If you do not have a love for this country then not only should you not be here...you should definitely should not be running it!!!
Patriotism is very important! And the President of the United States of America should be the most patriotic.
Obama did say he would not wear the american flag pin because he doesn't want to offend anyone. If you are offended by the flag of our country then you do not belong here!! I am offended by Obama!
You're right- "Barack Obama is NOT Ronald Reagan"- and taking excerpts from different statements does NOT constitute the TRUTH=-You NEED TO GET A LIFE-OR AT LEAST A CLUE!
God...I absolutely hate Obama but this is ridiculously ignorant and makes u look like complete fools. Obama doesn't hate America! His idea of what America is and what it should be is just completely wrong
@photolitherland. It's sad U feel this way. You stereo type Patriotism as rednecks. There are many proud legal Americans who are not even white caucasians but rather Americans who immigrated the right legal way & know what it's like to live outside the U.S.A. They have seen poverty. USA proverty level is rich compared to proverty outside U.S. We are blessed here in U.S.A. Our past wars were fought to give u your freedom. But u dont care. Its best u move away from USA. U may be a socialist.
@photolitherland Sorry that you despise all those "evil" corporations that have helped make the United States the most prosperous country on the face of the Earth. Have you ever taken the time to research exactly who contributes to campaigns? The SEIU, a LABOR UNION (A.K.A. an organization that can't be classified as an enterprise because it creates nothing of value, it just steals money under the pretense of protecting workers) contributed $80 million in 2008.
@photolitherland Do yourself a favor and never comment on this video again--you're just embarrassing yourself. Please learn how to spell as well. "Than" you are not very intelligent? Try "then." Attacking the intelligence of a person does nothing to prove a point, and trust me, I'm sure I could run circles around you in the intelligence department. Back to the argument--that's a pitiful oversimplification. Do you have any idea how many different groups influence the decision making of Congress?
@photolitherland What country doesn't have its less desirable citizens?? Please point out a country to me where everyone is perfect. Corporations control it? No, corporations compete in the free market. And not just large ones. Small businesses generate half the nonfarm output of the ENTIRE economy. You must live in a really terrible and fat area to have such a warped view of America. I can assure you, there is much to celebrate and be proud of in this fine country of ours.
@photolitherland Get the hell out of America then. Sorry the vast majority of hard-working, educated, and decent Americans are proud of our country and what it stands for. If you hate it so much, try living in Russia, China, Belarus, or any other authoritarian regime. People in those countries are not patriotic because they have nothing to be proud of, nothing to sustain their hopes and dreams. Americans are patriotic for good reason.
Your group is a SCAM sucking money out of Americans that the federal reserve system brought on by the terrorist regime in DC has approved. Are you a terrorist organization? Only scam artists and jihadists would presume protections from a tyrannical DC government... I ask again, are you a terrorist?
In global terms, patriotism is ridiculous. We are sharing the same emotions. There is no reason to stand for a country and stand against others. We are all the same everywhere, we may have a little change of character her or there, we may have good and bad ppl here or there, we may have different cultures, but we are still the same.
You should be proud of who you are . Where you come from doesnt matter.
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I can´t believe you Americans, i mean seriously - in my Country, this video would never be shown on TV. It is pure scare campagin and right wing propaganda.
As someone once told me, Patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel. People who use it to win elections are scoundrels, as I would go people who use religion the same, and that would include people like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.
Fuck patriotism. You shouldn't support a country because you happen to live there. It should be about what your country is doing. I will support my nation as long as it follows my views, but if it doesn't, I don't have an ounce of patriotism.
@originalcanadian1 Lol that was such an ignorant statement. It's the argument everyone uses - "if you don't like it leave". Why should I get out? I thought America was all about diversity and equality of people regardless of their views.
Without patriotism in this country all of your sorry asses would be living in a socialist state. I'm sure some of you wouldn't mind that, being ignorant as you are of how the real world works. You can't just sit around and think everything is going to be alright. Life and especially liberty is a struggle. Evil WILL prevail when good men do nothing. Stop being so naive and weak. I know it is a harder life to stand up and be principled, but the alternative is slavery.
Without patriotism in this country all of your sorry asses would be living in a socialist state. I'm sure some of you wouldn't mind that, being ignorant as you are of how the real world works. You can't just sit around and think everything is going to be alright. Life and especially liberty is a struggle. Evil WILL prevail when good men do nothing. Stop being so naive and weak. I know it is a harder life to stand up and be principled, but the alternative is slavery.
Without patriotism in this country all of your sorry asses would be living in a socialist state. I'm sure some of you wouldn't mind that, being ignorant as you are of how the real world works. You can't just sit around and think everything is going to be alright. Life and especially liberty is a struggle. Evil WILL prevail when good men do nothing. Stop being so naive and weak. I know it is a harder life to stand up and be principled, but the alternative is slavery.
hows about you quit making scare tactics out of the morally harmless and editing film to make it look like that you are on the right side of an argument when you are so obviously wrong
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@photolitherland Your education could be part of your problem. So you would be just as happy in Tijuana as you would be in Trenton.....oooookayyyyyyyyyyyy. Lots of educated idiiots out there.
@photolitherland Then by all means move to Iran and tell them that. After your throat has been slit have fun burning in hell talking to Hitler about patriotism.
and i ain't being sarcastic either. If anything, the people bitching and moaning about PRESIDENT Obama's birth certificate are the people not right for the United States of America
@photolitherland Patriotism may seem like a "corny" belief, but without it a country can literally fall apart, I understand liberal thinking, but It's not just realistic, if a country loses patriotism, who will fight to defend it? We as Americans tend to forget that the interests and beliefs of others around the world are not the same as ours. And the same sort of logic we base our lives off of is not shared by many.
I'm reading comments and this is whats wrong with America not our only Gov but the newer generation degrading patriotism, The Clueless, The blind leading the blind, The gamers, The couch riders. U take this country 4 granted, Go live in N Korea, China, Middle East, Places where they will kill you 4 speaking your mind, Go visit and live in some 3rd world countries, U will be screaming 4 America and patriotism.
@photolitherland well sorry to be blunt, but "duh!" look where you are, arkansas definitely is not near the top of anyone's list in terms of places to live/ relocate. it ranks near the bottom in education as well. but before you write our great country off, why not look into some places with educated residents and more upscale restaurants. not every place is rednecks and mcdonald's. for the love of God, you have 49 other states to choose from!
@photolitherland right wing nuts comprise a very small portion of the electorate. last time i checked, we value education more now than ever before--why do you think ACT scores have gone up as well as enrollment in four year universities? no, the problem today is that people have forgotten the history of our great nation. when you lost sight of the fact that we have always been a beacon of freedom and hope, you buy in to misguided notions.
Ah, patriotism, how stupid. Being proud of what country you're born in is a bit silly really. You have no say over the matter, you have no choice what country you're born in. How can you possibly feel pride in it? It's like being proud of having a head.
To be honnest i don't understand what's this all about. You spit at Obama because he refuses to act like a fanatic? Shame on you! What a band of conservationists and racist people you are. Patriotism... Back up religion for those who deny the existence of god. Venerate your country... And we speak of saving earth? How can you even consider it if you can't save you own country from this kind of irrational belief?
Yr kind of ignorance is difficult to penetrate with rational argument. But 2 things: (1)the Earth will be here after we are gone; it doesn't need saving. (2) Most patriots believe in God, patriotism goes with their sense of responsibility to a higher power. The backup "religions" for atheists are evolution, communism, environmentalism, progressivism, veganism, Obama-worship. All things that enable atheists to feel better about themselves while spitting on the God that made them and loves them.
