I know many muslims, jewish people, and christains alike who feel that judge is just an intollerant ass hole that judge is a fucking joke he doesn't even live in california
This is the typical gutless ACLU. They attack people after they have gone to the grave, especially our Heroes. Sorry no more PC crap. They take the cross down I am putting another one up. I will not let the ACLU dishonor our Veterans. If the ACLU doesn't like it, take me on. The memorial for these soldiers will not disappear in history. This memorial is above the supreme court and the American people, this was built by people who defended our freedoms and it belongs to them.
are you kidding me?!? one idiot gets to tear down a memorial to Vets? who is this (insert expetive)? and more importantly, why are we letting him do it? stand up america, stand up and shout "we will not let one person decide for the rest of us!!!!"
No crosses should be on United States Government property, huh? Has anyone seen a picture of Arlington Memorial Cemetery? White crosses spread across what looks like MILES of government property. Are they going to pluck those up next? Christians in this country need to unite and fight for OUR liberties.
It is a shame in this country that one or two individuals can cause such a honored symbol for our veterns to be taken down. This is the problem with the USA now a days. Because a few people do not like something they don't even see on a regular basis can cause the majority to lose a symbol of honor for those who fought and died for our freedom.
Good example: "The ACLU's research shows that U.S. terrorism financing policies and practices are seriously undermining American Muslims' protected constitutional liberties and violating their fundamental human rights to freedom of religion, freedom of association, and freedom from discrimination."
The ACLU are VERY selective on who's liberties are being violated. They are NOT for all us "Americans". When was the last time they came to the aid of any Christian issue? They're coming to the aid of the Muslims all over the place. The ACLU is anti-Christian pure and simple. They have no credibility on any issue and it is our of our faults for not standing against them harder than we have. I think Christians have an obligation to God to fight ACLU at every level. Just don't know how?
kwlincoln, the ACLU defended Jerry Fallwell's right to incorporate his church, as just one example of many. (you could Google the facts, it's all precedent) The ACLU is not anti-christian, they are an equal opportunity pain in the arse. The right of respect in death and in memorial should be the issue; the intent of the memorial matters more than the symbol it employs.
SO many men and women died to give some jerk in Oregon the right to be "offended" by this cross. I have the right to be offended by his actions. This is America-we speak english, we worship GOD and we honor our VETS. the aclu can go to 7734
We are a coutry for the people and by the people. All people. What's next for Liberals? Will churches, mosques, etc. start "offending" them because of a displayed icon, or simply the "shape" of the building? I'm offended by people who don't bathe reguarly, especially in a crowded area. Should we have a Federal law requiring daily bathing so I don't get offended and put "dirty" people in jail?
It's simple. As natives, welcome those who wish to come and bring with them a positive and respectful attitude. Allow them thier faith. Enjoy thier offerings.
As newcomers, feel safe but DO NOT expect the status quo to alter. You have come for the fruits. Share in them but respect the culture and the faith. Even if you do not wish to practise it.
Is that not more than fair. It's actually something Christ himself may have been ok with. He believed in live and let live. Leave the cross
In Australia, where I live, we have had similar issues.
Recently a crucifix was removed from a chapel in a Sydney hospital in the name of political correctness.
I was delighted to see a local Muslim community leader speaking out on national television AGAINST this stupidity.
His words were to the effect that as a Muslim living in a Christian nation, he would expect to see, and certainly not be offended by seeing a Christian symbol of faith in such a place.
I want to post how sad this makes me and how sad it is what America is turning into regardless of how the citizens feel. We love our country and respect our VETS, why can't our government do the same. Why are they hell bent on being anti everything patriotic.. Oh that's right we have a false President calling the shots now.
This is unbelievable, not just in america do people believe in GOD all over the WORLD we have CRISTIANS and we are the majority, how come we can't take the none believers to court and say" we don't like that they don't pray and we want them to pray and put crosses up "? We need to try that and see if the court tells them they have to do that! GOD BLESS ALL THE VETERANS AND OUR MILITARY!!!!!!
