Richard Dawkins vs Bill O'Reilly 10 9 09 - feel free to comment

[EpicAthiest]

Dawkins needs to do as Hitchens does - if the idiot tries to talk over you, don't wait for him.

[SpencerBenedict2nd]

Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations

Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating

The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible

Papal Rome cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM until Bible is destroyed

[InfoDav]

I'm always mind-blown that americans allows such idiots to work for a news channel. It couldn't possibly happen here in canada (at least in Quebec) or in europe.

[sgtslaughterify]

in biblical times people tried to use reason to answer a question. but they stopped on the first step. its like they had a brainstorm exercise and settled on the first suggestion. that suggestion is still clinging to life today, it is religion

[crazypdj]

Jesus is a negative argument: "You can't explain it, therefore Jesus. Now I need to go blow up a plane and kill someone who doesn't believe in what I do."

[12OC4EVER798]

would you listen to me and stop shouting at me.

[BRadLikesGirls]

bill o reilly is a fucking idiot

[RevNTheogen]

How is this guy still on T.V?? This is not reporting.

FYI Bill - 5 generations later you are not Irish, you are American who is descended from Irish stock.

[DavieS993]

LOL Richard is like;

"LOL waht?....Pfft....Americans."

[Kyntteri1]

Ah yes the Faux news. News for the ignorant and willingly stupid in the america... and sadly, the rest of the world morons like it too.

[Geertpieter]

How is it posibble that Bill O'Reilly has so manny viewers in America?

[MrNaturalMan]

@Geertpieter He isn't political correct and that is worth so much! Rather an idiot then a dubious person ...

[Geertpieter]

@MrNaturalMan

Thats the best explanation for the Crisis in America i heard in weeks ;)

[Anon12356]

you guys don't make up shit based on no evidence so that gives me reason to believe in my shit with no evidence. makes perfect sense.

[Jonstern1983]

Really? So creating life saving drugs, discovering our ancestry, and developing cleaner and longer lasting forms of energy is not moralistically forthright?

[smacktalking]

there is absolutely no evidence that god is real, yet there is some evidence to support atheist's. Why do Christians even bother?

[DeusImperium]

fox news is a propaganda toilet with their lead rectum spewing his verbal feces. Truth is spoken word and is open to conjecture, whereas facts are irrefutable. It gets harder in this country as a non-believer due to the number of fantasy bearing nut-jobs that refuse to grasp reality. It's true they don't believe in evolution, they have all been devolving for decades.

[Sunneyskys]

Tell 'em Bill! ;)

[MidnightMasquerader3]

Bill O'Reilly doesn't make any damn sense!!!!

[anthony1832]

"You guys can't tell me how it all got here" Because "you guys" don't make up fictitious stories and claim them to be the truth.

[kenocartel]

this atheist fuckwit wants to arrest the pope...this guy's a silly douche

[OhReallyNoWai]

@kenocartel the pope is protecting pedophiles, who's the silly douche again?

[kenocartel]

@OhReallyNoWai you, if you think the pope should be arrested...

[Entertainmentwf]

@kenocartel fail... get into reality. He was not. He was saying he was eligible to.

[digitised]

@kenocartel He wants to see this man on trial for protecting pedophiles.

I happen to strongly agree, not because he is a religious leader of significance, but because he aided in the abuse of children and has given dangerous child predators another chance to re-offend.

If person X wants to abuse children, then the catholic church stands as an active haven that will protect him from prosecution to save its own name. This has to stop and the pope abused his position to thwart justice.

[kenocartel]

@digitised the pope wasnt directly responsible for the molestations nor was he part of a cover-up...his only crime is being associated with catholicism which is a standard the nazi richard dawkins feels is adequate to send people to prison for...if being associated with an organization which inadvertantly has corrupt elements in it is a standard by which people can be imprisoned for, then barack obama should be arrested immediately

[GyroCoder]

I'm really not sure if it's O'Reilly or Glenn Beck who holds the world FPS* record, but one of them does.

*Facepalms Per Second.

[RyeWhiskeyBand]

Bill O'Reilly VS Richard Dawkins=[Bill O'Reilly THE WINNER]

[OhReallyNoWai]

@RyeWhiskeyBand oh yeah, not to mention it is not live, they can cut and paste whatever they like, and I don't think they want Bill to lose an argument on his own show... DUH!

[Entertainmentwf]

@RyeWhiskeyBand Please learn how to use an equals sign properly.

[smsm032]

Richard tried to speak within O'Reilly, to people who watch this program.