To learn something about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, check out: Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History by Dr. Norman Finkelstein. This book is actual scholarship, not rhetoric.
Do you know who is the most influential Country to the US government? Have you seen these PROTEST pictures from America? Google this: who is congress listening to - it will be the first article on Google. If youre interested in this topic, there is a really well done documentary on Google Video: The Israel lobby - The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy.
patriotism is irrational. what exactly is one supposed to be proud of? the government? the physical landscape? the people who live there? to worship a "nation" as something different from it's component members is worshiping a floating abstraction.
I would be careful with quoting Einstein. There are so many fakes out there. This one for example is not confirmed. I also think nationalism can be much more dangerous than measles. Measles is also near extinction in the civilized world. This is clearly not the case with nationalism =)
lol i luv when they cut the video when obama werw about to say: .. ''''i wont wear that pin on my chest''' CUT '''to show my patriotism'''''
lol this is one of the dumbest dirtiest ad ive ever seen. even a 2 years old kid could see the video has been cut before obama could give the explanation why he doesnt wear the pin
We were also told that everything that happened before and including September 11th wasn't president Bush's fault since he just got in office. What were you saying about double standards again?
As a military mother I am so afraid of Obama being in charge of my son's military future. I would feel more secure if I was a terrorist or illegal alien because their right to life under this administration is more important than ours.
Obama is a worthless piece of excrement who is dragging our country down the drain with him as he inevitably circles the toilet in the process or being flushed. The next four years will be marked by squandering our national treasure, ensuring that most of those who are represented in the government pay few if any taxes (thus having little reason to oppose government's growth), and expanding the power of government over what has traditionally been the private sector. That isn't patriotism to me
You realize that Bush and the other Republicans are the ones that instituted and are pushing for more tax cuts for the rich, right? And they are mad at Obama because he is going to reverse the Bush tax cuts?
Oh wait, I forgot. Obama is a black muslim nigger who hates america and is a terrorist.
I am aware that the Republicans instituted tax cuts for those who actually pay taxes. We now have almost half the population paying few if any taxes, and many of them complaining when those who pay taxes get their taxes cut. The revolutionary war was about the problems created by taxation without representation. We now face the new and different problems created by representation without any sort of proportional taxation in a setting where one political party instigates class envy.
gstrocknroller, taxes cuts for the rich are a good thing... a poor man wont give you a job... a rich man paying more in taxes will export jobs into a competitive market...
But the question is, where is the right place for the tax rate to be? The answer to every problem can't be "tax cuts" as most conservative/republican types like to propose. Where is the right balance? They don't give an answer to that question, just responding with "more tax cuts". Taxes for the top percentile are already too low and this is contributing to the economic crisis we are in today.
Actually patroitism is more than just a flag lapel pin and saying the pledge of allegiance. Obama does love this country and he doesn't need to wrap himself in the flag to prove it.
lolll dis commercial is soo true. i mean hes president now, and he already sold u to the koreans and the afghanis, and then made jeremiah wright VP. and da new office slogan s "NONONO NOT GOD BLESS AMERICA. GOD DAMN AMERICA"
hahahha u fuckin right wingers make me laugh. sit soo far up ur own asses U believe everything thats spewed to you. oh yah, what ever happened to obama's turban, wasn't he an al qaeda afilliate dat goes to a church? haha all these bullshit accusations conflict!!!!!!
1. the airplane was owned by North American Airlines... when the lease was up he had to change the paint scheme of the a/c, the American flag is the copyrighted symbol of the a/c he had to change it.
2. the 911 clip of him explaining why he won't wear the flag pin, is misleading and didn't fully share his explanation. which was...
Wearing the flag pin doesn't mean anything, our flag does not represent us, WE as American represent the flag, the terrorist didn't attack the flag they attacked US.
Considering he is a member of the democratic party, I don't think he is much of a socialist. This is the problem with the American publics use of political terms. The American right abuse terms such as anarchism, libertarianism, socialism, liberalism and use them for people who are none of those things.
Wow, have you not been paying attention to anything Obama has been saying EVER? This guy has incredibly troubling communist proclivities and socialist sympathies. All this talk about nationalizing banks and interfering in private enterprise. are you kidding me? Obama is shitting all over capitalism and the constitution.
He is not a communist and will not have community proclivities, what a silly thing to day. He may have socialist policies, but often these are good things and I think necessary. Natioanlising bank and interfering with private enterprise? You know why that is happening don't you? Even Bush would have had to have taken those stuff. Market fundamentalism is over.
Coherence is difficult to achieve in these little boxes when there is so much to say. As for my grammar, if it is really bad then I apologise, but I doubt it is bad enough to lead people to stop taking me seriously.
By voting for me you have entrusted me with you and your childrens future and to establish America once again to it true greatness!
Alle wir müssen Sozialopfer für das bettermeant unseres Landes aushalten! Wir arbeiten, weil Arbeit selfworth zum überlegenen amerikanischen Rennen einflößen! Ich stelle Amerika da die Mitte der Weltmacht her, wie sie sein sollte! Zusammen mit der Hilfe meiner nahen Verfechter EICHEL stellen wir ein reicht her, das 1000 Jahre dauert!! Heil Obama! Heil Obama!
what exactly is one supposed to be proud of? the government? the physical landscape? the history? all of these are flawed to the point of shame (the second one is simply subjective). patriotism is a floating abstaction.
I've said it before and I swear to GOD I will die saying it. Patriotism is about FREEDOM. Not American Government. Not The American Flag. Not Anything, Other Than FREEDOM!
Your confusing patriotism with nationalism you moron. And I hate to break it to you, but all evidence points to the United States as the greatest, most just, most free country on earth. If you don't believe that, keep drinking the koolaid the far left forces down your throat and go whine about the "Israeli war of aggression" or some other totally bullshit idea your kind spews.
Actually I am not confusing them at all, explain how if you believe so! All the evidence does not point to America being the greatest, the question is largely meaningless unless you ask exactly what crtieria is used. Is the economy? The military? The largest? Most liberal? Most god-fearing? But I don't know what you mean most JUST?
I have never heard of Koolaid. As for Isaeli War of Aggression, what does that have to do anything? Patriotism is the bullshit idea.
Pommit, if you ever lived in both Europe and America you'd know exactly what he's talking about. I would never in a million years go back to living in Europe. The US has its flaws, sure, everybody recognizes that, but the US is easily the greatest place on earth to live. In regards to standard of living, the economy, health care (I experienced both systems first hand, so I don't care about some weird European study claiming otherwise), education and--not to forget--freedom the US is superior.
American people have the most freedoms. That is true. Standards of living are not the highest in the world but one of the highest. Education is not the best. And certainly the health care system is appalling in its individualistic basis for provision. There are many aspects of the U.S. which are better than other countries. But simply saying the greatest doesn't mean much. I could think the UK was better, for example, in being generally more liberal.
What is greatest, of course, is what you define it to be. The Mullahs is Iran probably don't like freedom so very much, so they will probably not have freedom as a criterion for greatness. I think that most people will come to love America upon visiting. In fact, most of my family and friends in Europe who visited America certainly liked it much better than Europe - not that Europe doesn't have it's qualities, of course. Still, Id much rather be poor in the US than rich anywhere else.
