Every parent choosing an autism treatment for his/her child is advised to select only those interventions deemed "evidence-based." While completing the research phase of my M. Ed. dissertation with respect to Applied Behavioral Analysis (ABA), I addressed the subject of ABA being "evidence-based." If you want to know more about the peer reviews of Lovaas's seminal 1987 study, read my article: search in Google: "ABA study not evidence-based articlesbase"
insulting the child's greater emotional intelligence as well as your own, and as ABA does a magnificent job of (intended or not). As a developmental therapist who has successfully worked with hundreds of families, practices an approach based largely upon DIR/Floortime, and is in agreement with much of Son-Rise I would be more than happy to direct your or others to the neuroscientifc evidence between neuroplasticity and affect-regulation correlated to relationship based based approaches
wow, completely bogus propaganda. The procedures derived from ABA are effective, and have thousands of articles supporting them (yes, very current ones!). they are trying to use one specific form of interpretation of ABA as a catch all for "ABA". shameful, and it is a bigger shame some parents would believe this.
@DanaGarnerBCBA The procedures derived from ABA and the peer reviewed articles that support them are extraordinarily misleading. Indeed, they are "effective", that is to say in inculcating "surface memorized responses" using re-enforced social and environmental contingencies based upon the antiquated and NON-DEVELOPMENTAL principles of operant conditioning. The child reducing inappropriate behaviors and increasing appropriate responses is entirely shameful in its intentional or unintentional
@Neilgs deceit to primary caregivers. The core challenges in ASD is l thinking, relating and communicating, A little word called praxis (i.e., ideation, motor-planning and execution of actions). I suggest you look it up. The ability for caregiver and child to engage in pleasurable reciprocal affect guided circles of communication (facially, bodily, verbally) in contrast to robotic ABA principles (from discrete trial to lesser so PRT). It is the deepening of attachment, understanding...
each child's sensory processing differences (over under, mixed reactivities in proprioceptive, tactile auditory, vestibular, visual spatial) and caregiver relationship patterns in relationship to the child's differences (underbearing overbearing), that creates the zone of true proximal developmental engagement. This then begins to result, as pleasurable but emotional problem solving circles of communication are engaged in healthy emergence of "self" (which amusingly behaviorists don't see ...
the necessity of, i.e., we are all a result of conditioning), and MEANINGFUL language/communication-and- social reciprocity. We impute meaning to a child current actions (including his/her perseverative behaviors), we don't regard them as "meaningless" or "inappropriate" which needs to be "redirected." By forming bonds of pleasurable reciprocity (i.e., doing what the child is doing and adding affect variation) we are building the foundations of meaningful engagement/reciprocity, rather than
This is inaccurate. Recent studies of ABA show that children begin to acquire language before 5 years old and I'm one of them. Son-Rise on its own did not help me; it was the combination. Then again, every child is different and bashing one therapy I don't feel is the best way to market this approach.
Instead, why not have an ABA professional and Raun Kaufman discuss in an interview with a constructive debate (all positive), to support why they feel that their method in particular works.
Son-Rise has been around for over 30 years. Yet, in all that time they've not only failed to produce any research showing that Son-Rise is better than ABA, they've published no good research showing their method can do what they claim. Instead, the Son-Risers make YouTube videos, misrepresenting and denying, individually and collectively, the thousands of studies that make up the scientific support for ABA.
I guess that makes people at Son-Rise the "Birthers" of the autism treatment world.
This "playful video" seems more of a snarky attack on something the creators clearly don't even understand. ABA is not an autism treatment, Applied Behavior Analysis is an applied science of human behavior that INFORMS effective autism treatments.
Applied Behavior Analysis is a field of study: there are degrees from accredited universities, researchers continue to explore applications in controlled and natural environments, and practitioners are board certified through an accredited organization.