This is yet another out right attack on our Lord Jesus. But a day is some aclu that you will have to answer for what you have done. Every Knee will bow and Ever tongue will confess.
This is sickening. Inch by inch, they are squelching us, beating us down to the point of apathy. May the spirit that guided our forfathers again rise and perpetuate the forces of common sense, decency and good over evil. may thier enduring love of country,at any cost, instill in us the fortitude to again, rise to the cause of justice and the truths of human nature as so brilliantyly conveyed in our Declaration of Independence.
We've worked so hard not to offend "New Americans" that we have forgotten the roots of America. A cross, as a memorial on governent land. Our country has many memorials dedicated to those who have made it possible for America to exist. It seems like people have forgotten that America is a Christian based country. A country that allows all people, from all countries and religious beliefs to be citizens. I hate seeing the core beliefs being erased.
What is wrong with this picture? Why have we become a nation of cry babies. You don't like the cross? Take a different route. Live and let live. Our Vets deserve a personal monument. I bet someone in the area would donate a tiny piece of land to put the cross on.
Drive out there with a bucket of white paint. If a white cross was too appear upon their plywood box overnight ? Are they going too place gaurds on it ? 5 minutes work.
With all due respect to VETS past, present and future and from a position of which I consider myself a Christian, the cross was wrongly placed in the first place. I do however agree that it should remain there. Know this, it is this very separation and founding American ideal that allows me to practice "Freedom of Religion." The very same American ideal that allows me to have my "Freedom of Thought and Speech."
How do you call yourself a Christian, when the cross represents the Savior whom you are supposed to be serving. Do you confess in Jesus Christ in the flesh? YES! OR NO!
The thing that no one mentions is that this cross is on federal land and the law suit started when a member of another religion wanted to put their symbol alongside it and it wasn't allowed by the government. The Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution prohibits this sort of thing.
My personal opinion is that the vets that sacrificed for our country, in part, did their job to protect the Constitution, and this flies in the face of it. Christians don't get a monopoly on expression.
This is rediculous and I hope they're wrong about the guy in Oregon being Roman Catholic. But with 54 % of Roman Catholics voting for Obama, he very well could be. This is just typical liberalisim and ACLU shenanigans.
Let me state simply that no TRUE Roman Catholic would EVER do what this supposed "Catholic" is doing. I am a devout Roman Catholic. It is wrong to call yourself a Roman Catholic and do something this absolutely heartless. My heart goes out to all the soldiers, past, present and future, you have my deepest respect, thank you for what you do!! You are in my prayers.
This memorial cross is no different than the ones at all national cemeteries through the free world. Most people in the US have never taken the time to look at the back side of a one dollar bill. Every US Navy ship fly a church pennent above the US Flag during church services on sunday.
If this ridiculous behavior doesn't stop here, on earth, it will be judged on our journey to sit with our Father, Creator, God, be it how ever you refer to Him. It is our constitutional right, as it is written in tribute to our freedom to worship God, that we are able to give thanks and praise to those who have and are yet, fighting for our freedom to do just that. The separation of church and state is written in the term that the government bears no right to advise us of our religious beliefs.
The only offense here is that WE THE PEOPLE allow our government dictate what is and isn't sacred based on some jerkoff in Oregon who MIGHT drive out to the desert and MIGHT see this hallowed place and MIGHT get offended? FUCK HIM! Take the plywood off that cross and break it up into clubs and send some of the VFW members to his door and ask him if he still has a problem with a Veterans Memorial that gave him the opportunity to be such an asshole!
So, some guy in Oregon, MIGHT ride by there and get offended???........Tell him to stay home, or close his Friggin eyes if he doesn't like it!!......Geeez...you have Got to be kidding me...
We seem to allow ACLU to do what they think is right, and not pay respect to our VETS. Why should we take this abuse from a bunch that has no Patriotic feelings for our country. Lets get rid of them and the hell with "Political Correctness".
God bless our servicemen and women past and present.
Phil, Watch the Appeals Court if you want but,,,,,most ALL Courts in our Great Country is run by EVIL People. Don't think so? Let's see thry took God out of school, the Ten Commandments can not be Displayed. Heck why not just send an Invite to the Devil. This Country was Founded on God, not the Courts, Not Judges, definately not Politics. Get Politics out and let "We the people" back in. What is so upsetting about a moment of Silence any where?