Europe is not one country. France is very different from Germany, which is very different from Poland or Sweden. But undoubtedly your standard of life is likely to be better if poor and living in Europe. But why would you think it is better to live in the US when poor rather than in a European country? And from my understanding the mid-west of the states is very different to the north-east or the western seaboard.
The reason for my preference does not stem from looking objectively at standard of living;. It is just an acknowledgement that I would prefer living in America over any other country, no matter my financial status. Of course rich people in Europe are better off than your poor American, strictly financially and quality of life speaking.
Of course I acknowledge the differences in European countries. The differences are not as substantial as to not being able to apply broad generalizations, though.
it isn't so strange that Obama don't like/love usa when e will destroy it. Us dollar will collapse and usa will not longer be usa. but instead it will be the North American Union. look it up if you don't believe me.
Patriotism? Oh my god, I really do think in many ways America is a wonderful country, but patriotism, what a load of shit. Patriotism is something for soundrels and fools. It is complete rubbish. Why is it necessary? How does it make sense? I think patriotism, Americans faith in their political system, and religion are the worst things about the country. A heavily indoctrinated society in general. (The UK is little better, however)
Hey Red Coat, how are you doing? How's Big Brother Government Control working in the U.K? Do you like your Socialized Health Care? How about your Privacy? Oh Yeah, you have none. With all of those camera's on the street corners it's a wonder how you people even spit without getting a ticket. Go Fuck Yourself. I'll die fighting for Freedom before I go to war for this Tyrannical Government.
Redcoat? Had to check your age there as it was such a stupid thing to say. Think you are making the mistake of thinking I am some patriotic. I hate the UK government and the surveillance. And American is the most free nation in the world. But my criticism is of the foolish patriotism that's is so prevalent in US society. As for socialised healthcare, believe me, nobody would want to the US system! How will die for freedom? Grow up.
Because it is based on spurious claims on one people being better than other. Also tries to unify everything to do with a country without actually recognising that they are not related, so for example people start raving about ther government, their military, and their people as if they are all excellent, the best, or do good. And there are plenty of things bad about a country than good when assess using the same criteria.
I am talking about bad things that all countries have done or been involved in. I am not just referring to the USA alone. But torture in Guantanomo, the invasion of Iraq, bullying of Iran and Venezuala are recent ones and just foreign policy ones.
Actually it has alot to with being part of the dying species of the "American White Males". Pretty soon, this country will be run by spicks and spooks.
What makes you think that Regan was slime? Was it because he was for Smaller Government or was it because he was for Peace and Freedom? Maybe it is because he made those Germans Tear Down That Wall. Yeah, he was such a bad guy......
Reagan actually increased the size of government. And he certainly wasn't for Peace or Freedom. One need only wonder what why he would wish to begin a new arms race with the Strategic Defence Initiative, and then you have the invasion of Grenada.
Thanks to Communism, that is what we have received. Our schools are run by the government. We are not told the truth about the United States founding fathers. We are told that they were slave owners and drunks. Our culture is being destroyed by our government. There has been a influx of illegal aliens who do not practice American cluture. They see us as the Tyrants because the Government who let them in to this country have told them we are wrong and the Government is right.
You think communism is why you have a state? I think you need to read more about the purpose of a state in society but it has nothing to do with communism. Are they really teaching such rubbish about founding fathers? I have never heard of them being slave owners or drunks, but they might have been. As for immigrants, well they have every right to be in the US. But I may agree with you with saying that government is bad full stop, no matter what liberal democracy we talk about, U.S., U.K. etc
on the mentioning that immigration is bad, i think different. It all depends on what kind of immigration the US receives. Mostly legal immigrants are the source of good labor. Recently however, too many illegals have crossed the border (mainly Mexicans) just to take benefits and contribute very little to the prosperity of america
You said that if ceremonial protocal are made optional they aren't protocal. Then you called me retarded, but this is one of the worst arguements you've made yet. Fact is, I don't want them to be protocal, so it's a damn good thing they wouldn't be protocal anymore. And yes, if we are forced to show are patriotism ceremoniously (your precious protocal) that is a form of nationalism. The fact that you think anything in patriotism should be protocal is ludicrous.
--You intentionally misunderstood it. A protocol (ex. removing your hat & putting it over your heart in observance of the national anthem) is not optional. The protocol doesn't read "put your hat over your heart.....or not." THAT'S what it means, you idiot.
"a form of nationalism"
--Only to empty, hateful, lying, America-haters like you. Why don't you make us all happy & go live somewhere else?
"The fact that you think"
--The fact that you're 16 means you don't know shit.
for fuck's sake dude, settle down. I don't want there to be protocal, get that through your head. I understand that protocal is not optional. I'm trying to communicate that protocal cannot exhist within patriotism in America. That's really the only arguement you made, so it's all i can comment on. The rest was just mean little personal attacks on my age and how I "Hate America". And from now, on if you have no points to make, just don't post, don't just attack me to make yourself seem superior
--That's not what you were arguing, you idiot. Why is it that debating with Liberals means chasing a moving target? It's so lame.
"don't just attack me to make yourself seem superior"
--I'm not, I'm correcting your grossly misinformed little brain. You don't know shit from shinola yet you're telling ME what things mean and what's what in the world? Give me a break!
OK, I gotta say, I'm done with this. What satrted as a decent civil and well-thought-out arguement on both sides, has become an arguement about the meaning of protocal, which coinidntally we are noth using 100% correctly. Other than that if you don't count your random insults that you seem to now spout instead of decent points as you did in the beginning, than this is not a debate or even a conversation in any sense of the word, so i gotta stop it here before it gets even dumber
The idea you propose in putting forth the proposition that patriotism should be showed through protocal is nationalism, something you accuse me of supporting. I support show of patriotism and even patriotism itself to be left to the individual to decide, if we are forced to all love our country and do it in the exact same way everyone else does, and be badmouthed if you refuse, that is nationilisim.
"The idea you propose in putting forth the proposition that patriotism should be showed through protocal is nationalism"
--No, I'm (pointlessly) trying to inform you that patriotism is love & respect for your country, and that all politicians should be patriots, because if they are not then they are detriments to our nation. But I think that's too complicated for you. You are obviously a simpleton.
of course, politicians should be patriotic, we don't want them running countries they don't care for. Are disagreement is in how patriotism should (orin your case must) be shown, you said it is "love and respect" for your country. I think Obama has that, the point I'm trying to make is that the fact that if he doesn't want to show it through symbol worship, there's nothing wrong with that. Also to when i said "If we're forced to patriotic," I think it's pretty obvious I meant "To be patriotic"
I listened to your ignorance and hate does that mean that I am a follower of you? Does everything you hear from those around you state who you are? Were the people who went to Haggars church as homoloving drug users?
"Obama is no Ronald Reagan" and that's supposed to be a bad thing. Was America really such a beacon under Reagan when you were backing terrorists? (Contras in Nicaragua)
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I respect Obama for that. Patriotism is measured by who can wave the biggest flag and who puts their hand on their heart during the pledge. To me patriotism is measured by love of freedom or whatever not for symbols. These people who made the video could find a guy who loved his country and did all that good shit, but if he happened to not be wearing a pin are saluting something he's suddenly not patriotic at all. Now that's pretty fucked up right there
--The country is not a symbol. Plus, to what are you being patriotic for when you have a "love for freedom?" Patriotism is not nationalism, it's allegiance to your country. Please stop trying to change the definition of words to suit your Leftist agenda (or out of stupidity).
