God knows men need His help understanding His Word. That is His position, as He is the best Teacher, not man. If you can understand your "Bible' fresh out of the gate, then it must not be His Bible. If you ask God for help with the whole heart then you may obtain a sure foundation to build upon.
"Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge." Proverbs 23:12
We have to shew an earnest desire before God to learn His Word. And sinning against Him gets us nowhere.
The KJV is the main attraction in English after true repentance for sure. Until then your only kidding yourself anyhow. BTW, the King James is based upon the Majority Text for the New Testament portion of the Scriptures. Just don't neglect the other 3/4 of the Holy Bible. Proverbs chapter 1 is a great place to begin a very profitable investigation. Yet, that's only after repentance from sin too. There are always tons of commentaries available to sift through, if you enjoy the company of mockers.
The reason certain verses were removed is because they were added in later manuscripts, but are entirely missing in older, more reliable (and complete) manuscripts that predate those in the "Textus Receptus." It is these later manuscripts that "add to" the Word of God, and it is these newer, added-to, adulterated manuscripts that comprise the KJV. That said, the KJV is still my personal favorite and the bedrock standard. I just wanted to share some facts that many are ignorant of.
The KJV is the result of plenty of edits and deletions. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were lucky to make it into the Bible. Guess how many gospels were voted - yes voted - out. At least 16. How many authors did the Bible have? About 40. Are any of them verified in any other works outside of the Bible? Few. David perhaps.
If the Bible is a democratic work that was assembled in such a way by committees of men, how can it possibly be the word of God?
Some gospel accounts were written by uninspired people. They were most likely Gnostics or pagans. What is in my Bible is what God intended to be kept throughout the ages. The Gospel of Thomas, for example, is Gnostic material. They don't believe that Jesus is the Christ. The same kind of people wrote the Sinaiticus, and it's now an extremely popular manuscript among the new Bible versions.
@DinoDude65 I suppose everyone who's edited, added, and deleted content would say that it wasn't perfectly written in the first place.
It appears that the maker of this video thinks King James must have been more important than Jesus himself to have edited this supposed 'God's word' into a work of perfection. Too bad it's still full of fallacies, circular logic, and logical dead ends. But to a good Christian, that makes for a good book.
The KJV is still the very best English translation even after 400 years. The Authorized version will be in an everlasting remembrance, and the only one that I will ever read.
Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
I only use and love the KJV language I find it easier to memorise but to say its Gods perfect word for mankind is rather odd. Most bible beliveing churches would say quote " that the Bible as originally given is in its entirety the Word of God, without error and fully reliable in fact and doctrine. Which version of the KJV is the perfect word given that the first versions contained the apochrypha. The foreward to the KJV says its come from other translations any way.
King James was just another scumbag English king. Henry 8th was just another Brit king and you protestant assholes seem to follow him in numbers. (Catholic lights). If there was such a thing as god we'd all know it.
@somethingdiffereable I only pray that you do not finish your course in such a state of mind. The opportunity given men to learn God's word, is a great benefit scorned by far too many. Undervalued indeed.
"And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." (John 12:47-48)
KKK baby. If your white your right and if your not your not. Wow you religious zealots make the world a wonderful place to live. I'm gonna catch a flight to Tehran Iran tommorow. Religion is such a wonderful thing.
Not sure where you are getting your information from, or what foundation your faith can be based upon. "Air jesus" has never saved one soul, but I hear that he is a great entertainer.
400 year anniversary of the mark of the beast. 66 books in your hand authorized by King James born 6/1566, 6th of Scotland, an image of God's word used to control you instead of being controlled by the living word of God, Jesus through the Holy Spirit.
Your faith will fail. THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST What are you doing out here casting stumblingblocks before potential believers? Don't worry! Most "Christians" today do not read the Scripture anyhow. They, like you, put the Word of God far away and call on "Jesus". Just like in the days of old, they forget about the clean Scriptures and call on dirty Baal. Just know that you cannot be washed clean without abiding in His Word. And if you get away from it, then you need to get back to it in short order. The Right One.
@ChacierLogos So you say the bible is the word of God? And we all know that satan can use the bible.
So if the bible is the word of God and satan can use the bible, then Jesus' church is controlled by satan.
Do you think Jesus would build His church upon something satan can use?
Jesus said; Upon this rock I build My church. He built it upon the Spirit of God, the Holy Ghost. If you believe the bible is the word of God then you are controlled by satan. Jesus controls by the Holy Ghost.
@palermo131 The bible is not God's word. Gen 3:1 is history.. A lot of things went on there that you could only know through the spirit. John was in the Spirit and got the Revelation. Peter fell into a trance and had a vision. Paul fell into a trance and saw Jesus. Holy Ghost people have visions, dreams, revelations and hear the voice of Christ. The word of God is Spirit. THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST.
@The3in1trinity The Holy Scriptures were under the old covenant, God wrote on tablets of stone with His finger, but no one could keep them. So God sent Jesus with the new covenant. Now we have the forgiveness of sins the resurrection and the Holy Ghost. You had none of these under the old covenant. This only would I learn of you, received you the spirit by the works of the law or by the hearing of faith? Without the spirit of Christ you are none of His. THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST.
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST The Old + New Testament r God's Word. U r 4getting that God at different times instructed the Jewish ppl 2 write down things such as how the Temple was 2 b built. There were also the Laws etc. EPHESIANS 2:8-9. ROMANS 8:3-9. HEBREWS 1:1-14. 2TIMOTHY 3:1-17. COMMON SENSE would indicate that the Old Testament had 2 b written down 2 preserve what God spoke through the Prophets, including regarding Jesus + the New Testament 2 record what Jesus said+did+ future prophecies/events...
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST The Scriptures r there 4 our benefit + given by God. God the Holy Spirit is the 1 who guides the followers of Jesus in2 all truth. God the Holy Spirit can speak directly 2 those He indwells + also through the Inspired Word of God. God the Holy Spirit is the 1 who inspired the Bible. U still didn't give a valid reason as 2 y God's Word is the mark of the Beast. Clearly, Sinful man doesn't negate the truth of God's Word or it's necessity 2 all mankind...
@The3in1trinity You seem to get all your information from the scriptures. So you know that we worship God in the Spirit. Please explain to us all how you do the following; Acts 10:10 Peter fell into a trance and saw a vision. Acts 22:17 Paul fell into a trance and saw Jesus. Rev 1:10 John was in the Spirit and got the revelation.
I want to get in a trance and see Jesus, like Paul did. Please tell me how to do this??
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 1PETER 5:8. Satan can fool the unwary who r ignorant of God's Word. Satan doesn't have ANY control over those who understand God's Word + APPLY IT IN THEIR LIVES. Satan will make a meal of u if u don't get understanding of God's Word. U r clearly misunderstanding Scripture. 2TIMOTHY 3:1-17. HEBREWS 1:1-14. In case u r not aware, Jesus quoted from the Old Testament many, many times, often 2 point out how He was fulfilling Prophecy...
@The3in1trinity Satan has tricked your mind. Try for a moment to live in the now and not in history. Look around you at what bible worshipers have done. The catholic church has molested thousands of children and paid over $3 billion in fines, they hide behind the bible. Jimmy Swaggart a whoremonger assembly of God. Ted Haggard the leader of 30 million evangelicals. Mormons at the mountain meadows massacre. David Koresh 7th day adventist. Jim Jones, Hitler, etc. ALL bible worshipers. JUST THINK!
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST What makes u think i don't live in the present? U assume that Hitler was a "Bible worshipper" as u put it. The reality is that if u did somw research u would find that Hitler used the church + put many in the church in2 concentration camps. What human beings or institutions do doesn't in any way detract from the Inspired Word of God the Bible. Humans r fallible. God's Word is infallible. God isn't fooled by outward appearances but He sees the heart of those who r His...
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST Continued. We wouldn't know that Jesus had promised God the Holy Spirit if we didn't have a record of it. We wouldn't know about Grace (the free gift of God) except we had a record of it. We wouldn't know about the Anti-Christ, anti-Christ's, false doctrines except God had caused it 2 b written down. We wouldn't b able 2 warn ppl about the coming wrath of God 2 those that deny Him except we have been told. ROMANS 10:15-17. Sinful humans don't stop God's Word being God's Word!
@The3in1trinity Continued.Have u read anywhere that Hitler ever claimed 2b a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ? Even if he had claimed 2b a Christian he clearly didn't practice it. We r known by our fruits. If we didn't have the New Testament we wouldn't know that Jesus had died 4 our sins. We wouldn't b able 2give a reason 4the hope wee have as Christians. We wouldn't have REVELATION or the recorded history of the early church or Jesus telling the Disciples 2 preach throughout the whole world.
