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  • He tells the guy to speak up, so the guy yells over the trumpet. He stops him and says that he heard him before, then whispers his response. WTF is wrong with this boy?

  • Share the gospel the way Jesus, Paul and Peter did. Win souls for Christ today! /watch?v=L_XQQyuCHlE

  • wow what an epic fail cameron. these idiots come up with the same "arguments" which have 0 basis. but whatever, it's not worth the effort to argue. natural selection will eventually remove these morons from society.

  • Don't be deceived...you have to stand judgement whether you believe it or not. Watch video "God's Prison" and consider your eternal state.

  • Kirk, you really are scared aren't you. The body language, speaking low, stuttering, rapidly chewing gum, saying"err" alot, looking around as if you're are looking for a way out, failing to keep up with your opponent (incidentally, it's another science called psychology "the scientific and systematic study of behaviour"). This casually clever young lady really has got you on the ropes hasn't she?

  • Kirk Cameron: please go back to acting. Leave the scientific discussion to the scientists, alright?

  • @Casshyr Yeah, but he'll have to stick to lame ass christian movies. He couldn't hack it anymore as a main stream actor because mr. bible thumper felt the need to proselytize to his fellow actors, and basically they got sick of it. Who wants to go to work at any job and get preached at. Kirk will never go back to real acting because he can't keep it in church. Plus you know, as far as movies...cussing, sex, you know anything that makes movies fun.

  • @Newenlightenmentnow His movies are not only lame, they're disgusting and intellectually bankrupt. I was at UCLA today and someone handed me this documentary called "180" which featured Ray Comfort...it made parallels between the Holocaust and abortion. Ray Comfort even identifies as a Jew in the documentary even though he's just preaching his evangelical Christianity bullshit.

  • @jacqueline716 Wow...I didn't know it was that bad. So this jackass compared removing a lump of unconscious cells to the mass murder of 6 million plus conscious human beings who had families that loved them. Disgusting. Were I there, i wouldn't be able to contain my rage. I mean granted one has an argument after the age of viability, but before that...its just a lump of cells. I'd like to send "religious antagonist" in there. (check out his videos on youtube). Its worth it.

  • Kirk Cameron is a douche.

  • Kirk Cameron Believes in Science,I Find That Extremely Hard to Believe Because He's Going Out of His Way to Debunk Every Scientific Theory There is

  • I'm With That Woman Who Said That Science is Based on Evidence,While Religion's Based Upon Faith,Darwin Was a Scientist,no More,no Less

  • That Trumpet's F***ing Annoying

  • I Heard About This on TMZ The Day That They Just Found Out About it,&,The Way That I See it,Kirk Cameron Went Nuts Just Because he Doesn't Have an Open Mind

  • Notice that when Kirk is losing a debate, he talks in whispers.  Also, why is there a trumpet blaring away right next to them? And it sounds like a helicopter landing? I will try and clean up the sund on this video and repost it.

  • @AxeNewkill That would be so awesome!

  • @AxeNewkill I'd imagine that the trumpet in the background was some trumpet player from the music depart playing.

  • Pwnpwnpwn3d. Creationist mind-ruining bastard.

  • We really aught to rethink these weird ideas we have in our society about unfettered freedom of speech, equality, liberty, and equal rights for all. We should rethink these ideas and start putting people like this Kirk Cameron idiot in jail and having them officially declared lesser in value than the average man.

  • omigosh! when was this??

  • @thegreatpinksea Nov. '09.

  • Chameleon on the background was terrific!

  • stupid girl!!!!

  • Yeah, Kirk, Science is trying to push an agenda to disprove God. That's somehow the driving force behind every scientist. When everyone accepts Atheism, the scientists will all hang up their lab coats & goggles & say "Mission accomplished! I guess we're done here as I certainly don't feel like advancing the knowledge of mankind or technology anymore! Cure your own diseases & make your own smaller and faster computers from now on, you godless bastards!" Christians are the only ones waging war.

  • Chameleon by Herbie Hancock in the background at the beginning.

  • Cameron getting taught!

  • @777truthteller her words make more sense than yours dont be so quick to call someone a fool

  • kirk cameron sucks and so did growing pains. who gives a rats ass about jesus he needs to take his religious beliefs and shove them up his ass theres more proof that darwin was right than there is the bible is. people dont start crusades burn witches or suicide bomb market places in the name of athiesm and evolution but maybe it should start at kc's house with him and rc and anyone who listens to them in it

  • Science has no interest in proving or disproving gods.

