ok i just looked the orphan works bill up, and it looks like this is an old issue that has already died. it was never passed in congress in 2008 or 2009. BUT, it can be brought up as new legislation again if someone wants to bad enough. Am i wrong? because i couldn't find anything current on this bill.
google will go out of business if they want this, because everyone will withdraw their stuff by the billions of images and articles and posts. myspace will go out of business, every site will too wherever people post anything.
yeah, this should be posted and spread all over the net, saturation is the key. (so then they will come get this video, register it and take it away from you so no one can hear what you just said....) see how they can control our posts and our media, our cartoons, etc, so the words we say on video cannot be published or seen or heard? IF THEY OWN THE RIGHTS, THEY CAN SUPPRESS IT, CAUSE IT NEVER TO BE HEARD OR SEEN AGAIN! NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR OWN VIDEO MESSAGES!
DUDE. do you realize, they (such as Google) are hiding in the shadows, waiting to pounce, on all these billions of users who have trusted the laws that protect us. SO, we put a ton of our stuff out there in public, thinking it was safe. Others have copied and pasted, embedded, or whatever, til it is all over the place and we cannot retrieve all of it. SO now they think they have us in their greedy paws, and all of a sudden they attack, to scoop up everything we trusted to them on their service.
Ever since I learned about the orphaned works act, I've felt like I'm projectile vomit out of every orifice. Why would they do that?! It is possibly the stupidest thing in the history of america.
this guy doesn't understand. It is a marxist idea that the community owns your work. In russia when it was communist, your art belonged to the "community". it was not yours. Wake up. Socialism is popular these days.
Not to mention the guy who is pushing this bill is Senator Patrick Leahy, of vermont. A socialistic democrat. not a real democrat.
Dude, how would you think that taking things that you do and saying " you have to pay for this for it to be yours " be a GOOD IDEA? How could anyone think it would be a good idea to draw a stick figure and name it fred and then have to pay for it? You are a stupid Americanized fuck.
How can anyone at all think this is OK? Even the big business CEOs and what not should learn to put themselves in the regular person's shoes...I'm assuming that they were somewhat regular for at least 5 minutes in their lives...The world would just be the complete opposite of what it is now...everything cool on the internet etc. would be gone or not what it used to be.
Even if it passed, I doubt they'd wanna take my "controversial" music. Never the less, as someone who is not a corporation such as Disney or Coca-Cola and as one who is an individual, this should never be passed.I hope to God it hasn't either.
This bill has been presented to and rejected by congress on multiple occasions. It keeps popping up, but hopefully it will continue to be shot down. I have an account on DeviantArt, but I've refrained from posting anything original for fear of it being stolen by things like this bill, so I am limited to posting only fanart and the like. This bill needs to die once-and-for-all. How can any new artist gain recognition when this bill threatens to steal any work that they put where it can be seen?
Hey guys! Thanks for watching, I respect you for making me big - Im tearing my page down if this bill goes through.
Thats kind of oxymoronic....Sort of....
How much would it cost to copyright something? I am just curious.
I respect that you should tear the page down if the bill passes. It is unjust, from what I've heard, north of the border. It should not happen, and I agree with your disgust that this is even being considered.
the name of the bill is as misleading as "the patriot act" Nobody would support the bill's content, but the title makes it sound like something you would get behind.
True words of wisdom. If this bill goes through, you can bet that my characters on my DA account are as gone as ghost. An't a single person stealing any of my stuff. This is just total retarded! How could Congress even consider this bill? Can't they picture the kind of hell they'll get from all of the creative minds in this country?