Praise the LORD tomorrow is the 400 year anniversary. Praise his name in Psalms it says Psa 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Psa 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. So he has preserved them for literally hundreds of years. Again praise the LORD GOD me and you
You have probably heard the joke about the bigoted Protestant fundamentalist who said, "If the King James Version was good enough for the apostles, it is good enough for me!" People sometimes forget that the KJV was published in 1611 A.D.
For centuries prior to 1611, Latin was the only scholarly language in Europe. The Latin Vulgate translation of Jerome, based upon a corrupt Alexandrian Text, was the official text of the powerful Roman Catholic Church.
The King James translators did a marvelous job with the materials they had. While this article is necessary to point out the KJV errors, it should be noted that the errors, omissions and additions made by the RSV, NIV, and other modern translations are much, much WORSE!
@Iesous238 It depends on what is meant by an "error". The KJ Bible is consistent with the Dead Sea Scrolls. There will always b problems translating 1 language in2 another. Considering the fact that there wasn't the knowledge of how 2 translate some words from Hebrew in2 English with their strongest meaning + yet remain true 2 the Word of God in the overall message is wonderful. They also didn't have access 2 the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1611. I am happy 2 continue reading the KJ Bible...
Wonderful and Lovely! The King James Bible will grow with you, as you are obedient, and ready to recieve it. There is no other book on this planet that can even compare to the Book of God. [][][][][][][][]------xX
Of course he won't mention that the King James Bible is still copyrighted in England, Northern Ireland and Wales or that the British Crown owns a perpetual copyright patent on the KJ Bible. Public domain aside, if the British Crown demanded that it's copyright law be honored the KJ would have to be copyrighted here in the U.S. as well.
I know many of the chritisisms leveled at the KJB are due to bias and poor scholarship, The Bible is the oly hope for man, so one ought to pray that it is at least mostly right (Although I believe it is without error)
The Acts 2:4-11 Says they spake in toungues, some thought they were drunk (they just heard gobldegook) the rest heard them speak each in his own native toungue. This was a miracle, the holy spirit teaching us as we read the bible is a miricle also, and for anyone to become a born Again Christian is also a miricle.
@SiriusMined Well If the eternal word of God can be translated from a spiritual language in heaven into a mental verbal and then written form of Hebrew Greek and Aramaic, then it would be possible for God By His Spirit to have his words translated into English for the perfect English Bible, (Mt 5:18 'jot or one tittle' shall in no wise pass..) But since a Jots and titles are specific to Hebrew, I think the KJV is Just the Best Translation of the Inspired and preserved Words of God. God Bless
The problem is, if you are a literalist, then the Bible is NOT perfect, and this can easily be demonstrated. Now if you are not a literalist, that's a different discussion.
This martlut crazy person below, is mixing 20th century lies with halftruths to prove some kind of point. I have no idea why he has so much animosity towards the KJV, a Textus Receptus translation that's survived for 400 years. Hm.. Maybe he is effeminate? Only a permanently lost perverted mind can accuse a person who lived centuries ago of sodomy, pedophilia and bestiality, when that person authorized a book that condemns the same. That's the stuff of the Talmud, not of the Bible.
@joroma77 sorry The Kings subjects called him queen James he is also buried next to his Gay Lover and numerous accounts of his bestiality have also been recorded by first hand witnesses, Yeah. yeah. your view has been the minority viewpoint for years now. Your grasp of the KJV is breathtaking,
You betcha!!!! I have compared, and theKJV1611 is the Bible, which I look to.for Gods words Yes, the others are easier to read, but nothing easy is worthwhile to gain..people which read other Bibles are missing much of Gods words, And they are missing the point! The map of other Bibles will get them lost, because they lack all the "gas stations" and sooner or later the ride won't go any further.. Without right directions, one will never get to their final destination! God Bless you!
No other book can even compare to the Majestic King James Bible. 2011 is the 400 year celebration since the first one was published. The KJV is the most printed Book in the history of the world. It is reported that there are over 1 billion copies strong, and counting. Wow!!! You gotta love a winner. Thee Winner :)
I'm a Christian but its suspicious all this KJV stuff because 777 are the the divine numbers from the"Book of Law"by Aliester Crowley.You can see that the movie"Book of Eli"its just an anagram of "Book of Lie"refering to the KJV in the movie, so Book of Eli/Lie/Law its refering to Aliester Crowley's book & if you see the roots of Gail Riplinger(KJV defender),i mean she studied on the illuminati oxford university,so i think KJV is like Thelema Crowley's teachings disguised with a Christian cover
Also, is Norman Pickering an "Alexandrian Apostate" for stating, "The nature of language does not permit a 'perfect' translation — the semantic area of words differs between languages so that there is seldom complete overlap. A 'perfect' translation of John 3:16 from Greek into English is impossible, for we have no perfect equivalent for "agapao" [translated "loved" in John. 3:16]."?
Was J. Frank Norris a "Bible-corrector" for saying that the correct rendering of John 3:5 should be "born of water and the Spirit," and for saying that "repent and turn" in Acts 26:20 should be "repent, even turn"?
Was Charles Haddon Spurgeon a "Bible-corrector" for saying that Romans 8:24 should be rendered "saved in hope," instead of the KJV's "saved by hope"? [Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Vol 27, 1881, page 485 — see more Spurgeon KJV comments in What is "KJV-Onlyism?", his & many others' views in the article, "Quotes on Bible Translations."]
Was Charles Haddon Spurgeon a "Bible-corrector" for saying that Romans 8:24 should be rendered "saved in hope," instead of the KJV's "saved by hope"? [Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Vol 27, 1881, page 485 — see more Spurgeon KJV comments in What is "KJV-Onlyism?", his & many others' views in the article, "Quotes on Bible Translations."]
I have a lot more tolerance for someone who sins daily, and admits they are a sinner and can't save themselves and needs Jesus Christ than I have for someone who spends their day professing to be a Christian but DARES TO ATTACK THE PRESERVED WORDS OF GOD.
History has it that James was also a great coward. On January 7, 1591, the king was in Edinburgh and emerged from the toll booth. A retinue followed that included the Duke of Lennox and Lord Hume. They fell into an argument with the laird of Logie and pulled their swords. James looked behind, saw the steel flashing, and fled into the nearest refuge which turned out to be a skinner's booth. There to his shame, he "fouled his breeches in fear."
King James I, among his many other faults, preferred young boys to adult women. He was a flaming homosexual. His activities in that regard have been recorded in numerous books and public records; so much so, that there is no room for debate on the subject. The King was queer.
The very people who use the King James Bible today would be the first ones to throw such a deviant out of the congregations.
From the time of Henry VIII on, an Englishman had three choices:
1. The Anglican Church
2. Silence
3. The rack, burning at the stake, being drawn and quartered, or some other form of persuasion.
The hapless individuals who fell into the hands of the government for holding religious opinions of their own were simply punished according to the royal whim.
@martlut One Day the LORD of GLORY is going to ask you why you mocked some of his faithful followers and SLANDERED His preserved word in the King James Bible.
King James did not encourage a translation of the Bible in order to enlighten the common people: his sole intent was to deny them the marginal notes of the Geneva Bible. The marginal notes of the Geneva version were what made it so popular with the common people.
@martlut oh look, it's a Bible corrector. You are a deceived and deluded person who was likely taught in some faith destroying seminary that you needed to turn to the Greek for an answer. By the way you failed to mention which Greek you were referring too, as there are several. Don't try and pull a fast one on the people, be honest.....the truth is, you don't believe God was capable of keeping his promise and preserving his word. How weak and pathetic do you think he is?
@warriorspikes51 Ge when was English first used again for the Bible tell me did the apostles and Christ speak English. All this time I thought they Spoke Greek
@martlut you believe that only the original autographs were inspired......yet those haven't been available for CENTURIES. You profess that the word of God perished from the earth and he didn't bother to keep it for the people. but rather force them to believe in some ancient manuscripts they have never seen and can never hold. Don't you dare try and destroy anyone's faith in The King James Bible. Slandering God's Book is one of the stupidest things a Christian can do.
Is the Holy Spirit an "it" according to John 1:32; Romans 8:16, 26; and 1 Peter 1:11 in the KJV? [Again — you may not go the Greek for any "light" if you are a KJV-Onlyite!]
Did Jesus teach a way for men to be "worshiped" according to Luke 14:10 in the KJV, contradicting the first commandment and what He said in Luke 4: 8? [Remember — you may not go the Greek for any "light" if you are a KJV-Onlyite!]
If one considers King James himself as inspired by God, the public record must be considered carefully in that judgment.
That record shows King James was a known homosexual, practiced bestiality, proved himself to be a great coward, and was a sadist who personally supervised the torture of those caught up in the witchcraft trials of Scotland
@martlut this type of nonsense spewing out of your mouth looks to the common result from attending faith destroying seminaries filled with "godly" scholars who believe their intellectual enough to correct God on his own speech.