    Creationists are there to prove their own god, and try to use science. Science~ the same thing they were always trying to get rid of, because it didn't mesh with their book.

    It's like using

  • she politley tore him a new view

  • Damn there's some annoying noise in this video....

  • I feel sorry for Kirk. No matter what he says they deny it. Theres no point of talking to them

  • @tlthamesfoc no kirk is a douche who denies observation he should shut his jesus fgreak mouth and keep his worthless ass out of schools - if you want kids praying in school send them to private religious school not public school. i am a tax paying athiest and i dont want my kids having to hear anything about god when they should be getting a real education

  • I wish this was audible!!

  • I do too. Someone transcribed it on PZ Meyers' blog, though.

  • @nationofjoe Do you have the link to the transcription on PZ's blog?

  • @lowOIL, The genocides in Turkey were done by the Ottoman Empire, which was an Islamic empire, NOT godless.

  • Poor Kirk. He had so much going for him and then he just squandered it away for Jesus.

    =P

  • @MetalTimesInfinity no he didnt growing pains sucked ass

  • Thanks for the upload. But is that video conversion software putting that nasty mark on it? Or is it just the video editing software? Either way, use Windows Movie Maker. Free and easy to use.

  • Yeah this was the only software that would edit the type of file the video was in. I do use WMM, or at least I will next time I record stuff. I srsly hate that freaking watermark.

  • Funny how he persists in saying speciation can't happen when scientists have *observed* it happening.

    What a tool.

  • OMG. That lady ROCKS. Smart and beautiful.

  • I'd be kind of curious as to what Kirk Cameron feels about Christian believers like myself who believe/accept Evolution. He sets up a false dichotomy. I wish he'd knock this stuff off.

  • @LowOIL

    Religion in one form or another thrives everywhere. Germany was highly a Christian nation led by a man raised Catholic.

    Also the United states a highly Christian nation, nuked two innocent cities killing thousands in one of the most horrible single human made disasters in history.

    Dying by radiation poisoning is inhumane punishment by any standard.

    We are a god fearing nation of greedy bastards and murderers. How many innocent civillians have we killed in our War on terror?

  • Darwin confessed, "To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."

  • Why don't you read my interaction with someone on the other video who explained to me what quote mining is and how Darwin actually said more...Read the interchange where he explains to me the truth behind this quote and where I can see and read the entirety of Darwin's thought process on this matter. See how I accepted his advice to go check out what was actually said. Also read how I followed up after getting the full scope of Darwin's thought by thanking the person who gave me the info.

  • I just posted something I came across on a website...I did not make any arguments for or against any of this. I had never read the quote before and I thought it was interesting so I posted the quote...That being said you have a lot of nerve calling me dishonest. I'm amazed at the behavior of people like you who are brazenly aggressive for really no reason. I believe you deduced the wrong thing, jumped to conclusions, then displayed extreme cowardice by attacking me in virtual land. Get a grip...

  • And for the record you disingenuous rascal:

    Psalm 14.1 says... The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.

    Looks like your quite adept at this quote mining stuff yourself old chap...

  • You are a fool...

  • @bukojack

    The irony of Psalm 14.1 is that the agnostic atheist uses reason logic and actual reality to base his beliefs off of, and the theist is using mythology to argue against reality.

    The fool is actually the one using a book of fiction to call another person a fool and evil because of he doesn't believe the same shit you do.

  • Hate to say it homie, but your reading comprehension skills are seriously lacking.

    Never said what I believed in anywhere on any of these comments.

    Never called anyone evil.

    The fact of the matter is you, nor I, nor anyone knows the answer to any of this.

  • And for your information it's clear that carpathia was pointing out the oft misquoted statement about the eye actually says the opposite of " I can't explain the complexity of the eye" . The part you left out describes how eyes can arise though natural selection. It's as honest as saying Psalm 14.1 says "fool......there is no god" How could you not get that little bit of satire?

  • @bukojack

    Why don't you quote what he said right after this quote? This is a very old creationist arguement and has already been throughly debunked.

  • mine quote, to the highest degree. if you continue on that quote, it's basically sarcasm.