"but if he happened to not be wearing a pin are saluting something"
--If he loved his country he wouldn't refuse the pin or forget ceremonial protocols. That's part of being patriotic.
The way I used the words is correct. the way i defined patriotism was not as nationilism, That first half of your comment made no sense. You say that patriotism is allegiance to your country. true, in some ways. Unconditional allegience would be foolish, we must accept that wether a country has done bad things or not, all countries have the potential to do bad things. But it is true in the sense that patriotism is allegience to country, when seen as morally right, instead of symbol worship
"But it is true in the sense that patriotism is allegience to country, when seen as morally right, instead of symbol worship"
--That's so dumb. Basically you're saying that what I said was right, so long as it didn't involve the things I said didn't pertain to it. Wow. That's like saying "this hunk of rock is pure igneous rock, so long as there isn't any other kind of rock in it."
You also say "the country is not a symbol", I agree, but things likeforced salutes reduce it to just that. The second part, you say if a man truly loved his country he'd wear the pin and call this a ceremonial protocols. A persons ceremonial protocals of patriotism should be 100% individual, if they are made mandatory than they negate the reson we are patriotic in america, because of the freedoms we are guranteed. if we're forced to patriotic than what we are being patriotic for is abondoned
"A persons ceremonial protocals of patriotism should be 100% individual, if they are made mandatory than they negate the reson we are patriotic in america"
--Then they wouldn't be protocols anymore. Damn you're retarded!
"if we're forced to patriotic"
--There is no such thing. That's like saying "forced to love" something or someone. Are you a 3 year old? I ask because it seems you have a total and complete lack of logical reasoning skills.
If you do not have a love for this country then not only should you not be here...you should definitely should not be running it!!!
Patriotism is very important! And the President of the United States of America should be the most patriotic.
Obama did say he would not wear the american flag pin because he doesn't want to offend anyone. If you are offended by the flag of our country then you do not belong here!! I am offended by Obama!
tinaw1969 3 months ago
@tinaw1969 patriotism are for the sheep, like yourself.
Darusdei 1 month ago
You're right- "Barack Obama is NOT Ronald Reagan"- and taking excerpts from different statements does NOT constitute the TRUTH=-You NEED TO GET A LIFE-OR AT LEAST A CLUE!
yeswecanman1 6 months ago
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Thank god he isn't Reagan!
dembumboclot 8 months ago
God...I absolutely hate Obama but this is ridiculously ignorant and makes u look like complete fools. Obama doesn't hate America! His idea of what America is and what it should be is just completely wrong
ProudPatriotUSA 8 months ago
Ron Paul Votes "NO" and has for over a decade!!!
kelsogrande 9 months ago
Yikes!! Intellectual rednecks!?!?!? Sorry, I guess I stumbled into the wrong room!
Anyway, go to Two Soldiers/ Due Soldati@
Nobbio 2468 to see real patriotism, and it's cost. You will be moved...
brainslks 9 months ago
@photolitherland. It's sad U feel this way. You stereo type Patriotism as rednecks. There are many proud legal Americans who are not even white caucasians but rather Americans who immigrated the right legal way & know what it's like to live outside the U.S.A. They have seen poverty. USA proverty level is rich compared to proverty outside U.S. We are blessed here in U.S.A. Our past wars were fought to give u your freedom. But u dont care. Its best u move away from USA. U may be a socialist.
craig8130 10 months ago
@photolitherland Sorry that you despise all those "evil" corporations that have helped make the United States the most prosperous country on the face of the Earth. Have you ever taken the time to research exactly who contributes to campaigns? The SEIU, a LABOR UNION (A.K.A. an organization that can't be classified as an enterprise because it creates nothing of value, it just steals money under the pretense of protecting workers) contributed $80 million in 2008.
tasf29 11 months ago
@photolitherland Do yourself a favor and never comment on this video again--you're just embarrassing yourself. Please learn how to spell as well. "Than" you are not very intelligent? Try "then." Attacking the intelligence of a person does nothing to prove a point, and trust me, I'm sure I could run circles around you in the intelligence department. Back to the argument--that's a pitiful oversimplification. Do you have any idea how many different groups influence the decision making of Congress?
tasf29 11 months ago
@photolitherland What country doesn't have its less desirable citizens?? Please point out a country to me where everyone is perfect. Corporations control it? No, corporations compete in the free market. And not just large ones. Small businesses generate half the nonfarm output of the ENTIRE economy. You must live in a really terrible and fat area to have such a warped view of America. I can assure you, there is much to celebrate and be proud of in this fine country of ours.
tasf29 11 months ago
@photolitherland Get the hell out of America then. Sorry the vast majority of hard-working, educated, and decent Americans are proud of our country and what it stands for. If you hate it so much, try living in Russia, China, Belarus, or any other authoritarian regime. People in those countries are not patriotic because they have nothing to be proud of, nothing to sustain their hopes and dreams. Americans are patriotic for good reason.
tasf29 11 months ago
Your group is a SCAM sucking money out of Americans that the federal reserve system brought on by the terrorist regime in DC has approved. Are you a terrorist organization? Only scam artists and jihadists would presume protections from a tyrannical DC government... I ask again, are you a terrorist?
14ATruther 1 year ago
problem, obama? (troll face)
lineage415 1 year ago
In global terms, patriotism is ridiculous. We are sharing the same emotions. There is no reason to stand for a country and stand against others. We are all the same everywhere, we may have a little change of character her or there, we may have good and bad ppl here or there, we may have different cultures, but we are still the same.
You should be proud of who you are . Where you come from doesnt matter.
MrGaidzak 1 year ago
Obama's Patriotism Problem? Yes, he isn't patriotic - at least to America. His "loyalty" IF he has any, is to himself.
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HoodwinkedbyanAngel 1 year ago
I can´t believe you Americans, i mean seriously - in my Country, this video would never be shown on TV. It is pure scare campagin and right wing propaganda.
It is absolutly stupid
Festabenkaj 1 year ago
@photolitherland i guess that was reagan wasnt it
USAPropaganda 1 year ago
“Patriotism is a pernicious, psychopathic form of idiocy”
- George Bernard Shaw
Darusdei 1 year ago
As someone once told me, Patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel. People who use it to win elections are scoundrels, as I would go people who use religion the same, and that would include people like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.
elnick1000 1 year ago
He's not my president
brentsapp25 1 year ago
Fuck patriotism. You shouldn't support a country because you happen to live there. It should be about what your country is doing. I will support my nation as long as it follows my views, but if it doesn't, I don't have an ounce of patriotism.
madpaintbalerx 1 year ago
@madpaintbalerx well then ur a communist, plkease leave the country as soon as u can
originalcanadian1 1 year ago
@originalcanadian1 Lol that was such an ignorant statement. It's the argument everyone uses - "if you don't like it leave". Why should I get out? I thought America was all about diversity and equality of people regardless of their views.
madpaintbalerx 1 year ago
@madpaintbalerx well remember this statment was made many years ago before u commie hippies existed
originalcanadian1 1 year ago
@originalcanadian1 Lol, a word of advice: learn to spell and write correct sentences before you mouth off.
madpaintbalerx 1 year ago
@madpaintbalerx word of advice, im not really mouthing off if im typing
originalcanadian1 1 year ago
politicians fucking sucks:-(
(A)
SuperAcab666 1 year ago
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Without patriotism in this country all of your sorry asses would be living in a socialist state. I'm sure some of you wouldn't mind that, being ignorant as you are of how the real world works. You can't just sit around and think everything is going to be alright. Life and especially liberty is a struggle. Evil WILL prevail when good men do nothing. Stop being so naive and weak. I know it is a harder life to stand up and be principled, but the alternative is slavery.