Man that's stupid. I'ma fight this as much as possible and if not I'll take my videos down. ALL THREE OF THEM. xD
But seriously, I will and I'll never share the stories I write or anything (not that I have shared them yet, I'm just saying...). But man that's a STUPID law! =S
tolstoy, that law is like what is already happening... you "own" your videos but unless you payed 50 some dollars per video you did not copyright them... so it would be hard to claim they are yours if someone steals them.
it's way too unpopular to come to fruition. This goes against the first fucking amendment (sort of) well think about it you have the RIGHT to free speech. free speech equals art. ie through the mathematical law of transitive something or other.. first amendment = you have the right to your art.
maybe you think that markism aka communism/socialism is a good idea but no goverment that is or ever be communism is/will be corrupt becuase the leaders will never be straight to da people with all that power
Your totally right. People work hard to draw and make these things and some asshole can just come and pluck your video out and slap a TM mark on it. It kinda sounds like ebaumsworld.
ok.. i had NO idea this was going on. who are they to just get the entire internet information and claim it theres? i find that very suspicous and im going to look in to it. heres a thought. they are trying to stop people from downloading songs from the internet? they are DAMN hipocrites taking what is ours. thank you tolstoy for this video. if you tear your vids down, i hope all your other viewers can understand. theres no other option... peace
ok now since i saw the video you posted this as a response, it explains it. yet its still wrong. every person that has ever created anything unique and "theirs" is at risk. i have a cause for a first video now.. i guess they just want to over power us with money and power.. oh, i hope this comment isnt taken away by those people. i guess i need to register it!
why the fuck isnt this featured yet? WHY? CUS THEY DONT WANT US TO KNOW LOLOLOL but still i agree, i have nothing on the net but if i did i would do the same.
Maybe you should read the agreement when you signed up a little more carefully. You will never get a real email back from someone in power, its a cover letter sent out by one of their go to people. You have to remember that the little guy alone does not matter, together we are as strong as they are. I really hope your not in favor of Barrack Hussein Obama, because he won't help you with anything like this, or unrelated to this.
I HOPE it never does. Don't underestimate the filth that creeps around the senate and congress. We're talking about a group of people who voted in the PATRIOT ACT...3 FUCKING TIMES!! I'm just praying that Obama will reverse that if he gets in.
whoa whoa whoa....metallica...?? i remember back on a vulgora videos said you were burnt out on metllica, oh well, they have had some rough spots, but there new album seems good, and they do care about the people....and goddamn i am way off subject lol.
The metallica reference is to the fact that they're one of the few musicians who openly oppose and give gay speeches about internet piracy, in spite of the fact that the same people who DOWNLOAD their music probably go to their concerts and buy their T-shirts and SIGN THEIR PAYCHECKS. Kid Rock is on that shit list as well.
very true, i hate when they do that, its different whens a new band u seal from that have not been signed, cause pretty much in the music world, the most of your money is made at your shows, and with the new bands, if they get pirated befor they can put out big, then they don't get PR, and signed,ect then can't make no money.
thats why metaliica was partial haters, because its like, how much money do you need, i buy your shirts, and sometimes your cds, but St anger!!!thats a slap in the face!
Thanks for making a video response on this subject. Nice to see people like you are out there taking action against these types of things. Good work. 5/5
well it is nice to see an american who respects other peoples stuff ^.^ but if this gets pasted wouldent it null evry thing about the internet? and it is the worst thing thay could do
i cant see it happening, im tellin ya everyone will freak till its revoked, even though most of america is lazy. this would even affect famous musicians demo CDs, no more demo cds for us, they'd have to keep it on the downlow till they have it finished and they've paid. artists everyone. it aint goin down without a fight.
THAT IS FUCKING BULL SHIT, What kind of stupid motherfucker could think this is a good idea??? This damn well be fake or not go through, Tolstoy if you make a petition i have alot of people who will sign it so keep us posted for the possibility of a petition.
Man this is just like what happened with the whole downloading music thing but it's happening to everything (at least thats what I get out of this). I wouldn't blame you for taking down whats yours, this is your art. I'm with ya all the way T-K-E.
this is for like dead people/ ill people that make a image/programme/anything that it cant be used any more(cant really ask them). i kinda like it but this is coming from some one that's a fan of (CC). but i dont think it should cost cash. that's just wrong. i do STRONGLY believe that if you make it its up to you to do anything you want to do with it.
also there is a lot of crazy things being proposed to congress that have been turned down.
