we choose whether or not to speak. They all felt that it would be a better choice not to engage him. We also defend our faith a whole lot. Like a bunch of us are doing now.

[tigerstyletony]

@minigolfer101 you can get disfellowshipped right now for just watching a video like this, and even more trouble for commenting on it. control to what you think, how you dress, who you love, who to hate. its all control. honestly, read what Jesus said in the NWT, and only what Jesus said, but pray for understanding on what you read.

[minigolfer101]

@tigerstyletony I understand what you mean, I am still learning, we all are. I just thought I should say something.

[tigerstyletony]

@minigolfer101 and that is great. life is a constant learning pattern. but people can argue all they want about what is good and what is not. the apostles and diciples argued constantly about what the scriptures contained. they had differing viewpoints as well. but did they go calling each other "apostate" or disfellowship one another? nope. in fact, apostate wasnt even a word until the 14th century. roman catholic actually. they replaced the word "godless" in the NWT with Apostate, do research.

[DCXjuggernautXCD]

@sbgrox11 You're right, that makes sense.. why would they want to engage someone who is there just to start a problem..

[THRIQUILLED]

yeah they really shouuld have acknowledged this guy "poor guy" . . . . 

[chirpieguy]

Shunned? Please. They smell an instigator and so do I. I love Bill Maher but I know darn well he doesn't walk into a group of Christians and starts talking to them to try to understand their position.

[Kachu2266]

Abbygay call me At 646-733-6561 lets talk about trinity show me I will like to kmow if you could show to me or give me your tel I will call you

[Karoke77]

My cult is better than yours!! =P

[DjDeFect1]

What is so frustrating is jw"s spend countless hrs preaching to people everywhere,and the3 days a year they get to spend relaxing and being encouraged with only mostly fellow brothers...you have this guy?why not just go to there local place of worship and start a dignified conversation "there" instead of bombarding them with "your" beliefs.At least they have the dignity to leave people alone that dont want to listen to them, but oh no! not this guy! he has to make a spectacle.GET A LIFE!

[echelonarmy1]

oh and to update your data. there's no rule that say's we are not to speak to thy preacher outside of the stadium. but from the looks of it, you broke a rule. for you are "preaching" and if i remember right, its JW and mormons who only preach. no one else. so it looks to me like you broke a rule. some one call his jesus. arrest that rule breaker.

[mashan1978]

Y'all are overthinking things. You're act like we can't speak up. What the man was"shouting" was coming from ignorance & misunderstanding. Witnesses do not go to other people's churches preaching in protest. That is what this man is doing. Why sit & debate with this man when the true teaching is going on inside? She spoke up because she has a mouth and can speak. The "TRUTH" is what we ironically call Jehovah's word. So that is what she was saying. They "defend the faith" EVERY SINGLE DAY.

[Psa1mist9]

LOL this guy just wasted his damn time. Nobody listens to a nut outside a convention yelling about Jesus.

[Respiratory1]

In addition this kingdom is a real government with a real king and it's going to do a lot of physical damage at armegeddon Dan 2:44. . . Their message is that Gods Kingdom is mankinds only hope for true peace and security. That this is the government man should look to to solve mankinds problems. And BTW they do not believe they EARN their salvation.

[Respiratory1]

What is an error is the last part Jerry's comment. Their message is God's Kingdom. This was the theme of Jesus preaching work Luke 8:1. . . Jesus commanded his true followers to pray for it in Matt 6:10 and he commanded his true followers to preach this same message in Matt 24:14 . . . The full title of the watchtower magazine they leave with people is "THE WATCHTOWER ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM"

[wayasurf]

just dont see any point to your teaching.......i have a lot of relatives who are JWs and a lot of workmates as well....and a country with a lot of people who say they are christian...we even have more than 500 denominayions...but i think jws live in accordance with the bible....that has been my personal opinion for mre than 2 years now........m attending their Annual Confrence in Fiji this weekend too....just got invited from my deskmate at work...

[jerrybenson]

It matters what we believe. Many groups claim to be Christian. They believe in God, Jesus, and the Bible. However, we must carefully determine what they mean by the words they use. Jesus to a witness is a created angel named Michael. They do NOT believe that Jesus rose bodily from the dead. They do NOT believe that the Holy Spirit is a person. The message they have to the world is join the organization which speaks for God and strive to earn your salvation. All are in error.

