StarCraft 2 - [Z] Nydus Response to Cannon Wall In - Strategy

[theloloabc]

Theoretically you could go banelings... right? xD

[theloloabc]

@GUARDIANOFFOR True that. It happened to me. Made a nydus and he raped me with sentries zealots and stalkers xD

[wanted888ghost]

that helped a lot thanks

[LordGoreBlack]

the only ''don't like'' is the Protoss

[RippedJester808]

lol i usually sit inside my base and cry regardless :P

[DjAstral100]

WOW this is such a nerdy game, with nerdy people....

SO CALL ME NERDY!!

[Agora2021]

Zerg is my favorite race.

[lorddragoon001]

Personally Id just creep up to the edge of my ramp and place a spine crawler which would snipe the pylons and out of range of the cannons......just sayin

[Savci008]

@lorddragoon001 You can't do that. You can't place your spine on the ramp's top in a position where it reaches the cannons or the pylons without being hit.

[Sanksion]

@Savci008 how could the pylons have vision up there from the bottom ? until a ir unit no way ... huh ?

[Savci008]

@Sanksion Your'll find your main oftentimes blocked in a way where is no place where the spine

1, can be rooted

2, can reach the cannons on the bottom

3, cannot be targeted by the cannons (=is on HG)

[lorddragoon001]

@Savci008 I Know that I can because Ive done it myself.

[Savci008]

@lorddragoon001 It is impossible if the enemy does it right.

[lorddragoon001]

Personally Id just creep up to the edge of my ramp and place a spine crawler which would snipe the psylons and out of range of the cannons......just sayin

[SuperAwsomeSauce1997]

What graphics do you use for creep?.... it looks really cool

[josecarlosamador]

Sorry guys, I dont play SC2 yet. What do pylons do exactly? They provide energy for structures right? Do they do anything else? (increasing other stats, etc)?

[ragnarokohyeah]

@josecarlosamador

They increase the supply

[elhomosatirus]

hey that was cool

[dudealive1]

@ForceSC2strategy is this gold leauge?

[dragontav]

The problem with nydus is that it only succeeds if your opponent is unprepared as this guy was, otherwise you loose your attack and come out behind; usually an early speedling nydus doesn't work even against hard ai.

[GlacialFang]

teran: seige or drop or reapers

zerg: over lords or nydus or baneling bust the pylons or roaches

protoss: warpgates with a warp prism, or colossi or immortals

[lilstarcraft]

i hate when people leave without saying GG after they try doing something cheap and cheesy.

[eeg10]

lol i love how u always point out the one hydralisk.

[Villiscaband1]

everyone is so against nyddus I use it all the time

[oldmaster123098]

Why not use an overlord to drop a drone on low ground and expand? Also, can't u just bling bust the cannons? Both of those strats worked for me.

[lilstarcraft]

@oldmaster123098 baneling bust would waste alot of money and teching to dropping overlords would take a long time to get to another spot to drop it unless you get speed upgrade too which would cost more money. so this is the most cost efficent way of doing it.

[Sachems49]

couldnt you have just overlord dropped a drone on the lower ground and then expanded?

[vladamirrrr]

@Sachems49 well yea, but you'd be able to do that much later since you have to upgrade it and it costs a lot also

[Sachems49]

@vladamirrrr oh yeah thats right good point

[TheHardWooD]

i liked this one, but he could of took out those pylons with just the queen because those cannons don't have vision up the ramp

[vikingninja1994]

i just did this and complete raped him thanks for the great vids force

[jrm102]

All your bases belong to us.

[SadManFreakTard]

how did he get Lair? i dont see an infestation pit anywhere :/

[blajanell]

@SadManFreakTard he needs the infestation pit just for the hive..not the lair :P

[foghorn200]

@SadManFreakTard Lmao, I-Pit is tier 2 dude, you need a lair to build an i-pit

[richard2mitchell]

3:53

wrong 1 SC can poke at them whats that? 150 mins?

[blowfisch1983]

I do not understand why we should leave a small gap open while cannoning the zerg in - There must be a reason for it but I just can think of none.

[bluetoaster8822]

lol last game, some jerk tried to put barracks right outside my base... To get back at him, I nydused his base with a ton of Hydralisks. He dropped from the game.

[Goldeye15]

thank you for posting this, this has been an invaluable strategy for me lately.

[ChewyTWY]

lol at no gg from protoss

[LosxOsos]

Your videos and your commentary is just amazing. By far you have bumped in my spot of "Favorite to watch" only being slightly below Day 9. Though if I made a list you would be even in each of your respective categories.

Do you livestream your matches by chance? Be cool to watch how you play if you did.

[123JumpingJacks]

I play silver league and basically all toss players go cannons voidray. I counter this with emp rines but, how do Zerg counter this. If you nydus roaches and you get there and their are three voidrays with two on the way your done.

[ChaosZero]

@123JumpingJacks If your scout dies by cannons at or near chokepoint then there's a 80% chance the player will be massing void rays for game. Counter with hydralisk / roach while morphing some spore cannons, hydralisk and 2 queens to protect your base from any void ray harassment.

[Winbond]

SIT IN THE BASE AND CRY LOL

[astalavista451]

couldn't u simply attack with ur queen from the high ground?

[Tinnguyen123]

@astalavista451 i think the protoss player woulda just build some pylon bhind the cannons if the queen do atack... and the zerg player probably thought there's more than 2 cannon to block his base..

[smocca462]

@astalavista451

I don't think queens have enough range, however you can extend creep up to your ramp and then use a spinecrawler to clear the way safely.

[astalavista451]

@smocca462 actually i tested the queen idea and found that it is very difficult and just plain not worth it to try because not only is ur queen vulnerable to zealots but the cannons also have to be in just the right positions for the queen to even hit them. i attempted my idea on a guy that bunker contained me and after failing with the queen i nydus'ed the guy and eventually won the game with my teammate. simply ignore the cannons and go for the nydus like the vid says. it's worked twice for me

[eandjproductions2]

We weren't going to let that happened

[xDexTax]

Protoss counter is warp Prism gotta love them DT warp in xD

[stradric]

Wouldn't you be able to take out those pylons with long-range hydras from high-ground without getting spied by the canons? Although I guess using that false sense of security worked out.

[mikoal]

what will make you decide between mutas, lord drop, nydus or bane bust?

couldnt zerg bane bust the pylons there?

[musicgetto]

@mikoal I believe IdrA used zerglings to break the pylons, but he might've upgraded them to withstand a few cannon shots

[ColrathD]

@musicgetto He got spine crawlers at the top of the base to kill the pylons, then the zerglings killed the cannons when they were powered down.

[captive411]

Alright already with the "we" did this and that. Unless you're splitting the keyboard with whoever the zerg player is you should probably be saying "he". Otherwise, great vid. Thanks. I'm struggling with my zerg play.

[Kiris86]

Very nice :D Never happened to me yet, but Im prepared now :)

[rsvmaker878]

what map is this?

[mannhingkhor]

@rsvmaker878 lost temple

[Shleague]

@rsvmaker878 The good old temple

[TacMagical]

nice idea, havent had this happen to me before but will do this if it does lol

[mitchy030]

first

[mitchy030]

@mitchy030 also id like to add thanks for the Strategy! this happened to me about 30 min ago, took me 49minutes to beat him :S