As a community, we Ismailis help all MUSLIMS: Restoration of Al-Aqsa Mosque, Restoration of Bukhara Old City, Restoration of Amiriya MADRASA, Restoration of Al-Abbas Mosque, Restoration of Mopti's Great Mosque, Restoration of the Humayun's Tomb gardens, The Al-Azhar Park (including the restoration of the 12th Century Ayyubid wall). Go to AKDN.org for more information.
May Allah grant understanding to those who are full of ignorance. Ameen.
Risky530 Anyone can see that you are running away from the debate and refuse to quote verse 36:12 and 78: 29. So I quote these verses tanslated by Yusuf Ali a Shia: "Verily We shall give life to the dead and We record that which they sent before and that which they leave behind and of all things have We taken account in a clear Book (of evidence)." "And all things have We preserved on record."
DO YOU SEE? WHAT YOU ARE READING IN YOUR ISMAILI DU'A BOOK IS TOTAL FALSEHOOD...
@aaa11092 Here is a verse from the Qur'an 6:: 159 "As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair
is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did." Shia Ishna Asheri Mazhab is a Sect.
there is two type to take knowledge 1 to down the opposite 2 to know about them if ur q is like 1st then i cant answer if the 2nd one then come open challenge to any of u if i will lost i will leave my ismaili firqa if u then what will u do????? what so u say
@Risky530 There has to be an uninterrupted LINK of Ismaili Imams "generation after generation" from Imam No. 1 to Imam No.49 as published in Ismaili DU'A Book which is recited in the Ismaili Jamatkhans that is the heart and soul of the LIVING IMAMAT that will continue to the end of the world. Quote their Real Names at their Births, their Real Birth and Death years from History that proves the LINK of the designated IMAMS (Nass) is Direct and Uninterrupted or Unbroken...
some body have to tell him start giving his young kid,s start giving there parent,s a respect also .start opening there worship place to every body we can see how is your khuda is . do,t called self any thing beside open your chest and show the world how your guy,s are realy. do.t called your self a another muslim branch e do,t belived it ?
@mostmerciful999 ... our Allah is the one who created this universe, who created you, who created me, who created Abida Parveen and this whole universe. The one and only God, creator and sustainer of the universe.
Stop bringing discord within the Ummah, when a few of us are trying to reunite the Ummah. Shame on people like yourself. I'm getting a feeling you have a personal agenda here. Hence, you are utilizing Ayats & Hadiths that only suit your needs. Allah (SWT) please help us all from this kind of evilness. Ameen
I find it extremely unsettling when the Ummah even though it's divided into 73 different communities has discord within themselves. To condemn goes against Allah (SWT)'s will. Why would you want to do that? You will have to be answerable to Allah (SWT) for attacking an Ahl al Bayat whether you accept him or not. The Holy Prophet (SAW) said out of 73 only one is on the true path, how do you know which faith is on the true path? You can't be sure of that only Allah (SWT) knows.
@MagicGenie786 Knowledge of the UNSEEN is with Allah Alone. Qur'an reveals: "Say: "(O' Prophet) I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen I should have multiplied all good and no evil should have touched me I am but a warner and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith." 7: 188. "Lo! As for those who sunder their religion and become schismatics, no concern at all hast thou with them." 6: 159.
After reading many of the post, it's very obvious that you were an Ismaili, who is no longer, you attacking another faith's Imam is showing that you are a very vindictive person. Which goes against the Muslim faith. Some lady mentioned that you are now a Jew? If that's the case, why are you wasting your energy on the Aga Khan, whom I have read very positive things about. Makes no sense. If you don't want to be in a specific faith, that's your choice but to condemn a man, isn't right.
@MagicGenie786 Do you have any PROOF that I am now a Jew... SPEAKING LIES is a major SIN... The issue of this YouTube presentation is about the TALIKA of Karim Aga Khan in 2008 about introducing the Islamic SALAH that was read in most of the Ismaili Jamatkhanas... Tell us: Has Aga Khan sent that Namaz or Salah to his followers? IF NOT... Why and WHEN is the next DATE? This is exposition of the TRUE FACTS. NOT BACK BITING. Today is 23 August 2010... Why are you repeating the same comment???
@mostmerciful999 Bismillah. The Ismaili Namaz is to be announced and don't you know its approved ? AgaKhan never said any thing which he can't do. You should check out the history.
In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful
Subhanallah, it’s a common disease in our society, people backbite a lot knowingly and unknowingly. Backbiting is very dangerous. We should avoid talking about people behind their back completely. If we see someone talking evil about someone we should remind them that backbiting is a very severe sin and it will lead to a severe punishment.
"The fools among the people would say,"Why did they change the direction of their Qiblah?"*Say, "To GOD belongs the east and the west;He guides whoever wills in a straight path."
@MagicGenie786 The Qur'an "So from whencesoever thou startest forth turn thy face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque; among wheresoever ye are turn your face thither that there be no ground of dispute against you among the people except those of them that are bent on wickedness; so fear them not but fear Me; and that I may complete My favors on you and ye may (consent to) be guided."
Qur'an Sura 2, Verse 150. Should NOT one warn people who DO NOT FACE the Direction of Sacred Mosque?
And do not drive away those who call upon their Lord in the morning and the evening, they desire only His favor; neither are you answerable for any reckoning of theirs, nor are they answerable for any reckoning of yours, so that you
should drive them away and thus be of the unjust.
... (52) Surat al-Anam
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Now let's see how Mr. "mostmerciful" Obeys the holy book. I bet he knows who calls upon their Lord in the morning and evening
@sabzalish I suggest you to visit my website and read my article
mostmerciful/obeying-decrees-determined.
It upholds the Verse 6: 52. Also read my articles on the Realities of Our Daily Prayers
Once one Learns the TRUTH REVEALED BY ALLAH one has to discard the earlier beliefs that were misleading. Pagan Arabs became Muslims once they heard the verses of the Quran. The major unresolved issue is with the Recited Text of the Ismaili Dua in Jamatkhanas. Hence the need of SALAH.
I find Youtube quite interesting. Why does the author of the video have to reply for my comment to be posted? I would love to keep my conversation open with this man but my last comment never got posted!
@iringa77 You make provocating comments about the author and expect him to ignore your comments about my sanity!!! You get upset if your comments are NOT posted as soon as you post them... That's the proof of your state of mind...
You are making an assumption that I am a practicing Ismaili because I am from Africa and I am challenging you. Did I bruise your fragile ego? Your ramblings on You Tube have never really been about educating the Ismailis but rather about fulfiling some sick need in yourself. Frankly at this point I am not only questioning your motive but also your sanity. I wonder did you get all your "education" in a madrassa or did you in fact attend an educational institution?
You are living in the age of darkness in the world of organised religion. Who really cares where one faces while praying? What personal need are you trying to gratify by spewing hatred from the confines of your comfortable home? Again; look within and if I may suggest; personal counselling may be of assistance to you.
Again; you are not anwering my question. Why are you so fixated on Ismailis when you should be focussing on "you"? You are probably focussing outside of yourself because it is too scary for you to look within yourself? Instead of focussing on a religion; any religion for that matter, how about focussing on performing good deeds?
@iringa77 Agakhani ISMAILIS is the ONLY Muslim Sect that DOES NOT FACE THE DIRECTION OF SACRED MOSQUE in Mekkah while praying. Read following TEXT from verse 2: 150 of Quran. "So from whencesoever thou startest forth turn thy face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque; among wheresoever ye are turn your face thither that there be no ground of dispute against you among the people except those of them that are bent on wickedness." Is it NOT A GOOD DEED showing misguided Ismailis ALLAH'S TRUTH?
Ismailism is pathetic. Muslims were commanded to pray 1400 years ago. And now the Aga Khan thinks he can make up a rule were he tells everyone to pray by the end of 2009? Plus you are supposed to pray 5 times a day not 3. People who follow this faith must be in it for the money.
You come across as an individual struggling with your own demons. Why not invite goodness in your life instead of spewing hatred? Frankly why are you doing this?
@iringa77 Qur'an Sura 103 : Verses 1 to 3: "By the declining day,
Lo! man is in a state of loss, Save those who believe and do good works, and exhort one another to truth and exhort one another to endurance."
Frankly, to obey our Creator... IN 2002 Karim Aga Khan declared in Huston, Texas, USA "The word of Qur'an is the Word of God" at the opening of the Ismaili Jamatkhana.... Do you consider spreading the Word of OUR Creator is "spewing hatred?"
