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@JReel17 T mac, AI, stevie franchise...while kobe was busy swagga jackin jordan, these dudes was making their own mark!! That;s why i've never been a kobe guy, too fake.. not real!!
TMac is back!!!! He is almost as in good shape since his Toronto/Magic days. The only thing he has to do now is get his deadly offense back and hes set
@JReel17 yeah the likeliness of that happening at the ripe age of 32 though? TMac is my favorite player but i doubt he makes a resurgence to who he once was.
My friends keep saying "Mcgradys washed up and done" i told them to GTFOH. there both kobe and lebron fans. so i told them atleast my player doesn't travel or rape women. i told them "even tho mcgrady wont be in the hall of fame but will be remembered for doing one of the best comebacks in nba history" then they said "well kobes gonna be remembered for championships and doing a 81 point game" i said "kobe did 81 points against the fucking raptors and the man likes to rape women" ok i'm done
@xdivision100 i agree when you say something about lebron but talk about the past of kobe... c'mon i will say something... all NBA players are talentous they have sins and all... but they still the best! tmac, d-rose, lebron, kobe, d-howard...this players are for me already on hall of fame! dont hear your friends! they are retarded! LOL
@BB0ysGam3s i understand about the past of kobe but still they Dick Ride both kobe and lebron. even in school, all you would hear is "oh kobe did this yo i hope i can do that" or "lebron did this and i wanna do it to" i can't stand them but everywhere i go theres always those kinds of fans
@xdivision100 i agree! but for me if tmac stayed healthy for the rest of your career he would be better then EVEN michael jordan no doubt about that! he is incredible! he actually sign with the atlanta hawks! go to my channel and see the video!
@xdivision100 oh yea 5 titles a Lakers team record and 2nd alltime only behind wilt 81 pts on the raptors they are in the nba, 62 pts in 3 quarters vs dallas, 61pts at msg which is the record for msg, countless game winners, 9 straight games scoring 40 points or more tied for 2nd only behind wilt, 50 plus pts 4 straight games 2nd only behind wilt not to mention the 2nd most 60 pts games only behind wilt oh and he has the most 3 pointers made in a single game 12
It's also funny when you say tmac is too busy shooting when his FGA totals at 15182 whereas Lebron's totals at 12888 and tmac has been in the league for about two times as many years as Lebron
Once again Tracy and Lebron share identical stats, so neither one is doing more or less for their team. The fact that one team made it significantly further than the other in such a scenario, boils down to the supporting cast. Blinded by bias, are we not?
Tracy is better then Vince Carter. Vince = Explosive Dunks , TMac= Shots,Rebs.. Tmac dint have a team in houston. I live in houston and yao ming was just sorry. He never played 30 games straight without a injury. Houston [ my team ] is just ass and , * crys * we need somebody thats good cause they only pratice fa 30 mins
@2WhopperJrs as i recall mcrady did have a good teamate in juwan howard he avg 17 and 7. not the best teammate but its =to mo williams 17 and 6.and 21 wins is smh stat. i think that vince carter was a better player in tmac now thats a argument
But alas, one day if you're fortunate, you'll learn the differences of having good credibility and ethos with your claims, versus making baseless statements.
score in a one-on-one post up situation with a PG, how can you be 'the best'?
You stay on that "Oh Lebron has x amount of pts with x amount of rebs and assts" without even caring about the game itself. Which is contradictory because then you say "look at his on-ball defense, not the numbers". Regardless of what I say anyway, you're going to come back and retort more baseless claims without providing any substantial evidence.
LeBron can end his career with 0 rings for all I care, that's people's misconception. They determine a player's skill by the amount of rings he has which is stupid because that is a TEAM accomplishment, not a single man trophy. Rings or not, I believe LeBron has the potential to be the best, IF he refines his game and opens up more options for himself. As it stands now, if you're a SF (I don't even care about the size) and you cannot even
I was never arguing who was the better player (though I find T-Mac to be), I was clearly making it evident that people do not give Lebron's team any credit. Sure, he led them to the finals, but it was not all his doing. Once again, if two players of different teams are boasting identical stats, but one guy makes it to the finals (on more than one occasion) whereas the other never makes it out the first round, that obviously tells anyone with common sense, that the former guy has the better
@2WhopperJrs i dont care how bad ur team is if all you can do is lead a team to 21 wins then i dont mark you as a star player.lebron had already 35 wins in his rookie season already more than mcgrady.so if leading your team to the worst rec in the nba is better than leading your team to the finals than im crazy
to the finals? He makes his team better whereas T-Mac just wants to score? This is nothing short of a hilarious April Fools joke. In the playoffs, I'd gladly accept Tracy trading off those 2-2 rebs/assts for 10 extra points, which is what he did (several 40 pt games) and he didn't make it out the first round, why? Simple, his teams sucked, Lebron's was better and that's evident, it has nothing to do with the star players' productions.
quite a few Cleveland players with stats significantly better than those Magic counterparts. But anyways, the evidence is clear. LeBron and T-Mac are boasting similar statistics with Lebron's scoring being slightly less, but other stats being slightly better. T-Mac's assists and rebounds are at about 6-6 whereas Lebron's is about 8-8. You're telling me that those 2 point differentials are that significant? So significant that with two extra assists and rebounds, Lebron led his poor team
of that, from forcing Wade into turn overs, to him 'locking' down players (good ball handlers at that) the whole length of the court.