  • @bukojack

    Darwin also lived a long time before DNA had been discovered, which is one of the major facts used for the theory of evolution. We also know of many other human type primates with out tails that walked on two legs which have gone extinct.

    Darwin had the original idea of evolution, and is a respected individual for it, however he had no where near the evidence we have now that confirms to a very high degree the theory of evolution.

  • Sometimes i wonder if Cameron is a) just stupid b) really believes that stuff or c) Is just wicked and trying to make a lot of money. I would not mind if he was only c, but i think a is playing a part as well. People pay to much attention to him. To me he is just ridiculous and the best thing to do would be not to take him and that other guy seriously, deny him a public debate.

  • The sad thing is that NONE of what the girl was saying hasn't gotten through to Kirk. He's still stupid.

  • None of those governments nor leaders of those governments ever called in the name of atheism; they called in the name of communism, in contrast to the Spanish Inquisition which called millions and explicitly in the name of God.

  • I think that Buddhism was pretty popular under the Chinese Communists. They didn't outlaw it and I think it constitutes a religion. Also, the Nazis were primarily Christian. I think that the main thing you have established is that communism and nazis were evil. No arguments there.

  • @LowOIL does this include war-time casualties? cuz germans killed 27 million soviets

  • I just want to be clear, you don't think that what KC and RC were doing with this publicity was disingenuous and deceitful?

  • @nationofjoe No, I don't think so. They are concerned about where people will spend eternity.

  • this girl blew his mind...i'm going to throw this into audacity and see if i can clean away the background noise so i can hear Kurt's feet squirming in his shoes...

  • That would be awesome. Lemme know if you're gonna host it.

  • trying it right now...Kurk really spoke very quietly for most of the debate and his voice is easily drowned out by the horn and white noise in the background...going to try a couple of other things : )

  • If you really do that, let me know.

  • Wow, that is one patient woman! I would have walked away from him after a minute or so of trying to debate him. I have little patience for ignorant, deceitful, hypocritical asswipes like this shmuck, Kirk Cameron.

  • Agreed, she was way more patient than I probably would have been.

  • This was at UCLA? were was Greg Graffin from Bad Religion! I would have loved to have seen greg rip kirk camoren a new asshole!

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  • Great job! I hope you guys took a copy of his altered Origin of the Species and spit on it.

  • Wow, she's ripping him a new a-hole (he needs one, since Ray's not there). If he wasn't such a pompous moron, I'd feel bad for him.

  • i want to marry that girl.

  • Ray comfort doesn't understand where BANANAS come from, why would trust him on the origin of ANYTHING ELSE!

  • hey sorry i tried my hardest to listen. But its to hard, the audio quality as you know, isn't the best.

  • hey  anyone want to play with me

  • There is also a tuba being played somewhere.

  • YES! It was just a tuba alone actually. I forgot what it was called for some reason.

  • The reason is the same reason it took me about a week to remember the word for the name of the hole in the ground that has water shooting out of it. geyser. A couple of more days and I would been in a rubber room.

  • My favorite part is at about 5:20 when she's asking him a question he's not qualified to answer, and he looks off camera, and you can tell he's holding back from yelling "line?"

  • why there is no chat on you tube.. Btw anyone up for some cam chat^^

  • Kirk Cameron is a victim of childhood brainwashing, from his parents, which he is now passing along down to his many children.

  • your talking to a brick wall. next you see this guys just follow him and say "Mr. Crocoduck I want a Banana!"

  • Wtf is up with the trumpet?

  • that girl is cute and seems fun to talk to i would love to meet her someday

  • Explaining science to Ray comfort and Kurt Cameron is like explaining a car to an ancient Roman  who thinks its a chariot with an invisible horse.

  • @Iothartheterrible Best analogy EVER!

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  • Kirk Cameron needs to get back to talking to stupid gang members on the Venice boardwalk?

  • Wow! This is great stuff. When this fool finds himself in an unscripted real-life situation, confronted by someone who IS prepared, he is exposed as the "DUNCE" that he is! I love his stammering struggle to match her, and his total inability to do so! I admire this girl, her intellect and calm as she "has" him "against the ropes"! Her courage and poise, I LOVE !!!

  • Cameron is just an intellectually dishonest moron. You would have more luck convincing a wall of evolution than getting Kirk to be honest.

  • Try it, I'll check 'em out, and then we'll see.

  • "uuhhh... mmhhh... CROCODUCK!!!"