The least we the living can do is to respect the sacrifices of the soldiers of the past and in so doing respect the tributes due to them and much more. This tribute is the very least we can do for the sacrifices of life given in defense of Freedom less we forget that freedom is not free, it is bought by American lives of the brave soldiers of then and now. Honor our Fallen Hero's and leave the Cross Tribute there. They deserve the tribute as we do the freedom they gave us.
Watching this video made me very sad and extremely angry at the far left socialist communists who are the ACLU! I think it's time for every American who cares about his or her country to step up and fight against these EVIL people! They have done way too much damage already! I really believe that if these people and those who support them in the courts and the federal government are left to continue their EVIL ways without a fight, then our Great Country Is Doomed! GOD HELP US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The covering of the Mojave cross offends me!! Too many of my dear friends made the ultimate sacrifice so we can enjoy our freedom. Many others, including myself, answered our country's call to preserve that freedom. I will NOTallow the American Communist Liberals Union to deny my right to view the Mojave cross. There are things that make me mad and then there are things that make me fighting mad. This despicable, cowardly action makes me fighting mad! LEAVE THE CROSS ALONE!!!!!......... :(
Our veterans deserve the respect that each and every one of them did for our country, our liberty and our freedom! This breaks my heart and also gives me little faith in "OUR" government. That cross is not just a memorial. It stands for much more than that. This injustice needs more media attention. I find it sad that there have been so few views of this video. I am going to join this fight for our veterans, for our current soldiers and for our future soldiers! I will stand up! Will you?
That cross stands for our freedom. Freedom that was earned from our veterans. Freedom that is still being fought over today. LEAVE THE CROSS ALONE. We need to be fighting to tear down the ACLU.
That Judge deserves Pancreatic Cancer followed by a painful death.
homertalk 1 year ago
Amazing video guys!!
wcudcccuncg2013 1 year ago
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No need to outlaw religion.
Religion is dwindling worldwide
as education becomes universal.
Primitive man thought that thunder was the shouting of gods,
that lightning was the spears of gods,
that the eclipse was god turning out the lights.
As science explains more and more natural phenomena
there are fewer and fewer dark corners of ignorance
for god(s) to hide in.
Education dissolves Religion.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
They are deliberately destroying our right to worship our Creator.
SKeene1956 2 years ago 3
I know many muslims, jewish people, and christains alike who feel that judge is just an intollerant ass hole that judge is a fucking joke he doesn't even live in california
ila6435 2 years ago 8
strange thing is that not too many news networks or tv shows by now are even covering this blatant act of unpatriotism that the ACLU has commited
ila6435 2 years ago 7
Very sad with all the real problems the ACLU and the courts are wasting there time on this ! Sad, very sad
akbossman 2 years ago 6
damn... the ACLU are seriouse douche bags
ila6435 2 years ago 7
This is the typical gutless ACLU. They attack people after they have gone to the grave, especially our Heroes. Sorry no more PC crap. They take the cross down I am putting another one up. I will not let the ACLU dishonor our Veterans. If the ACLU doesn't like it, take me on. The memorial for these soldiers will not disappear in history. This memorial is above the supreme court and the American people, this was built by people who defended our freedoms and it belongs to them.
christianbrigade 2 years ago 5
I'm not sure why my family has defended this country anymore.
PanzerAce88mm 2 years ago 3
What a disgrace ....onr guy in oregon who has never been there is getting this done?? pathetic individual......sign of the times
ironmancwb 2 years ago 2
The ACLU are Satan's disciples, plain and simple. They're the most destructive organization in the country, even more so than our federal government.
tonusaitis 2 years ago 4
are you kidding me?!? one idiot gets to tear down a memorial to Vets? who is this (insert expetive)? and more importantly, why are we letting him do it? stand up america, stand up and shout "we will not let one person decide for the rest of us!!!!"
barneyinc2 2 years ago 2
No crosses should be on United States Government property, huh? Has anyone seen a picture of Arlington Memorial Cemetery? White crosses spread across what looks like MILES of government property. Are they going to pluck those up next? Christians in this country need to unite and fight for OUR liberties.