Another funny notion is that you're saying T-Mac was too busy scoring and it seems as if you're also saying that Cleveland's team was worse than the Magics. If you can name one decent person from the Magics in Tracy's era (with stats to support your claim - which you seem incapable of doing anyway) then I will be quite appalled, whereas I could name
What else is funny is that you keep making claims without providing any evidence, that's a big no no in any ENC class. Why not link me to a video displaying his "best-on-ball-defender-in-the-world-defense"? As it stands, we're currently on a page where his defense is looking "the best" (sarcasm). I look on YouTube for "LeBron Defense" and honestly have a hard time finding this "best-on-ball-defense" you speak of, whereas if I search Kobe and his defense, I can see multitudes
@2WhopperJrs alright so ur saying that i have no evidence to my points. but wheres yours? ur stating that lebron had a better team?look at the huge diffrence he made when he left that team.they lost 26 straight gams. when the season before they had 61.now lets look at the difference that mcgrady made. they wentfrom 21-61 with tmac to 36 wins without so not only did the magic improve but it shows that mcgrady couldnt lead his team. his fg was 41% thats horrible lebrons was 50 avg
@playcube006 It's funny because you state that I show no evidence which concludes to your poor comprehension skills. The fact that I even compared the two stats and drew a valid conclusion, went way over your head. The fact that everyone Lebron guarded last year in the playoff ended up with 'big' numbers obviously was not evidence contradicting your claim of Lebron being "the best on ball defender", nor the fact that we're on a video where he was sent sliding from a weak crossover.
lebron is better than t-mac (prime). T-Mac is flashy and a very good scorer, a better scorer than lebron. BUT lebron does SO much for his team. For some of the people saying T-Mac wins more games than lebron, you guys are just jumping on the "LeChoke" bandwagon. If you remember anything, it should be T-mac never made it out of the 1st round of any playoff series he participated in, at least Lebron has been to the finals...TWICE!
And yes, he scores well, that is given, but obviously something's wrong if you have an old Jason Kidd on you and can't score, both inside and out the post. Come on you got 80 year old players like Kidd and Terry severely limiting the scoring of "the best player in the league/world" at the most crucial time too?
@2WhopperJrs again its like arguing with skip bayless to u.have u seen lebrons on ball d? not stats but just being able to stay in front of his player and contesting every shot he is the best on ball defender in the league. and to ur assist point. look at lebron in cleve his best option for scoring was mo williams? then who? but he still avg 8 a game with no problem. tmac is suppose to make his teammates better. but he didntdo that becuase he was too busy taking 30 shots a game.
@playcube006 It's funny for several reasons. One, you keep making the notion that "arguing with me is like arguing with Skip Bayless" despite the fact that he's a columnist who writes in regards to the NBA, making money, and having college students like me write papers about his rhetoric, so he has a credible amount of ethos whereas you're one sitting on YouTube arguing with another user. So you mocking both his reasoning and mine is quite funny.
Ok, and you must have thought I was referring to the 2K personality 'unpredictable', so let me spell it out for you. Unpredictable as in defenders don't know what you're going to do because your game is extensive and 'versatile'. If defenders not knowing how to guard you, second guessing their every moves, doesn't help you "put the ball in the basket", then once again I do not need to respond, but I will however ponder why Kobe is such a threat.
@2WhopperJrs lets remember this is a argument to whos a better player in his prime.people bash on lebron for not getting a ring but 66 wins in a season doesnt show his domination and how he makes a huge difference? u know whats that called? its called efficiency lerbon is the most efficient player we have seen since the mj days. tmac wasnt that he was just a scorer he reminds me alot of todays monta ellis. so just another simple point that lebron now is still way better than tmacs prime
If his jump shot was a threat players would not be able to sag off. As it is now, they can sag off, play passing lanes, play better help-side defense on off ball teammates, etc. If he had a left hand, it allows him (and teammates) use of the WHOLE court and not just one side and it also stretches the defense. Look, I don't even have to get elaborative, if you're telling me that those 'versatile abilities' are only for scoring, then there's no need for me to respond to any other posts.
Once again the burden of providing evidence contradicting this is on you. Everybody that he guarded in the playoffs last year abused him, from 'low/mid tier' players like Terry and Deng, to stars like Pierce.
And no my definition of versatility did not only refer to scoring as it leads to more options, but I suppose I have to spell it out (without going too far into detail): if he had a post game defenders would find a need to double him in such situations, leaving a player undefended no?
average skill. Not to mention he can run the point because he has two other avid scorers so him being 'outside of the offense' doesn't hurt as much if someone like tmac (orlando let's say) running the point; seriously, who is going to be the scoring option??
Best on ball defense? Ron Artest, no? Rondo, no? Lebron, yes? What does he have to show for it? The defensive stats, or blocks, that he accumulates are back blocks, blocks which occurred on a player he wasn't even guarding.