Oh old man. why are u getting slim on thinking of Ismaili religion. You have quit Ismaili , then suni, then christian. Now you are fetching money from Jews. Fool people giving you money. continue. How many years you will live more ?
@mostmerciful999 .-They have their own sustainer,and cheiresher aga khan,who send them rozi on 23rd of march naoroze every year which they keep in their treassury, and bank safe deposit.
@mostmerciful999 .-Aga khan is sustainer of this bunch of mushrik ismailis,who send him ROZI on the 23rd march NAO ROZE of every year which they keep in their treasury, bank safe deposit and kiss it every now and then.
The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: "I am leaving for you two precious and weighty Symbols that if you adhere to BOTH of them you shall not go astray after Me. They are, the Book of Allah, and my Progeny, that is my Ahlul-Bayt. The Merciful (Allah) has informed me that these two shall not separate from each other till they come to Me by the Pool (of Paradise)." Sahih al Tirmidhi, v5, pp 662-663 (This is an authentic Sunni source)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TheSultanKarim Was Tirmidhi Shia or Sunni when he died? If he was a Sunni, then that clearly shows he was not the COLLECTOR of that Saying or Tirmidhi did not have faith in what has been attributed in his name... If he was a Shiah then that is NOT A SUNNI SOURCE !!!!!!!
You have not posted the Hadith of Prophetmohammed (PBUH). Post the truth. It the authentic Sunni source. Do not filter my comments. I WORSHIP the Aga Khan. Let the truth be know.
@TheSultanKarim I worship the ONE Who Created the Aga Khan..
You calim the Hadith recorded by TIRMIDHI as the SAYING OF THE PROPHET, IF Tirmidhi was the True Believer of the Prophet, and the Hadith is authentic then why did Tirmidhi himself did NOT become a SHIAH MUSLIM?
The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: "I am leaving for you two precious and weighty Symbols that if you adhere to BOTH of them you shall not go astray after Me. They are, the Book of Allah, and my Progeny, that is my Ahlul-Bayt. The Merciful (Allah) has informed me that these two shall not separate from each other till they come to Me by the Pool (of Paradise)." Sahih al Tirmidhi, v5, pp 662-663 (Authentic Sunni source)
@TheSultanKarim There TWO other Versions with the same reference. You have quoted by those who followed Hazrat Ali (as). Those who follow the SUNNI Tariqah refers to leaving behind the Qur'an and his SUNNAH. And there are others that speaks of leaving behind the QUR'AN only. Follow the Qur'an 6: 159: "As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did."
@mostmerciful999 "Verily God preferred Adam, Noah and the family of Ibrahim and Imran above all His creatures. Offsprings, one of the other." Quran 3:33-34 The Aga Khan is the direct descedant of Ibrahim.
@TheSultanKarim Was not The Aga Khan III the direct descendant of Aga Khan I ?
In his auto-biography and before the High CourtS in India he AK I admitted being an
ITHNA-ASHRI SHIAH WHO FOLLOW IMAM MUSA KAZIM... Read your own history book... Imam Ismail dies before the death of his father Jaffer Sadiq read the History BOOK THE ISMAILIS by Farhad Daftary a relative of Aga Khan...
he is the imam of the time he has complete authority on our lives if he says stop breathing we all will stop we dont question his authority he is our beloved imam
if he says no prayers we wont say prayers if he says offer namaz we will do that
@raxid123 .-If your beloved imam askyou tyo jump over the river ,will you jump,stop heckles, like your ancesters, Do you thinkthat whatever aga khan say is accepted.
When did the Aga Khan ever say that the Namaz will REPLACE the dua. He did say that he will approve a textof namaz, but when did it replace the dua... Never has that been said by Aga Khan. Even though you think it would be nice in your views, we cannot assume this.. so that when it is not replaced you can say that the Aga Khan never kept his word when he never said anything about eliminating the holy dua.
@MrAlnoor786 Try to remember; the Late Aga Khan 3rd introduced the ARABIC Dua and replaced the GUJRATI Dua. Did anyone recite that Gujrati Dua after the introduction of the Arabic Dua? You yourself admit that Karim Aga Khan did say he was to APPROVE THE TEXT OF NAMAZ FOR HIS FOLLOWERS and that was in 2008. THE QUESTION IS "WHERE IS THAT TEXT OF THE NAMAZ TODAY IN 2010? CANNOT HE HIMSELF MAKE THE TEXT OF THE DAILY PRAYER FOR HIS FOLLOWERS?
Your arguments are very trivial and hard to accept in rational ways....I am sorry about all your discussion.Instead of admiring whole world's humanity you under-estimate others......the reason of your personal grievance,
LET ME ASK YOU..DO U THINK ALL SECTS IN ISLAM ARE DOING SAME..COMMON OR WHICH ONE is RIGHT?
YOU SHOULD TRY TO BUILD A GOOD IMAGE OF ISLAM THAN CREATING HATRED AND DIFFERENCES, THOSE WHO FOLLOW UR ADVOCACY. SEE AROUND YOU. HOW THEY ARE PERCEIVED IN TODAY"S TIME
@mostmerciful999 you are truly mistaken as you will see soon enough. im am not talking about what has happened once in our history. The Namaz will be introduced for ismailis that live along with other Nonismailis and have to pray with them due to their demographics, Or for ismailis so that they can pray with their nonismaili brothers and sisters if they are in a time and setting of prayer. The dua will remain compulsory for ismailis...if you don't agree with it now, you will see soon enough.
@mostmerciful999, You have chasing your own tail getting nowhere. Mralnoor786 challenged to show where in the Taliqa he said he was going to replace Dua with Namaz. Finding yourself at your wits end, you twist the argument and go back to the time of Imam Sultan Mohd Shah (A.S). Stick to the core of the argument and don't beat around the bush. That said I have told you before since you are not an Ismaili anymore, why poke your dirty nose in our affairs. Our Bayah it to the Imam and not to you!
@meswani ALL the Ismailis Lied about the FARMAN/TALIKA for the coming of Namaz? Since it has not yet come WHO LIED? On the Great Day who will protect you? Better wake up...
@mostpitiful, I sense desperation in your "argument by vehemence": your comments appear noisy, shallow, incoherent and will make a baby look like an Einstein when searching "rationalization" in your babbling. Read again what MrAlnoor786 and I said. Second or third time may be a charm if you tried hard. I would hold my breath on this though. Have you finally figured out which foot to wash first during WUDU; left or right? spend your time practicing that.
@meswani NAMAZ that was to come in 2009 HAS NOT COME. Today is May 24, 2010. So the real sense of Desperation, Disappointment and Devastation is for YOU the HARD LINED follower of the One who has sent the TALIKA/FARMAN of sending the NAMAZ. Now tell the viewers Karim Aga Khan NOT atall sent that Farman of the NAMAZ....
@mostpitiful, I sense desperation in your "argument by vehemence": your comments appear noisy, shallow, incoherent and will make a baby look like an Einstein when searching "rationalization" in your babbling. Read again what MrAlnoor786 and I said. Second or third time may be a charm if you tried hard. I would not hold my breath on this though. Have you finally figured out which foot to wash first during WUDU; left or right? spend your time practicing that.
@mostmerciful999, Meherally read our lips "WHY ARE YOU SO ANTSY AND FIDGETY? THE IMAM AT HIS SOLE DISCRETION MAY OR OTHERWISE NOT GIVE US THE NAMAZ. IF YOU ARE NOT AN ISMAILI ANYMORE, MORE POWER TO YOU. RELAX AND FOLLOW YOUR FAITH AS WE HOLD NOTHING AGAINST THOSE RENOUNCING THEIR BAYYAH TO HAZAR IMAM AS INSTRUCTED BY HIM" Hope that penetrates your head once for all. Keep my fingers crossed!
@meswani Aga Khan One was staunch Ithna'ashri (12er) and he admits in his autobiobraphy IBRAT AFSHA. Aga Khan 3rd amitted in his Memoirs his parents were Ithnaa'ashris. He used to go to Imamwada in Bombay for Matam with other Twelvers. When Haji Bibi filed a Law Suit he changed his FAITH and became the Living Imam. And thereafter he made Farmans against the Faith he had left. Read his writings in the Memoir about the Tariqah he had left.
Nothing is permanent in our existence except change......And God also never likes stagnant life.....Use your rationality......If God has to impose one belief, why He keeps sending his representatives on earth with new laws, regulations and divine guidance...