  • lmao

  • I love how she says that bonobos are more "friendly" with each other. I think if Kirk ever saw how "friendly" bonobos are, he'd try to extend censorship laws.

    To the girl in the video, you are amazing. You just dominated that fool. I want to have your babies.

  • RAY CUMFART

  • Finally, Kirk Cameron Unscripted! He looks like every other Religion Pushing fanatic on a College Campus; out of his element. As my wonderful Chemistry teacher said, "Science and Religion are two different things". I wonder what Kirk would tell the doctor the next time he needs to get Flu Shot or another vaccination? Probably, "Ah, don't worry about it, God'll fix me". One last thing: There is no Religion that is a Scientific Law or Theory. They are all Hypotheses.

  • Wow, Kirk.. argue against science on a University campus? These aren't the same dipsh!t kids you and Ray Comfort assault on the Venice boardwalk for your propaganda videos. Good job on getting owned! Thinking on your feet is harder than you thought eh? Go back to sticking to your usual routine of setting up uneducated teenagers with loaded questions & false dichotomies then editing the response footage into another one of those way of the master videos to coerce the laymen into believing myth.

  • Thank God Kirk found God, I'd hate to have him arguing for atheism after seeing his skills here.

  • Kirk Cameron just got owned by an Asian College student.

  • Isn't Asian. 1/2 Latina and 1/2 Arabic.

  • "i understand what you're saying" no he doesn't, he isn't even listening, he's just waiting for the chance to spout his memorized talking points.

  • some child stars turn to drugs, he turned to jesus. at least with drugs you have a good time while you rot your mind.

  • My guess is that many, many people have told Kurt what science actually is and he just ignores them. The gum chewing helps him tune them out!

  • I really wish that asshole wasn't playing the trumpet in the background

  • Awesome! Did you guys get autographed copies? :D

  • This is great. I LOVE this, and I was hoping something like this would happen after that douche bag (and ray) released that gimp version of Origin of Species. He is a horrible person, and it's great to see a student pwn him.

  • I love how, without fail, creationists know absolutely nothing about the evolution they claim to debunk

  • He just got shut down...!!

  • Kirk Cameron is a moron. Holy freaking crap.

  • Kirk needs to start targeting junior colleges and trade schools. His ignorance is stunning; only matched by his arrogance.

  • "I heard you earlier" aka "shut up, and stop pointing out that I'm lying"

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  • Kirk Cameron is a complete and utter idiot.

    He should disassociate himself from Ray Comfort as soon as possible, publicly apologise for the modified version of The origin which he has put his name to, educate himself on the subject of evolution and accept it as scientific fact.

    If he does this I may just change my opinion of him.

  • Kirk Cameron is an idiot, along with Ray Comfort. I've seen some of the works of Ray, and to be honest, it's disgusting. He blatantly disregards facts, and writes it off as "the things made up by scientists". Point is, Ray Comfort is an uneducated, religiously obsessed no-knowing. He talks about things that he has no idea of.

  • i love people who use google to try and act like their the all knowing. im seeing the down side of the net now!

  • Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron = world-class idiots. It's impossible to more stupid than these dishonest assholes.

  • primitive idiot who doesnt even have basic knowledge on evolution wants to be a hero and spread the word of God to save us from eternal damnation. right.

  • I think I love this girl. This is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in my life! Cameron has a dumbfounded look on his face throughout the entire video. This girl is incredible!

  • I still think Mike Seaver and BBF Boner had a thing going in the garage after school.

  • What the fuck. Did he just make fun of his stutter? What a dick.

  • Kirk Cameron is one of the most dishonest people I have ever saw in my life.

  • Ha! Oh I love this girl! Cameron is pooing his pants!

    I'm also going to be really crude and misogynistic ......She is unbelievably hawt! :D

  • I'm watching this on Thanksgiving - appropriate, as I am filled with thankfulness for the young lady in the video. You give me hope for the future!

  • He probably should have went to the worst universities, not the best. haha

    Good job. : )

  • Arguing with Kirk Cameron over evolution would be like discussing philosophy with Play-Doh.

    Cameron is so deathly insecure about his own stance, he has to be overly aggressive with his views, not as a way to convince you, but as a way to convince himself. Cameron the type of person who, the more obvious they are wrong, the more avidly and fanatically they will defend their fallacious reasoning.