Does the singular "oath's," occurring in every KJV at Matthew 14: 9 and Mark 6:26, "correct" every Textus Receptus Greek which has the plural ("oaths") by the post-1611 publishers, misplacing the apostrophe?
Is 2 Corinthians 6:11-13 in the KJV understood or make any sense to the modern-English KJV reader? — "O ye Corinthians, our mouth is open unto you, our heart is enlarged. Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels. Now for a recompense in the same,
(I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged." As clearly understood from the New International Version [NIV] — "We have spoken freely to you, Corinthians, and opened wide our hearts to you. We are not withholding our affection from you, but you are withholding yours from us. As a fair exchange — I speak as to my children — open wide your hearts also."
@martlut CURRENT dictionaries say gay means "bright or showy". Homosexual comes in 5th place. As for the rest of James 2, there's a lot of words in NIV that have radically different meanings from the ones in KJV. One example: KJV reads "oppress", NIV reads "exploit". First definition of "exploit" in dictionaries: "to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account". As if it were a crime to own a business with employees! The NIV is vague, confusing and dangerous.
Would you contend that God waited until a king named "James" sat on the throne of England before perfectly preserving His Word in English, and would you think well of an "Epistle Dedicatory" that praises this king as "most dread Sovereign . . .Your Majesty's Royal Person . . ." — IF the historical FACT was revealed to you that King James was a practicing homosexual all of his life? [documentation — Antonia Fraser --
King James VI of Scotland, I of England" Knopf Publ./1975/pgs. 36-37, 123 || Caroline Bingham -- "The Making of a King" Doubleday Publ./1969/pgs. 128-129, 197-198 || Otto J. Scott -- "James I" Mason-Charter Publ./1976/pgs. 108, 111, 120, 194, 200, 224, 311, 353, 382 || David H. Wilson -- "King James VI & I" Oxford Publ./1956/pgs. 36, 99-101, 336-337, 383-386, 395 || plus several encyclopedias]
Since the revisions of the KJV from 1613-1850 made (in addition to changes in punctuation, capitalization, and spelling) many hundreds of changes in words, word order, possessives, singulars for plurals, articles, pronouns, conjunctions, prepositions, entire phrases, and the addition and deletion of words — would you say the KJV was "verbally inerrant" in 1611, 1629, 1638, 1644, 1664, 1701, 1744, 1762, 1769, or 1850?
@martlut the fishing is coming from an empty hole. Now, the heretics in Israel are finding old teeth that will alter human evolution. :)) you people never cease to amaze me. The sad thing is you have to live a lie and keep it up. It destroys your soul little by little and you don't even know it. You live a lie; you are already dead. You only sink into the darkness more and more with each lie you indwell.
@martlut partly wrong. I know that Jesus is God incarnate, born of the virgin Mary and the Messiah who will come back after your hero comes to power for a short time. THEN HE AND HIS FOLLOWERS WILL BE DESTROYED.
@martlut.....beware that God will mess with the mind of anyone who thinks they are smart enough or have the authority to correct God's own Book or slander people that God choose to carry out his will.
@warriorspikes51 you should have told that to Queen James and his drunken translator or have the authority to correct God's own Book or slander people that God choose to carry out his will.
Since most "KJV-Onlyites" believe the KJV is the inerrant and inspired "scripture" [2 Peter 1:20], and 2 Peter 1:21 says that "the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost," would you not therefore reason thus — "For the King James Version came not in 1611 by the will of man: but holy men of God translated as they were moved by the Holy Ghost"?
Unlike that Gay King James who burnt everyone at the Stake and made it illegal for anyone to read any other Bible except his own and made it a crime to read any other bible.
If neither the KJV nor any other one version were absolutely inerrant, could a lost sinner still be "born again" by the "incorruptible word of God"? [1 Peter 1:23]
@martlut Not taking any bait, I'm planning all of this. You are just a deceiver using reverse psychology and simple minded rhetoric to overcome truth. You just dig your hole deeper. Origen set up the first translation providing the root for Jerome to write the Satanic Latin Vulgate.
@martlut "used the Vulgate to translate it ROFL" Wrong again. The KJV came from the Textus Receptus and the latin Vulgate came from the Alexandria Version. Origen did the corrupting of the true scrollls. I hope you are just lying..if your Biblical knowledge is limited to this you are a sad case.
If the KJV is "God's infallible and preserved word to the English-speaking people," did the "English-speaking people" have "the word of God" from 1525-1604?
What copy or translations of "the word of God," used by the Reformers, was absolutely infallible and inerrant? [their main Bibles are well-known and copies still exist].
Did the KJV translators mislead their readers by saying that their New Testament was "translated out of the original Greek"? [title page of KJV N.T.] Were they "liars" for claiming to have "the original Greek" to translate from?
most of the pastors, ministers, Bishops, evangelicals are members of the Masons, CNP, CFR or mickey mouse club Word Faith, SDA, Jeh. Wit. Mormon, or Scientology Mafia. as they all are part church mafia. the Mega churches are all alike the big screen, a friggin Rock Band, satanic from the word go, some luke warm church service and then the guilt fan is brought out "give me da money", 10% which is not in the new testament but these liars make the flock turn it over.
FOLKS as you can see, the heretics here have nothing but questions showing exactly what they know which is virtually nothing. They are trying to hide the King James Truth by tricks and fabrications which actually confirms the power of the king James Bible. You never see this for the Koran, the NEW AGE Nazi dogma, the NIV, or any other version. ONLY THE KING JAMES. They are more than obvious. :)) slam dunk.
@martlut lol...its just like bait. You people are predictable and easy to manipulate. I laid the bait, waited until your rantings and disinformaiton methods were finished then prodded you back on. :)) lol....this is too much entertainment. Okay, back to my work and deleting your worthless comments and then back on later this PM. Or, I'll start one myself and have you little twirps searching for me here and there and off and on....:) see you later sucker.
@martlut no, my pagan friend reversing the strategy is too late. You have fallen into a trap of you own mind and lost your focus.However in vistiing you channel from being curious I see that you are filled with the Sprit like those fruitcakes you follow as "slain in the spirit". You and the rest especially that slain part, rolling around on the floor is in fact demonic possession and they don't know it. The Word faith TBN clergy are all frauds to include Billy Graham, Shueller, Copeland et al
@tgambill Was Tyndale's [1525], or Coverdale's [1535], or Matthew's [1537], or the Great [1539], or the Geneva [1560] . . . English Bible absolutely infallible?
, almost without reprieve for the entire two millennium. Jews, Romans, Vandals, Heretics, Islam, Protestants, the French Revolution, Modernists, Hitler, Communists, and many others, one group after another, have tried and failed, and yet the Church still stands. It is the oldest, and the largest, and the longest lasting institution on earth
@tgambill Well, clearly, the Catholic Church is still here after almost 2000 years. It has certainly been tried by many to overthrow it from without and from within
@martlut Wrong.the Catholic heresy started with your or their first pope called the Summus Pontifex, CONSTANTINE in 325 AD.He worshipped Baal and set up the necessary structures at the council of Nicaea and there one of the most evil institutions had its first Pope.Peter was never even in Rome, was married Mark 9:30 and God chose Peter to go the Jews Galatians 2:8.Popes have been worshipping Saturn behind the cloak of the Sun God ever since.So now back to delete your waste and see you later.
@tgambill too bad their were many Popes before Constantine boy wasn't that what Jesus and the apostles mission to go out to the Pagans and convert them they did a great job with Constantine stopping the Murdering of the Christians and becoming a christian himself . ROFL
@martlut Wrong again...there were church fathers not popes. He never became a Christian. Have you no self respect or just poor researching skill. He declared himself to be a Christian after defeating Maxentius around 312 AD. Constantine unlike Rat-zinger, was a smart politician. He issued the Edict of Milan to offer total religious freedom. He baptised his heathern soldiers and fooled everyone. To this day....:))
@martlut it was all for the love of power, control and evil intent to deceive. Well, you should know that. bye for now. see you later. Hey, mart-tuit you have about 10+ more postings to hide what I wrote. I'll wait and just come back. I sure hope you aren't one of the holy rollers or drunken holy ghost revival or whatever...that would answer much about your actions.
@tgambill Would you contend that the KJV translator, Richard Thomson, who worked on Genesis-Kings in the Westminster group, was "led by God in translating" even though he was an alcoholic that "drank his fill daily" throughout the work? [Gustavus S. Paine -- "The Men Behind the KJV" Baker Book House/1979/pgs. 40, 69]
Is the KJV "scripture" ? Is IT "given by inspiration of God"? [2 Tim. 3:16]
WHEN was the KJV "given by inspiration of God" — 1611, or any of the KJV major/minor revisions in 1613, 1629, 1638, 1644, 1664, 1701, 1744, 1762, 1769, and the last one in 1850?