[Mad1093]

I feel sorry for Dawkins. Why does he even bother? He is just wasting his time on the retard that is O'Reilly.

[pyroviper]

If everyone followed the teachings of Christ? Bill O'Reilly needs to shape up and read his Bible a bit more looking at his record for hostility and intolerance.

Two fools = very entertaining bit

[kbon54]

geez Oreilly is a hit and run, shoot and dodge type of debater with Dawkins, and wasnt very respectful at all

[retnuHDJ]

Bill.... What is taught in the classroom, is stuff that has already been PROVEN. Therefore, yes, we should leave religion out of the classroom.

Don't know why Dawkins' didn't just spell it out for him :/

[retnuHDJ]

Why in EVERY interview with Dawkins, does the person he is interviewing say something UNBELIEVABLY stupid.

[KiwiChristian]

I do like the argument of Bill O'Reilly.

And it seems Richards only argument is its either science or religion. Why cant it be both?

[retnuHDJ]

Because science requires (and is based on) evidence. Religion has none. You could argue the existence of Santa almost as well as you could God.

[KiwiChristian]

@retnuHDJ lol - who ever said there is no evidence for God?

Also the New Testament is historical narrative, tracing the life and events of a persons life.

Santa is based on a real person and you can read about that person just as you can read about Christ.

PS where is the evidence that shows life can come from non-life???

[retnuHDJ]

Would you consider, say, a single carbon atom to be life?

[KiwiChristian]

lol, ok, nice theory, popular one too.

And "a single carbon atom" is not life, sorry.

So do you have any evidence life can come from non-life?

[retnuHDJ]

That wasn't what I meant. I wasn't saying a single carbon atom is life. It ISN'T life, that's my point. But we are made up of these atoms, and really what I meant is, at what point would you consider a collection of atoms life? Bacteria stage? Small animal stage?

[retnuHDJ]

Also, no, there isn't any good evidence for God. Best arguments left are intelligent design, and they simply don't stand up to scrutiny.

[KiwiChristian]

Good to see im talking to a person with an open mind and an objective state of mind.

I have evidence for you, just just let me know when your up to hearing it.

[retnuHDJ]

Er I AM open-minded actually. I have just never EVER heard a convincing argument for the existence of God.

And yes, I am definately up for hearing what evidence you have.

Also, I Have to ask, were you raised a Christian or did you convert? Assuming you believe in the Christian God that is. And do you have any reason to believe Christianity over other religions?

Just so you know, I was raised a Christian, but not in a big way. But I definitely DID believe in God as some point.

[KiwiChristian]

If you were truly open minded you would not have been so closed off because the fact is you have not heard all the evidences for God yet.

I was born and raised atheist, My dad told me Jesus was a alien and was beamed up and thats why He had special powers... Thanks Dad...

Why am i Christian and not say Muslim?

I have looked deeply into both and Jesus is far more reliable. I.e.allah told muhammad not to have sex with one of his slaves then changes his mind and said it was now ok = inconsistent

[retnuHDJ]

Ok, please stopped calling me closed minded. Obviously I haven't heard EVERY theory or argument for the existence of God. I have heard a good many, and all have made MANY assumptions. Just because I have come to the conclusion that God is extremely unlikely (And not just because others have), that does not make me close-minded. I take offense to being called that.

Although to be fair, re-reading my original comments, I can understand how you could think I am being closed minded.

[retnuHDJ]

Also, to quote you:

"I have evidence for you, just just let me know when your up to hearing it. "

And then me:

"And yes, I am definately up for hearing what evidence you have."

Let's hear it then. Try to convert me :P

I mean this to be a fun debate (or as serious as you like). So let's avoid calling each other stupid or close-minded etc.

Everyone sees the world through a different window, and I am GENUINELY keen to understand it as you do.

[KiwiChristian]

Ok, good comment. But im not here to convert anyone, all i want to do is have a change to present Jesus as i have experienced Him.

There aint room here to do it, so i will send you a message.

who knows its might be fun

[MrLemex]

O'Reilly is a monkey - I'll be amazed if he can count to ten.

[JimmyeDallas]

Fascism Fascism Fascism!

[horncrownedd]

lewser

[GiveMeMyArm]

Dawkins never gets to talk... seriously

[sgocity]

That's DOCTOR Dawkins to you, Bill O'Reilly. Idiot.

[eybarra71]

I think Richard Dawkins handles O'Reilly pretty well. I also think that O'Reilly held back on the crazy because Dawkins isn't just some chump pushover and will call O'Reilly out on his B.S.