Examine a player like Tmac, Kobe, Pippen, etc. they're unpredictable seeing as how they use both hands EFFICIENTLY whether driving or finishing, their jump shots are more than deadly threats, and they even throw in low/high post maneuvers, THAT is called versatility which is why these guys are top rated players and not due to scoring on mediocre patty-cake defense. Show me the evidence if I am lying, anyone.
@2WhopperJrs so are you saying that lebron isnt versatile? even when he is his teams pg bringing the ball down the court and getting assists when he is a 6'9 sf who avgs more than 7 rebs along with great defense in my opinion the best on ball d in the league. but he isnt versatile because he doesnt ''use his left hand''. cmon man its like arguing with skip. u dont even know what versatility is what u state is versatile is just different ways to score not all around play .
@playcube006 SF position and him grabbing rebounds is an astonishing accomplishment? All players crash the boards (maybe with the exception of the PG), so this includes the SF. Him playing PG? Yes, he definitely looks like a Rondo or Parker. You notice a difference with that between Miami and Cleveland right? I'd be surprised if Miami ran any plays, so it's nothing more than him attacking the basket, commanding the double team and dishing, which will work for anyone that attacks at an even
Lebron is good but his game is leagues behind and far from versatile. He boasts a mediocre (at best), but improving jump shot. Him using his left hand is rarer than a blue moon. This leaves him with nothing but an aggressive, right hand drive to basket, drop shoulder and never get called for a charge game. If I'm lying then prove me wrong, we can pit evidence as I have a lot which is why I make such claims.
@2WhopperJrs also being unpredictable is just a style of play. it doesnt mean how good u are every player has its own style. it doesnt make a difference on how u put the ball in the basket as long as you do put it in the basket and lebron does that very well.
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Id Take a Healthy T-Mac over healthy Kobe or Lebron anyday simply cuz T-mac cant be stopped his Offense was the Best Second to M.J when it comes to scoring
@jayhawks25 your crazy first of all lebron is a better all around ball player than tracy and lebron is realy durable he never gets hurt with mcrady you cant trust him constantly getting hurt
@vcownzraptors Yes, of course lebron is now. What I meant was that I would take a McGrady from 2002 over lebron now. It is a shame he kept getting hurt though.
@playcube006 My good sir, I do know a lot about basketball. Lebron is obviously the best (or 2nd best depending on who you ask) in the league right now. I dont know if you misunderstood what I meant, but what my point was that McGrady back in the orlando days before he got hurt was better than Lebron now. I would even go as far as comparing him to Jordan (McGrady that is).
@jayhawks25 wow really?? even when in orlando he barely lead his team to the playoffs when lebron lead his teamto the finals?? not counting this year in 2007. with both players having bad teammates. lebron was mvp, defensive team,2nd leading scorer, avg 8 assits with 7 rebs.mcgrady 2nd team and leading scorer and thats it? dam shame man
@playcube006 Another 'stat man', one who is biased at that but that's not the point. Let's play your game, comparing Tmac's and Lebron's playoff averages, they're practically equivalent with the former scoring slightly more (especially if you discard that year in Toronto where he wasn't the star). Now basketball is a TEAM game, if the former never made it out the first round whereas the latter did, both sharing identical stats, what does this tell one with common sense?
@texrocksify He never amounted to anything? I'm sorry, are you in the NBA? do you have millions? How many times have you been in an All star game? does anybody even know who you are?
And all the h8ers saying tmac didn't practice, thats bullshit...nobody can have the jumper he had without practice...the only thing he didn't do was try on defense
@trickmaster monkey, what you smokin ?man tmac and kobe have the same body man, man if he and yao didnt get injured, kobe wouldnt have 5 rings...yeah i said it....
even in his prime you cant say hes better than kobe, its like saying healthy penny hardaway was better than MJ in his 2 year prime. just because tmac had some few good years doesnt mean anything, kobe is the better all around player easy, his post up, jumper, defense, mentality,
Vexed334: yeh thats true but mcgrady had to carry his team a lot every year and hes sensitive, his body gets injured easily...his injuries are what set him back, not his practice habits
He was constantly criticized for not practicing on his weaknesses. Something about '10000 hours of practice means you've mastered that skill' McGrady didnt try to work on his skills. He just got by on his skills.
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FullEffectVisualTv 17 hours ago
Ahhh... the times.... when all stars were actually evenly divided east/west.
thlin 1 day ago
it was in the forth quarter...really lebron..smh
aaronlacombe11 1 week ago
That's what's up
OMGsYoungStacks 2 weeks ago
Tracy was always better than Lebron... but the fact of the matter is, Tracy is now injury probed, and Lebron is now in a team of 2 stars....
TheNewMetFan 2 weeks ago
if only he could do that now
Leedle435 2 weeks ago
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RCortez1986 2 weeks ago
So nice that have to watch it twice
darefresh12 2 weeks ago
WHY yall got to say lebron travelled yea he does sometimes but he is a great player
MrBBALLER01 2 weeks ago
yall suck and will never reach brons level
kthxbye fags
SiikProdz 3 weeks ago
At 0:17 do I spot a younger KG and Ray Allen
samauribrown 4 weeks ago
Halls candy
hardmagic11 1 month ago
I respect both Kobe and TMac, but when TMac was healthy and was Vintage TMac, he used to mop the floor with Kobe.