Must we possess a perfectly flawless bible translation in order to call it "the word of God"? If so, how do we know "it" is perfect? If not, why do some "limit" "the word of God" to only ONE "17th Century English" translation? Where was "the word of God" prior to 1611? Did our Pilgrim Fathers have "the word of God" when they brought the GENEVA BIBLE translation with them to North America?
Why do KJV only advocates believe that the English of the KJV is clearer and more precise than the original Greek language manuscripts? Why should Bible students throw out their Greek dictionaries and buy an "archaic English" dictionary?
Are there not word pictures in the original Greek words that the English cannot easily convey? (Jas 2:19 "tremble"; Greek: PHRISSO, indicates to be rough, to bristle. is a powerful word picture of how the demons are in such terror that their skin is rough with goose pimples. Also differences between "agape" and "phileo" love words.)
@martlut King James being gay is a lie by the low life masonic agenda and the Satanic Jesuits. He certainly wasnt gay, had a son named Prince Henry and sent him letters encouraging study of the Bible. You people really amaze me. You could lie and deceive your own mother if she was on her dying bed. you people have no moral ground, no self respect and your spirits are dead to the truth. How you people live with yourselves is really beyond me.
@tgambill When there is a difference between the KJV English and the TR Greek, why do you believe that the Greek was wrong and the KJV English is correct?
@tgambill In defending the KJV's use of archaic language, do you really think it is a good thing that a person must use an Early Modern English dictionary just to understand the Bible in casual reading?
Here is a challenging question, think before you answer. There are no actual manuscripts from the Apostles themselves. We only have 'copies of copies' and so ultimately must have faith that whatever we read was what the Apostles originally wrote. HOW do we ultimately know we have a faithful translation, when their manuscripts don't exist? And please, don't just say 'the Holy Spirit' -give me a real answer.
@MrLamontSanford The actual manuscripts were passed on from John of Patmos to whomever, real Christians. They kept them in Antioch and made copies of copies and being based in Antioch sent missionaries to spread the gospel. We ultimately know that they preserved the word of God. In fact the creator of the Universe certainly can preserve his word and the Holy Spirit guided the translations and safety. they finally went to the Alps to hide, {Waldenses}
@tgambill And you've made yourself believe this Jack Chick version? And what gave these so-called 'other' Christians some sort of infallability, when it is always you guys who demand no such thing as infallability exists in any man? Furthermore, you do look daffy aligning yourself with Waldensians. You do know they believed/ practiced things utterly alien and contrary to orthodox Christian beliefs, right?
@MrLamontSanford they took care of the scriptures and my research goes way beyond Chick. Never less than three souces, their organizations, links etc. The true word was protected.
Ok, so let me get this straight: God allowed people to have only false bibles for 16 centuries; then, in 1609, the Holy Spirit FINALLY inspired 47 men in London to make the FIRST and ONLY true bible -under the supervision of a tyrant king. But since then, other fraud bibles have abounded, and many people SINCE then also have been deceived. Correct?
@MrLamontSanford Furthermore, it is outrageous to claim infallability for popes, church fathers, etc. but it is acceptable to say the 47 KJV translators were infallible. In addition, the men who lived in the first three centuries of Christianity, men who in some cases were disciples of the Apostles (Polycarp, Ignatius) and in turn their followers, got it all wrong; but James I in 1609 FINALLY got the REAL Gospel messgae correct -correct?
God knows men need His help understanding His Word. That is His position, as He is the best Teacher, not man. If you can understand your "Bible' fresh out of the gate, then it must not be His Bible. If you ask God for help with the whole heart then you may obtain a sure foundation to build upon.
"Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge." Proverbs 23:12
We have to shew an earnest desire before God to learn His Word. And sinning against Him gets us nowhere.
Tsijon 1 month ago
The KJV is the main attraction in English after true repentance for sure. Until then your only kidding yourself anyhow. BTW, the King James is based upon the Majority Text for the New Testament portion of the Scriptures. Just don't neglect the other 3/4 of the Holy Bible. Proverbs chapter 1 is a great place to begin a very profitable investigation. Yet, that's only after repentance from sin too. There are always tons of commentaries available to sift through, if you enjoy the company of mockers.
Paucus1 1 month ago
The reason certain verses were removed is because they were added in later manuscripts, but are entirely missing in older, more reliable (and complete) manuscripts that predate those in the "Textus Receptus." It is these later manuscripts that "add to" the Word of God, and it is these newer, added-to, adulterated manuscripts that comprise the KJV. That said, the KJV is still my personal favorite and the bedrock standard. I just wanted to share some facts that many are ignorant of.
TheHorta 1 month ago
what bible did they use before the KJV?
schpoogie 1 month ago
Does anyone know why KJV believers do not follow the majority text?
preachinshawn 1 month ago
The KJV is the result of plenty of edits and deletions. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were lucky to make it into the Bible. Guess how many gospels were voted - yes voted - out. At least 16. How many authors did the Bible have? About 40. Are any of them verified in any other works outside of the Bible? Few. David perhaps.
If the Bible is a democratic work that was assembled in such a way by committees of men, how can it possibly be the word of God?
ChipArgyle 2 months ago
@ChipArgyle
Some gospel accounts were written by uninspired people. They were most likely Gnostics or pagans. What is in my Bible is what God intended to be kept throughout the ages. The Gospel of Thomas, for example, is Gnostic material. They don't believe that Jesus is the Christ. The same kind of people wrote the Sinaiticus, and it's now an extremely popular manuscript among the new Bible versions.
DinoDude65 2 months ago
@DinoDude65 If it was truly a divine text, it would have been perfectly written in the first place.
ChipArgyle 2 months ago
@ChipArgyle
What says that it wasn't?
DinoDude65 2 months ago
@DinoDude65 I suppose everyone who's edited, added, and deleted content would say that it wasn't perfectly written in the first place.
It appears that the maker of this video thinks King James must have been more important than Jesus himself to have edited this supposed 'God's word' into a work of perfection. Too bad it's still full of fallacies, circular logic, and logical dead ends. But to a good Christian, that makes for a good book.
ChipArgyle 2 months ago
The KJV is still the very best English translation even after 400 years. The Authorized version will be in an everlasting remembrance, and the only one that I will ever read.
Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
What an Awesome Book!!! :)
ExcappareZ 6 months ago
I only use and love the KJV language I find it easier to memorise but to say its Gods perfect word for mankind is rather odd. Most bible beliveing churches would say quote " that the Bible as originally given is in its entirety the Word of God, without error and fully reliable in fact and doctrine. Which version of the KJV is the perfect word given that the first versions contained the apochrypha. The foreward to the KJV says its come from other translations any way.
fish5133 6 months ago
"You seem to get all your information from the scriptures." If this is indeed true. Lucky you!
ChacierLogos 6 months ago
the true version of the bible is the MACARTHUR STUDY BIBLE , and also the KOINE GREEK ORIGINA VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT
xhemexx 6 months ago
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bibleintroductions 7 months ago
King James was just another scumbag English king. Henry 8th was just another Brit king and you protestant assholes seem to follow him in numbers. (Catholic lights). If there was such a thing as god we'd all know it.
somethingdiffereable 7 months ago
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@somethingdiffereable would you care to elaborate without the filthy language? It may be interesting to see how far you can go with this.
ChacierLogos 7 months ago
@somethingdiffereable UM KING JAMES WAS BEHEADED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DO SOME RESEARCH
lordtruthbehold 7 months ago
I bellieve without any shadow of a doubt that all religious texts are pure bulllshit.
somethingdiffereable 8 months ago
@somethingdiffereable I only pray that you do not finish your course in such a state of mind. The opportunity given men to learn God's word, is a great benefit scorned by far too many. Undervalued indeed.
"And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." (John 12:47-48)
ChacierLogos 8 months ago
KKK baby. If your white your right and if your not your not. Wow you religious zealots make the world a wonderful place to live. I'm gonna catch a flight to Tehran Iran tommorow. Religion is such a wonderful thing.
somethingdiffereable 8 months ago
Is the king james bible the one with the unicorns in it?
somethingdiffereable 8 months ago
@somethingdiffereable Yup.
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=7BNsjsbJLaM
palermo131 8 months ago
Not sure where you are getting your information from, or what foundation your faith can be based upon. "Air jesus" has never saved one soul, but I hear that he is a great entertainer.
ChacierLogos 8 months ago
400 year anniversary of the mark of the beast. 66 books in your hand authorized by King James born 6/1566, 6th of Scotland, an image of God's word used to control you instead of being controlled by the living word of God, Jesus through the Holy Spirit.