[mistarcraw]

bill oreilly knows, instinctively, what fascism is. he spews it all the time without cessation

[mskoh52]

Dawkins reaction to the fascism comment is priceless

[92451721921892113]

oriely is insane

[TheLoquid]

:smugdawkins:

[bluntedtaoism]

i love how people still call richard dawkins smug and vicious when they are only criticizing him for not wilting under their bluster and empty rhetoric. being smug and vicious is as simple as not throwing yourself on your knees and begging forgiveness from MIGHTY YAHWEH

[dweebieMC]

hahaha oreilly is dumb as hell

[BUTTTUBESUCKSASS]

FASCISM

[maximummask]

How The World Works...*whips out bible*

[itsmu]

i felt really awkward half way through this and had to stop watching.

[0nePumpChump]

Argumentum ad populum

Argument from authority

I'm not sure what that fascism line is.

[Evangelikalel]

Christianity is a load of happy horseshit hth

[duckmonsterX]

Hmm. Maybe bills been getting worried that a certain other fox presenter has kinda run off with the crazy crown and made it his own. Time for a bit of crazy of his own.

FUCK IT! WE'LL DO IT LIVE!

[LawrenceTheGreat]

Dear Richard Dawkins: don't give O'Reilly the time of day.

[communistrussia]

o'reilly is a child, anyone who agrees with o'reilly is a child - mentally a baby.

[carlose0318]

@communistrussia that's not funny! do you think he chose to be mentally retarded?! of course not, nobody chooses it, it just happens! of course its stupid to take anything he says seriously, but just say "ok bill, ok.."

[Sendo911]

atheist cant win. Islam is truth.

[iotepmaggoti]

Truth is subjective only it can be truth if the whole world would be it, and that would require that every human being would be a part of it, truth can be only what has been given to you that you have experienced by yourself, and i ask that you keep your truth to yourself.

[sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf]

author? yeah fuck you Bill Oreilly... He is a scientist

[Eye2EyeIIIV]

Different education:

CREATION (Genesis) => Meaning of Life, Standards, Marriage, Laws, Absolute Truth, Absolute Logic, Orphanages, Hospitals, Gospel, God's Word

EVOLUTION => Abortion, School Violence, Communism, Humanism, Nazism, Racism, Rejection of Israel as God's chosen country [since there is no God], Secular Lifestyle, Secular Media, Premarital Sex, Pornography, Homosexual Behavior, Lawlessness, Man's Opinion

[fatmon]

WTF Evolution is in no way connected to all those things. Lets see let me add some to your CREATION (Genesis) section => Dark ages, belief in witches and wizards, stoning/burning alive of the innocent women during witch trials, discrimination, cults, crusades...im sure more people could add things to this list. It amazes me that you even attempt to connect evolution to all those things. Id like to see how that works?

[iotepmaggoti]

Not necessarly is god the meaning of life, everyones meaning of life is different and is more important then one dieties meaning of life. You can have standards wihtout a god. Marriage is accessible without a god as well. People make laws not god. So therefore your logic is flawed. No such thing as absolute truth and absolute logic, one can be absolute if everyone is a part of that truth. Orphanages and hospitals move down to science. gospel is redundant things do you not get bored.

[iotepmaggoti]

Science you mean, abortion is choice, would you want to have a baby when the babies parents are having problems emotional and everything, so you would rather let that baby suffer, then let the people choose a better time to have a kid. School violence is caused by the enviroment of the school kids homes and how the teachers around them. Communism is just a way of life.

Humanism is reality because we are human are we not.

Nazism a dictatorship caused by enviromentalism. not evolution.

[duckmonsterX]

""Nazism a dictatorship caused by enviromentalism. not evolution. "" you say.

Uh dude, you cant beat crazy ideas with crazy ideas. You just end up with some sort of crazy vortex.

Naziism is a system that came from a group of thinkers around early germany and italy known as the, *drum roll* "Radical conservative theorists". These ideas coalesed into the national syndicalist movement in italy which begat the fasicst party, and finally the nazi party.

[BenkaiDebussy]

*eyes glaze over*

heh National SOCIALIST Party what do you say to that, heh

[iotepmaggoti]

you statement is very true. Its just i was trying to debunk eve.

All i was saying, that environmentalism was, growing up in extreme households that the parents had radical ideas or abused them growing up. Thats what i meant nothing more nothing less, tldr enviroment growing up affects how people think when they are grown up.

[drewd1987]

@duckmonsterX Yeah but the irony was that the Nazi's were anything BUT conservative. They totally changed society to the left. The Nazi's were BIG believers in the "science" of eugenics - While killing millions of JEWS.

