Income Tax Truth Tom Cryer 2/3

[RetSquid]

“The taxpayer next argues that wages are not income but an exchange of property. As money is property and labor is property, so his argument goes, his work for wages is a non-taxable exchange of property. Wrong again. Wages are income...The argument that they are not has been rejected so frequently that the very raising of it justifies the imposition of sanctions.”

Connor v. Commissioner

[longfootbuddy]

people are fooled by theyr ignorance of history and speech...its a dirty trick thats been pulled in the supposed land of the free...people are so used to being submissive to what they percieve as the authorities, they dont even question it... it all stems from the stupidity and ignorance of the american people...theyr brainwashed into accepting slavery and calling it freedom.. i cant believe vast amounts of people arent outraged...its as if a magical spell has been placed on them

[pilot101st]

This is complete bullshit, of course.

He only beat the criminal charges because he convinced the jury that he BELIEVED he owed no taxes. They also believed he had some emotional problems and a few screws loose, which is pretty obvious anyhow.

The court rejected EVERY ONE of his legal and constitutional arguments re: taxes, and is in the process of collectng, civilly, about 1.5M from him, and is now filing against him for 2002-07. He'll lose, as always.

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[pilot101st]

Rational arguments don't usually work on Truthies.

Otherwise, there would be no Truthies.

[beckweth]

Tom Cryer won his case in tax court after they destroyed his life ten years on. Court disallowed him to show ANY evidence, he won by speaking his case.

[polevaultrockstr]

@beckweth everyone should take notice of this and watch these videos and read the important secitons of the tax code so you can recite them in court if and when you are prosocuted by the IRS.

[averageworkinggal]

Cryer is an idiot - the Supreme Court did define constitutional income but Cryer refuses to learn what the SCOTUS defined because that would destroy his argument.

The SCOTUS defined income as ascessions to wealth in 1955, which of course includes wages and salaries, which the SCOTUS declared the income tax on wages and salaries as constitutional in Pollock 1895.

The SCOTUS also said that 'Constitutional arguments' are not defenses in tax cases in the Cheek case 1991.

[BeantownJim]

A tax revolt would shut this country down! And end this govt's control on its citizens

[BeantownJim]

IRS reported revenues from last year are down 34% hmmm there could be a tax revolt!

[freddyfresh29]

what if someone wins the lottery? would that be income?

[BeantownJim]

capitol gains tax

[pokertime1]

Does this apply to Revenue Canada? Can I fight not paying income tax here? if so, then how or where can i get more info?

[l1onheart617]

canadian tax lawer

[nameofthepen]

Excellent. And I hope this fine man understands that he needs to be vigilant for his safety. Nothing will make the crime network who run the IRS/IMF more murderous than exposing their fraudulent theft-mode to the sheeple.

[rogueweapon]

you said it brother.

[rogueweapon]

I did research this more after the show was posted and found out that old Tommy here is a 32 degree freemason, you think that had anything to do with him winning the case?

[nameofthepen]

I wish you could have heard the burst of laughter that just exploded upon my reading of your comment.

Yeah, that sure could have stacked the deck.

Or maybe he just chanted "supercalifragisticexpialidoci­ous" at the judge and jury? :D

Peace, good person. :)

[phillipgaley]

yeah, . . . in the 80s, just before his IRS trial in US District Court, in Portland Oregon, Don Pallet--a big mason--told an audience that, he had "a brother" on his jury, telling us that, there wasn't really anything to worry about--he'd be all right. And sure enough, . . . "not guilty", . . . so, . . . But I did want to say, don't get mixed up in groups, 'cause, when martial law is declared, just like the raided NCBA, those membership lists, e-mail lists, will be most useful--it warn't pretty.

[sniped101]

im going to need this guy to help me with my case

[InfoWarriorMaverick]

Can you reference that?

[whatvideowhere]

even judges cant change the constitution and other foundational documents they can only interpret / extrapolate on it

[whatvideowhere]

ben frank said no democracy lasts more than 100years that's part of why him and others made a constitutional republic cause in a full fledged democracy you can vote away foundation rules rights and laws and who the god is the country honours

[rarelibra]

You are only liable for income taxes if you are a federal employee (civilian gov't, military, etc). This includes monies from the gov't, like Social Security and Medicare.

[eklypse0]

rarelibra

I have to dispute this, unfortunately. There are two other groups that are liable to pay 'income taxes'. That is, aliens who come to work in the US and anyone who is invested in a federal privilege.

The employee part is for Subtitle C 'Employment' taxes. Which in that case, government employees would be correct.

Income as presented in 'subtitle A' includes compensation for 'employees', aliens working in the US and profit severed from capitol in a federal privilege.

[rarelibra]

Doesn't sound like a dispute to me. My whole point is the regular "Joe plumber" isn't supposed to be required, especially with their bullshit "voluntary compliance".

[eklypse0]

I just don't want people to walk into a court room with incorrect information on the subject. You're argument is with 'income tax', but using an 'employment tax' rules.

There is a lot of pitfalls that the courts will tear you up on, and 'only government employees need to pay income taxes' is a big one, because it isn't true and your case would be dead using it.

[rarelibra]

There are PLENTY of cases that have been won now, it is gaining momentum. The "employment tax" doesn't slide and has NO foundation.

[almartin77]

Men like Ben Franklin are hard to find in today's America. What we have more of in the USA are communist who have NO idea that they are communist.

[almartin77]

Tom is telling it like it is.

[passitkitdotcom]

once you clearly learn the truth,understand your rights and realize how they use legalees to attempt to confuse. you cant go along with the scam.