  • One thing no one has said:

    If Atheists were to make a 50 page introduction of the bible saying that it is a fake book and hand it out to church members on Christmas morning - wouldn't that be considered extremely insensitive?

    I mean, these guys aren't "nice". They are playing very dirty and simply don't care or respect others AT ALL. They don't deserve a debate - they deserve to be kicked out of society.

  • nationofjoe, may I mirror this video?

  • Cameron has the worst kind of egotistical arrogance- the kind he mistakes for humble faith. Millions have died as a result of people like Cameron mistaking arrogance for righteousness.

  • Cameron's a nut.

  • Chameleon...nice.

  • dead, mechanical universe vs a conscious universe? Not sure how you have come to that conclusion, but if that is the result of your intellectual research I encourage you to dig a bit deeper.

  • Oh really? Care to give a better array of options? You reject the man in the sky, the mechanical Universe, and the Conscious Universe. So please tell me, what is the other option I am missing?

  • The girl is pretty strong here! But if she had read Dawkins' latest book "The Greatest Show on Earth", I think she would have done even better. For example, what would be very useful here, would be the analogy to a crime scene, when the detective doesn't have to have a video tape of the whole crime taking place, but all the clues (fingerprints, body temperature, footprints, etc) pieced together can produce extremely precise estimate of what had happened.

  • Interesting, NationofJoe, that you would delete some of my comments.

  • I deleted your comments?

  • Microevolution is symptomatic of evolution as a whole, you fucking failed child star!

  • i can't hear this dude at all

  • love how this girl kicked his ass

  • Religion is fucking retarded. It's the worse thing mankind has ever come up with.

  • A Creationist on a university campus? What, he didn't explode from the cognitive dissonance? A Creationist going to a place of education is like a Ku Klux Klan member going to a Martin Luther King Jr. celebration.

  • I admire her persistance, but this is pointless. Debates like this never go anywhere. Subborn creationists don't listen. Trust me, I've wasted many hours doing exactly this.

  • Not really. While you will never convince a completely deluded tool like Kirk that evolution is scientific fact that is really not the point of the debate. The point of the debate is show that person listening to the debate that might be sitting on the ID/evolution fence that ID is a flat out lie. You are out to save the followers not the prophet.

  • haha, why the hell is some random kid playing chameleon in the background?

  • shows brilliance of ucla students. go bruins

  • ick join the high def age people, but a better phone

  • Kirk, you piece of shyte. Im telling you, you are fineshed↓

  • lolz... almost 1,500

    search: "anti justin bieber army"

  • Kirk Cameron doesn't even know the difference between abiogenesis and evolution. He's not qualified to debate such topics lol. . .

  • These guys have nothing to do with god. Kirk is a direct representative of satan because no god would resort to lies and cult tactics.

  • I'm an atheist, but I think you're right on, haha.

  • Kirk doesn't understand. He keeps saying stuff like "I understand that", but he doesn't. He's looking around, chewing gum, rolling his eyes... like a distracted child, not listening.

  • very true.

  • When the saints, oh when the saints, oh when the saints go marching in!

  • Brezable: Go fuck yourself, you stupid homophobe.

    You have more in common with bigoted anti-gay Christian evangelicals than you realize.

  • Oh fuck me, you little butthurt (no pun intended) gay person.

    Get up to speed with the internet language, faggot has a lot more meaning right now, thn just being an insult towards gay people.

  • @Brezable FUCK YOU, you're an idiot for saying that. Faggot refers to gay people, dumbfuck, any other meaning is just what you americunts use because u have NO intelligence

  • Dude, you need to watch the episode of South park called "The F Word" Faggot no longer means gay person. It's someone who is incredibly annoying. Get with the times prick.

  • Dude, language changes! it happens, get with the program, the word faggot is beginning to mean an extremely annoying person watch the episode of South Park "The F Word"

  • That's fuckin american douchebag slang. All you people are complete idiots anyway. Look up a dictionary meaning... EXACTLY.. stupid fucking american

  • Definitions change! You can't help it. It's just going to happen.

  • Everything from God is Full of Win!

  • What, like bacteria, virus, child death, rape, killing, people not being able to digest lactose. Or did you mean in "My god let's me behave in the way I want because I'm a douche with the same amount of humanity and intelligence as an amoeba?"

  • theres a lot of talking around the topic going on

    must be lonely being famous