JReel17 1 month ago
@JReel17 T mac, AI, stevie franchise...while kobe was busy swagga jackin jordan, these dudes was making their own mark!! That;s why i've never been a kobe guy, too fake.. not real!!
shusizesix 2 weeks ago
TMac is back!!!! He is almost as in good shape since his Toronto/Magic days. The only thing he has to do now is get his deadly offense back and hes set
JReel17 1 month ago
@JReel17 yeah the likeliness of that happening at the ripe age of 32 though? TMac is my favorite player but i doubt he makes a resurgence to who he once was.
THEJustinSimmons 1 month ago
t mac is still a good player, not as god as the years before, but this guy can still play better than lebron
superrunscape2 1 month ago
@superrunscape2 cocain is a helluva drug
ognick22 1 month ago
@ognick22 lol
superrunscape2 4 weeks ago
Folks this is the reason why Lebron sucks. Thank you T-Mac.
gotflava1 1 month ago
:18 KG- Why df cant i do that?
Adamik1515 1 month ago
Lebrons defense sucks
CrossoverInYaFace 1 month ago
@CrossoverInYaFace You obviously know nothing about the NBA.
Galvahnize 1 month ago
lol and lebron said he would be able to guard michael jordan
DyNaMiiKex 1 month ago
@DyNaMiiKex and he could not even guard Jason Terry at the Finals...smh
gryd999 1 month ago
he owned lebron! i think tmac is a cyborg he is too much perfect!
BB0ysGam3s 1 month ago
wtf ever happened to mcgrady
BADball17 1 month ago
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FatBeatsHipHop 1 month ago
My friends keep saying "Mcgradys washed up and done" i told them to GTFOH. there both kobe and lebron fans. so i told them atleast my player doesn't travel or rape women. i told them "even tho mcgrady wont be in the hall of fame but will be remembered for doing one of the best comebacks in nba history" then they said "well kobes gonna be remembered for championships and doing a 81 point game" i said "kobe did 81 points against the fucking raptors and the man likes to rape women" ok i'm done
xdivision100 1 month ago
@xdivision100 and i say to you FUCK YOU
baboy84269 1 month ago
@xdivision100 i agree when you say something about lebron but talk about the past of kobe... c'mon i will say something... all NBA players are talentous they have sins and all... but they still the best! tmac, d-rose, lebron, kobe, d-howard...this players are for me already on hall of fame! dont hear your friends! they are retarded! LOL
BB0ysGam3s 1 month ago
@BB0ysGam3s i understand about the past of kobe but still they Dick Ride both kobe and lebron. even in school, all you would hear is "oh kobe did this yo i hope i can do that" or "lebron did this and i wanna do it to" i can't stand them but everywhere i go theres always those kinds of fans
xdivision100 1 month ago
@xdivision100 i agree! but for me if tmac stayed healthy for the rest of your career he would be better then EVEN michael jordan no doubt about that! he is incredible! he actually sign with the atlanta hawks! go to my channel and see the video!
BB0ysGam3s 1 month ago
@xdivision100 lol your a lame Kobe raped no one big ben on the other hand raped twice and no trial but thats america
amunrahII 1 month ago
@amunrahII you sure about the kobe rape thing buddy go to google and type "kobe bryant rape " and i know about the whole big ben situation.
xdivision100 1 month ago
@xdivision100 oh yea 5 titles a Lakers team record and 2nd alltime only behind wilt 81 pts on the raptors they are in the nba, 62 pts in 3 quarters vs dallas, 61pts at msg which is the record for msg, countless game winners, 9 straight games scoring 40 points or more tied for 2nd only behind wilt, 50 plus pts 4 straight games 2nd only behind wilt not to mention the 2nd most 60 pts games only behind wilt oh and he has the most 3 pointers made in a single game 12
amunrahII 1 month ago
i swear garnett said motherfucker at the end
TheFakeAdmin 1 month ago
That was really nice
vaibanez17 1 month ago
I feel soo bad he could not get through his career healthy. Was truly a flat out scorer and nobody could defend him off the dribble.
sweeney2321 1 month ago
Can't fuck with T-mac!!
captainslappy100 2 months ago
@captainslappy100 ,,you got that right bro!!
verasglass 1 month ago
Is it just me, or does T-Mac always look stoned?
Primathys 2 months ago 4
At the end of the video, Garnett was like ''Thats a bad muthafucka''.
supremekickz 2 months ago 4
the guy who passed to t-mac travelled!
BrunoCaseiro14 2 months ago
i Miss You T-mac.
cant wait to help get you inducted into the hall.
LightNinja774 2 months ago 60
@LightNinja774
what hall is that?
Dkouts57 1 month ago
@LightNinja774 I like T-Mac as much as anyone...but I'm not sure he's going.
TheAnomaly24 1 month ago
@LightNinja774 He had his moments, but he had too many injuries.
titojefe330 3 weeks ago
@LightNinja774 What's there to miss? He's still playing. He's just an old role player now.