I read in Najul Balagha that Prophet Mohammad referred that His life was struggling with Exoteric meaning of Quran and he referred towards Ali (AS) that He will fight His whole life for Esoteric meaning of Quran.
@tasawar79 Allah keeps on sending His Progressive Divine Guidance and Instructions through His chosen Messengers for the mankind whose duty was to spread the Allah's Revealed Message Clearly and Openly. Ali (a.s.) never claimed that Allah's Message was also sent to him through Angel Gabriel as it was Revealed to Prophet Muhamed (s.a.s.) and those who came before him like Jesus, Moses and other Prophets (peace be upon them), mentioned in the Qur'an.
@tasawar79 .-stop heckles,Quran and Allahs law are forever, and unchangable.five fundaments of Islam straigt from begining since 1400 hundred years are unchageable,and you cannot subsitute it with your fabricated fake,fetched, imams aga khan,vali khan,and kuli khan whome you worship in your kenejr khanas.
the aga khan is a scam artist and a con man. he is a cult leader who scams the poor followers in poor countries like india, pakistan and tajikistan out of their money, while running off with blonde women and living like a wealthy billionaire in france off of THEIR money. i mean if agha khanis want to part with their money, they can always give it to me, i mean why should he get it?? =) how stupid some people can be is beyond me. its a cult and nothing more.
@xgotfiveonitx .-He will never intoduce islamic namaz salat in his chandoo khanas, because by doing so he will loss about hundred and fifity million pound daily income from idiot ismailis,all over the world ,from various fake religious tax and DUA KERAVO CHATTA NEKHAO MEHMANI KHATO NANDI etc.
God listens to the prayers of the Christians, the Jews, the Muslims, the Hindus, the Buddhists, etc. "SeyedIranian" you are narrow minded. Islam is not the first religion. The introduction of God to mankind has existed for over 5000 years since the time of Hinduism. Do you actually believe that God listens to only one particular prayer that you subscribe to? And that God has only been listening for 1400 years? You are definitely an IGNORANT man. God in His infinite mercy is PLURALISTIC.
God listens to the prayers of the Christians, the Jews, the Muslims, the Hindus, the Buddhists, etc. "SeyedIranian" you are narrow minded. Islam is not the first religion. The introduction of God to mankind has existed for over 5000 years since the time of Hinduism. Do you actually believe that God listens to only one particular prayer that you subscribe to? And that God has only been listening for 1400 years? You are definitely an IGNORANT man. God in His infinite mercy is PLURALISTIC.
...Quran is a holy book to inspire us; NOT limit us. Fools fail to connect with Allah in their hearts, deafly and blindly arguing and trying to explain every aspect of belief from centuries old Quran. This is the kind of Blindness and Deafness Allah warns us about. Your heart knows and sees beyond any spoken language can communicate. Spoken languages have limitations. By His limitless Mercy, Allah has blessed us with closeness and equalness which we ignore by limiting ourselves....
it is said in Quran that those who are dump and deep we should not preach them beause Allahswt then why are you pushing luck and see look at thing which are wrong in muslim community where they do not know where to bury the newly embranced non beliver to give proper answer where the person is going to be buried instead you are just talking about the differenrces and comparasion..do some thing that people can rememebr you after you gone and advise them but stop on compariasion.
@mostmerciful999 .-Really i dont know who sprinked water on 47 imams, but i know aga khan 3rd was sprinked by the ismaili mukhi,and sir ONLY ALLAH CAN FORGIVE SINS, AS A ES ISMAILI ICONFIRM IT FROM Quranic verse-3/135,and fully agree with you.
I am an Ismaili Muslim and extremely proud to be one. Ismailis respect pluralism and diversity regardless of your religious persuasion. The Aga Khan is improving the quality of life of all peoples in the world's poorest countries regardless of race, color,or ethnicity, e.g., Aga Khan schools, Aga Khan hospitals are institutions that operate on a no profit and no dividend policy. The Aga Khan follows both The Quran and Our Beloved Prophet (PBUH). He is authentic Islam. Follow His example.
@TheSultanKarim.- Charity does not override the religious duty of any one. we know his charity,but FROM WHERE THE MONEY COME. IT IS NOT HIS MONEY,BUT PAID BY ISMAILIS IN SHAPEOF VARIOUS RELIGIOUS TAXES,I.E 12.50% DASOOND ON GROSS INCOME PLUS GIVEN BY INTERNATIONAL WORLD NGOs
@0991786 Ophra Winfry; Warren Buffet and Bill Gates would make an excellent HOLY TRINITY if CHARITY was the basic Criteria for THE DIVINITY. Two Men and One Woman, so MEN could over-rule WOMEN !!! Is not God the Father of Jesus a Male entity for more than two billion followers?
@TheSultanKarim If Karim Aga Khan is sincerely promoting PLURALISM and truly following Our Prophet when is he going to LEAD THE FRIDAY Prayers and deliver
the Khutbahs where ALL MUSLIMS living in his home town near Paris in France can partake and learn Islam from this LIVING IMAM-e-MUBIN?
@TheSultanKarim .-Aga khan improving the life of poor all over the world where.-?,and it does not mean that his help to poor, should override his religious duty. Tell me what is his religion.-Have you seen him any time inany mosque,mandir,church or in your ownismaili jamat khans offeringyou dua-?
It is Allah SWT who first instructed Prophet Muhammad to offer Namaz during the Miraaj journey. And only now Ismailis are going to do namaz after the Aga Khan has told them to do so???
The Old Guards who hold the Titles, Leadership and Clouts within their Society and the positions within the Jamatkhanas are too strong. Coming of Namaz means the end of their hierachy.
When you refer Quranic verse 4:59....why not we inquire for the third important element mention by Allah. We believe on God, Phophet and then where are the individuals who got divine authority. If u interpret remaining part...it is same situation like Prophet Muhammad's time few followed him and rest denied him.
I appreciate the discussion! You can not deny the reality that prophet mentioned about the creation of further sects in Islam. 2ndly, one needs to affirm with his/ her understanding, why to impose on others, it means there is some thing missing inside and not clarity like the guy speaks in this video.
"As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did." Qur'an 6: 159
Mr. Meherally, change your name to meherallah. Also, it is "SHIRK" to have a name of mostmerciful999. Allah soley is Most Merciful and putting 999 after that makes it even a bigger "SHIRK". FYI I am not an Aga Khani.
The TRUTH comes out from your writtings... Read YOU have addressed me as "Mr. Meherally" and that's my name.... Are you denying what YOU have stated???
Mr Meherally Akbaralley - your problem is that you're our from ONE SHELL and are dumped into another DARK SHELL. In the name of fairness and due respect, I give you a full credit for writing " The History of Agakhani Ismail'is" [ available online on your web page]. According to your book "not even a single Ismail'i practice is compatible to Sharia" .
Why you're wasting your time, then? Is there a need to clarify that the Ismail'is do not face " QIBLA" when jamatkhana is a KUFARKHANA?
i wonder why ismailis do not face qibla for 363 days of the year but 2 days of idd in a year suddenly their argument of chapter 2 verse 142 reverses and they offer salah like the rest of 99 percent muslim ummah... strange isnt it !!!!
More STRANGE is that ALL their Imams starting from Ali a.s. (except for the 23rd Imam Hasan who was a son of a Dai named Muhammad) have been facing qibla while praying...
When you prepare for prayer it is not righteousness that you turn your faces towards east or West, but it is righteousness, to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers
However, here is a quote from the Qur'an Chapter 25, Verse 52, Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali: "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness with the (Qur'an)."
Why do the Ismailis believe NOT their Creator Allah and Face the Direction of the SACRED MOSQUE while praying as Commanded by the Creator in Chapter 2, Verse 150? IF their IMAM says face that Direction & recite Islamic Salah they would do.
When Ali ibne Abi Talib (as) was born, the Kaaba was the Pagan Sanctuarry with more than 300 Pagan Idols inside that House of Pagans... More importantly. quote from an authentic published history book that records his birth INSIDE this sanctuary where the Pagans were Praying to their Idols... How can a child birth - an event that needs PRIVACY, happened in a Pagan Temple with Pagans Dancing?
You'll receive them by email because this window lacks the capacity, and please have the courtesy to present them factually and in wholeness with out scotch taping your wishful comments.
Quote me the entire verse about "wa ulel amri menkom" Obey also the Amirul momenin!" as it is revealed and recorded in the Qur'an... I hope you will come back without FOOLING AROUND...