[james9408]

@jerrybenson of course we believe he rose from the dead...and the bible doesnt mention the holy spirit as a person.

[deekid311]

@jerrybenson first of all, ur taking ONE thing we believe about jesus and making it seem like that's all he is to us. we absolutely believe that he was resurrected to heaven and we hold his sacrifice in high regard. we appreciate him offering up his perfect life so that our sins could be blotted out. becuz of this, we have the chance to gain everlasting life.

[deekid311]

@jerrybenson you are totally right about us not believing that the holy spirit is a person. WHO WOULD??! i dont think u have to be a witness to logically conclude that the holy spirit never has nor will ever be a person. granted, it IS an entity. its like jehovah's active force, his dynamic energy. but the key word is "SPIRIT". an immaterial spirit cannot be a person. that defies the laws of metaphysics

[hubbleISS]

@jerrybenson I'm learning more about Jehovah's Witnesses and one main point. When I had a couple visit me, I told them I am a Christian, they said well we believe in God and Jesus too, but we do not believe in "his" deity. Is this not likened to preaching another *gospel* "..let him be accursed.", to say that He was not God in the flesh! Jesus was fully man and fully God, some deny this, clearly they did. IMO, thats the first thing that needs correcting!

[minigolfer101]

@jerrybenson We do not convert nor people ask to join our organization, we preach the bible and its good news and let the people we are talking to, to make there own decision. It's completely up to them whether or not they want to be a part of our religion.

[roppokai1]

@jerrybenson yes jesus is michael the archangel that existed in the heavens before he came to earth as a lil embryo in virgin marys womb again script backs that all up and as for him rising from the dead we preach and teach that all day long it is so very inportant to know jesus and know his position as well very important so dont get getting words all twisted up and wrong about jehovahs witnesses buddy the true christians :)

[Gideon6640man]

@jerrybenson Very good Jerry, scaling the language barrier is esential in dealing with the cults. They are drones filled with "Double Speak" as George Orwell wrote.

[abbyguy]

@wayasurf You should at least take the time to check out their teachings first. Like they believe Michael the arch angel is Jesus Christ, that Jesus was a created being, we should not worship Him, and the many many times they have prected events that nevre have come true. These are the signs of a false prophet, the bible tells us to watch out for anyone teaching any other Jesus than the one in the gospels...be vary very careful they are snakes in sheeps clothing and very deceptive!

[brofun]

@abbyguy you should take the time to discuss these issues with a witness..for you are misled on many facts.

[abbyguy]

@brofun : Hey they come to my place ALL the time...no need to look for them.

I also debate them online and they have yet to answer truthfully from the bible about ANY topic, it always comes from the Watchtower...pathetic when you take your dogma from an organization rather than the source...The REAL Bible and the bastardized version called the New World Translation, done by uneducated, untrained, lay people, who claim to get their insight form God...HA!! That's rich!

[brofun]

@abbyguy What is 'your place'? You can ask me any question you like. The watchtower is simply a journal that discusses the bible in it's many facets. It does not take the place of the bible in any way. As for the new world translation, calling it a basterdized version is false. First, it is a direct translation from the original languages, thus, it is not a version. If you have problems with it..feel free to name the issues..I have no problem discussing any topics concerning the bible.

[abbyguy]

@brofun : First you should go watch the video "Jehovah Witnesses, Jesus is God..." parts 1 and 2 on my channel. Answer the questions posited and the maybe we can talk.

[sabrinatai31]

@brofun "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces." ( Matthew 7: 6) You can not argue with people who are set in their own ways . The video is good to remind believers of what is out there but past that we must not comment . I know this is hard as I erase a comment my self . We must let god fight this battle at a later dated .

[sabrinatai31]

@abbyguy

I only want to say that jws do not answer questions that leads to arguing on proving . They are taught to not argue about god with any one. I know any one who claims to be christian would never want to become angry in the name of god. This is why people back down from heated topics or debates . Christians are suppose to be meek and humble, not angry debaters and uncivilized to our brothers. Every one has to learn to respect each others choices no matter what .