This can't happen their r 2 many original things out their and it's almost like stealing other people's work if this bill passes
TheOreoyoyo 6 months ago
ok i just looked the orphan works bill up, and it looks like this is an old issue that has already died. it was never passed in congress in 2008 or 2009. BUT, it can be brought up as new legislation again if someone wants to bad enough. Am i wrong? because i couldn't find anything current on this bill.
theCosmicQueen 1 year ago
google will go out of business if they want this, because everyone will withdraw their stuff by the billions of images and articles and posts. myspace will go out of business, every site will too wherever people post anything.
theCosmicQueen 1 year ago
yeah, this should be posted and spread all over the net, saturation is the key. (so then they will come get this video, register it and take it away from you so no one can hear what you just said....) see how they can control our posts and our media, our cartoons, etc, so the words we say on video cannot be published or seen or heard? IF THEY OWN THE RIGHTS, THEY CAN SUPPRESS IT, CAUSE IT NEVER TO BE HEARD OR SEEN AGAIN! NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR OWN VIDEO MESSAGES!
theCosmicQueen 1 year ago
DUDE. do you realize, they (such as Google) are hiding in the shadows, waiting to pounce, on all these billions of users who have trusted the laws that protect us. SO, we put a ton of our stuff out there in public, thinking it was safe. Others have copied and pasted, embedded, or whatever, til it is all over the place and we cannot retrieve all of it. SO now they think they have us in their greedy paws, and all of a sudden they attack, to scoop up everything we trusted to them on their service.
theCosmicQueen 1 year ago
this is stupid, even though we are just normal people they are our creations!
skellyboy2557 2 years ago
Oh my, is this, still floating around???? It'
s crazy!!
Drelvon 2 years ago
Ever since I learned about the orphaned works act, I've felt like I'm projectile vomit out of every orifice. Why would they do that?! It is possibly the stupidest thing in the history of america.
spiritwolf596 2 years ago
did you even notice your dog walk into the kitchen
Megamariosonicman 2 years ago
Lol, well, if IT does pass, Google will find out the hard way that what they like ain't there no more.
TXComics 2 years ago
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who gives a crap ya dumb sak a shit
kroak9 2 years ago
You fail at grammar and spelling. F
Mcs0710 2 years ago
is it any surprise. the world is owned by corporations.
Decebal825 2 years ago
this guy doesn't understand. It is a marxist idea that the community owns your work. In russia when it was communist, your art belonged to the "community". it was not yours. Wake up. Socialism is popular these days.
Not to mention the guy who is pushing this bill is Senator Patrick Leahy, of vermont. A socialistic democrat. not a real democrat.
cmmnyc 3 years ago
Dude, how would you think that taking things that you do and saying " you have to pay for this for it to be yours " be a GOOD IDEA? How could anyone think it would be a good idea to draw a stick figure and name it fred and then have to pay for it? You are a stupid Americanized fuck.
pizzatay6378797 3 years ago 3
Dox-Hound sounds cool
Sega32xdude 3 years ago
Really?
How can anyone at all think this is OK? Even the big business CEOs and what not should learn to put themselves in the regular person's shoes...I'm assuming that they were somewhat regular for at least 5 minutes in their lives...The world would just be the complete opposite of what it is now...everything cool on the internet etc. would be gone or not what it used to be.
shingo7772 3 years ago
Wow, this is serious?
I swear to God, America is slowly stripping the rights of the people, and eventually we're gonna be in a fucking Dictatorship.
AsteriskGamer 3 years ago 3
The problem with the internet - There is no "taking it down." Once your stuff is up, it ain't leaving.
homestar92 3 years ago
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stude444 3 years ago
u can once u take it down in the first 10 mins of it being up cause once someone else gets their hands on it ur screwed
Zhyxosu 3 years ago
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i licked a poo off my shoe and licked it off the wall and in the loo my nan licks it to and it tastes like urine,vomit and chicken to.
haywoodbadman10 3 years ago
Even if it passed, I doubt they'd wanna take my "controversial" music. Never the less, as someone who is not a corporation such as Disney or Coca-Cola and as one who is an individual, this should never be passed.I hope to God it hasn't either.