Your faith will fail. THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 9 months ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST What are you doing out here casting stumblingblocks before potential believers? Don't worry! Most "Christians" today do not read the Scripture anyhow. They, like you, put the Word of God far away and call on "Jesus". Just like in the days of old, they forget about the clean Scriptures and call on dirty Baal. Just know that you cannot be washed clean without abiding in His Word. And if you get away from it, then you need to get back to it in short order. The Right One.
ChacierLogos 8 months ago
@ChacierLogos So you say the bible is the word of God? And we all know that satan can use the bible.
So if the bible is the word of God and satan can use the bible, then Jesus' church is controlled by satan.
Do you think Jesus would build His church upon something satan can use?
Jesus said; Upon this rock I build My church. He built it upon the Spirit of God, the Holy Ghost. If you believe the bible is the word of God then you are controlled by satan. Jesus controls by the Holy Ghost.
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 8 months ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST Satan has been twisting God's word and taking out of context from the beginning. Gen. 3:1
palermo131 8 months ago
@palermo131 The bible is not God's word. Gen 3:1 is history.. A lot of things went on there that you could only know through the spirit. John was in the Spirit and got the Revelation. Peter fell into a trance and had a vision. Paul fell into a trance and saw Jesus. Holy Ghost people have visions, dreams, revelations and hear the voice of Christ. The word of God is Spirit. THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST.
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 8 months ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 2TIMOTHY 3:1-17. HEBREWS 1:1-14...
The3in1trinity 7 months ago
@The3in1trinity The Holy Scriptures were under the old covenant, God wrote on tablets of stone with His finger, but no one could keep them. So God sent Jesus with the new covenant. Now we have the forgiveness of sins the resurrection and the Holy Ghost. You had none of these under the old covenant. This only would I learn of you, received you the spirit by the works of the law or by the hearing of faith? Without the spirit of Christ you are none of His. THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST.
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 7 months ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST The Old + New Testament r God's Word. U r 4getting that God at different times instructed the Jewish ppl 2 write down things such as how the Temple was 2 b built. There were also the Laws etc. EPHESIANS 2:8-9. ROMANS 8:3-9. HEBREWS 1:1-14. 2TIMOTHY 3:1-17. COMMON SENSE would indicate that the Old Testament had 2 b written down 2 preserve what God spoke through the Prophets, including regarding Jesus + the New Testament 2 record what Jesus said+did+ future prophecies/events...
The3in1trinity 6 months ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST The Scriptures r there 4 our benefit + given by God. God the Holy Spirit is the 1 who guides the followers of Jesus in2 all truth. God the Holy Spirit can speak directly 2 those He indwells + also through the Inspired Word of God. God the Holy Spirit is the 1 who inspired the Bible. U still didn't give a valid reason as 2 y God's Word is the mark of the Beast. Clearly, Sinful man doesn't negate the truth of God's Word or it's necessity 2 all mankind...
The3in1trinity 6 months ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST ...Then John was told 2 write it down...so we would know about it!!! - as a warning = as an encoragement...
The3in1trinity 6 months ago
@The3in1trinity You seem to get all your information from the scriptures. So you know that we worship God in the Spirit. Please explain to us all how you do the following; Acts 10:10 Peter fell into a trance and saw a vision. Acts 22:17 Paul fell into a trance and saw Jesus. Rev 1:10 John was in the Spirit and got the revelation.
I want to get in a trance and see Jesus, like Paul did. Please tell me how to do this??
THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 6 months ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 1PETER 5:8. Satan can fool the unwary who r ignorant of God's Word. Satan doesn't have ANY control over those who understand God's Word + APPLY IT IN THEIR LIVES. Satan will make a meal of u if u don't get understanding of God's Word. U r clearly misunderstanding Scripture. 2TIMOTHY 3:1-17. HEBREWS 1:1-14. In case u r not aware, Jesus quoted from the Old Testament many, many times, often 2 point out how He was fulfilling Prophecy...
The3in1trinity 7 months ago
@The3in1trinity Satan has tricked your mind. Try for a moment to live in the now and not in history. Look around you at what bible worshipers have done. The catholic church has molested thousands of children and paid over $3 billion in fines, they hide behind the bible. Jimmy Swaggart a whoremonger assembly of God. Ted Haggard the leader of 30 million evangelicals. Mormons at the mountain meadows massacre. David Koresh 7th day adventist. Jim Jones, Hitler, etc. ALL bible worshipers. JUST THINK!
BIBLEisMARKofBEAST 7 months ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST What makes u think i don't live in the present? U assume that Hitler was a "Bible worshipper" as u put it. The reality is that if u did somw research u would find that Hitler used the church + put many in the church in2 concentration camps. What human beings or institutions do doesn't in any way detract from the Inspired Word of God the Bible. Humans r fallible. God's Word is infallible. God isn't fooled by outward appearances but He sees the heart of those who r His...
The3in1trinity 6 months ago
@BIBLEisMARKofBEAST Continued. We wouldn't know that Jesus had promised God the Holy Spirit if we didn't have a record of it. We wouldn't know about Grace (the free gift of God) except we had a record of it. We wouldn't know about the Anti-Christ, anti-Christ's, false doctrines except God had caused it 2 b written down. We wouldn't b able 2 warn ppl about the coming wrath of God 2 those that deny Him except we have been told. ROMANS 10:15-17. Sinful humans don't stop God's Word being God's Word!
The3in1trinity 6 months ago
@The3in1trinity Continued.Have u read anywhere that Hitler ever claimed 2b a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ? Even if he had claimed 2b a Christian he clearly didn't practice it. We r known by our fruits. If we didn't have the New Testament we wouldn't know that Jesus had died 4 our sins. We wouldn't b able 2give a reason 4the hope wee have as Christians. We wouldn't have REVELATION or the recorded history of the early church or Jesus telling the Disciples 2 preach throughout the whole world.
The3in1trinity 6 months ago
Praise the LORD tomorrow is the 400 year anniversary. Praise his name in Psalms it says Psa 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Psa 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. So he has preserved them for literally hundreds of years. Again praise the LORD GOD me and you
kybilly2000 9 months ago
You know it's a good thing when a wicked man despises it. What a lovely Book!
ChacierLogos 9 months ago
NOT SO! 3000 ERRORS IN THE KJV! FACT!
w w w . biblestudy . org/basicart/what-are-the-errors-in-king-james-version-bible.html
Iesous238 9 months ago
ERRORS in the King James Version Bible?
You have probably heard the joke about the bigoted Protestant fundamentalist who said, "If the King James Version was good enough for the apostles, it is good enough for me!" People sometimes forget that the KJV was published in 1611 A.D.
For centuries prior to 1611, Latin was the only scholarly language in Europe. The Latin Vulgate translation of Jerome, based upon a corrupt Alexandrian Text, was the official text of the powerful Roman Catholic Church.
Iesous238 9 months ago
The King James translators did a marvelous job with the materials they had. While this article is necessary to point out the KJV errors, it should be noted that the errors, omissions and additions made by the RSV, NIV, and other modern translations are much, much WORSE!
Iesous238 9 months ago
@Iesous238 It depends on what is meant by an "error". The KJ Bible is consistent with the Dead Sea Scrolls. There will always b problems translating 1 language in2 another. Considering the fact that there wasn't the knowledge of how 2 translate some words from Hebrew in2 English with their strongest meaning + yet remain true 2 the Word of God in the overall message is wonderful. They also didn't have access 2 the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1611. I am happy 2 continue reading the KJ Bible...
The3in1trinity 6 months ago
Salvation is vastly overrated.
ffairlane57 10 months ago
Parallels prove the King James Version is the only Authorized word of God.
See the Aimed At America 2 video for examples on youtube.
vincent15641 10 months ago
Wonderful and Lovely! The King James Bible will grow with you, as you are obedient, and ready to recieve it. There is no other book on this planet that can even compare to the Book of God. [][][][][][][][]------xX
ChacierLogos 11 months ago
its funny how people can come here and call the word of God childish non-sennse ..
wow a lot of lost souls out here..
athelston 11 months ago
Of course he won't mention that the King James Bible is still copyrighted in England, Northern Ireland and Wales or that the British Crown owns a perpetual copyright patent on the KJ Bible. Public domain aside, if the British Crown demanded that it's copyright law be honored the KJ would have to be copyrighted here in the U.S. as well.
spockelf 11 months ago
It makes no difference how many versions there are.
They are all utter bollox - childish nonsense.
tellnet 11 months ago
I know many of the chritisisms leveled at the KJB are due to bias and poor scholarship, The Bible is the oly hope for man, so one ought to pray that it is at least mostly right (Although I believe it is without error)
SirWelshrab 11 months ago
The Acts 2:4-11 Says they spake in toungues, some thought they were drunk (they just heard gobldegook) the rest heard them speak each in his own native toungue. This was a miracle, the holy spirit teaching us as we read the bible is a miricle also, and for anyone to become a born Again Christian is also a miricle.