GA70ChevelleGirl 2 years ago 2
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smyers1987 2 years ago
I'm offended by it NOT being there. How about that? Maybe *I* should raise a lawsuite against the ACLU for being OFFENCIVE to ME!!!!!
digithead01 2 years ago 2
It is a shame in this country that one or two individuals can cause such a honored symbol for our veterns to be taken down. This is the problem with the USA now a days. Because a few people do not like something they don't even see on a regular basis can cause the majority to lose a symbol of honor for those who fought and died for our freedom.
bandzetta2002 2 years ago
Good example: "The ACLU's research shows that U.S. terrorism financing policies and practices are seriously undermining American Muslims' protected constitutional liberties and violating their fundamental human rights to freedom of religion, freedom of association, and freedom from discrimination."
kwlincoln 2 years ago
The ACLU are VERY selective on who's liberties are being violated. They are NOT for all us "Americans". When was the last time they came to the aid of any Christian issue? They're coming to the aid of the Muslims all over the place. The ACLU is anti-Christian pure and simple. They have no credibility on any issue and it is our of our faults for not standing against them harder than we have. I think Christians have an obligation to God to fight ACLU at every level. Just don't know how?
kwlincoln 2 years ago 4
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kwlincoln, the ACLU defended Jerry Fallwell's right to incorporate his church, as just one example of many. (you could Google the facts, it's all precedent) The ACLU is not anti-christian, they are an equal opportunity pain in the arse. The right of respect in death and in memorial should be the issue; the intent of the memorial matters more than the symbol it employs.
ktkaufmann 2 years ago
SO many men and women died to give some jerk in Oregon the right to be "offended" by this cross. I have the right to be offended by his actions. This is America-we speak english, we worship GOD and we honor our VETS. the aclu can go to 7734
cleocatramom 2 years ago 2
We are a coutry for the people and by the people. All people. What's next for Liberals? Will churches, mosques, etc. start "offending" them because of a displayed icon, or simply the "shape" of the building? I'm offended by people who don't bathe reguarly, especially in a crowded area. Should we have a Federal law requiring daily bathing so I don't get offended and put "dirty" people in jail?
Barbaraf334 2 years ago 2
It's simple. As natives, welcome those who wish to come and bring with them a positive and respectful attitude. Allow them thier faith. Enjoy thier offerings.
As newcomers, feel safe but DO NOT expect the status quo to alter. You have come for the fruits. Share in them but respect the culture and the faith. Even if you do not wish to practise it.
Is that not more than fair. It's actually something Christ himself may have been ok with. He believed in live and let live. Leave the cross
MrRussell75 2 years ago 2
In Australia, where I live, we have had similar issues.
Recently a crucifix was removed from a chapel in a Sydney hospital in the name of political correctness.
I was delighted to see a local Muslim community leader speaking out on national television AGAINST this stupidity.
His words were to the effect that as a Muslim living in a Christian nation, he would expect to see, and certainly not be offended by seeing a Christian symbol of faith in such a place.
A public hospital chapel.
MrRussell75 2 years ago 3
when you go to their website that they post at the end of the video there is a Petition you can sign everyone. Go sign it
IreneNY2 2 years ago 2
I want to post how sad this makes me and how sad it is what America is turning into regardless of how the citizens feel. We love our country and respect our VETS, why can't our government do the same. Why are they hell bent on being anti everything patriotic.. Oh that's right we have a false President calling the shots now.
IreneNY2 2 years ago
One man can do this, WHY?