KissMeImPunk 3 years ago
This bill has been presented to and rejected by congress on multiple occasions. It keeps popping up, but hopefully it will continue to be shot down. I have an account on DeviantArt, but I've refrained from posting anything original for fear of it being stolen by things like this bill, so I am limited to posting only fanart and the like. This bill needs to die once-and-for-all. How can any new artist gain recognition when this bill threatens to steal any work that they put where it can be seen?
gaaralikescookies 3 years ago 2
it IIIIIIESSS! lol
willsoe 3 years ago
lol, the church of satan or VIACOM.
eggertstwart 3 years ago
sound like communism
Durken316 3 years ago
I guess its a good thing that I live in the UK then :P
theblackparade7 3 years ago
lol unlike metalicare
crustymethaddict 3 years ago
i mean metalica....
crustymethaddict 3 years ago
future quote from viacom; " all your stuff are belong to us"!!
pizzatay6378797 3 years ago 3
LAWL
TolstoyKafkaEvsky 3 years ago
Hey guys! Thanks for watching, I respect you for making me big - Im tearing my page down if this bill goes through.
Thats kind of oxymoronic....Sort of....
How much would it cost to copyright something? I am just curious.
I respect that you should tear the page down if the bill passes. It is unjust, from what I've heard, north of the border. It should not happen, and I agree with your disgust that this is even being considered.
mrmcman1616 3 years ago
Well, I'm not sure how much it would cost, but I can't afford to copyright EVERYTHING I DO. Anyway...
TolstoyKafkaEvsky 3 years ago
normaly (in canada) its like 200$
coolninjatv 3 years ago
I'm worried about my videos. They were good ideas, and I don't have money to keep them my own. Thats bull!
CTU51115 3 years ago
jeez black people can get there vioce across where have i been does this meen i have to give up my slaves or could i hide them in my shed?
mjdoomreviews 3 years ago
would they be able to to steal stuff from your website?
kidwithalightsaber 3 years ago
wait,im dumd and must have missed this.who dose the money u pay go to?
flartnard 3 years ago
god america sucks!!!!
pizzatay6378797 3 years ago 5
some ones gonna steal mean kitty song :(
wiiman1099 3 years ago
you got 3000 suscribers
Phantom9442 3 years ago
Google If your looking Fuckelagsterjabets, I just made up a new swear word, Are you gonna take it from me you Fuckelagersterjabets.
quote55 3 years ago
haha.. what an ending!
seriously though, I do agree with u
willsoe 3 years ago
wait what happens to the people that have uploaded stuff like naruto episodes could they then trademark naruto?
aunshi360 3 years ago
naruto sucks so does america
purplehaze007 3 years ago
bitch
manjerl 3 years ago
Taking what others have put their work into? Bullshit! Who came up with that?
kumakun17 3 years ago
black people :o
purplehaze007 3 years ago
You've the whole abe lincoln look down pat. All you're missing is your tophat
TaintedBySmoke 3 years ago
Wow....that's handy information, however...
TolstoyKafkaEvsky 3 years ago
the name of the bill is as misleading as "the patriot act" Nobody would support the bill's content, but the title makes it sound like something you would get behind.
wakeangel2001 3 years ago
True words of wisdom. If this bill goes through, you can bet that my characters on my DA account are as gone as ghost. An't a single person stealing any of my stuff. This is just total retarded! How could Congress even consider this bill? Can't they picture the kind of hell they'll get from all of the creative minds in this country?
guyver21 3 years ago
nobody would steal my work
trust me
crammage 3 years ago
Just bullshit, orphaned my ass.
Quakeman224 3 years ago
If this bill ever passes, I will take down my videos and my website. Thanks, tolstoy, for the heads up.
brandondwright 3 years ago
Man that's stupid. I'ma fight this as much as possible and if not I'll take my videos down. ALL THREE OF THEM. xD
But seriously, I will and I'll never share the stories I write or anything (not that I have shared them yet, I'm just saying...). But man that's a STUPID law! =S
TruePikachao 3 years ago
ho my god this cannot pass i hope it doesn't i mean my god they wold own the rights to benny my god god you cant let this bill pass my GOD!!!!!!!!
kidwithalightsaber 3 years ago
fuck the goverment
Khajiitfromhell 3 years ago 3
agreed
1PAcouchpotato 3 years ago
Fuck you america!Don't call me rasict or terrorist people,I'm american.
