Chris Huhne rumbled on electoral change history (02May11)

[showusyergizzle]

I think we can all see who the prats are, and they are people like Chris Huhne and you, ToaJoe... people whose political partisanship is so overwhelming that historical facts are put aside and you feel allowed to make silly juvenile sweeping statements against your political opponents.

[ToaJoe]

Yeah, these minor changes that good Tories like Benjamin Dizzy brought about were absoloutely pathetic compared to the Liberal changes. Now let's compare the modern Tory record- voted against gay rights, womens rights, black rights etc

[TheChrisg00]

@ToaJoe that's right. tories were in power for 18 long years, at the end of that period no black could vote, no gay could vote and no woman could vote. Or perhaps your talking tosh....

[ToaJoe]

@TheChrisg00 Don't be a stupid pratt, I was refering to the fact the Tories have voted against gay rights, womens rights even as recently as 5 years ago. And in the 60s, they opposed black rights too.

[TheChrisg00]

@ToaJoe I must have missed that. Glad your not saying their against blacks now. What specific rights are you referring to, that the tories as a party opposed, within the last 5 years? Please be specific.

[ToaJoe]

@TheChrisg00 I'm not prepared to dig out the archives for a youtube discussion. Just look at the records. If you want a simplified one, go to theyworkforyou. com

[TheChrisg00]

@ToaJoe I thought not. So perhaps in future you'll have a think before posting such bilge.

[ToaJoe]

@TheChrisg00 Well, the way I see it, argumentative twats like you will always shout 'wheres your evidence' no matter what voting records I produce. You'll always question where I got it from. So tell me, why should I bother backing up my case on a site like Youtube? It's not the most important thing I could be doing.

[TheChrisg00]

@ToaJoe so why comment at all? You haven't named one single 'right' affecting one single group. Go and do something more useful & leave grown up politics to grown ups. Go on. Go and paint your nails.

[ToaJoe]

@TheChrisg00 Are you denying that David Cameron and his entire front bench voted against gay rights legislation in 2003?

[TheChrisg00]

@ToaJoe I think 2003 was the year the then PM announced he didn't support gay marriage, I believe Blair was Labour. Most moral issues of course are free vote matters. Gays have the same rights as everyone else, not more, not less. But what specific human right are you referring to?

[ToaJoe]

@TheChrisg00 Well, see how our home secretary once voted, if you will:

theyworkforyou. com /mp/theresa_may/maidenhead

[TheChrisg00]

@ToaJoe While your checking voting records, perhaps you'd care to look at David Blunkett's voting record on for example the age of consent for homosexuals. As I've already explained, ethical or moral issues are free votes and are not party matters. I suggest in future before making sweeping statements, you just make an effort to understand what your talking about.

[ToaJoe]

@TheChrisg00 Whatever you say, it is against the nature of the Conservatives to be Liberal on social reform such as homosexuality and womens rights. The clue is in the name. The Tories are the party of disgusting Christian family values. Admittedly, they are economically competent, but every time they are in office they try to take us back to the 1800's Victorian Christian household.

[TheChrisg00]

@ToaJoe I think on that note our discussion should end.

[PriestOfFilm]

certainly sunk his circus float lol

[Astbruchgefahr]

That was pretty decisive.

[Fleshious]

It's hardly surprising that the Lib Dems don't know British history.

[coltrane1966]

checkmate!