True Crip and Blood Origin Story They don' t Want you to know. Part Two

[donnykeebab1]

ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!­

[soonperp2]

thats it the story was just getting good

[Ceeza60]

@free4873 u have all ur 120?? WSGC?? ESGC?? u been crippin for 2 years cuz u havnt even scratched the surface of wat crippin really is....first off that C-code u spit isn't originally from crips, that's 8ball shit n 8ball been cracced, n there was no gangsta crips Bacc then, only WS ES n CpT....alot of crips on the eastcoast go by 8ball rules n codes, but niggaz gotta remember we originate in cali not Chicago or were ever folks r from...we never have n never will bang "under" the 6, we may bang

[cashmadeflo]

@Ceeza60 wat i be tryna tell the ga niggas and nyc niggas ion bang no damn six star i aint no gd

[NubiansRuledTheWorld]

@Ceeza60

Niggas still claiming the 6 & some 120? Man Ceeza60 thancs cuzz, fools dont need to bang if they dont know what they doin. Aint no locs in Cali bangin no 5 or 6 point star, thats chicago gangs like u said earlier.

[disnukka79]

Where did you get your socks?

[ANT1989]

"GET TO THA DAMN FUCKIN PART!!!"....Lol

[free4873]

look Zane Smith? the 3 founding fathers are tookie,raymond,and jamel barnes

i been crippin in baltimore for about 2 yrs...DHGC DxG Hxu$3 GanG$ta Crip

i have all my 120 an nothin bout no zane smith...cant claim nothin wit no baccround feel me

the first crip sets were westside gangsta crip(WSGC) and eastside gangsta crips(ESGC)

started by tookie and raymond..ppl need to stop claimin shit lol how u gonna say YOUR? 1 of the 3 founding fathers thats got to be a joke

[HeartReader57]

@free4873 Cuzz, I was Cripping in the early 1970's with E/S Crips running with Hatchett Man (David Jackson) who was with Raymond in the beginning. Jamel was NOT a founding general. He was the Leader of the Avalon Gardens Crips and only became CRIP because of probles with a rival gang called the WALL NUTS. I went to Locke HS and knew Lil James (Leader of the 118th St Crips). This brother knows many of the early bangers I knew. Wasn't no gangster CRIPS back in the day. Only E/S, W/S and Compton

[HeartReader57]

@free4873. Back then if you were CRIP, you could go anywhere that was CRIP, wasn't no set tripping. What he is talking about 103rd (which is now Grape St CRIPS). I hung with Lil James while @ Locke HS. This brother nevr SAID he was a founder, but an organizer and recruiter Cuhz. As an OG Avalon 5-Tray CRIP (South Park), I find some of his story credible from some the of events described. Other info I can validate since he was mainly COMPTON & I was E/S. Mac Thomas was known as General of Compton

[HeartReader57]

@free4873. Cripping Started 1969 (E/S), W/S CRIPS started 1971 as well as COMPTON sometime in between E/S and W/S. Main CRIP subset that was E/S back in the day was CASTLE CRIPS (now non-existent) & some KITCHEN CRIPS along with 4-Tray CRIPS (Leader Black Johnny). Alot of ppl get confused between founding a SUBSET and an Area (i.e E/S, W/S, CPT). Many people do not KNOW that PIRU's once converted to CRIPS 4 a short time. Seen alot of liars talking CRIP, this aint 1. OG HAMMER E/S AGC 53 (1972)

[cashmadeflo]

@HeartReader57 so wats good wit all dat trippin now den why if niggas roccin the same shit why dey cnt move freely

[HeartReader57]

@cashmadeflo. To answer your question about restrictions of movement and "set tripping". It is about 2 sources primarily. One is the drugs of the late 70's to make that paper. When Cripping began in '69 and as far as about '75, it was about pride in your hood and no drug selling, only being macho to see who was the best with hands. The 2nd element was the war between the 8-Tray Gangsters and Rolling 60's over a female and murking each other. THAT WAS WHEN CRIP SETS TOOK SIDES with each set