SirWelshrab 11 months ago
Uh, the scrolls that the KJV was translated from weren't in Enlgish, so it is impossible for it to be the "exact words of God"
SiriusMined 11 months ago
@SiriusMined Well If the eternal word of God can be translated from a spiritual language in heaven into a mental verbal and then written form of Hebrew Greek and Aramaic, then it would be possible for God By His Spirit to have his words translated into English for the perfect English Bible, (Mt 5:18 'jot or one tittle' shall in no wise pass..) But since a Jots and titles are specific to Hebrew, I think the KJV is Just the Best Translation of the Inspired and preserved Words of God. God Bless
SirWelshrab 11 months ago
@SirWelshrab
The problem is, if you are a literalist, then the Bible is NOT perfect, and this can easily be demonstrated. Now if you are not a literalist, that's a different discussion.
SiriusMined 11 months ago
This martlut crazy person below, is mixing 20th century lies with halftruths to prove some kind of point. I have no idea why he has so much animosity towards the KJV, a Textus Receptus translation that's survived for 400 years. Hm.. Maybe he is effeminate? Only a permanently lost perverted mind can accuse a person who lived centuries ago of sodomy, pedophilia and bestiality, when that person authorized a book that condemns the same. That's the stuff of the Talmud, not of the Bible.
joroma77 11 months ago
@joroma77 sorry The Kings subjects called him queen James he is also buried next to his Gay Lover and numerous accounts of his bestiality have also been recorded by first hand witnesses, Yeah. yeah. your view has been the minority viewpoint for years now. Your grasp of the KJV is breathtaking,
martlut 11 months ago
You betcha!!!! I have compared, and theKJV1611 is the Bible, which I look to.for Gods words Yes, the others are easier to read, but nothing easy is worthwhile to gain..people which read other Bibles are missing much of Gods words, And they are missing the point! The map of other Bibles will get them lost, because they lack all the "gas stations" and sooner or later the ride won't go any further.. Without right directions, one will never get to their final destination! God Bless you!
bssmart1118 1 year ago
Ah! My Bible has no verses missing, for it has the true word of God, for it is the King James Bible, praise God !
Awesome video! Thank you!!
RainhadoCanto4 1 year ago
No other book can even compare to the Majestic King James Bible. 2011 is the 400 year celebration since the first one was published. The KJV is the most printed Book in the history of the world. It is reported that there are over 1 billion copies strong, and counting. Wow!!! You gotta love a winner. Thee Winner :)
ChacierLogos 1 year ago
Amen
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
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I'm a Christian but its suspicious all this KJV stuff because 777 are the the divine numbers from the"Book of Law"by Aliester Crowley.You can see that the movie"Book of Eli"its just an anagram of "Book of Lie"refering to the KJV in the movie, so Book of Eli/Lie/Law its refering to Aliester Crowley's book & if you see the roots of Gail Riplinger(KJV defender),i mean she studied on the illuminati oxford university,so i think KJV is like Thelema Crowley's teachings disguised with a Christian cover
WatchThisVideos 1 year ago
how about how catholic popes kill and eat dead babies at 'holy mass'? when will catholics stop lying about this?
MegaFaithalone 1 year ago
does the maker of this video realise how much the king james bible leaves out when compared to older versions? silly silly silly
CetraTJ 1 year ago
Also, is Norman Pickering an "Alexandrian Apostate" for stating, "The nature of language does not permit a 'perfect' translation — the semantic area of words differs between languages so that there is seldom complete overlap. A 'perfect' translation of John 3:16 from Greek into English is impossible, for we have no perfect equivalent for "agapao" [translated "loved" in John. 3:16]."?
martlut 1 year ago
Was J. Frank Norris a "Bible-corrector" for saying that the correct rendering of John 3:5 should be "born of water and the Spirit," and for saying that "repent and turn" in Acts 26:20 should be "repent, even turn"?
martlut 1 year ago
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Was Charles Haddon Spurgeon a "Bible-corrector" for saying that Romans 8:24 should be rendered "saved in hope," instead of the KJV's "saved by hope"? [Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Vol 27, 1881, page 485 — see more Spurgeon KJV comments in What is "KJV-Onlyism?", his & many others' views in the article, "Quotes on Bible Translations."]
martlut 1 year ago
Was Charles Haddon Spurgeon a "Bible-corrector" for saying that Romans 8:24 should be rendered "saved in hope," instead of the KJV's "saved by hope"? [Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Vol 27, 1881, page 485 — see more Spurgeon KJV comments in What is "KJV-Onlyism?", his & many others' views in the article, "Quotes on Bible Translations."]
martlut 1 year ago
I have a lot more tolerance for someone who sins daily, and admits they are a sinner and can't save themselves and needs Jesus Christ than I have for someone who spends their day professing to be a Christian but DARES TO ATTACK THE PRESERVED WORDS OF GOD.
warriorspikes51 1 year ago
The most interesting Book on this planet. I keep finding new things. :) The King James. Wow!!!
ExcappareZ 1 year ago
History has it that James was also a great coward. On January 7, 1591, the king was in Edinburgh and emerged from the toll booth. A retinue followed that included the Duke of Lennox and Lord Hume. They fell into an argument with the laird of Logie and pulled their swords. James looked behind, saw the steel flashing, and fled into the nearest refuge which turned out to be a skinner's booth. There to his shame, he "fouled his breeches in fear."
martlut 1 year ago
King James I, among his many other faults, preferred young boys to adult women. He was a flaming homosexual. His activities in that regard have been recorded in numerous books and public records; so much so, that there is no room for debate on the subject. The King was queer.
The very people who use the King James Bible today would be the first ones to throw such a deviant out of the congregations.
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut go build a sand castle and sell some girl scout cookies, The King was no such person.
warriorspikes51 1 year ago
@martlut Yeah, that makes sense considering the book he authorized condemned sodomites.... (sarcasm)
joroma77 11 months ago
From the time of Henry VIII on, an Englishman had three choices:
1. The Anglican Church
2. Silence
3. The rack, burning at the stake, being drawn and quartered, or some other form of persuasion.
The hapless individuals who fell into the hands of the government for holding religious opinions of their own were simply punished according to the royal whim.
martlut 1 year ago
The King James Bible was, and is for all practical purposes, a government publication
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut attacking the King James Bible is a grave error my friend.
warriorspikes51 1 year ago
@warriorspikes51 exposing the KJV isnt error I'm reproofing it and correcting it as you fundie clowns like to say
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut One Day the LORD of GLORY is going to ask you why you mocked some of his faithful followers and SLANDERED His preserved word in the King James Bible.
warriorspikes51 1 year ago
King James did not encourage a translation of the Bible in order to enlighten the common people: his sole intent was to deny them the marginal notes of the Geneva Bible. The marginal notes of the Geneva version were what made it so popular with the common people.
martlut 1 year ago
Did Jesus command for a girl to be given "meat" to eat according to Luke 8:55 in the KJV? [or, "of them that sit at meat with thee." at Luke 14:10]
martlut 1 year ago
Does Luke 23:56 support a "Friday" crucifixion in the KJV? [No "day" here in Greek]
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut oh look, it's a Bible corrector. You are a deceived and deluded person who was likely taught in some faith destroying seminary that you needed to turn to the Greek for an answer. By the way you failed to mention which Greek you were referring too, as there are several. Don't try and pull a fast one on the people, be honest.....the truth is, you don't believe God was capable of keeping his promise and preserving his word. How weak and pathetic do you think he is?
warriorspikes51 1 year ago
@warriorspikes51 Ge when was English first used again for the Bible tell me did the apostles and Christ speak English. All this time I thought they Spoke Greek
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut you believe that only the original autographs were inspired......yet those haven't been available for CENTURIES. You profess that the word of God perished from the earth and he didn't bother to keep it for the people. but rather force them to believe in some ancient manuscripts they have never seen and can never hold. Don't you dare try and destroy anyone's faith in The King James Bible. Slandering God's Book is one of the stupidest things a Christian can do.
warriorspikes51 1 year ago
@warriorspikes51 sorry the KJV onlyites believe they have the only word of God and it was written in English . ROFL
martlut 1 year ago
Is the Holy Spirit an "it" according to John 1:32; Romans 8:16, 26; and 1 Peter 1:11 in the KJV? [Again — you may not go the Greek for any "light" if you are a KJV-Onlyite!]