Piercedblood 1 year ago
Without patriotism in this country all of your sorry asses would be living in a socialist state. I'm sure some of you wouldn't mind that, being ignorant as you are of how the real world works. You can't just sit around and think everything is going to be alright. Life and especially liberty is a struggle. Evil WILL prevail when good men do nothing. Stop being so naive and weak. I know it is a harder life to stand up and be principled, but the alternative is slavery.
Piercedblood 1 year ago
@Piercedblood you should more carefuly examine the words patriotism and socialism...
Darusdei 1 year ago
Without patriotism in this country all of your sorry asses would be living in a socialist state. I'm sure some of you wouldn't mind that, being ignorant as you are of how the real world works. You can't just sit around and think everything is going to be alright. Life and especially liberty is a struggle. Evil WILL prevail when good men do nothing. Stop being so naive and weak. I know it is a harder life to stand up and be principled, but the alternative is slavery.
Piercedblood 1 year ago
hows about you quit making scare tactics out of the morally harmless and editing film to make it look like that you are on the right side of an argument when you are so obviously wrong
JV2120 1 year ago
AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
NickZhaofromUofC 1 year ago
@NickZhaofromUofC shouldn't it be "the greatest" ? :D
Darusdei 1 year ago
@NickZhaofromUofC got it out of your system? :p
Darusdei 1 year ago
@photolitherland Your education could be part of your problem. So you would be just as happy in Tijuana as you would be in Trenton.....oooookayyyyyyyyyyyy. Lots of educated idiiots out there.
kozanne 1 year ago
@photolitherland Then by all means move to Iran and tell them that. After your throat has been slit have fun burning in hell talking to Hitler about patriotism.
rossiwayz1 1 year ago
@specialfx34 YES!!!!! That is my point exactly
and i ain't being sarcastic either. If anything, the people bitching and moaning about PRESIDENT Obama's birth certificate are the people not right for the United States of America
JV2120 1 year ago
Guess who has really small government, no national health care, no gun control laws, and very low taxes? Somalia.
Oh, and by the way... Patriotism is absolutely ridiculous. :P
SeditioPlacida 1 year ago
@photolitherland Patriotism may seem like a "corny" belief, but without it a country can literally fall apart, I understand liberal thinking, but It's not just realistic, if a country loses patriotism, who will fight to defend it? We as Americans tend to forget that the interests and beliefs of others around the world are not the same as ours. And the same sort of logic we base our lives off of is not shared by many.
ocanator 1 year ago
Fail...
Dograpp2 1 year ago
I'm reading comments and this is whats wrong with America not our only Gov but the newer generation degrading patriotism, The Clueless, The blind leading the blind, The gamers, The couch riders. U take this country 4 granted, Go live in N Korea, China, Middle East, Places where they will kill you 4 speaking your mind, Go visit and live in some 3rd world countries, U will be screaming 4 America and patriotism.
lv2surf 1 year ago
patriotism is a kind of religion, it is the egg from which wars are hatched.
freedan33 1 year ago
"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious" :P
Darusdei 1 year ago
@photolitherland well sorry to be blunt, but "duh!" look where you are, arkansas definitely is not near the top of anyone's list in terms of places to live/ relocate. it ranks near the bottom in education as well. but before you write our great country off, why not look into some places with educated residents and more upscale restaurants. not every place is rednecks and mcdonald's. for the love of God, you have 49 other states to choose from!
tasf29 1 year ago
@photolitherland right wing nuts comprise a very small portion of the electorate. last time i checked, we value education more now than ever before--why do you think ACT scores have gone up as well as enrollment in four year universities? no, the problem today is that people have forgotten the history of our great nation. when you lost sight of the fact that we have always been a beacon of freedom and hope, you buy in to misguided notions.
tasf29 1 year ago
@photolitherland you're a moron. leave our great nation and see how you like it in north korea.
tasf29 1 year ago
@tasf29 Patriotism ruins history. * Goethe
stradhex 1 year ago
Ah, patriotism, how stupid. Being proud of what country you're born in is a bit silly really. You have no say over the matter, you have no choice what country you're born in. How can you possibly feel pride in it? It's like being proud of having a head.
TomatoNanny 1 year ago 2
Ronald reagan was an anti American douchebag
CorporateSwine 1 year ago
im patriot
BUT this guy have no inde what its all about
im a new thinking nationalist, were the pepol of my country and the ones who are gest here are more importet then old traditions and flags
lordofdarkdudes 1 year ago
hahaha this is bad?
the flag waving super patriotic... ufh makes me throw up
some of the yank "patriots" seem like some serbian... batshit nationalistic views :D
Darusdei 1 year ago
The last real president of this country was JFK!
ReVox777 1 year ago
Patriotism is nice but when you see politicians do it, it seems fake...
nolan38891 2 years ago
To be honnest i don't understand what's this all about. You spit at Obama because he refuses to act like a fanatic? Shame on you! What a band of conservationists and racist people you are. Patriotism... Back up religion for those who deny the existence of god. Venerate your country... And we speak of saving earth? How can you even consider it if you can't save you own country from this kind of irrational belief?
TheTapirTutorials 2 years ago 2
Yr kind of ignorance is difficult to penetrate with rational argument. But 2 things: (1)the Earth will be here after we are gone; it doesn't need saving. (2) Most patriots believe in God, patriotism goes with their sense of responsibility to a higher power. The backup "religions" for atheists are evolution, communism, environmentalism, progressivism, veganism, Obama-worship. All things that enable atheists to feel better about themselves while spitting on the God that made them and loves them.
kellymn17 2 years ago
when when patriotism goes too far you get the BNP party in britain
kcandeva 2 years ago
why don't you people just admit that you're RACIST? instead of making up excuses for why you "don't like" Obama?
you are racists, afraid of change, afraid of being a progressive country that isn't an embarrassment compared to other industrialized nations.
have you people ever even left this country in your lifetimes? you should try it and see what the real world is like =)
Gwendy55 2 years ago
Can you spell propaganda?
LegendUnderhill 2 years ago
patriotism is completely irrational.
fede2 2 years ago 4
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Nomad4587 2 years ago
Lol
FordCopChrist1995 2 years ago
Howard Kaloogian for the president!
Alexander78Mr 2 years ago
Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious. - Wilde
MarxBakuninMe 2 years ago
Also, you shouldn't judge an authors work until you've actually read it.
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
To learn something about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, check out: Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History by Dr. Norman Finkelstein. This book is actual scholarship, not rhetoric.
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
Finkelstein is rather a lousy joke compared to Noam Chomsky :P
Darusdei 2 years ago
Please explain. Which books of his have you read?
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
watch the debate between them
(the debate was about israel/palestine conflict)
Finkelstein gets frustrated and the arguments turn to personal attacks
very sad to watch
Darusdei 2 years ago
When did Finkelstein and Chomsky have a debate? I searched toutube, couldn't find it. Please post link.
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
forgive me i mixed up Dershowitz and Finkelstein. (have been awake for 30h)
Finkelstein and Chomsky mostly agree to my knowledge
really big bad on my part :DDD
Darusdei 2 years ago
: )
Yeah, I was like, what the hell is this guy talking about. LOL.