[HeartReader57]

@cashmadeflo. You had Hoover Crips (turned Hoover Criminals turned Hoover Huslter, turned back to the original Hoover Groovers) siding with Rolling 60's, Rolling 90's etc. Crips sets that used to be allies turned into enemies siding with one side or the other. The descendents of the Original East Side Crips is now the East Coast Crips. Many of the Sets that allied themselves with Monster Cody 8-Trey Gangsters were other "Trey sets". You even have some blood sets allied with crimes sets 2 make $

[HeartReader57]

@cashmadeflo - Another element was when the 3 Top OG's (Raymond Washiington E/S, Stanley ("Tookie") Williams W/S and Mac Thomas Compton were removed from the picture through getting murked or incarceration, Each Leader of a Crip subset tried to take the reigns of power and be a leader to take over the top OG position which also caused yet more splintering and separation among CRIPS. 103rd Grape St (use purple bandanas), Fudge Town Mafia (uses brown or blue), Hoover changed to Orange as subsets.

[HeartReader57]

@cashmadeflo - so mainly today it is about making paper and who can best assist them. The set I was with Avalon 5-Trey which was composed of individuals from 5-deuce, 5-tray and fo-seven Crips also allied themselves with Broadway Five-Deuce Gangster Crips and shared South Park together mutually to get that money. E/S Avalon Gangsters are allied wit W/S 8-Trey Gangsters, Avalon 116, Avalon 40's MINUS E/S 4-tray gangsters which are enemies every since the 1970 when they were lead by a Black Johnny

[757CitiesReppa]

@free4873 BMo niggas got they own history...cah that bamma ass shit fam.

[mskm13th]

I never understood the gangster concept? Really what was accomplished? All gangs did was help divide a race! Black on black crime fueled by hate, boredom? Please, when the SHTF, they'll be the first shot dead, or thrown into an indefinite detention being labeled a terrorist! NDAA Section 1031, 1032, 1033. Check it out folks, times ARE changing! Better step away from the distractions and take some time to figure out how to catch up!

[LAClippersfan2]

aslong a we call are selfs black we are slaves to the united states juristdiction. WE ARE MOORS . WE DIDNT COME HERE ON SLAVES SHIPS

[NubiansRuledTheWorld]

@LAClippersfan2

Moor means black

[Cynisty60]

where's the rest of the video?

[eljahsiemallah]

@fucky0uish Black people have to learn how to unite on common grounds. We are all apart of the same black family. It is the division and the divisive tactics that keep us weak. Self hate and lack of value for each other. Of course you can't save others before you save your self. However we must be concerned about the plight and conditions of our people starting here in America then globally. Rise up black family, our ancestors are the original people of the planet.

[BigTex3rd]

Where's part 3?

[RIDWEST]

CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURiP ! BLUE D GANG

[iFuckYou101]

where is part 3 .fuck snoop and game fake studio gangstas

[thenightspot]

i need to see part 3 this story is great

[7duece0]

wheres part 3?

[The72koenig]

ALL GANG MEMBERS ARE GOOFS AND SKINNERS!!!

[717021]

So would the Backstreet Boys be considered a gang? They are alwasy hanging out together and shit......I would bet there is some kind of jump in or initiation that is probably musical in nature.

[KnoThyself]

where's part 3????????????????????

[Zeroxisxback]

not to affend anyone but being in a gang is stupied -.-

[sampsonelectro2224]

I dont get how his jacket incident is is related to the founding of the crips?

[KagoLouKefe]

FUcK THEM cKRAB NIGGAZ !! SUUWOOP WEST SIDE PIRU

[RIDWEST]

CRiP AiNT FOLK . GET iT RiGHT CUHZ .CRiP AINT 6 WE ANY THANG . GET YO HiSTORY STR8 /

[717021]

@RIDWEST Word, foo. You strait cuz. Nobody know what the fuck you talking bout, cuz. You write in all caps, cuz. You can't spell cuz. You gonna work in a profession with a name tag, cuz. You be filling french fry containers while you crippin' cuz.