This is unbelievable, not just in america do people believe in GOD all over the WORLD we have CRISTIANS and we are the majority, how come we can't take the none believers to court and say" we don't like that they don't pray and we want them to pray and put crosses up "? We need to try that and see if the court tells them they have to do that! GOD BLESS ALL THE VETERANS AND OUR MILITARY!!!!!!
hauntedspit 2 years ago
This is yet another out right attack on our Lord Jesus. But a day is some aclu that you will have to answer for what you have done. Every Knee will bow and Ever tongue will confess.
mtnmanquin 2 years ago 2
This is sickening. Inch by inch, they are squelching us, beating us down to the point of apathy. May the spirit that guided our forfathers again rise and perpetuate the forces of common sense, decency and good over evil. may thier enduring love of country,at any cost, instill in us the fortitude to again, rise to the cause of justice and the truths of human nature as so brilliantyly conveyed in our Declaration of Independence.
Dougwrench 2 years ago 2
We've worked so hard not to offend "New Americans" that we have forgotten the roots of America. A cross, as a memorial on governent land. Our country has many memorials dedicated to those who have made it possible for America to exist. It seems like people have forgotten that America is a Christian based country. A country that allows all people, from all countries and religious beliefs to be citizens. I hate seeing the core beliefs being erased.
bolincoln1 2 years ago 3
if you dont like to see the cross stay out of the desert you pussy
clamper1855 2 years ago 2
What is wrong with this picture? Why have we become a nation of cry babies. You don't like the cross? Take a different route. Live and let live. Our Vets deserve a personal monument. I bet someone in the area would donate a tiny piece of land to put the cross on.
lbarsue 2 years ago
Drive out there with a bucket of white paint. If a white cross was too appear upon their plywood box overnight ? Are they going too place gaurds on it ? 5 minutes work.
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With all due respect to VETS past, present and future and from a position of which I consider myself a Christian, the cross was wrongly placed in the first place. I do however agree that it should remain there. Know this, it is this very separation and founding American ideal that allows me to practice "Freedom of Religion." The very same American ideal that allows me to have my "Freedom of Thought and Speech."
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paulabaile 2 years ago
How do you call yourself a Christian, when the cross represents the Savior whom you are supposed to be serving. Do you confess in Jesus Christ in the flesh? YES! OR NO!
jamesblue13 2 years ago
But remember it works both ways. We who are Christians have that same right. But if you really look they are only attacks us.
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The thing that no one mentions is that this cross is on federal land and the law suit started when a member of another religion wanted to put their symbol alongside it and it wasn't allowed by the government. The Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution prohibits this sort of thing.
My personal opinion is that the vets that sacrificed for our country, in part, did their job to protect the Constitution, and this flies in the face of it. Christians don't get a monopoly on expression.
CLAMBERITE 2 years ago
Obviously Christians don't get a monopoly on expression, if the ACLU gets thier way, Christians won't get any expression at all.
facusnia 2 years ago 4
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tidbithoney 2 years ago
Why is anyone listening to the court on this??
AmericaLoudNClear 2 years ago 3
Why is anyone listening to this judge? That cover needs to be removed and I am not even a Christian.
The judge needs removal too.
AmericaLoudNClear 2 years ago 5
Seems to me if they are successful in removing this cross, they are going to have to remove them all from Arlington Cemetary!
ljcintx 2 years ago 2
This is rediculous and I hope they're wrong about the guy in Oregon being Roman Catholic. But with 54 % of Roman Catholics voting for Obama, he very well could be. This is just typical liberalisim and ACLU shenanigans.
ronhmason 2 years ago
Let me state simply that no TRUE Roman Catholic would EVER do what this supposed "Catholic" is doing. I am a devout Roman Catholic. It is wrong to call yourself a Roman Catholic and do something this absolutely heartless. My heart goes out to all the soldiers, past, present and future, you have my deepest respect, thank you for what you do!! You are in my prayers.
1chadmicheal 2 years ago 3
This memorial cross is no different than the ones at all national cemeteries through the free world. Most people in the US have never taken the time to look at the back side of a one dollar bill. Every US Navy ship fly a church pennent above the US Flag during church services on sunday.