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
Do you know who is the most influential Country to the US government? Have you seen these PROTEST pictures from America? Google this: who is congress listening to - it will be the first article on Google. If youre interested in this topic, there is a really well done documentary on Google Video: The Israel lobby - The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy.
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
this comment is so true we will all fall with obama as leader wait and see
Silvershot6986 2 years ago
oh... yeas,, bush was much better...
Oh WAIT! 2 Billions a Week to Iraq..
Hmm, and than the bourse crash, and no one has money... UH?
Barrack ftw
Fast4Music 2 years ago
I think Obama is the best for America and sertenly a lot better than that dumbass Bush jr. Bush made the world more dangerous.
joibs 2 years ago
patriotism is irrational. what exactly is one supposed to be proud of? the government? the physical landscape? the people who live there? to worship a "nation" as something different from it's component members is worshiping a floating abstraction.
fede2 2 years ago
he like teaching us the WAy of nazi value
think about it
Killergrayback 2 years ago
I would be careful with quoting Einstein. There are so many fakes out there. This one for example is not confirmed. I also think nationalism can be much more dangerous than measles. Measles is also near extinction in the civilized world. This is clearly not the case with nationalism =)
JohnnyCash08 2 years ago
lol i luv when they cut the video when obama werw about to say: .. ''''i wont wear that pin on my chest''' CUT '''to show my patriotism'''''
lol this is one of the dumbest dirtiest ad ive ever seen. even a 2 years old kid could see the video has been cut before obama could give the explanation why he doesnt wear the pin
crumcon 2 years ago
Whatever! Guess what Obama is great and Reagan sucked. GET OVER IT!
jasonboh26 2 years ago
yeah reagan only got us out of many years of national debt. he must have been horrible.
justinjonesypoo 2 years ago 2
I don't think you should judge Obama's term until he actually finishes it.
BinaryNinja 2 years ago
People on the left did it to Bush. Why is it suddenly wrong to do now?
GeneralOfAnegon 2 years ago
GeneralOfAnegon, double standards my good man... double standards........
Milt0nBradley 2 years ago 2
My thoughts exactly.
GeneralOfAnegon 2 years ago
We were also told that everything that happened before and including September 11th wasn't president Bush's fault since he just got in office. What were you saying about double standards again?
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EndOfTimesApocalypse 2 years ago
Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it.
George Bernard Shaw
JohnnyCash08 2 years ago 3
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To me, it seems a dreadful indignity to have a soul controlled by geography. ~George Santayana
edlemur 2 years ago 2
As a military mother I am so afraid of Obama being in charge of my son's military future. I would feel more secure if I was a terrorist or illegal alien because their right to life under this administration is more important than ours.
tmlillie925 2 years ago
Obama is a worthless piece of excrement who is dragging our country down the drain with him as he inevitably circles the toilet in the process or being flushed. The next four years will be marked by squandering our national treasure, ensuring that most of those who are represented in the government pay few if any taxes (thus having little reason to oppose government's growth), and expanding the power of government over what has traditionally been the private sector. That isn't patriotism to me
cggj1997 2 years ago
You realize that Bush and the other Republicans are the ones that instituted and are pushing for more tax cuts for the rich, right? And they are mad at Obama because he is going to reverse the Bush tax cuts?
Oh wait, I forgot. Obama is a black muslim nigger who hates america and is a terrorist.
gstrocknroller 2 years ago
I am aware that the Republicans instituted tax cuts for those who actually pay taxes. We now have almost half the population paying few if any taxes, and many of them complaining when those who pay taxes get their taxes cut. The revolutionary war was about the problems created by taxation without representation. We now face the new and different problems created by representation without any sort of proportional taxation in a setting where one political party instigates class envy.
cggj1997 2 years ago
gstrocknroller, taxes cuts for the rich are a good thing... a poor man wont give you a job... a rich man paying more in taxes will export jobs into a competitive market...
Milt0nBradley 2 years ago
But the question is, where is the right place for the tax rate to be? The answer to every problem can't be "tax cuts" as most conservative/republican types like to propose. Where is the right balance? They don't give an answer to that question, just responding with "more tax cuts". Taxes for the top percentile are already too low and this is contributing to the economic crisis we are in today.
gstrocknroller 2 years ago
Actually patroitism is more than just a flag lapel pin and saying the pledge of allegiance. Obama does love this country and he doesn't need to wrap himself in the flag to prove it.
dino0967 2 years ago
the dude that made this commercial is a douche
deathspa202 2 years ago
fuck jeremiah wright, if he hates America he should get the hell out
negativ90 2 years ago
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Niflheim85 2 years ago
lolll dis commercial is soo true. i mean hes president now, and he already sold u to the koreans and the afghanis, and then made jeremiah wright VP. and da new office slogan s "NONONO NOT GOD BLESS AMERICA. GOD DAMN AMERICA"
hahahha u fuckin right wingers make me laugh. sit soo far up ur own asses U believe everything thats spewed to you. oh yah, what ever happened to obama's turban, wasn't he an al qaeda afilliate dat goes to a church? haha all these bullshit accusations conflict!!!!!!
DeadCee 2 years ago
you don't know what a terrorist is...
ERAUPRCWA 2 years ago
1. the airplane was owned by North American Airlines... when the lease was up he had to change the paint scheme of the a/c, the American flag is the copyrighted symbol of the a/c he had to change it.
2. the 911 clip of him explaining why he won't wear the flag pin, is misleading and didn't fully share his explanation. which was...
Wearing the flag pin doesn't mean anything, our flag does not represent us, WE as American represent the flag, the terrorist didn't attack the flag they attacked US.
ERAUPRCWA 2 years ago 2
Obama's an unpatriotic pro abortio socialist.
ivankaman21 2 years ago
Considering he is a member of the democratic party, I don't think he is much of a socialist. This is the problem with the American publics use of political terms. The American right abuse terms such as anarchism, libertarianism, socialism, liberalism and use them for people who are none of those things.
Pommit 2 years ago
Wow, have you not been paying attention to anything Obama has been saying EVER? This guy has incredibly troubling communist proclivities and socialist sympathies. All this talk about nationalizing banks and interfering in private enterprise. are you kidding me? Obama is shitting all over capitalism and the constitution.
delphi270 2 years ago
He is not a communist and will not have community proclivities, what a silly thing to day. He may have socialist policies, but often these are good things and I think necessary. Natioanlising bank and interfering with private enterprise? You know why that is happening don't you? Even Bush would have had to have taken those stuff. Market fundamentalism is over.
Pommit 2 years ago 3
how can someone take you seriously when you can't form a grammatically correct, coherent response?
delphi270 2 years ago
Coherence is difficult to achieve in these little boxes when there is so much to say. As for my grammar, if it is really bad then I apologise, but I doubt it is bad enough to lead people to stop taking me seriously.
Pommit 2 years ago
I think your message does that job well enough
delphi270 2 years ago
By voting for me you have entrusted me with you and your childrens future and to establish America once again to it true greatness!