SikeMikeT31 1 week ago
lol garnett always sweating hard as a bitch
murfywash1994 2 months ago
Lebron.....Shitted on
OmarLeeMario 2 months ago
Lebron is the Justin Bieber of the nba
krishkroshkrash 2 months ago
Travel by Duncan at 0:05
mavsrock 2 months ago
if i see another lebron traveling joke .. im going to crap myself
Ryan4eva09 2 months ago
TMac coulda really done LeBron up if he had gone past him after crossing him up. Oh well, might as well just spray a 3 in his eye
Loudmouf84 2 months ago
lebron got crossed while travelling
alex268078243 2 months ago 80
@alex268078243 oh your so clever, did your boyfriend help you come up with that faggot?
meanugene 2 weeks ago
@meanugene ah, ur just mad that i copied that comment from other people right?
alex268078243 2 weeks ago
only t-mac get get 3million views on a cross over vidoe
mibbzx1493 2 months ago
Fuck Lebron. TMAC <3
MrAuburnHD 2 months ago
It's also funny when you say tmac is too busy shooting when his FGA totals at 15182 whereas Lebron's totals at 12888 and tmac has been in the league for about two times as many years as Lebron
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
@2WhopperJrs Do you know anything about basketball
chumsyalibumsy11 2 months ago
Once again Tracy and Lebron share identical stats, so neither one is doing more or less for their team. The fact that one team made it significantly further than the other in such a scenario, boils down to the supporting cast. Blinded by bias, are we not?
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
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@2WhopperJrs Well, McGradys teams were always a 1st round exit. He had a pretty good team too.
wowzers57 3 months ago
Tracy is better then Vince Carter. Vince = Explosive Dunks , TMac= Shots,Rebs.. Tmac dint have a team in houston. I live in houston and yao ming was just sorry. He never played 30 games straight without a injury. Houston [ my team ] is just ass and , * crys * we need somebody thats good cause they only pratice fa 30 mins
JordanFlyinJets 3 months ago
@JordanFlyinJets the team with artest, yao, and tmac was my pick to win it. both tmac and yao got hurt but they still took the lakers to 7 games.
SvR2011Storylines 1 week ago
TRACY BE4 INJURY= BEST if he stayed healthy, bestt of all timeee
alcoholicsemenspill9 3 months ago
My bad, Tracy is actually averaging 7-6 rebs/assts whereas LeBron is averaging 8-7. So it's a 1 point differential not 2, even better
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
@2WhopperJrs as i recall mcrady did have a good teamate in juwan howard he avg 17 and 7. not the best teammate but its =to mo williams 17 and 6.and 21 wins is smh stat. i think that vince carter was a better player in tmac now thats a argument
playcube006 3 months ago
But alas, one day if you're fortunate, you'll learn the differences of having good credibility and ethos with your claims, versus making baseless statements.
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
score in a one-on-one post up situation with a PG, how can you be 'the best'?
You stay on that "Oh Lebron has x amount of pts with x amount of rebs and assts" without even caring about the game itself. Which is contradictory because then you say "look at his on-ball defense, not the numbers". Regardless of what I say anyway, you're going to come back and retort more baseless claims without providing any substantial evidence.
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
team seeing as how basketball is a TEAM sport.
LeBron can end his career with 0 rings for all I care, that's people's misconception. They determine a player's skill by the amount of rings he has which is stupid because that is a TEAM accomplishment, not a single man trophy. Rings or not, I believe LeBron has the potential to be the best, IF he refines his game and opens up more options for himself. As it stands now, if you're a SF (I don't even care about the size) and you cannot even
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
I was never arguing who was the better player (though I find T-Mac to be), I was clearly making it evident that people do not give Lebron's team any credit. Sure, he led them to the finals, but it was not all his doing. Once again, if two players of different teams are boasting identical stats, but one guy makes it to the finals (on more than one occasion) whereas the other never makes it out the first round, that obviously tells anyone with common sense, that the former guy has the better
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
@2WhopperJrs i dont care how bad ur team is if all you can do is lead a team to 21 wins then i dont mark you as a star player.lebron had already 35 wins in his rookie season already more than mcgrady.so if leading your team to the worst rec in the nba is better than leading your team to the finals than im crazy
playcube006 3 months ago
@playcube006 Lebron didn't lead Shit
chumsyalibumsy11 2 months ago
to the finals? He makes his team better whereas T-Mac just wants to score? This is nothing short of a hilarious April Fools joke. In the playoffs, I'd gladly accept Tracy trading off those 2-2 rebs/assts for 10 extra points, which is what he did (several 40 pt games) and he didn't make it out the first round, why? Simple, his teams sucked, Lebron's was better and that's evident, it has nothing to do with the star players' productions.
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
quite a few Cleveland players with stats significantly better than those Magic counterparts. But anyways, the evidence is clear. LeBron and T-Mac are boasting similar statistics with Lebron's scoring being slightly less, but other stats being slightly better. T-Mac's assists and rebounds are at about 6-6 whereas Lebron's is about 8-8. You're telling me that those 2 point differentials are that significant? So significant that with two extra assists and rebounds, Lebron led his poor team
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
of that, from forcing Wade into turn overs, to him 'locking' down players (good ball handlers at that) the whole length of the court.