The effectiveness of the application of Applied Behavior Analysis is supported not by one 23-year old study, but over 40 years of research in many socially significant areas, autism being but one. This is not just comparing apples and oranges, it's like the maker of a telescope claiming that it's better than Astronomy.
Being a SonRise family for the last 9 years I can say that it worked (works) for us. Our school district did try ABA methods against my suggestion and within a minute brought out a side of our son we have yet to see since and it wasn't pretty. It's about choices which I believe is the message here.
There are other methods proven by studies to work although what is the definition of (success)? Our child is happy which is the most important for us and the added bonus is he is successful beyond all the non believer's dreams.
I guess when what you do is considered evidence based, and there are several journal articles (and journals) dedicated to your field, other therapies use you as a scapegoat. I've got an idea SonRise, rather than trying to get people to try your therapy by bashing others, why don't you try publishing some research and promote your field and therapy that way...but I guess you-tube videos providing erroneous information to families is easier.
Rather than doing the research i suppose we could all develop u tube testimonials and tell everyone that our intervention works that would be much easier...but not scientifically supported....
Although the video clip is entertaining, it is simply NOT accurate. There are over 50 years of research on the use of ABA with students with ASD showing it's efficacy. Research has been conducted in areas such as social skills, language, vocational skills, ADL, academics etc....as a researcher I know of all of the hours that are involved in planning a valid study that allows one to answer a research question. Each study takes hundreds of hours to complete.
Dr. Richard Solomon published a paper several years bacj about play-based, child centered and parent led therapies, showing that parents were extremely effective in helping autistic children with relationships and communication (and more). Although his model uses floortime, his paper was about all developmental (going with the child to inspire growth as opposed to "training" the child) methods.
Every parent choosing an autism treatment for his/her child is advised to select only those interventions deemed "evidence-based." While completing the research phase of my M. Ed. dissertation with respect to Applied Behavioral Analysis (ABA), I addressed the subject of ABA being "evidence-based." If you want to know more about the peer reviews of Lovaas's seminal 1987 study, read my article: search in Google: "ABA study not evidence-based articlesbase"
truthbetold52 8 months ago
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truthbetold52 8 months ago
Being first, doesn't make it FIRST.
NewMusArt 9 months ago
insulting the child's greater emotional intelligence as well as your own, and as ABA does a magnificent job of (intended or not). As a developmental therapist who has successfully worked with hundreds of families, practices an approach based largely upon DIR/Floortime, and is in agreement with much of Son-Rise I would be more than happy to direct your or others to the neuroscientifc evidence between neuroplasticity and affect-regulation correlated to relationship based based approaches
Neilgs 10 months ago
wow, completely bogus propaganda. The procedures derived from ABA are effective, and have thousands of articles supporting them (yes, very current ones!). they are trying to use one specific form of interpretation of ABA as a catch all for "ABA". shameful, and it is a bigger shame some parents would believe this.
DanaGarnerBCBA 11 months ago
@DanaGarnerBCBA The procedures derived from ABA and the peer reviewed articles that support them are extraordinarily misleading. Indeed, they are "effective", that is to say in inculcating "surface memorized responses" using re-enforced social and environmental contingencies based upon the antiquated and NON-DEVELOPMENTAL principles of operant conditioning. The child reducing inappropriate behaviors and increasing appropriate responses is entirely shameful in its intentional or unintentional
Neilgs 10 months ago
@Neilgs deceit to primary caregivers. The core challenges in ASD is l thinking, relating and communicating, A little word called praxis (i.e., ideation, motor-planning and execution of actions). I suggest you look it up. The ability for caregiver and child to engage in pleasurable reciprocal affect guided circles of communication (facially, bodily, verbally) in contrast to robotic ABA principles (from discrete trial to lesser so PRT). It is the deepening of attachment, understanding...
Neilgs 10 months ago
each child's sensory processing differences (over under, mixed reactivities in proprioceptive, tactile auditory, vestibular, visual spatial) and caregiver relationship patterns in relationship to the child's differences (underbearing overbearing), that creates the zone of true proximal developmental engagement. This then begins to result, as pleasurable but emotional problem solving circles of communication are engaged in healthy emergence of "self" (which amusingly behaviorists don't see ...