THE ACLU has out-lived their usefullness.
swatrson9 2 years ago
If this ridiculous behavior doesn't stop here, on earth, it will be judged on our journey to sit with our Father, Creator, God, be it how ever you refer to Him. It is our constitutional right, as it is written in tribute to our freedom to worship God, that we are able to give thanks and praise to those who have and are yet, fighting for our freedom to do just that. The separation of church and state is written in the term that the government bears no right to advise us of our religious beliefs.
winesong98 2 years ago
The only offense here is that WE THE PEOPLE allow our government dictate what is and isn't sacred based on some jerkoff in Oregon who MIGHT drive out to the desert and MIGHT see this hallowed place and MIGHT get offended? FUCK HIM! Take the plywood off that cross and break it up into clubs and send some of the VFW members to his door and ask him if he still has a problem with a Veterans Memorial that gave him the opportunity to be such an asshole!
MalcolmTodd1966 2 years ago 2
So, some guy in Oregon, MIGHT ride by there and get offended???........Tell him to stay home, or close his Friggin eyes if he doesn't like it!!......Geeez...you have Got to be kidding me...
aks39 2 years ago
We seem to allow ACLU to do what they think is right, and not pay respect to our VETS. Why should we take this abuse from a bunch that has no Patriotic feelings for our country. Lets get rid of them and the hell with "Political Correctness".
God bless our servicemen and women past and present.
camarillojohn1 2 years ago 2
Someone living close by the covered cross, please take a paint brush and paint a cross onto the plywood.
MRMAJORCO 2 years ago 3
I think someone who lives close. Should take down the plywood and build a coffin for the jurk that is bitching. BET HE"S NOT A VET!! Dha!
CobraKing47 2 years ago
Post the monument in congress to be a sacred place of healing and if need be have the armed forces stand guard over it.
CobraKing47 2 years ago
Phil, Watch the Appeals Court if you want but,,,,,most ALL Courts in our Great Country is run by EVIL People. Don't think so? Let's see thry took God out of school, the Ten Commandments can not be Displayed. Heck why not just send an Invite to the Devil. This Country was Founded on God, not the Courts, Not Judges, definately not Politics. Get Politics out and let "We the people" back in. What is so upsetting about a moment of Silence any where?
vietna467 2 years ago
The least we the living can do is to respect the sacrifices of the soldiers of the past and in so doing respect the tributes due to them and much more. This tribute is the very least we can do for the sacrifices of life given in defense of Freedom less we forget that freedom is not free, it is bought by American lives of the brave soldiers of then and now. Honor our Fallen Hero's and leave the Cross Tribute there. They deserve the tribute as we do the freedom they gave us.
alsharon2007 2 years ago
Watching this video made me very sad and extremely angry at the far left socialist communists who are the ACLU! I think it's time for every American who cares about his or her country to step up and fight against these EVIL people! They have done way too much damage already! I really believe that if these people and those who support them in the courts and the federal government are left to continue their EVIL ways without a fight, then our Great Country Is Doomed! GOD HELP US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Phlazgon 2 years ago
The covering of the Mojave cross offends me!! Too many of my dear friends made the ultimate sacrifice so we can enjoy our freedom. Many others, including myself, answered our country's call to preserve that freedom. I will NOTallow the American Communist Liberals Union to deny my right to view the Mojave cross. There are things that make me mad and then there are things that make me fighting mad. This despicable, cowardly action makes me fighting mad! LEAVE THE CROSS ALONE!!!!!......... :(
marpaul82 2 years ago 2
the price of freedom is blood.........do you KNOW what i mean
earseyesnose 2 years ago 2
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Our veterans deserve the respect that each and every one of them did for our country, our liberty and our freedom! This breaks my heart and also gives me little faith in "OUR" government. That cross is not just a memorial. It stands for much more than that. This injustice needs more media attention. I find it sad that there have been so few views of this video. I am going to join this fight for our veterans, for our current soldiers and for our future soldiers! I will stand up! Will you?
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nomiles 2 years ago
That cross stands for our freedom. Freedom that was earned from our veterans. Freedom that is still being fought over today. LEAVE THE CROSS ALONE. We need to be fighting to tear down the ACLU.
hideez815 2 years ago 4
Thanks Jim for sending this too me. I will be watching the appeals court. This is ridiculous! This is a first amendment issue. LEAVE THE CROSS ALONE!
phillipmarch22 2 years ago 3