Another funny notion is that you're saying T-Mac was too busy scoring and it seems as if you're also saying that Cleveland's team was worse than the Magics. If you can name one decent person from the Magics in Tracy's era (with stats to support your claim - which you seem incapable of doing anyway) then I will be quite appalled, whereas I could name
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
What else is funny is that you keep making claims without providing any evidence, that's a big no no in any ENC class. Why not link me to a video displaying his "best-on-ball-defender-in-the-world-defense"? As it stands, we're currently on a page where his defense is looking "the best" (sarcasm). I look on YouTube for "LeBron Defense" and honestly have a hard time finding this "best-on-ball-defense" you speak of, whereas if I search Kobe and his defense, I can see multitudes
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
@2WhopperJrs alright so ur saying that i have no evidence to my points. but wheres yours? ur stating that lebron had a better team?look at the huge diffrence he made when he left that team.they lost 26 straight gams. when the season before they had 61.now lets look at the difference that mcgrady made. they wentfrom 21-61 with tmac to 36 wins without so not only did the magic improve but it shows that mcgrady couldnt lead his team. his fg was 41% thats horrible lebrons was 50 avg
playcube006 3 months ago
@playcube006 It's funny because you state that I show no evidence which concludes to your poor comprehension skills. The fact that I even compared the two stats and drew a valid conclusion, went way over your head. The fact that everyone Lebron guarded last year in the playoff ended up with 'big' numbers obviously was not evidence contradicting your claim of Lebron being "the best on ball defender", nor the fact that we're on a video where he was sent sliding from a weak crossover.
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
lebron is better than t-mac (prime). T-Mac is flashy and a very good scorer, a better scorer than lebron. BUT lebron does SO much for his team. For some of the people saying T-Mac wins more games than lebron, you guys are just jumping on the "LeChoke" bandwagon. If you remember anything, it should be T-mac never made it out of the 1st round of any playoff series he participated in, at least Lebron has been to the finals...TWICE!
Bengetowutang 3 months ago
And yes, he scores well, that is given, but obviously something's wrong if you have an old Jason Kidd on you and can't score, both inside and out the post. Come on you got 80 year old players like Kidd and Terry severely limiting the scoring of "the best player in the league/world" at the most crucial time too?
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
@2WhopperJrs again its like arguing with skip bayless to u.have u seen lebrons on ball d? not stats but just being able to stay in front of his player and contesting every shot he is the best on ball defender in the league. and to ur assist point. look at lebron in cleve his best option for scoring was mo williams? then who? but he still avg 8 a game with no problem. tmac is suppose to make his teammates better. but he didntdo that becuase he was too busy taking 30 shots a game.
playcube006 3 months ago
@playcube006 It's funny for several reasons. One, you keep making the notion that "arguing with me is like arguing with Skip Bayless" despite the fact that he's a columnist who writes in regards to the NBA, making money, and having college students like me write papers about his rhetoric, so he has a credible amount of ethos whereas you're one sitting on YouTube arguing with another user. So you mocking both his reasoning and mine is quite funny.
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
Ok, and you must have thought I was referring to the 2K personality 'unpredictable', so let me spell it out for you. Unpredictable as in defenders don't know what you're going to do because your game is extensive and 'versatile'. If defenders not knowing how to guard you, second guessing their every moves, doesn't help you "put the ball in the basket", then once again I do not need to respond, but I will however ponder why Kobe is such a threat.
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
@2WhopperJrs lets remember this is a argument to whos a better player in his prime.people bash on lebron for not getting a ring but 66 wins in a season doesnt show his domination and how he makes a huge difference? u know whats that called? its called efficiency lerbon is the most efficient player we have seen since the mj days. tmac wasnt that he was just a scorer he reminds me alot of todays monta ellis. so just another simple point that lebron now is still way better than tmacs prime
playcube006 3 months ago
If his jump shot was a threat players would not be able to sag off. As it is now, they can sag off, play passing lanes, play better help-side defense on off ball teammates, etc. If he had a left hand, it allows him (and teammates) use of the WHOLE court and not just one side and it also stretches the defense. Look, I don't even have to get elaborative, if you're telling me that those 'versatile abilities' are only for scoring, then there's no need for me to respond to any other posts.
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
Once again the burden of providing evidence contradicting this is on you. Everybody that he guarded in the playoffs last year abused him, from 'low/mid tier' players like Terry and Deng, to stars like Pierce.
And no my definition of versatility did not only refer to scoring as it leads to more options, but I suppose I have to spell it out (without going too far into detail): if he had a post game defenders would find a need to double him in such situations, leaving a player undefended no?
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
average skill. Not to mention he can run the point because he has two other avid scorers so him being 'outside of the offense' doesn't hurt as much if someone like tmac (orlando let's say) running the point; seriously, who is going to be the scoring option??
Best on ball defense? Ron Artest, no? Rondo, no? Lebron, yes? What does he have to show for it? The defensive stats, or blocks, that he accumulates are back blocks, blocks which occurred on a player he wasn't even guarding.