[abbyguy]

@sabrinatai31 : Well said, I respect your position. Thanks for the point.

[seanytoyguns]

@wayasurf I'm sorry but jehovah witness' don't live in accordance with the bible but there own versions and distorted beliefs

[brofun]

@seanytoyguns feel free to explain and defend this remark.

[seanytoyguns]

@brofun They believe that Jesus and God are not one, and they believe that they will get to heaven based on good deeds not faith, and most of all they believe that only a few believers will make it to heaven and the vast majority will remain on earth. You ccan't say this ain't true because i knw this is what they believe, but if you also believe that i would like to talk to you about it

[brofun]

@seanytoyguns You are not quite accurate in your statements. No, we do not believe that Christ and Jehovah are God almighty. WE believe as the bible says, Jesus is the son of God. They are one in unity..but not the same person. WE do not believe we can earn our way to heaven..we cannot earn salvation, it is a gift. However, there are requirements to gain this gift. Yes, only a few will go to heaven..the majority of those who gain salvation will inherit the earth..just as the bible says. 

[seanytoyguns]

@brofun Read John 10:30 and all your questions will be answered! and the bible doesn't say only a few will make it to heaven, read me the scripture and i'll be happy to show you were your mistaking

[brofun]

@seanytoyguns yes, feel free to message me on any topic. I'm open to discussing it because I feel it is the most important topic on earth at this time!

[seanytoyguns]

@wayasurf they really don't live in accordance with the bible, i would be happy to explain if you like

[brofun]

@seanytoyguns You can exlain it to me if you like!

[cubanboy740]

Keep up the good work Jerry, I am an Ex-JW, And i have to tell you that im happy to see someone Who loves this people so much to waste your time trying to help deaf ears, i am so happy im not shunning you so much and i am sorry that we Ex-JW shunned you, The Watchtower lied to us and told us that people like you where Wiked of Satan, but i have opened my eyes to see the real truth, Once a false prophet, AWAYS a false prophet. Again i am very sorry Jerry, God bless you.

[radoliz2]

They love you enough to spend a lot of their personal income to visit your home, along with billions of other homes, to carry on a FREE no obligation home bible study. These studies are geared towards enlightening people to the truth about Jesus sacrafice, and the true loving personality of Jehovah God, who was all but written out of the bible, by religions like yours, for the sake of the mind numbing trinity doctrine! You did make a fool of yourself in front of Jehovah, but they still love ya!

[radoliz2]

They love you enough to spend a lot of their personal income to visit your home, alomg with billions of other homes to carry on FREE no obligation home bible studies. These studies are geared towards enlightening peoplet o the truth scrafice of Jesus, and the true loving personality of Jehovah God who was written out pof the bible by religion like yours for the sakle of the mind numbing trinity doctrine! You did make a fool of yourself in front of Jehovah, but they still love ya!

[Grayhatt]

What rules did she break? All she said, was a counter argument to what the "preacher" was saying. "we love YOU enough to tell YOU the TRUTH TOO."

[jerrybenson]

Hi gra,

I will repeat the description of this post of the young Jehovah's Witnesses girl who broke the silence of thousands "and shared her heart to preacher while elders and leaders walked by and denied their god."

Jerry

[Grayhatt]

@jerrybenson That's only part of your "description" there bud.

Girl: " "we love YOU enough to tell YOU the TRUTH TOO.""

[jerrybenson]

Gra,

You miss the point. Witnesses controlled by the organization couldn't speak even if they wanted to. This cult like control keeps witnesses from thinking on their own and even forbids them to defend the faith. I applaud this young girl for speaking when the leaders refused to defend the faith and instead deny their savior. Something is dreadfully wrong.

Jerry

[Grayhatt]

@jerrybenson Watchtower: Be Ready Always to Make a Defense:

As good Christian teachers of law Jehovah’s witnesses must not only expound the law of God but must also defend the faith and hope based on this law. 1 Peter 3:15

Enough said, you are mixing up defending the faith with speaking to apostates and/or those that are not willing to reason. If you are either, then I will take my leave as well. Romans 16:17, 18, "Avoid them."