Since you did NOT quote the Revealed Verse from the Qur'an as requested and Ismailis do RECITE the EDITED TEXT in their Dua, let me quote the ENTIRE VERSE below:
"O ye who believe! obey Allah and obey the Apostle and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves refer it to Allah and His Apostle if ye do believe
in Allah and the Last Day: that is best and most suitable for final determination." Chapter (4) Verse 59
As an Agakhani Ismaili you believe in the early part of Verse 4; 59 and insist upon others to believe that portion. BUT you do not even wish to pay attention to the rest of the same Verse which clearly Reveals: "and if you have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end."HENCE, when Allah Commands in Verse 2: 150: FACE THE DIRECTION OF SACRED MOSQUE WHILE PRAYING Ismailis disobey.
you should clearly know what we think about Aga Khan ( Shah Karim Al Husaini Hazir Imam), must be no ambiguity in your mind you may also visit to your family graveyard and ask them what they think about him and they also told you that they believe in
HAQ TO PAK TO YA SHAH MEHARBAN TO HI TO
believe me its not my poety its the oldest poetry in Sindhi Language now you need to change the poetry or you know the truth is always trut. take good care of yourself
Neither you nor I have to figure out the rest of the Message. It is revealed what follows and I quote the Qur'an: "We see the turning of thy face (for guidance) to the heavens; now shall We turn thee to a Qiblah that shall please thee. Turn then thy face in the direction of the Sacred
Mosque; wherever ye are turn your faces in that direction. The people of the book know well that that is the truth from their Lord nor is Allah unmindful of what they do." Qur'an 2: 144.THE TRUTH ALWAYS TRIUMPHS
Can you please quote the Sayings of the Prophet (PBUH) or Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib (R.A.) that says: "Not necessary to face the Qiblah". Can you quote any Farman of your IMAMS (except the 23rd Imam who was son of a Dai and his NAME is not in the Ismaili Dua Book) that says "Not neccesary to face the Qibla"?
Do you claim one of the Name of Allah refers to Hazrat Ali or to a Manifest Imam of the Ismailis?
Which sect u r belonging to u?
aaa11092 1 month ago
@aaa11092 To Islam based on Quran
mostmerciful999 1 month ago
As a community, we Ismailis help all MUSLIMS: Restoration of Al-Aqsa Mosque, Restoration of Bukhara Old City, Restoration of Amiriya MADRASA, Restoration of Al-Abbas Mosque, Restoration of Mopti's Great Mosque, Restoration of the Humayun's Tomb gardens, The Al-Azhar Park (including the restoration of the 12th Century Ayyubid wall). Go to AKDN.org for more information.
May Allah grant understanding to those who are full of ignorance. Ameen.
With Peace and Love,
Your Ismaili Muslim Brother
princevisram 10 months ago
@princevisram When is Karim Aga Khan going to introduce the Friday Congregation Prayers in his own Prayer Houses?
mostmerciful999 10 months ago
Risky530 Anyone can see that you are running away from the debate and refuse to quote verse 36:12 and 78: 29. So I quote these verses tanslated by Yusuf Ali a Shia: "Verily We shall give life to the dead and We record that which they sent before and that which they leave behind and of all things have We taken account in a clear Book (of evidence)." "And all things have We preserved on record."
DO YOU SEE? WHAT YOU ARE READING IN YOUR ISMAILI DU'A BOOK IS TOTAL FALSEHOOD...
mostmerciful999 10 months ago
@mostmerciful999 Just want 2 know what is u r aqeeda About Shia Ishna Asheri?
aaa11092 1 month ago
@aaa11092 Here is a verse from the Qur'an 6:: 159 "As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair
is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did." Shia Ishna Asheri Mazhab is a Sect.
mostmerciful999 1 month ago
@mostmerciful999 Do u bealive in Imamat or not?
aaa11092 1 month ago
@aaa11092 Shiah and Sunni BOTH are Sects of Islam. Read again verse 6:159
mostmerciful999 1 month ago
where are you sir ...... i think that u r discussing with mullazz go a head when u will complete then tell me
Risky530 10 months ago
if u near to karachi then we should meet or ur partner i should be meet to any of urz person
Risky530 10 months ago
he is not genration of h.z. mohd s.w. if he is genration of h.z.mohd s.w.then y not falow of 5 time namaz and hajj ramdan
and fallow of quran
u r lair ppl .
they r genration of iblees
AHLAYBAIT 10 months ago
@AHLAYBAIT I am NOT an Aga Khani Ismaili any more. I am an EX-Ismaili. Read my Bio-Data at my website
mostmerciful999 10 months ago
from which firqa u link .... i will tell u about ur firqa ....?????
Risky530 10 months ago
@Risky530 First quote the Verses 36:12 and 78: 29. One step at a time.
mostmerciful999 10 months ago
where u from sir ???
its should happened face 2 face ....??
Risky530 10 months ago
@Risky530 You wanted proof from QUR'AN nothing else... There is only One Qur'an in Arabic for the Muslims.
Quote me verses 36:12 and 78:29 in Arabic as the starter...
mostmerciful999 10 months ago
so simple yeah why not.................
but i will accept the proves from QUR'AN nothing else
Risky530 10 months ago
@Risky530 Go ahead and quote the revealed text with Ayat number to prove the Link of Ismaili Imams...
mostmerciful999 10 months ago
there is two type to take knowledge 1 to down the opposite 2 to know about them if ur q is like 1st then i cant answer if the 2nd one then come open challenge to any of u if i will lost i will leave my ismaili firqa if u then what will u do????? what so u say
Risky530 10 months ago
@Risky530 There has to be an uninterrupted LINK of Ismaili Imams "generation after generation" from Imam No. 1 to Imam No.49 as published in Ismaili DU'A Book which is recited in the Ismaili Jamatkhans that is the heart and soul of the LIVING IMAMAT that will continue to the end of the world. Quote their Real Names at their Births, their Real Birth and Death years from History that proves the LINK of the designated IMAMS (Nass) is Direct and Uninterrupted or Unbroken...
mostmerciful999 10 months ago
@Risky530 Are you ready to take that challenge of proving the Ismaili Imamat LINK can be backed by the History?
mostmerciful999 10 months ago
Ismailis are weird............
neonn2 11 months ago
some body have to tell him start giving his young kid,s start giving there parent,s a respect also .start opening there worship place to every body we can see how is your khuda is . do,t called self any thing beside open your chest and show the world how your guy,s are realy. do.t called your self a another muslim branch e do,t belived it ?
urooshahmed 1 year ago
Munafiq.
Bachbaba2 1 year ago
@Bachbaba2 Give reason... I have already replied about the NAMAZ
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 .. why my msg is not been approved which I posted few days back ?? are you scared or if you have some different Agenda??
you really seems to be sick and I again just wanted to convey these lines from Abida parveen song.
" Aray logonnn tumhara kia, Mei janooo mera khuda jaaney ..... Arayy Mullahhh janaza parh, Mei jaanoo mera Khuda jaaney "
sammughal79 1 year ago
@sammughal79 Tell me honestly Who is Your KHUDA? Did he create this Universe? Who created the singer Abida Parveen? Please answer...
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 ... our Allah is the one who created this universe, who created you, who created me, who created Abida Parveen and this whole universe. The one and only God, creator and sustainer of the universe.
sammughal79 1 year ago
@sammughal79 You did not answer my question. It was about Your Khuda...
Do not Ismailis address Karim Aga Khan KHUDAWIND?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@utubegay1 He collects Millions every year and how much he spends? WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTIBILITY FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS???
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
/watch?v=Yl9UQU0_LSM
aahan1 1 year ago
@aahan1 This LINK is broken...
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
Stop bringing discord within the Ummah, when a few of us are trying to reunite the Ummah. Shame on people like yourself. I'm getting a feeling you have a personal agenda here. Hence, you are utilizing Ayats & Hadiths that only suit your needs. Allah (SWT) please help us all from this kind of evilness. Ameen
MagicGenie786 1 year ago
I find it extremely unsettling when the Ummah even though it's divided into 73 different communities has discord within themselves. To condemn goes against Allah (SWT)'s will. Why would you want to do that? You will have to be answerable to Allah (SWT) for attacking an Ahl al Bayat whether you accept him or not. The Holy Prophet (SAW) said out of 73 only one is on the true path, how do you know which faith is on the true path? You can't be sure of that only Allah (SWT) knows.