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
Examine a player like Tmac, Kobe, Pippen, etc. they're unpredictable seeing as how they use both hands EFFICIENTLY whether driving or finishing, their jump shots are more than deadly threats, and they even throw in low/high post maneuvers, THAT is called versatility which is why these guys are top rated players and not due to scoring on mediocre patty-cake defense. Show me the evidence if I am lying, anyone.
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
@2WhopperJrs so are you saying that lebron isnt versatile? even when he is his teams pg bringing the ball down the court and getting assists when he is a 6'9 sf who avgs more than 7 rebs along with great defense in my opinion the best on ball d in the league. but he isnt versatile because he doesnt ''use his left hand''. cmon man its like arguing with skip. u dont even know what versatility is what u state is versatile is just different ways to score not all around play .
playcube006 3 months ago
@playcube006 SF position and him grabbing rebounds is an astonishing accomplishment? All players crash the boards (maybe with the exception of the PG), so this includes the SF. Him playing PG? Yes, he definitely looks like a Rondo or Parker. You notice a difference with that between Miami and Cleveland right? I'd be surprised if Miami ran any plays, so it's nothing more than him attacking the basket, commanding the double team and dishing, which will work for anyone that attacks at an even
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
Lebron is good but his game is leagues behind and far from versatile. He boasts a mediocre (at best), but improving jump shot. Him using his left hand is rarer than a blue moon. This leaves him with nothing but an aggressive, right hand drive to basket, drop shoulder and never get called for a charge game. If I'm lying then prove me wrong, we can pit evidence as I have a lot which is why I make such claims.
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
@2WhopperJrs also being unpredictable is just a style of play. it doesnt mean how good u are every player has its own style. it doesnt make a difference on how u put the ball in the basket as long as you do put it in the basket and lebron does that very well.
playcube006 3 months ago
wierd to see allen and garnett both in the west
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togonumber 3 months ago
@togonumber lmfao!
SuperChriz56 3 months ago
Gam3Walkthrough I will take 06-08 kobe over tmac's prime
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malspeich 3 months ago
When Tmac was at the peak of his powers.. he is better than kobe and james.. just saying.
Gam3Walkthrough 3 months ago
t-mac 01-04 was probably the illest in tha game during that time handles,defense and he had a waayyyy betta shot than lebron has even rite now
kingcooper0104 3 months ago
hahaha 0:18 ray allen has hair
MrHeyy101 3 months ago
Mcgrady: 1
Lebron: 0
xdivision100 3 months ago
Transcript of what KG said in the end: No rings for this dude
LaMagra70 3 months ago
yall sleep as fuck lebron better mcgrady anyday
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kilimelis 3 months ago
just wanted to point out (troll) Duncan traveled at the beginning of the video lol
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KruSunPower 3 months ago
i miss Tmac...alwayz playing high
ren4tox 3 months ago
Lebron traveled
SmokingOnThat 3 months ago
DID HE SAY NICE CROSS TRIXY MCGRADY
912michaeljackson 3 months ago
0:11 Lebron's right ankle looks like it's in a painful position.
Dreamewalker 3 months ago
Ray Allen with hair!
homicabr 3 months ago
Miller was puny, never injured, whatever
1PedroAmor 3 months ago
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Id Take a Healthy T-Mac over healthy Kobe or Lebron anyday simply cuz T-mac cant be stopped his Offense was the Best Second to M.J when it comes to scoring
JCam4mvp 3 months ago
@anjoskold, well said my dude. so good. sooo good
kckid86 3 months ago
seeing kg and ray ray in west LOL
DemonXY2J 3 months ago
0:04-0:06 That's a travel
ljietuvis 3 months ago
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sicklight 3 months ago
Can anybody tell me if mcgrady can be a hall of fame? and richard hamilton?
rapbasketball2 3 months ago
LEBRON TRAVELED
mitricelmihai 4 months ago
@mitricelmihai lebron traveled to your mom's ass
loubean16 3 months ago
@jayhawks25 thats a really dumb things to say
Justcallmedobo 4 months ago
Once upon a time McGrady was better than jordan.
jayhawks25 4 months ago
@jayhawks25 T-Mac will forever be my nigga but you're going a bit too far.
kabwaya 4 months ago
@kabwaya Yeah, perhaps. But I would def take a McGrady in his prime over Lebron.
jayhawks25 4 months ago 18
@jayhawks25 I would take T-mac over Lebron also
MrWitchellJean 3 months ago
@jayhawks25 your crazy first of all lebron is a better all around ball player than tracy and lebron is realy durable he never gets hurt with mcrady you cant trust him constantly getting hurt
vcownzraptors 3 months ago
@vcownzraptors Yes, of course lebron is now. What I meant was that I would take a McGrady from 2002 over lebron now. It is a shame he kept getting hurt though.
jayhawks25 3 months ago
McGrady over LeBron...you guys are incredible..lol
MayRettaKing 3 months ago
@jayhawks25
THE ORLANDO YEARS WERE SICK.............
togonumber 3 months ago
@jayhawks25 naaaaa chill lebron is the best in the nba and we all know it if u think other wise u dotn know shit
playcube006 3 months ago
@playcube006 My good sir, I do know a lot about basketball. Lebron is obviously the best (or 2nd best depending on who you ask) in the league right now. I dont know if you misunderstood what I meant, but what my point was that McGrady back in the orlando days before he got hurt was better than Lebron now. I would even go as far as comparing him to Jordan (McGrady that is).