Alle wir müssen Sozialopfer für das bettermeant unseres Landes aushalten! Wir arbeiten, weil Arbeit selfworth zum überlegenen amerikanischen Rennen einflößen! Ich stelle Amerika da die Mitte der Weltmacht her, wie sie sein sollte! Zusammen mit der Hilfe meiner nahen Verfechter EICHEL stellen wir ein reicht her, das 1000 Jahre dauert!! Heil Obama! Heil Obama!
antiochblade 2 years ago
Sad part is thats true.
reddog223 2 years ago
patriotism is irrational. period.
what exactly is one supposed to be proud of? the government? the physical landscape? the history? all of these are flawed to the point of shame (the second one is simply subjective). patriotism is a floating abstaction.
fede2 2 years ago
I can understand why people are proud over america, I mean it is a very big country wirth rich culture, climate, and a interesting history.
Let them be proud if they feel good about it.
Imhornydadcomeinside 2 years ago
I've said it before and I swear to GOD I will die saying it. Patriotism is about FREEDOM. Not American Government. Not The American Flag. Not Anything, Other Than FREEDOM!
TwiztedAnimator 2 years ago
Patriotism is about freedom? How is this the case? Patriotism has nothing to do with freedom? Would you explain?
Pommit 2 years ago
Your confusing patriotism with nationalism you moron. And I hate to break it to you, but all evidence points to the United States as the greatest, most just, most free country on earth. If you don't believe that, keep drinking the koolaid the far left forces down your throat and go whine about the "Israeli war of aggression" or some other totally bullshit idea your kind spews.
delphi270 2 years ago
Actually I am not confusing them at all, explain how if you believe so! All the evidence does not point to America being the greatest, the question is largely meaningless unless you ask exactly what crtieria is used. Is the economy? The military? The largest? Most liberal? Most god-fearing? But I don't know what you mean most JUST?
I have never heard of Koolaid. As for Isaeli War of Aggression, what does that have to do anything? Patriotism is the bullshit idea.
Pommit 2 years ago
Pommit, if you ever lived in both Europe and America you'd know exactly what he's talking about. I would never in a million years go back to living in Europe. The US has its flaws, sure, everybody recognizes that, but the US is easily the greatest place on earth to live. In regards to standard of living, the economy, health care (I experienced both systems first hand, so I don't care about some weird European study claiming otherwise), education and--not to forget--freedom the US is superior.
ChallengeDK 2 years ago
American people have the most freedoms. That is true. Standards of living are not the highest in the world but one of the highest. Education is not the best. And certainly the health care system is appalling in its individualistic basis for provision. There are many aspects of the U.S. which are better than other countries. But simply saying the greatest doesn't mean much. I could think the UK was better, for example, in being generally more liberal.
Pommit 2 years ago 3
What is greatest, of course, is what you define it to be. The Mullahs is Iran probably don't like freedom so very much, so they will probably not have freedom as a criterion for greatness. I think that most people will come to love America upon visiting. In fact, most of my family and friends in Europe who visited America certainly liked it much better than Europe - not that Europe doesn't have it's qualities, of course. Still, Id much rather be poor in the US than rich anywhere else.
ChallengeDK 2 years ago
Europe is not one country. France is very different from Germany, which is very different from Poland or Sweden. But undoubtedly your standard of life is likely to be better if poor and living in Europe. But why would you think it is better to live in the US when poor rather than in a European country? And from my understanding the mid-west of the states is very different to the north-east or the western seaboard.
Pommit 2 years ago 2
The reason for my preference does not stem from looking objectively at standard of living;. It is just an acknowledgement that I would prefer living in America over any other country, no matter my financial status. Of course rich people in Europe are better off than your poor American, strictly financially and quality of life speaking.
Of course I acknowledge the differences in European countries. The differences are not as substantial as to not being able to apply broad generalizations, though.
ChallengeDK 2 years ago
Well I was interested in why America is preferable. What are these broad generalisations?
Pommit 2 years ago
it isn't so strange that Obama don't like/love usa when e will destroy it. Us dollar will collapse and usa will not longer be usa. but instead it will be the North American Union. look it up if you don't believe me.
Belgasi 2 years ago
Patriotism? Oh my god, I really do think in many ways America is a wonderful country, but patriotism, what a load of shit. Patriotism is something for soundrels and fools. It is complete rubbish. Why is it necessary? How does it make sense? I think patriotism, Americans faith in their political system, and religion are the worst things about the country. A heavily indoctrinated society in general. (The UK is little better, however)
Pommit 3 years ago 2
you took the words right out of my mouth
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TwiztedAnimator 2 years ago
Hey Red Coat, how are you doing? How's Big Brother Government Control working in the U.K? Do you like your Socialized Health Care? How about your Privacy? Oh Yeah, you have none. With all of those camera's on the street corners it's a wonder how you people even spit without getting a ticket. Go Fuck Yourself. I'll die fighting for Freedom before I go to war for this Tyrannical Government.
TwiztedAnimator 2 years ago
Redcoat? Had to check your age there as it was such a stupid thing to say. Think you are making the mistake of thinking I am some patriotic. I hate the UK government and the surveillance. And American is the most free nation in the world. But my criticism is of the foolish patriotism that's is so prevalent in US society. As for socialised healthcare, believe me, nobody would want to the US system! How will die for freedom? Grow up.
Pommit 2 years ago
How is it foolish to be patriotic
reddog223 2 years ago
Because it is based on spurious claims on one people being better than other. Also tries to unify everything to do with a country without actually recognising that they are not related, so for example people start raving about ther government, their military, and their people as if they are all excellent, the best, or do good. And there are plenty of things bad about a country than good when assess using the same criteria.
Pommit 2 years ago
It has nothing to do with being better then others it just has to do with the fact of being proud of your country which is not being foolish
reddog223 2 years ago
But to be proud of your country would be to ignore all the shameful and wrongful things that your country is involved in.
Pommit 2 years ago
And exactily what shameful things is my country invovled in ?
reddog223 2 years ago
I am talking about bad things that all countries have done or been involved in. I am not just referring to the USA alone. But torture in Guantanomo, the invasion of Iraq, bullying of Iran and Venezuala are recent ones and just foreign policy ones.
Pommit 2 years ago
Actually it has alot to with being part of the dying species of the "American White Males". Pretty soon, this country will be run by spicks and spooks.
Secretvideo09 2 years ago
Id rather you not use such words but sadly liberals do think that all patriots are racest white guys
reddog223 2 years ago
Regan was slime.
hawanja 3 years ago
What makes you think that Regan was slime? Was it because he was for Smaller Government or was it because he was for Peace and Freedom? Maybe it is because he made those Germans Tear Down That Wall. Yeah, he was such a bad guy......
TwiztedAnimator 2 years ago
Reagan actually increased the size of government. And he certainly wasn't for Peace or Freedom. One need only wonder what why he would wish to begin a new arms race with the Strategic Defence Initiative, and then you have the invasion of Grenada.
Pommit 2 years ago
It's because he closed down all the health clinics, and created an underclass of homeless insane people. That's why I said "he's slime."
hawanja 2 years ago
how stupid must america be to elect a president who wont even put a hand over his heart during the pledge of allegience. how UN-american is that?
juraikken 3 years ago
Thanks to Communism, that is what we have received. Our schools are run by the government. We are not told the truth about the United States founding fathers. We are told that they were slave owners and drunks. Our culture is being destroyed by our government. There has been a influx of illegal aliens who do not practice American cluture. They see us as the Tyrants because the Government who let them in to this country have told them we are wrong and the Government is right.