Alexred94 3 years ago
tolstoy, that law is like what is already happening... you "own" your videos but unless you payed 50 some dollars per video you did not copyright them... so it would be hard to claim they are yours if someone steals them.
swbit 3 years ago
it's way too unpopular to come to fruition. This goes against the first fucking amendment (sort of) well think about it you have the RIGHT to free speech. free speech equals art. ie through the mathematical law of transitive something or other.. first amendment = you have the right to your art.
VideoGamer945 3 years ago
maybe you think that markism aka communism/socialism is a good idea but no goverment that is or ever be communism is/will be corrupt becuase the leaders will never be straight to da people with all that power
jimby22 3 years ago
Communism and Democracy can share the same government you know.
TolstoyKafkaEvsky 3 years ago
maybe the principals of such a goverment like the one you invision lie in equality but reality lies in corruption
jimby22 3 years ago
thats a bullcrap law if it gets passed but i dont think that it will pass becuase it is so retarted
jimby22 3 years ago
ya but youtube is bought by google dang it y is ther alwase a down side in life
justin2736 3 years ago
this almost feels like it puts the viacom issue to shame.
Bert9327 3 years ago 2
Your totally right. People work hard to draw and make these things and some asshole can just come and pluck your video out and slap a TM mark on it. It kinda sounds like ebaumsworld.
NintendoBmaN 3 years ago
Holy Crap!!! This should be all over the internet!!!
deloreansrock 3 years ago
TKE, Do you have DA account?
justgunz3 3 years ago
no, because I was always afraid of shit like this!
TolstoyKafkaEvsky 3 years ago
ok.. i had NO idea this was going on. who are they to just get the entire internet information and claim it theres? i find that very suspicous and im going to look in to it. heres a thought. they are trying to stop people from downloading songs from the internet? they are DAMN hipocrites taking what is ours. thank you tolstoy for this video. if you tear your vids down, i hope all your other viewers can understand. theres no other option... peace
VampOPS 3 years ago
ok now since i saw the video you posted this as a response, it explains it. yet its still wrong. every person that has ever created anything unique and "theirs" is at risk. i have a cause for a first video now.. i guess they just want to over power us with money and power.. oh, i hope this comment isnt taken away by those people. i guess i need to register it!
VampOPS 3 years ago
why the fuck isnt this featured yet? WHY? CUS THEY DONT WANT US TO KNOW LOLOLOL but still i agree, i have nothing on the net but if i did i would do the same.
gweegwee3 3 years ago
Maybe you should read the agreement when you signed up a little more carefully. You will never get a real email back from someone in power, its a cover letter sent out by one of their go to people. You have to remember that the little guy alone does not matter, together we are as strong as they are. I really hope your not in favor of Barrack Hussein Obama, because he won't help you with anything like this, or unrelated to this.
fdsman 3 years ago
WE NEED TO FRONT PAGE THIS!
Tuber1193 3 years ago
From what I've read, this is one of many bills that is supposedly "going through". I doubt it ever will though.......
Yanirakarola 3 years ago
I HOPE it never does. Don't underestimate the filth that creeps around the senate and congress. We're talking about a group of people who voted in the PATRIOT ACT...3 FUCKING TIMES!! I'm just praying that Obama will reverse that if he gets in.
TolstoyKafkaEvsky 3 years ago
I just want to know what sorry sad little man thought of this stupid Bill so I can go and give him a nice hard punch in the face!!!
YOSUP315 3 years ago
whoa whoa whoa....metallica...?? i remember back on a vulgora videos said you were burnt out on metllica, oh well, they have had some rough spots, but there new album seems good, and they do care about the people....and goddamn i am way off subject lol.
Peter07Pal 3 years ago
The metallica reference is to the fact that they're one of the few musicians who openly oppose and give gay speeches about internet piracy, in spite of the fact that the same people who DOWNLOAD their music probably go to their concerts and buy their T-shirts and SIGN THEIR PAYCHECKS. Kid Rock is on that shit list as well.