jayhawks25 3 months ago
@jayhawks25 wow really?? even when in orlando he barely lead his team to the playoffs when lebron lead his teamto the finals?? not counting this year in 2007. with both players having bad teammates. lebron was mvp, defensive team,2nd leading scorer, avg 8 assits with 7 rebs.mcgrady 2nd team and leading scorer and thats it? dam shame man
playcube006 3 months ago
@playcube006 Another 'stat man', one who is biased at that but that's not the point. Let's play your game, comparing Tmac's and Lebron's playoff averages, they're practically equivalent with the former scoring slightly more (especially if you discard that year in Toronto where he wasn't the star). Now basketball is a TEAM game, if the former never made it out the first round whereas the latter did, both sharing identical stats, what does this tell one with common sense?
2WhopperJrs 3 months ago
@jayhawks25 mee tooooooooo
ta4life27 3 months ago
@jayhawks25 DAM STRAIGHT Mcgrady > jordan
fenomnx 4 months ago
garnett alwayz calling niggaz muhfuckaz lol
jumpoffjno 4 months ago
as u look at Kevin garnet he say motherfucker
SiLeNcE138 4 months ago
@texrocksify He never amounted to anything? I'm sorry, are you in the NBA? do you have millions? How many times have you been in an All star game? does anybody even know who you are?
blazedout111 4 months ago
What do ya know.. KG and Ray sitting next to eachother on the same squad ahaha.
NBA1529 4 months ago
Mcgrady just gave LeBron that work like a professor
macmohoyo 4 months ago
And all the h8ers saying tmac didn't practice, thats bullshit...nobody can have the jumper he had without practice...the only thing he didn't do was try on defense
ishu345 4 months ago 4
Kg: yeah mothafuc**
@trickmaster monkey, what you smokin ?man tmac and kobe have the same body man, man if he and yao didnt get injured, kobe wouldnt have 5 rings...yeah i said it....
ishu345 4 months ago
if T-Mac had Bryan'ts physique, shit would've been bananas !!!!!
trickmastermonkey 4 months ago
@trickmastermonkey
even in his prime you cant say hes better than kobe, its like saying healthy penny hardaway was better than MJ in his 2 year prime. just because tmac had some few good years doesnt mean anything, kobe is the better all around player easy, his post up, jumper, defense, mentality,
The8310353 4 months ago
Damn yo.. cmon lebron... stop fukn embarrasing yourself all the time i always see u get cross'd by someone..
xxlegendify 4 months ago
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C5Boozer 4 months ago
If you look closely lebron dropped his 4th quarter
JReel17 4 months ago
Vexed334: yeh thats true but mcgrady had to carry his team a lot every year and hes sensitive, his body gets injured easily...his injuries are what set him back, not his practice habits
JReel17 4 months ago
in all honestly. tmac was great could of been better but he never used to practice or take training seriously.
vexed334 4 months ago
@vexed334 *coughs* (AI) *coughs* (Doesn't practice)
Tacoma1993 4 months ago
In 06 all star game lebron got schooled by tmac.. in 11 all star game kobe schooled lbj again..
TmacdaOne 4 months ago
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ThaDon419 4 months ago
@homerdough when did anyone ever go on record saying t-mac had a shitty work ethic
orangekeivon 4 months ago
@orangekeivon
He was constantly criticized for not practicing on his weaknesses. Something about '10000 hours of practice means you've mastered that skill' McGrady didnt try to work on his skills. He just got by on his skills.
homerdough 4 months ago
@homerdough I think you're talking about Iverson.
superkid24 4 months ago
Lmao, These if you look closely jokes are getting out of hand
Gikanks556 4 months ago
I believe LeBron, if you take a close look, traveled.
nova2006champs 4 months ago
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I believe that if you take a close look, you have no dick. And tiny balls.
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homerdough 4 months ago
t mac should join the suns
phoenixsuns2014 5 months ago
ALL DAY O.O
Badboy12XDD 5 months ago
thumbs up for the traveling at 0:04
JHallballer0 5 months ago
lol kevin garnett waz like oh shit
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TurnMySwagOn911 5 months ago
that happened to Lebron because it was the 4th quarter
shinese20 5 months ago
Nike did'nt confiscate this tape ? ? ?
MicheIleObama 5 months ago 3
@MicheIleObama so you go on videos and leave the same comment..desperate for a thumbs up? i'll give you one
iPlayVideoGames365 5 months ago
@MrSexinessboi I can swear I see a hater
darkinferno1219 5 months ago
KG even swears at all star games
noWatimsayin1 5 months ago
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sachininusa110 5 months ago
Lol Kevin Garrnet Was Like WTF! -_-
mailman551 5 months ago
man i heard them ankles crack lol
Daking0100 5 months ago
keep pressing 6 if you want to se lebron dance for t-mac
loveforsoul 5 months ago 4
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loveforsoul 5 months ago
T-Mac is still MVPless
stevel920 5 months ago