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut tell me, if my friend just got saved and asks me for a Bible, where can I find one to give him?
warriorspikes51 1 year ago
@warriorspikes51 How did he get saved without knowing the word of God first. Gee nothing like putting the cart before the horse
martlut 1 year ago
Did Jesus teach a way for men to be "worshiped" according to Luke 14:10 in the KJV, contradicting the first commandment and what He said in Luke 4: 8? [Remember — you may not go the Greek for any "light" if you are a KJV-Onlyite!]
martlut 1 year ago
wow you dont know what you believe now first he wasn't god now he is god I guess an hour from now he will be a spirit baby
martlut 1 year ago
If one considers King James himself as inspired by God, the public record must be considered carefully in that judgment.
That record shows King James was a known homosexual, practiced bestiality, proved himself to be a great coward, and was a sadist who personally supervised the torture of those caught up in the witchcraft trials of Scotland
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut this type of nonsense spewing out of your mouth looks to the common result from attending faith destroying seminaries filled with "godly" scholars who believe their intellectual enough to correct God on his own speech.
warriorspikes51 1 year ago
Does the singular "oath's," occurring in every KJV at Matthew 14: 9 and Mark 6:26, "correct" every Textus Receptus Greek which has the plural ("oaths") by the post-1611 publishers, misplacing the apostrophe?
martlut 1 year ago
Is 2 Corinthians 6:11-13 in the KJV understood or make any sense to the modern-English KJV reader? — "O ye Corinthians, our mouth is open unto you, our heart is enlarged. Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels. Now for a recompense in the same,
martlut 1 year ago
(I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged." As clearly understood from the New International Version [NIV] — "We have spoken freely to you, Corinthians, and opened wide our hearts to you. We are not withholding our affection from you, but you are withholding yours from us. As a fair exchange — I speak as to my children — open wide your hearts also."
martlut 1 year ago
your right i keep catching the same stupid fish over and over ROFL
martlut 1 year ago
Is it possible that the rendition "gay clothing," in the KJV at James 2: 3, could give the wrong impression to the modern-English KJV reader?
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut gay had a completely different meaning until the liberal thieves took the word and changed it for their own agenda.
warriorspikes51 1 year ago
@martlut CURRENT dictionaries say gay means "bright or showy". Homosexual comes in 5th place. As for the rest of James 2, there's a lot of words in NIV that have radically different meanings from the ones in KJV. One example: KJV reads "oppress", NIV reads "exploit". First definition of "exploit" in dictionaries: "to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account". As if it were a crime to own a business with employees! The NIV is vague, confusing and dangerous.
joroma77 11 months ago
Would you contend that God waited until a king named "James" sat on the throne of England before perfectly preserving His Word in English, and would you think well of an "Epistle Dedicatory" that praises this king as "most dread Sovereign . . .Your Majesty's Royal Person . . ." — IF the historical FACT was revealed to you that King James was a practicing homosexual all of his life? [documentation — Antonia Fraser --
martlut 1 year ago
King James VI of Scotland, I of England" Knopf Publ./1975/pgs. 36-37, 123 || Caroline Bingham -- "The Making of a King" Doubleday Publ./1969/pgs. 128-129, 197-198 || Otto J. Scott -- "James I" Mason-Charter Publ./1976/pgs. 108, 111, 120, 194, 200, 224, 311, 353, 382 || David H. Wilson -- "King James VI & I" Oxford Publ./1956/pgs. 36, 99-101, 336-337, 383-386, 395 || plus several encyclopedias]
martlut 1 year ago
Since the revisions of the KJV from 1613-1850 made (in addition to changes in punctuation, capitalization, and spelling) many hundreds of changes in words, word order, possessives, singulars for plurals, articles, pronouns, conjunctions, prepositions, entire phrases, and the addition and deletion of words — would you say the KJV was "verbally inerrant" in 1611, 1629, 1638, 1644, 1664, 1701, 1744, 1762, 1769, or 1850?
martlut 1 year ago
hell I dont even need bait any more the fishing is great
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut the fishing is coming from an empty hole. Now, the heretics in Israel are finding old teeth that will alter human evolution. :)) you people never cease to amaze me. The sad thing is you have to live a lie and keep it up. It destroys your soul little by little and you don't even know it. You live a lie; you are already dead. You only sink into the darkness more and more with each lie you indwell.
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill Did dead people "wake up" in the morning according to Isaiah 37:36 in the KJV?
Was "Baptist" John's last name according to Matthew 14: 8 and Luke 7:20 in the KJV?
martlut 1 year ago
@tgambill did you know the heretics in Israeli also believe as you that Jesus isn't God ROFL
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut partly wrong. I know that Jesus is God incarnate, born of the virgin Mary and the Messiah who will come back after your hero comes to power for a short time. THEN HE AND HIS FOLLOWERS WILL BE DESTROYED.
tgambill 1 year ago
@martlut.....beware that God will mess with the mind of anyone who thinks they are smart enough or have the authority to correct God's own Book or slander people that God choose to carry out his will.
warriorspikes51 1 year ago
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@warriorspikes51 you should have told that to Queen James and his drunken translator or have the authority to correct God's own Book or slander people that God choose to carry out his will.
martlut 1 year ago
Who publishes the "inerrant KJV"?
martlut 1 year ago
Which reading is the verbally (word-for-word) inerrant scripture — "whom ye" [Cambridge KJV's] or, "whom he" [Oxford KJV's] at Jeremiah 34:16?
martlut 1 year ago
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Since most "KJV-Onlyites" believe the KJV is the inerrant and inspired "scripture" [2 Peter 1:20], and 2 Peter 1:21 says that "the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost," would you not therefore reason thus — "For the King James Version came not in 1611 by the will of man: but holy men of God translated as they were moved by the Holy Ghost"?
martlut 1 year ago
Unlike that Gay King James who burnt everyone at the Stake and made it illegal for anyone to read any other Bible except his own and made it a crime to read any other bible.
martlut 1 year ago
If the KJV can "correct" the inspired originals, did the Hebrew and Greek originally "breathed out by God" need correction or improvement?
martlut 1 year ago
If neither the KJV nor any other one version were absolutely inerrant, could a lost sinner still be "born again" by the "incorruptible word of God"? [1 Peter 1:23]
martlut 1 year ago
you took the bait again boy what a clod
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut Not taking any bait, I'm planning all of this. You are just a deceiver using reverse psychology and simple minded rhetoric to overcome truth. You just dig your hole deeper. Origen set up the first translation providing the root for Jerome to write the Satanic Latin Vulgate.
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill sorry you need to read your history it wasn't Origen ROFL
martlut 1 year ago
@tgambill boy the KJV must be satanic as well since they used the Vulgate to translate it ROFL
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut "used the Vulgate to translate it ROFL" Wrong again. The KJV came from the Textus Receptus and the latin Vulgate came from the Alexandria Version. Origen did the corrupting of the true scrollls. I hope you are just lying..if your Biblical knowledge is limited to this you are a sad case.
tgambill 1 year ago
If the KJV is "God's infallible and preserved word to the English-speaking people," did the "English-speaking people" have "the word of God" from 1525-1604?
martlut 1 year ago
What copy or translations of "the word of God," used by the Reformers, was absolutely infallible and inerrant? [their main Bibles are well-known and copies still exist].
martlut 1 year ago
Did the great Protestant Reformation (1517-1603) take place without "the word of God"?
martlut 1 year ago
Was "the original Greek" lost after 1611?
martlut 1 year ago
Did the KJV translators mislead their readers by saying that their New Testament was "translated out of the original Greek"? [title page of KJV N.T.] Were they "liars" for claiming to have "the original Greek" to translate from?
martlut 1 year ago
Did God lose the words of the originals when the "autographs" were destroyed?
martlut 1 year ago
In what language did Jesus Christ [not Peter Ruckman and others] teach that the Old Testament would be preserved forever according to Matthew 5:18?
martlut 1 year ago
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most of the pastors, ministers, Bishops, evangelicals are members of the Masons, CNP, CFR or mickey mouse club Word Faith, SDA, Jeh. Wit. Mormon, or Scientology Mafia. as they all are part church mafia. the Mega churches are all alike the big screen, a friggin Rock Band, satanic from the word go, some luke warm church service and then the guilt fan is brought out "give me da money", 10% which is not in the new testament but these liars make the flock turn it over.
tgambill 1 year ago
FOLKS as you can see, the heretics here have nothing but questions showing exactly what they know which is virtually nothing. They are trying to hide the King James Truth by tricks and fabrications which actually confirms the power of the king James Bible. You never see this for the Koran, the NEW AGE Nazi dogma, the NIV, or any other version. ONLY THE KING JAMES. They are more than obvious. :)) slam dunk.