MagicGenie786 1 year ago
@MagicGenie786 Knowledge of the UNSEEN is with Allah Alone. Qur'an reveals: "Say: "(O' Prophet) I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen I should have multiplied all good and no evil should have touched me I am but a warner and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith." 7: 188. "Lo! As for those who sunder their religion and become schismatics, no concern at all hast thou with them." 6: 159.
JOINING NO SECT IS A TRUE PATH
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
After reading many of the post, it's very obvious that you were an Ismaili, who is no longer, you attacking another faith's Imam is showing that you are a very vindictive person. Which goes against the Muslim faith. Some lady mentioned that you are now a Jew? If that's the case, why are you wasting your energy on the Aga Khan, whom I have read very positive things about. Makes no sense. If you don't want to be in a specific faith, that's your choice but to condemn a man, isn't right.
MagicGenie786 1 year ago
@MagicGenie786 Do you have any PROOF that I am now a Jew... SPEAKING LIES is a major SIN... The issue of this YouTube presentation is about the TALIKA of Karim Aga Khan in 2008 about introducing the Islamic SALAH that was read in most of the Ismaili Jamatkhanas... Tell us: Has Aga Khan sent that Namaz or Salah to his followers? IF NOT... Why and WHEN is the next DATE? This is exposition of the TRUE FACTS. NOT BACK BITING. Today is 23 August 2010... Why are you repeating the same comment???
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 Bismillah. The Ismaili Namaz is to be announced and don't you know its approved ? AgaKhan never said any thing which he can't do. You should check out the history.
Bachbaba2 1 year ago
@Bachbaba2 Why is Namaz not yet IMPLIMENTED? WHO is higher than Imam in your community? Should not Karim Aga Khan be LEADING THE PRAYER as a
Living IMAM? The Announcement was made in 2008 now it is 2010. You check the records
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
Backbiting and Slandering (Cont'd)
In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful
Subhanallah, it’s a common disease in our society, people backbite a lot knowingly and unknowingly. Backbiting is very dangerous. We should avoid talking about people behind their back completely. If we see someone talking evil about someone we should remind them that backbiting is a very severe sin and it will lead to a severe punishment.
MagicGenie786 1 year ago
@MagicGenie786 The UNPARDONABLE sin is SHIRK...
Doing Daw'ah and showing the TRUTH is NOT Backbiting.
I take my ow time to reply at this age...
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
Facing Qibla while praying
(Sura 2(Al- Baqrah) Aayat 142 Allah said "
"The fools among the people would say,"Why did they change the direction of their Qiblah?"*Say, "To GOD belongs the east and the west;He guides whoever wills in a straight path."
MagicGenie786 1 year ago
@MagicGenie786 The Qur'an "So from whencesoever thou startest forth turn thy face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque; among wheresoever ye are turn your face thither that there be no ground of dispute against you among the people except those of them that are bent on wickedness; so fear them not but fear Me; and that I may complete My favors on you and ye may (consent to) be guided."
Qur'an Sura 2, Verse 150. Should NOT one warn people who DO NOT FACE the Direction of Sacred Mosque?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
And do not drive away those who call upon their Lord in the morning and the evening, they desire only His favor; neither are you answerable for any reckoning of theirs, nor are they answerable for any reckoning of yours, so that you
should drive them away and thus be of the unjust.
... (52) Surat al-Anam
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Now let's see how Mr. "mostmerciful" Obeys the holy book. I bet he knows who calls upon their Lord in the morning and evening
sabzalish 1 year ago
@sabzalish I suggest you to visit my website and read my article
mostmerciful/obeying-decrees-determined.
It upholds the Verse 6: 52. Also read my articles on the Realities of Our Daily Prayers
Once one Learns the TRUTH REVEALED BY ALLAH one has to discard the earlier beliefs that were misleading. Pagan Arabs became Muslims once they heard the verses of the Quran. The major unresolved issue is with the Recited Text of the Ismaili Dua in Jamatkhanas. Hence the need of SALAH.
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
I find Youtube quite interesting. Why does the author of the video have to reply for my comment to be posted? I would love to keep my conversation open with this man but my last comment never got posted!
iringa77 1 year ago
@iringa77 You make provocating comments about the author and expect him to ignore your comments about my sanity!!! You get upset if your comments are NOT posted as soon as you post them... That's the proof of your state of mind...
JUST STAY ON THE TOPIC....
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
You are making an assumption that I am a practicing Ismaili because I am from Africa and I am challenging you. Did I bruise your fragile ego? Your ramblings on You Tube have never really been about educating the Ismailis but rather about fulfiling some sick need in yourself. Frankly at this point I am not only questioning your motive but also your sanity. I wonder did you get all your "education" in a madrassa or did you in fact attend an educational institution?
iringa77 1 year ago
You are living in the age of darkness in the world of organised religion. Who really cares where one faces while praying? What personal need are you trying to gratify by spewing hatred from the confines of your comfortable home? Again; look within and if I may suggest; personal counselling may be of assistance to you.
iringa77 1 year ago
@iringa77 Who created YOU? If your Answer is ALLAH (not Karim Aga Khan) then your that Creator ALLAH is calling YOU "are bent on wickedness"....
Read the verse of the QURAN quoted earlier. DID NOT your Imam KARIM AGA KHAN DECLARE "Word of the Qur'an is the Word of God" in 2002 in USA?
IS your Leader Karim Aga Khan living in the age of darkenss?? And is USA a dark country like AFRICA. Is not Iringa a town in Africa???
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
Again; you are not anwering my question. Why are you so fixated on Ismailis when you should be focussing on "you"? You are probably focussing outside of yourself because it is too scary for you to look within yourself? Instead of focussing on a religion; any religion for that matter, how about focussing on performing good deeds?
iringa77 1 year ago
@iringa77 Agakhani ISMAILIS is the ONLY Muslim Sect that DOES NOT FACE THE DIRECTION OF SACRED MOSQUE in Mekkah while praying. Read following TEXT from verse 2: 150 of Quran. "So from whencesoever thou startest forth turn thy face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque; among wheresoever ye are turn your face thither that there be no ground of dispute against you among the people except those of them that are bent on wickedness." Is it NOT A GOOD DEED showing misguided Ismailis ALLAH'S TRUTH?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
Ismailism is pathetic. Muslims were commanded to pray 1400 years ago. And now the Aga Khan thinks he can make up a rule were he tells everyone to pray by the end of 2009? Plus you are supposed to pray 5 times a day not 3. People who follow this faith must be in it for the money.
jihadifanclub 1 year ago
You come across as an individual struggling with your own demons. Why not invite goodness in your life instead of spewing hatred? Frankly why are you doing this?
iringa77 1 year ago
@iringa77 Qur'an Sura 103 : Verses 1 to 3: "By the declining day,
Lo! man is in a state of loss, Save those who believe and do good works, and exhort one another to truth and exhort one another to endurance."
Frankly, to obey our Creator... IN 2002 Karim Aga Khan declared in Huston, Texas, USA "The word of Qur'an is the Word of God" at the opening of the Ismaili Jamatkhana.... Do you consider spreading the Word of OUR Creator is "spewing hatred?"
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 "SATAN MAKES THEM PROMISES, AND CREATES IN THEM FALSE DESIRES ; BUT SANATs PROMISES ARE NOTHING BUT DECEDPTION..4/120
0991786 1 year ago
Oh old man. why are u getting slim on thinking of Ismaili religion. You have quit Ismaili , then suni, then christian. Now you are fetching money from Jews. Fool people giving you money. continue. How many years you will live more ?
razia50 1 year ago
@razia50 Everyone knows who is one of the richest person on this earth and where he gets his money from... Hold tight to your own wallet raziabibi...
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@0991786 Do not repeat the same comment
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 .-They have their own sustainer,and cheiresher aga khan,who send them rozi on 23rd of march naoroze every year which they keep in their treassury, and bank safe deposit.
0991786 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 .-Yes sir two man, aga khan his brother ,and his daughter make an excellent,holly hoax trinity for the divinity to fool ismailis.
0991786 1 year ago
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0991786 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 .-Aga khan is sustainer of this bunch of mushrik ismailis,who send him ROZI on the 23rd march NAO ROZE of every year which they keep in their treasury, bank safe deposit and kiss it every now and then.