[RIDWEST]

@717021 YOU DONT KNOE ME . I CAN SPELL HOW EVER I WONT TO CUHZO . GET YOUR HiSTORY STR8 B4 YOU GET YO CRiP ON DUMB ASS . NOT LiKE THESE OTHERS CLAIMiNG FOLKS LiKE THEY CRiPS . BUNCH OF COPY CATS .

CRiPS AiNT 6 STARS . WE ANYTHING ASK THE NiGGAS iN L.A BiARCH !

[anuthutantrum]

@RIDWEST your caps lock is on bra

[Romelus69]

Damn, you got to post the ...lolrest of this shit now...you can`t just cut a nigga off now that they intereted

[tkRuebkluejay]

ay like to keepk it 100, this isn't all the knowledge lol. bkig homie holdin bkacc on some. i can understand why though bkecause its certain things you just can't say on camera. WE$T RICH ROLLIN 60'$ N.H.C! $LAU$ON & CREN$HAW CRIppIN FKUCC TRAMpK$ & THE OFF bKRAND$! O.b.G HK60D$TKV GRIM! C.I.p b.G TAZ! OOWOO!

[BG4LIFE]

THE PUNK ON THE RIGHT IS DOIN POSING ON SOME STUFF HE GOT NO BUZZNESS IN

[banginblubugg]

what did he mean at the end when he said roy had other plans

[poloblack88]

Okay where is the rest of the history....part one and two is all I see where is the rest ???

[fierokr3w]

im 5 point piru a.k.a. bloodz cuz were i live you have to be in a gang or they jump u everyday so i said aight

[Steadno]

some rare history 100

[elbxrubio]

also not to say to much but SURTAIN NOT ALL!!!sets in nyc are officially connected NOW!!!and thats maybe 2or 3

like the 83GANGSTER not all 83GANGSTERS in nyc are official like in the bronx and around other boroughs u got 83KGC and sum other fractions of the name that are just home grown names,i happen to know the real ones,but i wont go futher then that....and of course you got these guys that are lying to these kids saying they from LA that the set is based dont believe the hype bs/csits BS

[Big294Wesley]

I don't alll the whole history, I am just talking about what this guys story is. Its documented he knows what he is talking about. As far as the east coast I am from Jersey and the blood shit didnt really get big there till late 90s early 2000. My cousin and them were real big in it. They still are. His name is Face. Him and his brother are both pretty serious with that shit.

[RichyJA]

@Big294Wesley you got that right thats around the time they started slashing people in October I grew up in all of that

[DatLaidBackNigga]

@Big294Wesley Face da god?

[StrictlyTreezEnt]

@elbxrubio my big homie 83rd he from LA but his family is in the bx

[RahBinks]

@elbxrubio if u think 83kgc not connected, u got shit wrong.... i've seen too many pics & seen too much proof.... ima leave it at that..... in flatbush, NY? og biz from 82nd & normandie in LA.....

[DestinysVictor]

Yea but its a known fact that the Baby Avenues which is what Raymond Washington originally called his gang was modeled after the Slausons all of those gang members or at least most of them were Panthers.They were 5000 strong at one point.

[elbxrubio]

as far as the crips in NYC im not to clear where it came from or who brought it only thing i can say is asking the harlem rolling 30s in harlem about that because of what i was told they were among the very first sets that erupted in MANHATTANif there is still such a person he might shed sum light by tracing his or her footsteps back to were they got it from,not to downplay the crips because i come from a long line of homies that are crips and believe me! im official to this report

[KLRKRIS]

I heard a puerto rican guy started the crips over here.