[duckmonsterX]

Good god, where do you people get this. Hitler set society to the left you say? I mean fuck dude, you say 'he changed it to the left' then admit the guy was into eugenics and racism. What planet do you live on where the left are into eugenics and killing jews?

Read some frigging history dude. His first move was to round up the left wingers and have them killed. He then started campaigning against immigration, moved to strengthen capitalism and instituted fascism. Thats not left wing dude.

[drewd1987]

@duckmonsterX

When did people lose respect for the consitution? There's nothing wrong with being CONSERVATIVE. I am not Republican, and I am not Democrat.

They both shit all over the Constitution.

Illegal immigration should NOT be allowed btw, why should it??!

We DO provide amnesty in some cases but we are a SOVERIGN NATION.

You think GWB was a mad man? LOL you dont know the truth at all. Bush really wasn't that bad and the crises was caused by the FED!

[duckmonsterX]

Your completely gaga.

[iotepmaggoti]

No such thing as god's chosen country, if there was a god he should respect all countries equally. Secular lifestyle is finding human ways to better reality then having to depend on a thing above you. Premarital sex, let the kids have sex it is their choice, you do not care for them only if they have the baby. And a week after the baby you could care less for it. Pornography, so people cannot get off their urges ok fine. So let people become rapists because they cannot get off.

[SJGster]

"if there was a god he should respect all countries equally." That really only makes sense if we assume that god is good, and/or that god is all-powerful. If God is not all powerful, maybe the world was pre-made, or maybe God has competition. If God is not good, then he like seeing people fight, and chose who God's rooting for.

[relicofgold]

o'reilly is the fascist.

just look at the way he conducts himself.

[relicofgold]

science doesn't advance the human condition in any moral way?

dna testing has resolved thousands of crimes, set the record straight, nabbed the bad guys and released those unjustly accused. that's moral.

[SJGster]

He did say "morally". So he presumably meant improvements on our understanding of behavior to others. That's more of a philosophy thing. I did have the same reaction you did at first, though.

[Sunneyskys]

I love Dawkins' hair...he needs to get out of his laboratory for a little bit and get some fresh air...:) or at least maybe take a shower..

[Sunneyskys]

Good Job O'Reilly...hard to be respectful to this monkey of a guy...and I hope you didn't hurt his feelings/ears too bad....;) Loved the part about brilliant men (smarter than you) believe in creative origin...;) Keep up the good work, sir. :) OH...and speaking of origin...have they come up with an explanation yet? :D

[fsxmantra]

Bill is evolving since the first interview with Dawkins, It seems that he made a donkey of himself in the previous encounter and now I see a monkey in the making. I wonder what's next?

[ManOnTheMoon09]

love dawkins eyes when O'Reilly said: "Science contributes nothing"

[TurboSpaghettiRobot]

This is what they do. They muddle it up; somehow, believing in the Big Bang is supposed to mean you're an amoral, evil person.

Also this bullshit about science class being unfair because of not "presenting alternatives" is just that, bullshit. Science is not a democratic process. It's about trial and error. It's not about going "well all evidence points to the moon being rock, but the Jesusfreaks say it's made of cheese" and then letting people decide.

That's not how finding truth works.

[alandonald]

pokerloser, your logic is as flawed as Bill's! Talk about warped logic lol. I agree that bill is out of his depth in this interview, unfortunately most people won't recognize it.

[pokerloser]

The fact that Bill O'Reilly believes in god is more than enough proof that god doesn't exist. Dawkins shredded him to pieces.

[senseis1]

How can ''guys'' like Bill O'Reilly get jobs on public TV? This woldn't be possible in my own country Germany. Slowly I loose my faith in the US as a modern country...

[kurtrosenwinkel]

it isnt a modern country, senseis. i mean, hell, we're still fighting against healthcare reform.

[Stinkywrix]

Those of us who live in the united states lost faith in it a long time ago.

[SAOldbill]

That's fascism!

*Is on a network that is, in and of itself, a right-wing propaganda network.*

[jazzx251]

Good point - Fox News uses propaganda techniques first employed by Joseph Goebbels in fascist Germany.

[demowarrior]

Bill debating Dawkins? What a joke! Bill does not even fully understanding the difference between blind faith and science. Also, if moral principles are the basis of his belief in Christianity, then how does he logically differentiate his belief from the belief of say Muslims or the followers of Confucius. If he believes in Christ, then he must necessarily reject Muslims etc.