0991786 1 year ago
The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: "I am leaving for you two precious and weighty Symbols that if you adhere to BOTH of them you shall not go astray after Me. They are, the Book of Allah, and my Progeny, that is my Ahlul-Bayt. The Merciful (Allah) has informed me that these two shall not separate from each other till they come to Me by the Pool (of Paradise)." Sahih al Tirmidhi, v5, pp 662-663 (This is an authentic Sunni source)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheSultanKarim 1 year ago
@TheSultanKarim Was Tirmidhi Shia or Sunni when he died? If he was a Sunni, then that clearly shows he was not the COLLECTOR of that Saying or Tirmidhi did not have faith in what has been attributed in his name... If he was a Shiah then that is NOT A SUNNI SOURCE !!!!!!!
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
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0991786 1 year ago
You have not posted the Hadith of Prophetmohammed (PBUH). Post the truth. It the authentic Sunni source. Do not filter my comments. I WORSHIP the Aga Khan. Let the truth be know.
TheSultanKarim 1 year ago
@TheSultanKarim I worship the ONE Who Created the Aga Khan..
You calim the Hadith recorded by TIRMIDHI as the SAYING OF THE PROPHET, IF Tirmidhi was the True Believer of the Prophet, and the Hadith is authentic then why did Tirmidhi himself did NOT become a SHIAH MUSLIM?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: "I am leaving for you two precious and weighty Symbols that if you adhere to BOTH of them you shall not go astray after Me. They are, the Book of Allah, and my Progeny, that is my Ahlul-Bayt. The Merciful (Allah) has informed me that these two shall not separate from each other till they come to Me by the Pool (of Paradise)." Sahih al Tirmidhi, v5, pp 662-663 (Authentic Sunni source)
TheSultanKarim 1 year ago
@TheSultanKarim There TWO other Versions with the same reference. You have quoted by those who followed Hazrat Ali (as). Those who follow the SUNNI Tariqah refers to leaving behind the Qur'an and his SUNNAH. And there are others that speaks of leaving behind the QUR'AN only. Follow the Qur'an 6: 159: "As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did."
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 "Verily God preferred Adam, Noah and the family of Ibrahim and Imran above all His creatures. Offsprings, one of the other." Quran 3:33-34 The Aga Khan is the direct descedant of Ibrahim.
TheSultanKarim 1 year ago
@TheSultanKarim Was not The Aga Khan III the direct descendant of Aga Khan I ?
In his auto-biography and before the High CourtS in India he AK I admitted being an
ITHNA-ASHRI SHIAH WHO FOLLOW IMAM MUSA KAZIM... Read your own history book... Imam Ismail dies before the death of his father Jaffer Sadiq read the History BOOK THE ISMAILIS by Farhad Daftary a relative of Aga Khan...
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
Post my comment. Be fearless. You are afraid.
TheSultanKarim 1 year ago
@TheSultanKarim I have posted your earlier comment and also my response to it.
Hope to hear from you an honest answer that proves there is The Truth in your comment.
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
he is the imam of the time he has complete authority on our lives if he says stop breathing we all will stop we dont question his authority he is our beloved imam
if he says no prayers we wont say prayers if he says offer namaz we will do that
that should it make it clear for every one
raxid123 1 year ago
@raxid123 Who is your Creator and Sustainer? Why NOT recite THERE IS NO GOD BUT THE KARIM AGAKHAN in your Ismaili Daily Dua?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
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0991786 1 year ago
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0991786 1 year ago
@raxid123 .-If your beloved imam askyou tyo jump over the river ,will you jump,stop heckles, like your ancesters, Do you thinkthat whatever aga khan say is accepted.
0991786 1 year ago
When did the Aga Khan ever say that the Namaz will REPLACE the dua. He did say that he will approve a textof namaz, but when did it replace the dua... Never has that been said by Aga Khan. Even though you think it would be nice in your views, we cannot assume this.. so that when it is not replaced you can say that the Aga Khan never kept his word when he never said anything about eliminating the holy dua.
MrAlnoor786 1 year ago
@MrAlnoor786 Try to remember; the Late Aga Khan 3rd introduced the ARABIC Dua and replaced the GUJRATI Dua. Did anyone recite that Gujrati Dua after the introduction of the Arabic Dua? You yourself admit that Karim Aga Khan did say he was to APPROVE THE TEXT OF NAMAZ FOR HIS FOLLOWERS and that was in 2008. THE QUESTION IS "WHERE IS THAT TEXT OF THE NAMAZ TODAY IN 2010? CANNOT HE HIMSELF MAKE THE TEXT OF THE DAILY PRAYER FOR HIS FOLLOWERS?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
Your arguments are very trivial and hard to accept in rational ways....I am sorry about all your discussion.Instead of admiring whole world's humanity you under-estimate others......the reason of your personal grievance,
LET ME ASK YOU..DO U THINK ALL SECTS IN ISLAM ARE DOING SAME..COMMON OR WHICH ONE is RIGHT?
YOU SHOULD TRY TO BUILD A GOOD IMAGE OF ISLAM THAN CREATING HATRED AND DIFFERENCES, THOSE WHO FOLLOW UR ADVOCACY. SEE AROUND YOU. HOW THEY ARE PERCEIVED IN TODAY"S TIME
tasawar79 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 you are truly mistaken as you will see soon enough. im am not talking about what has happened once in our history. The Namaz will be introduced for ismailis that live along with other Nonismailis and have to pray with them due to their demographics, Or for ismailis so that they can pray with their nonismaili brothers and sisters if they are in a time and setting of prayer. The dua will remain compulsory for ismailis...if you don't agree with it now, you will see soon enough.
MrAlnoor786 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999, You have chasing your own tail getting nowhere. Mralnoor786 challenged to show where in the Taliqa he said he was going to replace Dua with Namaz. Finding yourself at your wits end, you twist the argument and go back to the time of Imam Sultan Mohd Shah (A.S). Stick to the core of the argument and don't beat around the bush. That said I have told you before since you are not an Ismaili anymore, why poke your dirty nose in our affairs. Our Bayah it to the Imam and not to you!
meswani 1 year ago
@meswani ALL the Ismailis Lied about the FARMAN/TALIKA for the coming of Namaz? Since it has not yet come WHO LIED? On the Great Day who will protect you? Better wake up...
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostpitiful, I sense desperation in your "argument by vehemence": your comments appear noisy, shallow, incoherent and will make a baby look like an Einstein when searching "rationalization" in your babbling. Read again what MrAlnoor786 and I said. Second or third time may be a charm if you tried hard. I would hold my breath on this though. Have you finally figured out which foot to wash first during WUDU; left or right? spend your time practicing that.
meswani 1 year ago
@meswani NAMAZ that was to come in 2009 HAS NOT COME. Today is May 24, 2010. So the real sense of Desperation, Disappointment and Devastation is for YOU the HARD LINED follower of the One who has sent the TALIKA/FARMAN of sending the NAMAZ. Now tell the viewers Karim Aga Khan NOT atall sent that Farman of the NAMAZ....
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostpitiful, I sense desperation in your "argument by vehemence": your comments appear noisy, shallow, incoherent and will make a baby look like an Einstein when searching "rationalization" in your babbling. Read again what MrAlnoor786 and I said. Second or third time may be a charm if you tried hard. I would not hold my breath on this though. Have you finally figured out which foot to wash first during WUDU; left or right? spend your time practicing that.
meswani 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 .-they dont believe even on the Great Day.
0991786 1 year ago
I agree with you MrAlnoor......
what ever, whether its Arabic, Gujarati or Persian.....Imam of the time has authority to amend the things....
Mr mostmerciful (his real name Akber Ali) knows about it clearly......It is his personal grievances.
tasawar79 1 year ago
@MrAlnoor786 DID HE SAY he will give NAMAZ? WHERE IS THAT NAMAZ?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999, Meherally read our lips "WHY ARE YOU SO ANTSY AND FIDGETY? THE IMAM AT HIS SOLE DISCRETION MAY OR OTHERWISE NOT GIVE US THE NAMAZ. IF YOU ARE NOT AN ISMAILI ANYMORE, MORE POWER TO YOU. RELAX AND FOLLOW YOUR FAITH AS WE HOLD NOTHING AGAINST THOSE RENOUNCING THEIR BAYYAH TO HAZAR IMAM AS INSTRUCTED BY HIM" Hope that penetrates your head once for all. Keep my fingers crossed!
meswani 1 year ago
@meswani Aga Khan One was staunch Ithna'ashri (12er) and he admits in his autobiobraphy IBRAT AFSHA. Aga Khan 3rd amitted in his Memoirs his parents were Ithnaa'ashris. He used to go to Imamwada in Bombay for Matam with other Twelvers. When Haji Bibi filed a Law Suit he changed his FAITH and became the Living Imam. And thereafter he made Farmans against the Faith he had left. Read his writings in the Memoir about the Tariqah he had left.