TolstoyKafkaEvsky 3 years ago
very true, i hate when they do that, its different whens a new band u seal from that have not been signed, cause pretty much in the music world, the most of your money is made at your shows, and with the new bands, if they get pirated befor they can put out big, then they don't get PR, and signed,ect then can't make no money.
thats why metaliica was partial haters, because its like, how much money do you need, i buy your shirts, and sometimes your cds, but St anger!!!thats a slap in the face!
Peter07Pal 3 years ago
Thanks for making a video response on this subject. Nice to see people like you are out there taking action against these types of things. Good work. 5/5
therealweeklynews 3 years ago
NOT KOOL!!!
Trekfan1001 3 years ago
well it is nice to see an american who respects other peoples stuff ^.^ but if this gets pasted wouldent it null evry thing about the internet? and it is the worst thing thay could do
05838 3 years ago
Yeah, for me it is.
TolstoyKafkaEvsky 3 years ago
i cant see it happening, im tellin ya everyone will freak till its revoked, even though most of america is lazy. this would even affect famous musicians demo CDs, no more demo cds for us, they'd have to keep it on the downlow till they have it finished and they've paid. artists everyone. it aint goin down without a fight.
DragonflysSoul 3 years ago
yes we can
905rocks 3 years ago
THAT IS FUCKING BULL SHIT, What kind of stupid motherfucker could think this is a good idea??? This damn well be fake or not go through, Tolstoy if you make a petition i have alot of people who will sign it so keep us posted for the possibility of a petition.
watasee 3 years ago
i totally agree.
arron2800 3 years ago
hey man what time is it there
pinky315 3 years ago
Hammer Time...
TolstoyKafkaEvsky 3 years ago
Orphaned Works is fucking stupid..... I swear to god I'll become a anarchist, if they do pass it.
TheHandofOdd 3 years ago
If there is an online petition or something like it I want to get involved. If there is something like that please let me know.
xIceDragonFirex 3 years ago
ok im so maing a vid to suporrt !!
BLAST THIS!!!!
Chihawk27 3 years ago
Greedy bastards.
It sounds too stupid to believe, darn it.
Zecifer 3 years ago
Man this is just like what happened with the whole downloading music thing but it's happening to everything (at least thats what I get out of this). I wouldn't blame you for taking down whats yours, this is your art. I'm with ya all the way T-K-E.
DiabeticDood 3 years ago
this is for like dead people/ ill people that make a image/programme/anything that it cant be used any more(cant really ask them). i kinda like it but this is coming from some one that's a fan of (CC). but i dont think it should cost cash. that's just wrong. i do STRONGLY believe that if you make it its up to you to do anything you want to do with it.
also there is a lot of crazy things being proposed to congress that have been turned down.
thank you for making a video
artfungames 3 years ago
oops i was thinking that any one could use it, after i think about it if only big companies will than im not a fan.
artfungames 3 years ago
alright I will spread the video that you favorited
Ix07I 3 years ago
Wow, stop trying to get first you dumbasses!
Awesome vid
Randomeaninglessword 3 years ago
fuck you and yes i amadumbass thanks for the complinent jerk
uploader10101 3 years ago
hm....... dose this mean that animes could go on youtube again
ciboxcibox222 3 years ago
™ put this on the ends of your videos(™).....
mtmt888 3 years ago
Glad you make a point on this
Shadowmario64fan 3 years ago
';';;'';';';';
mtmt888 3 years ago
fuck yh your so right
MetalGearMad 3 years ago
Orphaned Works Act You suck who ever agrees with it is a asshole
SpiritGundam 3 years ago 3
god i doubt itll go through.
DiabloDave363 3 years ago
first
uploader10101 3 years ago
am i blocked
uploader10101 3 years ago
I agree.
mbplove 3 years ago
o yah first comment yes
uploader10101 3 years ago
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woo first comment, awesome video Toltoy!
linik0007 3 years ago
good vid
longstar56 3 years ago