[RichyJA]

@elbxrubio I heard through the grapevine that one of The members from L.A. who was of Belizean background came to NY and started in the 80s

[elbxrubio]

in the eastcoast (nyc)bloods were started because of prison beef between the latin kings and some of the black inmates in rikers island,and i remember in 93 going into 94 the slashing began on the street over people wearing red colors clothes,im from the area where the street part of the gang began wich was morris heights bronx bloods came out of 183rd n davidson ave and og mack is no LA blood

now a days u got LA bloods in nyc and they actually do apply no sensless color beefs by b's/c's

[sharkane321]

the bloods and the crips are just an excuse to do crack and other crime..get on the boat....

[juicemannye]

and all this crips and bloods shyt casme from the black panthers tookie was the musle mad raymond was the brains behind the secene

[juicemannye]

lot monther fucc like talk shit on the utbe abt this and that but can they go to la and talk this bullshyt in front thiere set no cuz g remain silent same for the crips ni99as from west come out end influence ni99as to bang with out west coast permission but now thse u do have west coast ni99as living on the east coast how da fucc u think this shyt got here cuz bacc in day east coast ni99a never banged we only had crews and hoods and rep ur city that it

[juicemannye]

yea thats it true cuz these bloods will come out end influnece east coast ni99as to bang with out west coast permission ut this fool dnt knw crip do stand coummity revoultion in progress

[ensanguined2]

@juicemannye back in the day it didn't it was just a name for them it didn't have that meaning

[Big294Wesley]

Like I said I am just trying to give this guy a forum to tell his story. I dont know about what anybody else did. He was a baby panther and started something that was similar. It got fucked up along the way though and turned into what you see today.

[rickytee60]

Big Wes good lookin out on ur video posts brother, these oral histories help people understand where we've been, where we are, where we've made wrong turns, and where we need to be. I enjoyed the videos and was extremely intrigued, however, there's only two videos??? It'd be really dope to get a chance to see and hear Zane finish his story. Once again, good lookin out Big Wes!

[Big294Wesley]

Zane says that out here in LA it was all different hoods that he brought under CRip. Piru was included in that. They had beef with the Brims and then fell out with the piru boys over his jacket and some other shit. The chicago shit is something I dont anything about really. One of my cousins in Newark has a boy named Jiwe that wrote a book called War of the Blood. He knows the guy that founded the P stones but who did all the other shit I dont know

[Big294Wesley]

This is Zane Smith. He was the Organizer of the crips. He was into the baby panthers originally and brought in alot of the original hoods in compton together to make the first crips. The piru boys and them was crew according to him but they got to beefing somehow. He could tell you more than me. He knew Stanley and ray and all the piru boys too.

[zztopis]

from what i heard piru was allied with crip but then they

spilt and they made the bloods and now you got UBN/EAST COAST BLOODS/CRIPS but the ones from the west coast don"t consider them real.Sylvester Scott and Vincent Owens made the bloods.

then you got others like LMG,hidden valley kings,GD,

Black p stones,Guerrilla family,vice lords.

[zztopis]

well on the east coast there was a west coast blood named OG mack and he started the whole eastcoast bloods & crips. all i know is that B & C were just as bad

as KKK.

[yungGDfolkntion]

@Big294Wesley on some real shit i never heard of you, never ever heard of Zane Smith. All i heard about was Stanley Lee Washington Stanley Tooki Williams. never heard of you

[CSmoCC]

@Big294Wesley The beef all started over an incident where a piru street guy got shot, now there was an incident where Crips saying we never kill big hommie, the cops put it on us, but in the end that never was accepted, this what piru mean when they say Crip step on a piru shoe. When piru first was on game they worse blue was Crippin, it was the Piru Crips. They turned it around after the beef put burgendy on which, they say signifies the dried blood of our dead hommies.

[zztopis]

I thought that crips wanted to be like Black panthers but

they got curupt and they made bloods/piru to fight them

then some crips formed Hoover criiminals then it went from westcoast to east coast. and Raymond washington and Stanly tookie williams made the crips & Sylvester Scott and Vincent Owens.

[RichyJA]

@zztopis Thats how it was when youngsters get involved they were full of anger and couldnt get along with one another