[TzManiac01]

@jerrybenson pass summer there were some high school kids screaming like you were about jesus and the devil. and guess what no one paid attention to them just laughing at them cuz they looked crazy just trying to get attencion. we will all see when the end of this world come and then we will ass who was in the correct religion

[mashan1978]

@jerrybenson That isn't true. I would research what you say before making acusations on innocent people. The firm belief is of that at 1 Peter 3:15 "But sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make defense before everyone that demands of you a reason for the hope in you, but doing so in a mild manner and deep respect." Jehovah's Witnesses see so much persecution day to day. This girl just spoke her mind but in a mld manner. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[edumarcelin]

@jerrybenson .....We Jehovah´s Witnesses are the Only ones who really study and understand the Bible, you know nothing about the Bible... we are the only ones who love people and show it to the world, we don´t talk and talk and talk, we DO, facts, facts, facts, you are like pharisees, preaching false doctrines at the squares, and the streets, but Jehovah´s looking at you, and we are close to the end...

[TheLatelycrew]

@edumarcelin it is very clear that jerrybenson is an apostate! lets just ignore his ignorance. Clearly its apostate everywhere and we cant escape persecution. True followers of Jehovah are always persecuted because its obvious we're doing something right! Just like Jesus Christ was persecuted for what he believed!

[ThirdNUnion]

@TheLatelycrew Interesting comment,

Acts 4:24-30 the apostles did not pray for an escape from persecution, rather they prayed for...(Acts 4:29) 29 And now, Jehovah, give attention to their threats, and grant your slaves to keep speaking your word with all boldness,

“If they have persecuted me, they will persecute you also.” (John 15:20)

[TheLatelycrew]

@jerrybenson let correct you on something jw's are not cults! if you do research you will find that cults are not out with their religion openly they hide their teachings, this is clearly the opposite of jw's!

the elders did not comment to the preacher because it was simply irrevalant to respond to someone that clearly does not understand what jw's are about, would you respond to ignorance? the jw's did not respond simply because they know the truth about their religion

[wallooga]

@jerrybenson

You're crazy if you believe that. Most witnesses have the wisdom not to engage in a fruitless game of intellectual swordsmanship with someone who clearly is not "open" to discussion, but simply seeks to break down and "catch out". The young sis made the point simply and effectively without missing a beat or wasting a step, doubtless she is on the "front line" with people 1-2-1 week in week out. Without a camera. Without Utube or self glory. Without the mark of the beast.

[brofun]

@jerrybenson Jerry..if you are an ex witness, they are obeying the bible. We do not speak, or greet anyone who is called a brother who is an apostate. I don't know if you are an ex witness or not..but, they are not there to get into a religious debate with you in public..they are going to their assembly..to learn more bout the bible and Jehovah.

[niterider1914]

you should have went into the convention and listened how to really preach to people, according to the bible. you just made yourself look like a fool in this video. very sad to watch. are you doing what jesus was talking about at matt 24 :14 ? far from it !!!!!

[ThirdNUnion]

shes a KID 

[1914watcher]

New World Translation

1 Peter 3:18-20

Jesus went and "PREACHED" to the spirits in prison...(Why?) Spirit creatures and mankind were created from Jesus and His Father Jehovah (Gen 1:26). So why would Jesus waste his time to preach to "ONCE" perfect ANGELS after his death as a man?

I guess those spirits recieved the first Watchtower Publication.. "JESUS IS YOUR KING..YOU"RE SCREWED!"

[analiticaluser]

@1914watcher - because Jesus was preaching to them a msg of condemnation. He preached to them knowing he would be the one to eliminate them (demons) from existence when he delivers a bruise to the head, incurring death.

[rud217]

So, what's the point of your preaching?

Do you think Jesus and apostles did it in such a way? How many hearts did you reach?I would like to see you preaching also to other people, not only to Jehovah's Witnesses.

[jerrybenson]

rud,

Jesus and the apostles preached openly the truth of God because of their love for the truth and the concern they had for the people that heard their words. We stated this many times in our message to Jehovah's Witnesses.

Jerry

[MagusGod]

@jerrybenson You are still a liar. I do not see the love and compassion that Jesus Christ showed when he preached in you. You are ravenous wolves in disguise.