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@MrAlnoor786 WHERE IS THAT APPROVED TEXT OF NAMAZ? It was to come in 2009...
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@MrAlnoor786 Where is that TEXT?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
Nothing is permanent in our existence except change......And God also never likes stagnant life.....Use your rationality......If God has to impose one belief, why He keeps sending his representatives on earth with new laws, regulations and divine guidance...
I read in Najul Balagha that Prophet Mohammad referred that His life was struggling with Exoteric meaning of Quran and he referred towards Ali (AS) that He will fight His whole life for Esoteric meaning of Quran.
tasawar79 1 year ago
@tasawar79 Allah keeps on sending His Progressive Divine Guidance and Instructions through His chosen Messengers for the mankind whose duty was to spread the Allah's Revealed Message Clearly and Openly. Ali (a.s.) never claimed that Allah's Message was also sent to him through Angel Gabriel as it was Revealed to Prophet Muhamed (s.a.s.) and those who came before him like Jesus, Moses and other Prophets (peace be upon them), mentioned in the Qur'an.
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@tasawar79 .-stop heckles,Quran and Allahs law are forever, and unchangable.five fundaments of Islam straigt from begining since 1400 hundred years are unchageable,and you cannot subsitute it with your fabricated fake,fetched, imams aga khan,vali khan,and kuli khan whome you worship in your kenejr khanas.
0991786 1 year ago
the aga khan is a scam artist and a con man. he is a cult leader who scams the poor followers in poor countries like india, pakistan and tajikistan out of their money, while running off with blonde women and living like a wealthy billionaire in france off of THEIR money. i mean if agha khanis want to part with their money, they can always give it to me, i mean why should he get it?? =) how stupid some people can be is beyond me. its a cult and nothing more.
xgotfiveonitx 1 year ago
@xgotfiveonitx .-He will never intoduce islamic namaz salat in his chandoo khanas, because by doing so he will loss about hundred and fifity million pound daily income from idiot ismailis,all over the world ,from various fake religious tax and DUA KERAVO CHATTA NEKHAO MEHMANI KHATO NANDI etc.
0991786 1 year ago
God listens to the prayers of the Christians, the Jews, the Muslims, the Hindus, the Buddhists, etc. "SeyedIranian" you are narrow minded. Islam is not the first religion. The introduction of God to mankind has existed for over 5000 years since the time of Hinduism. Do you actually believe that God listens to only one particular prayer that you subscribe to? And that God has only been listening for 1400 years? You are definitely an IGNORANT man. God in His infinite mercy is PLURALISTIC.
SafiraAbraham 1 year ago
God listens to the prayers of the Christians, the Jews, the Muslims, the Hindus, the Buddhists, etc. "SeyedIranian" you are narrow minded. Islam is not the first religion. The introduction of God to mankind has existed for over 5000 years since the time of Hinduism. Do you actually believe that God listens to only one particular prayer that you subscribe to? And that God has only been listening for 1400 years? You are definitely an IGNORANT man. God in His infinite mercy is PLURALISTIC.
SafiraAbraham 1 year ago
...Quran is a holy book to inspire us; NOT limit us. Fools fail to connect with Allah in their hearts, deafly and blindly arguing and trying to explain every aspect of belief from centuries old Quran. This is the kind of Blindness and Deafness Allah warns us about. Your heart knows and sees beyond any spoken language can communicate. Spoken languages have limitations. By His limitless Mercy, Allah has blessed us with closeness and equalness which we ignore by limiting ourselves....
bmmomin 1 year ago
when the changes going to come in ismaislis about new Namaz
Curiousquest2 1 year ago
@Curiousquest2 You better ask the Leader of the Ismailis... He lives in France.
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999
0991786 1 year ago
There was no command and there will be no changes. It was just a rumour.
khalil5247 1 year ago
@khalil5247 Is the Imam real?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
when the changes coming to ismailisam that there prayers has change to sunni muslim.
Curiousquest2 1 year ago
what the recent devepoments of changin from the dua to namaz .and i will love to hear ,beuause there were to be changing.
Curiousquest2 1 year ago
If you get a reply from any Ismaili website or their net, let me know...
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@Curiousquest2 That was a bluf of aga khan,neither he nor ismailis are true and serious in this case.Aga khan is lying to other muslim ummah.
0991786 1 year ago
@Curiousquest2 .-I am waiting to hear a sweet sound of "AZAAN"
From the ISMAILI JAMAT KAHANS.-Inshah Âllah.-
0991786 1 year ago
@0991786 MAY BE ONE OF THE NEXT IMAMS TO COME will himself give the Azaan
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 .-Sir.-are yousure that next imam will himself Azaan or disco dance-
0991786 1 year ago
@0991786 I wrote Next Imams (plural) to come. Islam will Insha'Allah prevail...
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
it is said in Quran that those who are dump and deep we should not preach them beause Allahswt then why are you pushing luck and see look at thing which are wrong in muslim community where they do not know where to bury the newly embranced non beliver to give proper answer where the person is going to be buried instead you are just talking about the differenrces and comparasion..do some thing that people can rememebr you after you gone and advise them but stop on compariasion.
Curiousquest2 2 years ago
@Curiousquest2 .-They even do not know Fatiah after on dead bodies,and sparkes water on dead bodies asking aga khan to forgive sins of dead
0991786 1 year ago
@0991786 Who sprinkled the water on the past 47 Imams and who could forgive their sins. Please reply after reading Qur'an Verse 3: 135
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 .-Really i dont know who sprinked water on 47 imams, but i know aga khan 3rd was sprinked by the ismaili mukhi,and sir ONLY ALLAH CAN FORGIVE SINS, AS A ES ISMAILI ICONFIRM IT FROM Quranic verse-3/135,and fully agree with you.
0991786 1 year ago
@0991786 Please read it as the 48th Imam
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
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0991786 1 year ago
why muslim are not coperative in answering the question in bc vancouver
Curiousquest2 2 years ago
why muslim are not coperative in answering some of the issue ,.
Curiousquest2 2 years ago
I am an Ismaili Muslim and extremely proud to be one. Ismailis respect pluralism and diversity regardless of your religious persuasion. The Aga Khan is improving the quality of life of all peoples in the world's poorest countries regardless of race, color,or ethnicity, e.g., Aga Khan schools, Aga Khan hospitals are institutions that operate on a no profit and no dividend policy. The Aga Khan follows both The Quran and Our Beloved Prophet (PBUH). He is authentic Islam. Follow His example.
TheSultanKarim 2 years ago
@TheSultanKarim.- Charity does not override the religious duty of any one. we know his charity,but FROM WHERE THE MONEY COME. IT IS NOT HIS MONEY,BUT PAID BY ISMAILIS IN SHAPEOF VARIOUS RELIGIOUS TAXES,I.E 12.50% DASOOND ON GROSS INCOME PLUS GIVEN BY INTERNATIONAL WORLD NGOs
0991786 1 year ago
@0991786 Ophra Winfry; Warren Buffet and Bill Gates would make an excellent HOLY TRINITY if CHARITY was the basic Criteria for THE DIVINITY. Two Men and One Woman, so MEN could over-rule WOMEN !!! Is not God the Father of Jesus a Male entity for more than two billion followers?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@TheSultanKarim If Karim Aga Khan is sincerely promoting PLURALISM and truly following Our Prophet when is he going to LEAD THE FRIDAY Prayers and deliver
the Khutbahs where ALL MUSLIMS living in his home town near Paris in France can partake and learn Islam from this LIVING IMAM-e-MUBIN?
mostmerciful999 1 year ago
@mostmerciful999 .-Well said i also anxiously waiting to pray friday prayer behind ismaili imam and hear the friday Khuteba from him.-
0991786 1 year ago
@TheSultanKarim .-Aga khan improving the life of poor all over the world where.-?,and it does not mean that his help to poor, should override his religious duty. Tell me what is his religion.-Have you seen him any time inany mosque,mandir,church or in your ownismaili jamat khans offeringyou dua-?
0991786 1 year ago
thanks for posting .
Curiousquest2 2 years ago
It is Allah SWT who first instructed Prophet Muhammad to offer Namaz during the Miraaj journey. And only now Ismailis are going to do namaz after the Aga Khan has told them to do so???