Neilgs 10 months ago
the necessity of, i.e., we are all a result of conditioning), and MEANINGFUL language/communication-and- social reciprocity. We impute meaning to a child current actions (including his/her perseverative behaviors), we don't regard them as "meaningless" or "inappropriate" which needs to be "redirected." By forming bonds of pleasurable reciprocity (i.e., doing what the child is doing and adding affect variation) we are building the foundations of meaningful engagement/reciprocity, rather than
Neilgs 10 months ago
This is inaccurate. Recent studies of ABA show that children begin to acquire language before 5 years old and I'm one of them. Son-Rise on its own did not help me; it was the combination. Then again, every child is different and bashing one therapy I don't feel is the best way to market this approach.
Instead, why not have an ABA professional and Raun Kaufman discuss in an interview with a constructive debate (all positive), to support why they feel that their method in particular works.
AnnieTigerChucky 1 year ago
Son-Rise has been around for over 30 years. Yet, in all that time they've not only failed to produce any research showing that Son-Rise is better than ABA, they've published no good research showing their method can do what they claim. Instead, the Son-Risers make YouTube videos, misrepresenting and denying, individually and collectively, the thousands of studies that make up the scientific support for ABA.
I guess that makes people at Son-Rise the "Birthers" of the autism treatment world.
atferli 1 year ago 2
This "playful video" seems more of a snarky attack on something the creators clearly don't even understand. ABA is not an autism treatment, Applied Behavior Analysis is an applied science of human behavior that INFORMS effective autism treatments.
behaviorguy1 1 year ago 4
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Applied Behavior Analysis is a field of study: there are degrees from accredited universities, researchers continue to explore applications in controlled and natural environments, and practitioners are board certified through an accredited organization.
behaviorguy1 1 year ago 3
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The effectiveness of the application of Applied Behavior Analysis is supported not by one 23-year old study, but over 40 years of research in many socially significant areas, autism being but one. This is not just comparing apples and oranges, it's like the maker of a telescope claiming that it's better than Astronomy.
behaviorguy1 1 year ago 4
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Being a SonRise family for the last 9 years I can say that it worked (works) for us. Our school district did try ABA methods against my suggestion and within a minute brought out a side of our son we have yet to see since and it wasn't pretty. It's about choices which I believe is the message here.
davidversusautism 1 year ago
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There are other methods proven by studies to work although what is the definition of (success)? Our child is happy which is the most important for us and the added bonus is he is successful beyond all the non believer's dreams.
davidversusautism 1 year ago
I guess when what you do is considered evidence based, and there are several journal articles (and journals) dedicated to your field, other therapies use you as a scapegoat. I've got an idea SonRise, rather than trying to get people to try your therapy by bashing others, why don't you try publishing some research and promote your field and therapy that way...but I guess you-tube videos providing erroneous information to families is easier.
c4raayma 1 year ago
Rather than doing the research i suppose we could all develop u tube testimonials and tell everyone that our intervention works that would be much easier...but not scientifically supported....
86Marymac 1 year ago
Although the video clip is entertaining, it is simply NOT accurate. There are over 50 years of research on the use of ABA with students with ASD showing it's efficacy. Research has been conducted in areas such as social skills, language, vocational skills, ADL, academics etc....as a researcher I know of all of the hours that are involved in planning a valid study that allows one to answer a research question. Each study takes hundreds of hours to complete.
86Marymac 1 year ago
Dr. Richard Solomon published a paper several years bacj about play-based, child centered and parent led therapies, showing that parents were extremely effective in helping autistic children with relationships and communication (and more). Although his model uses floortime, his paper was about all developmental (going with the child to inspire growth as opposed to "training" the child) methods.
jsarbora 1 year ago