TwiztedAnimator 2 years ago
You think communism is why you have a state? I think you need to read more about the purpose of a state in society but it has nothing to do with communism. Are they really teaching such rubbish about founding fathers? I have never heard of them being slave owners or drunks, but they might have been. As for immigrants, well they have every right to be in the US. But I may agree with you with saying that government is bad full stop, no matter what liberal democracy we talk about, U.S., U.K. etc
Pommit 2 years ago
it depends on the type of immigrants
if their illegal, they're no good.
And btw, legal imigrants => europeans illegal immigrants => Mexican
WestCoastBay 2 years ago
Didn't understand that. What do you mean?
Pommit 2 years ago
on the mentioning that immigration is bad, i think different. It all depends on what kind of immigration the US receives. Mostly legal immigrants are the source of good labor. Recently however, too many illegals have crossed the border (mainly Mexicans) just to take benefits and contribute very little to the prosperity of america
WestCoastBay 2 years ago
This man is quoting Ronald Reagan this era is over .America values got them 911 and a war .
misteeq64 3 years ago
You said that if ceremonial protocal are made optional they aren't protocal. Then you called me retarded, but this is one of the worst arguements you've made yet. Fact is, I don't want them to be protocal, so it's a damn good thing they wouldn't be protocal anymore. And yes, if we are forced to show are patriotism ceremoniously (your precious protocal) that is a form of nationalism. The fact that you think anything in patriotism should be protocal is ludicrous.
KidA2357 3 years ago
"You said that if"
--You intentionally misunderstood it. A protocol (ex. removing your hat & putting it over your heart in observance of the national anthem) is not optional. The protocol doesn't read "put your hat over your heart.....or not." THAT'S what it means, you idiot.
"a form of nationalism"
--Only to empty, hateful, lying, America-haters like you. Why don't you make us all happy & go live somewhere else?
"The fact that you think"
--The fact that you're 16 means you don't know shit.
NoGuff 3 years ago
for fuck's sake dude, settle down. I don't want there to be protocal, get that through your head. I understand that protocal is not optional. I'm trying to communicate that protocal cannot exhist within patriotism in America. That's really the only arguement you made, so it's all i can comment on. The rest was just mean little personal attacks on my age and how I "Hate America". And from now, on if you have no points to make, just don't post, don't just attack me to make yourself seem superior
KidA2357 3 years ago
"I understand that protocal is not optional"
--Only after I explained it to you.
"protocal cannot exhist within patriotism"
--That's not what you were arguing, you idiot. Why is it that debating with Liberals means chasing a moving target? It's so lame.
"don't just attack me to make yourself seem superior"
--I'm not, I'm correcting your grossly misinformed little brain. You don't know shit from shinola yet you're telling ME what things mean and what's what in the world? Give me a break!
NoGuff 3 years ago
OK, I gotta say, I'm done with this. What satrted as a decent civil and well-thought-out arguement on both sides, has become an arguement about the meaning of protocal, which coinidntally we are noth using 100% correctly. Other than that if you don't count your random insults that you seem to now spout instead of decent points as you did in the beginning, than this is not a debate or even a conversation in any sense of the word, so i gotta stop it here before it gets even dumber
KidA2357 3 years ago
Good. You should stop. And I'm using the word protocol correctly, you just don't understand.
And the more ridiculous stuff you write, the more insults you deserve.
NoGuff 3 years ago
The idea you propose in putting forth the proposition that patriotism should be showed through protocal is nationalism, something you accuse me of supporting. I support show of patriotism and even patriotism itself to be left to the individual to decide, if we are forced to all love our country and do it in the exact same way everyone else does, and be badmouthed if you refuse, that is nationilisim.
KidA2357 3 years ago
"The idea you propose in putting forth the proposition that patriotism should be showed through protocal is nationalism"
--No, I'm (pointlessly) trying to inform you that patriotism is love & respect for your country, and that all politicians should be patriots, because if they are not then they are detriments to our nation. But I think that's too complicated for you. You are obviously a simpleton.
NoGuff 3 years ago
of course, politicians should be patriotic, we don't want them running countries they don't care for. Are disagreement is in how patriotism should (orin your case must) be shown, you said it is "love and respect" for your country. I think Obama has that, the point I'm trying to make is that the fact that if he doesn't want to show it through symbol worship, there's nothing wrong with that. Also to when i said "If we're forced to patriotic," I think it's pretty obvious I meant "To be patriotic"
KidA2357 3 years ago
"through symbol worship"
--Such as? This is not a religious government, we have no symbol worship. Not only that, but the idea of symbol worship is pagan.
"I think it's pretty obvious I meant"
--Not to me, or anyone else.
NoGuff 3 years ago
well said.
devni12 3 years ago
I listened to your ignorance and hate does that mean that I am a follower of you? Does everything you hear from those around you state who you are? Were the people who went to Haggars church as homoloving drug users?
powerhouston 3 years ago
"Obama is no Ronald Reagan" and that's supposed to be a bad thing. Was America really such a beacon under Reagan when you were backing terrorists? (Contras in Nicaragua)
Tony63efc 3 years ago
How shallow is this...no wonder these people thought Sarah Palin was a good canidate
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thatothertemplarguy 3 years ago
I respect Obama for that. Patriotism is measured by who can wave the biggest flag and who puts their hand on their heart during the pledge. To me patriotism is measured by love of freedom or whatever not for symbols. These people who made the video could find a guy who loved his country and did all that good shit, but if he happened to not be wearing a pin are saluting something he's suddenly not patriotic at all. Now that's pretty fucked up right there
KidA2357 3 years ago 2
"To me patriotism is measured by"
--The country is not a symbol. Plus, to what are you being patriotic for when you have a "love for freedom?" Patriotism is not nationalism, it's allegiance to your country. Please stop trying to change the definition of words to suit your Leftist agenda (or out of stupidity).
"but if he happened to not be wearing a pin are saluting something"
--If he loved his country he wouldn't refuse the pin or forget ceremonial protocols. That's part of being patriotic.
NoGuff 3 years ago
The way I used the words is correct. the way i defined patriotism was not as nationilism, That first half of your comment made no sense. You say that patriotism is allegiance to your country. true, in some ways. Unconditional allegience would be foolish, we must accept that wether a country has done bad things or not, all countries have the potential to do bad things. But it is true in the sense that patriotism is allegience to country, when seen as morally right, instead of symbol worship
KidA2357 3 years ago
"But it is true in the sense that patriotism is allegience to country, when seen as morally right, instead of symbol worship"
--That's so dumb. Basically you're saying that what I said was right, so long as it didn't involve the things I said didn't pertain to it. Wow. That's like saying "this hunk of rock is pure igneous rock, so long as there isn't any other kind of rock in it."
NoGuff 3 years ago
You also say "the country is not a symbol", I agree, but things likeforced salutes reduce it to just that. The second part, you say if a man truly loved his country he'd wear the pin and call this a ceremonial protocols. A persons ceremonial protocals of patriotism should be 100% individual, if they are made mandatory than they negate the reson we are patriotic in america, because of the freedoms we are guranteed. if we're forced to patriotic than what we are being patriotic for is abondoned
KidA2357 3 years ago
"A persons ceremonial protocals of patriotism should be 100% individual, if they are made mandatory than they negate the reson we are patriotic in america"
--Then they wouldn't be protocols anymore. Damn you're retarded!
"if we're forced to patriotic"
--There is no such thing. That's like saying "forced to love" something or someone. Are you a 3 year old? I ask because it seems you have a total and complete lack of logical reasoning skills.
NoGuff 3 years ago
good job, you lost.
jorgemexicali 3 years ago