0Narmak0 2 years ago
@0Narmak0 Don't hold your breath on this
meswani 1 year ago
@0Narmak0 < Don't hold your breath on that
meswani 1 year ago
@0Narmak0 .-No never this is all fraud.,to shut yhe non ismailis.
0991786 1 year ago
So you guys believe in reincarnation?
0Narmak0 2 years ago
why it is taking longer ismailiasm to change thier prayers .
Curiousquest2 2 years ago
The Old Guards who hold the Titles, Leadership and Clouts within their Society and the positions within the Jamatkhanas are too strong. Coming of Namaz means the end of their hierachy.
ALL WILL BE EQUAL...
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
When you refer Quranic verse 4:59....why not we inquire for the third important element mention by Allah. We believe on God, Phophet and then where are the individuals who got divine authority. If u interpret remaining part...it is same situation like Prophet Muhammad's time few followed him and rest denied him.
tasawar79 2 years ago
The Verse continues further with "And...."
Please quote the complete VERSE as revealed?
The revealed text has word "authorities" in plural and not the "divine authority".
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
I appreciate the discussion! You can not deny the reality that prophet mentioned about the creation of further sects in Islam. 2ndly, one needs to affirm with his/ her understanding, why to impose on others, it means there is some thing missing inside and not clarity like the guy speaks in this video.
tasawar79 2 years ago
Here is what our Creator has revealed:
"As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did." Qur'an 6: 159
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
Mr. Meherally, change your name to meherallah. Also, it is "SHIRK" to have a name of mostmerciful999. Allah soley is Most Merciful and putting 999 after that makes it even a bigger "SHIRK". FYI I am not an Aga Khani.
meswani 2 years ago
The TRUTH comes out from your writtings... Read YOU have addressed me as "Mr. Meherally" and that's my name.... Are you denying what YOU have stated???
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
Mr Meherally Akbaralley - your problem is that you're our from ONE SHELL and are dumped into another DARK SHELL. In the name of fairness and due respect, I give you a full credit for writing " The History of Agakhani Ismail'is" [ available online on your web page]. According to your book "not even a single Ismail'i practice is compatible to Sharia" .
Why you're wasting your time, then? Is there a need to clarify that the Ismail'is do not face " QIBLA" when jamatkhana is a KUFARKHANA?
BEONTHERIGHTPATH 2 years ago
Thank you for seeing how bias this man is... he clearly is someone who is only willing to except one ray of light from the sun.....
May god help you on the day of judgment
unknownballa77 2 years ago
i wonder why ismailis do not face qibla for 363 days of the year but 2 days of idd in a year suddenly their argument of chapter 2 verse 142 reverses and they offer salah like the rest of 99 percent muslim ummah... strange isnt it !!!!
salimrupani1 2 years ago
More STRANGE is that ALL their Imams starting from Ali a.s. (except for the 23rd Imam Hasan who was a son of a Dai named Muhammad) have been facing qibla while praying...
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
When you prepare for prayer it is not righteousness that you turn your faces towards east or West, but it is righteousness, to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers
Qur'an [2:177250]
sonagoli 2 years ago
Produce your Proof that Karim Aga Khan is the Master of the Qur'an and his words are ABOVE THE WORDS OF ALLAH...
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
As a former Ismaili Muslim yourselves, you should know the entire verse!
Considering your past I'd really question your allegiance to the Sunni interpretation of Islam?
You made your choice but what is your remarkable achievement beside spreading Nefaq, hatred and false and immoral accusations?
Even as a Sunni Muslim you should know what Allah SWT says about the Fitnas and what their punishment would look like?!!!
Dariosh1984 2 years ago
Quote me the what Allah SWT has revealed....
However, here is a quote from the Qur'an Chapter 25, Verse 52, Translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali: "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness with the (Qur'an)."
Why do the Ismailis believe NOT their Creator Allah and Face the Direction of the SACRED MOSQUE while praying as Commanded by the Creator in Chapter 2, Verse 150? IF their IMAM says face that Direction & recite Islamic Salah they would do.
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
As a former Ismaili Muslim yourselves, you should know the entire verse.considering your passt I'd really question your allegiance
Dariosh1984 2 years ago
Do you actually know, why Allah changed the qibla from Jerusalem to mekka?
What else is the significance of Kaaba beside the fact that it was built by Hazrat Ibrahim and Ali ibne Abi Talib (saa) was born in it?
Why we are calling it the house of God?
Dariosh1984 2 years ago
When Ali ibne Abi Talib (as) was born, the Kaaba was the Pagan Sanctuarry with more than 300 Pagan Idols inside that House of Pagans... More importantly. quote from an authentic published history book that records his birth INSIDE this sanctuary where the Pagans were Praying to their Idols... How can a child birth - an event that needs PRIVACY, happened in a Pagan Temple with Pagans Dancing?
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
You'll receive them by email because this window lacks the capacity, and please have the courtesy to present them factually and in wholeness with out scotch taping your wishful comments.
Dariosh1984 2 years ago
Wudu's philosophy: cleansing from the sweaty, stinky smell of the foot, genitals...
Safeguarding a man's dignity by commanding of Wudu and the reward of forgiveness till the next Wudu.
He'd rather emphasize Ghusul and I totally agree .
Allah SWT: .... wa ulel amri menkom"
Obey also the Amirul momenin!
Please show me that one who is not prejudicing, selfish, ignorant, peaceloving...and a true guide of Momenin? because you could not be the one for me.
Wake up it is 21 century
Fulling around = No
Dariosh1984 2 years ago
Quote me the entire verse about "wa ulel amri menkom" Obey also the Amirul momenin!" as it is revealed and recorded in the Qur'an... I hope you will come back without FOOLING AROUND...
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
I have never claimed to be an Imam...
Since you did NOT quote the Revealed Verse from the Qur'an as requested and Ismailis do RECITE the EDITED TEXT in their Dua, let me quote the ENTIRE VERSE below:
"O ye who believe! obey Allah and obey the Apostle and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves refer it to Allah and His Apostle if ye do believe
in Allah and the Last Day: that is best and most suitable for final determination." Chapter (4) Verse 59
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
Thank you for bringing this up in your own writing:
"and those charged with authority among you"
Now please answer me the following questions|:
1, Who do you think is suitable to the above described Authority and in charge of the matter of faith?
2, I am an uneducated lonely desert dweller in a Sahara without any compass and I also do not know about the northern stars, how can I face qibla?
I landed on the moon, how can I face Qibla?
and so on 'n on....
Dariosh1984 2 years ago
As an Agakhani Ismaili you believe in the early part of Verse 4; 59 and insist upon others to believe that portion. BUT you do not even wish to pay attention to the rest of the same Verse which clearly Reveals: "and if you have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end."HENCE, when Allah Commands in Verse 2: 150: FACE THE DIRECTION OF SACRED MOSQUE WHILE PRAYING Ismailis disobey.
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
you should clearly know what we think about Aga Khan ( Shah Karim Al Husaini Hazir Imam), must be no ambiguity in your mind you may also visit to your family graveyard and ask them what they think about him and they also told you that they believe in
HAQ TO PAK TO YA SHAH MEHARBAN TO HI TO
believe me its not my poety its the oldest poetry in Sindhi Language now you need to change the poetry or you know the truth is always trut. take good care of yourself
hunzukus 2 years ago
Sorry I don't believe the people in the graves can respond after decades...
You better take care of the livings...
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
Neither you nor I have to figure out the rest of the Message. It is revealed what follows and I quote the Qur'an: "We see the turning of thy face (for guidance) to the heavens; now shall We turn thee to a Qiblah that shall please thee. Turn then thy face in the direction of the Sacred
Mosque; wherever ye are turn your faces in that direction. The people of the book know well that that is the truth from their Lord nor is Allah unmindful of what they do." Qur'an 2: 144.THE TRUTH ALWAYS TRIUMPHS
mostmerciful999 2 years ago
Can you please quote the Sayings of the Prophet (PBUH) or Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib (R.A.) that says: "Not necessary to face the Qiblah". Can you quote any Farman of your IMAMS (except the 23rd Imam who was son of a Dai and his NAME is not in the Ismaili Dua Book) that says "Not neccesary to face the Qibla"?
Do you claim one of the Name of Allah refers to Hazrat Ali or to a Manifest Imam of the Ismailis?
mostmerciful999 2 years ago