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill This clown can be summed up as thus What a blustery , pretentious , aloof , insolent , audacious , bossy , caviler ,cheeky , overbearing Cocky , cold, conceited , contemptuous ,domineering , egotistical , haughty , high and mighty, high handed, Imperious , lordly, pompous, proud , self important , smug , snooty , autocratic , snotty , supercilious superior , uppity ,Dull uninformed shockingly stupid buffoons
Vain know it all …..
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut lol...its just like bait. You people are predictable and easy to manipulate. I laid the bait, waited until your rantings and disinformaiton methods were finished then prodded you back on. :)) lol....this is too much entertainment. Okay, back to my work and deleting your worthless comments and then back on later this PM. Or, I'll start one myself and have you little twirps searching for me here and there and off and on....:) see you later sucker.
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill seems like your the one that sat back and took the bait moron
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut not at all pagan.....go back to worshipping your cube and Saturn. oh, coming unraveled huh....lol
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill your stupider than I thought taking the bait again well what do you want from a conspiracy theorist with tampons in his ears
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut no, my pagan friend reversing the strategy is too late. You have fallen into a trap of you own mind and lost your focus.However in vistiing you channel from being curious I see that you are filled with the Sprit like those fruitcakes you follow as "slain in the spirit". You and the rest especially that slain part, rolling around on the floor is in fact demonic possession and they don't know it. The Word faith TBN clergy are all frauds to include Billy Graham, Shueller, Copeland et al
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill oh I guess your brand of insanity is the faith to follow when was it made up
martlut 1 year ago
@tgambill Was Tyndale's [1525], or Coverdale's [1535], or Matthew's [1537], or the Great [1539], or the Geneva [1560] . . . English Bible absolutely infallible?
martlut 1 year ago
@tgambill
, almost without reprieve for the entire two millennium. Jews, Romans, Vandals, Heretics, Islam, Protestants, the French Revolution, Modernists, Hitler, Communists, and many others, one group after another, have tried and failed, and yet the Church still stands. It is the oldest, and the largest, and the longest lasting institution on earth
martlut 1 year ago
@tgambill Well, clearly, the Catholic Church is still here after almost 2000 years. It has certainly been tried by many to overthrow it from without and from within
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut Wrong.the Catholic heresy started with your or their first pope called the Summus Pontifex, CONSTANTINE in 325 AD.He worshipped Baal and set up the necessary structures at the council of Nicaea and there one of the most evil institutions had its first Pope.Peter was never even in Rome, was married Mark 9:30 and God chose Peter to go the Jews Galatians 2:8.Popes have been worshipping Saturn behind the cloak of the Sun God ever since.So now back to delete your waste and see you later.
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill too bad their were many Popes before Constantine boy wasn't that what Jesus and the apostles mission to go out to the Pagans and convert them they did a great job with Constantine stopping the Murdering of the Christians and becoming a christian himself . ROFL
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut Wrong again...there were church fathers not popes. He never became a Christian. Have you no self respect or just poor researching skill. He declared himself to be a Christian after defeating Maxentius around 312 AD. Constantine unlike Rat-zinger, was a smart politician. He issued the Edict of Milan to offer total religious freedom. He baptised his heathern soldiers and fooled everyone. To this day....:))
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill Wasn't that nice of Him producing the Edict Of Milan so all could worship as they sort fit
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut it was all for the love of power, control and evil intent to deceive. Well, you should know that. bye for now. see you later. Hey, mart-tuit you have about 10+ more postings to hide what I wrote. I'll wait and just come back. I sure hope you aren't one of the holy rollers or drunken holy ghost revival or whatever...that would answer much about your actions.
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill sorry holy rollers are a fundie thing which includes you
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut Nope, not all the rollers are satanic and very much possessed literally.
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill Would you contend that the KJV translator, Richard Thomson, who worked on Genesis-Kings in the Westminster group, was "led by God in translating" even though he was an alcoholic that "drank his fill daily" throughout the work? [Gustavus S. Paine -- "The Men Behind the KJV" Baker Book House/1979/pgs. 40, 69]
martlut 1 year ago
Is the KJV "scripture" ? Is IT "given by inspiration of God"? [2 Tim. 3:16]
WHEN was the KJV "given by inspiration of God" — 1611, or any of the KJV major/minor revisions in 1613, 1629, 1638, 1644, 1664, 1701, 1744, 1762, 1769, and the last one in 1850?
martlut 1 year ago
Must we possess a perfectly flawless bible translation in order to call it "the word of God"? If so, how do we know "it" is perfect? If not, why do some "limit" "the word of God" to only ONE "17th Century English" translation? Where was "the word of God" prior to 1611? Did our Pilgrim Fathers have "the word of God" when they brought the GENEVA BIBLE translation with them to North America?
martlut 1 year ago
Oh I see that you boys changed your tactics, clever. But also very very stupid. Your own words condemn you.
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill Were the KJV translators "liars" for saying that "the very meanest [poorest] translation" is still "the word of God"?
martlut 1 year ago
@tgambill Do you believe that the Hebrew and Greek used for the KJV are "the word of God"?
martlut 1 year ago
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@tgambill Do you believe that the Hebrew and Greek underlying the KJV can "correct" the English?
martlut 1 year ago
@tgambill Is ANY translation "inspired"? Is the KJV an "inspired translation"?
martlut 1 year ago
Why do KJV only advocates believe that the English of the KJV is clearer and more precise than the original Greek language manuscripts? Why should Bible students throw out their Greek dictionaries and buy an "archaic English" dictionary?
martlut 1 year ago
Are there not word pictures in the original Greek words that the English cannot easily convey? (Jas 2:19 "tremble"; Greek: PHRISSO, indicates to be rough, to bristle. is a powerful word picture of how the demons are in such terror that their skin is rough with goose pimples. Also differences between "agape" and "phileo" love words.)
martlut 1 year ago
Did you Know King James was Gay
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut King James being gay is a lie by the low life masonic agenda and the Satanic Jesuits. He certainly wasnt gay, had a son named Prince Henry and sent him letters encouraging study of the Bible. You people really amaze me. You could lie and deceive your own mother if she was on her dying bed. you people have no moral ground, no self respect and your spirits are dead to the truth. How you people live with yourselves is really beyond me.
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill why was King James Buried Next to His Gay Lover
martlut 1 year ago
@tgambill When there is a difference between the KJV English and the TR Greek, why do you believe that the Greek was wrong and the KJV English is correct?
martlut 1 year ago
@tgambill If the KJV-only supporters believe fully in the word-for-word inspiration of the KJV, why would italics be necessary?
martlut 1 year ago
@tgambill In defending the KJV's use of archaic language, do you really think it is a good thing that a person must use an Early Modern English dictionary just to understand the Bible in casual reading?
martlut 1 year ago
Here is a challenging question, think before you answer. There are no actual manuscripts from the Apostles themselves. We only have 'copies of copies' and so ultimately must have faith that whatever we read was what the Apostles originally wrote. HOW do we ultimately know we have a faithful translation, when their manuscripts don't exist? And please, don't just say 'the Holy Spirit' -give me a real answer.
MrLamontSanford 1 year ago
@MrLamontSanford The actual manuscripts were passed on from John of Patmos to whomever, real Christians. They kept them in Antioch and made copies of copies and being based in Antioch sent missionaries to spread the gospel. We ultimately know that they preserved the word of God. In fact the creator of the Universe certainly can preserve his word and the Holy Spirit guided the translations and safety. they finally went to the Alps to hide, {Waldenses}
tgambill 1 year ago
@tgambill And you've made yourself believe this Jack Chick version? And what gave these so-called 'other' Christians some sort of infallability, when it is always you guys who demand no such thing as infallability exists in any man? Furthermore, you do look daffy aligning yourself with Waldensians. You do know they believed/ practiced things utterly alien and contrary to orthodox Christian beliefs, right?
MrLamontSanford 1 year ago
@MrLamontSanford they took care of the scriptures and my research goes way beyond Chick. Never less than three souces, their organizations, links etc. The true word was protected.
tgambill 1 year ago
Ok, so let me get this straight: God allowed people to have only false bibles for 16 centuries; then, in 1609, the Holy Spirit FINALLY inspired 47 men in London to make the FIRST and ONLY true bible -under the supervision of a tyrant king. But since then, other fraud bibles have abounded, and many people SINCE then also have been deceived. Correct?
MrLamontSanford 1 year ago
@MrLamontSanford Furthermore, it is outrageous to claim infallability for popes, church fathers, etc. but it is acceptable to say the 47 KJV translators were infallible. In addition, the men who lived in the first three centuries of Christianity, men who in some cases were disciples of the Apostles (Polycarp, Ignatius) and in turn their followers, got it all wrong; but James I in 1609 FINALLY got the REAL Gospel messgae correct -correct?
MrLamontSanford 1 year ago