My idea: Ma played a service timo boll dropshotted it ma didnt have the chance to backhand topsin the ball, so he decided to play a sidebaskin shot effective beacuse mostly it will come back ah his backand and timo went a Topsin, which hitted the net little, U HAVE WRONG MIDODINA1
The ball is wobbling even after ma lins serve and they both absorb and increase the sidespin throughout the whole ball making the last shot almost impossible to return for Ma lin
I think Boll just mis-hit the ball a bit, resulting in a loop with very little pace that landed incredibly short on the table. Ma Long was standing too far back and by the time the ball got to him, it was too low for him to do anything but try to guide it back onto the table, and the spin took it out. I doubt it was intentional on Boll's part, because he seemed to apologize after the point.
I think it's because Boll's topspin shot landed really close to the net, and it bounced out really close to the border, malong was not in a position to counterloop or hit the ball. He was catching the ball too late. I think it's purely luck for Boll.
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had nothing to do with misreading the spin. The ball landed so short, and when you let a super spinny slow loop go anywhere farther than off the bounce then its almost impossible to return. That's why you see ma long chop the ball sometimes... he's so used to backing up for the drive he's used to from other chinese, he gets the short loop and he ends up chopping it back. I've seen him chop two balls in a row. It's all you can do.
@evisuallover actually difference is not so much the spin. it's the lack of forward drive. boll hit basically pure heavy topspin so it didn't travel far before the kick
anyone over 1800 can do it. generally it's a bad idea b/c you can counter punch through it.
it's jus ma long wasn't ready for it and boll is really good at controlling spin in the first place.
@evisuallover yep. i saw ma lin do similar in a doubles game at wttc 2011. he hit it up, and the ball just suddenly dipped down in midair. = very heavy topspin with little forward momentum
Ma played a sidespin service, timo boll dropshotted it
ma didnt have the chance to backhand topspin the ball so he decided to play a sidebackspin shot (effective because mostly,it will come back at his backhand due to the spin generated , so that he could turn around and forehand topspin it also thats why he stayed at left ). Timo looped the ball with massive topspin absorbing amount of sidespin with the topspin,thats why ma's ball went up and right .. due to effect of sidetop spin.
No, Boll put this sidespin on himself because if the sidespin on the ball *was* the spin generated by Ma, then the contact of the ball and Boll's bat would have reversed the spin thereby causing Ma's shot to shoot to the left, not the right.
@midodina1 I think Ma Longs Sidespin is so minimal, that that hasn´t any effect. But Timo Boll kinks his wrist so much that he can play his topspins always with a lot of sidespin.
I thought a ball with backspin goes low. And if there is top spin on the ball, when the top spin kicks the ball will bounce higher. How come the ball went low after the pitch..?
@CheckmateOO7 - A backspin ball will seem to float through the air and can not be hit and given a very high velocity except for on certain occasions. A topspin ball with seem to dive and can be hit giving it the highest velocity, all traditional smashes have topspin. When the ball is hit with a topspin loop, like here, it will accelerate down table when hitting the table. The reason a ball appears to bounce higher (tt and tennis) when hit with topspin, is because the ball travels much faster
Thanks for the reply... Thumps up!! I guess you are right. I have understood what you have written like this:- A topspin ball with high velocity will bounce higher. But, when there is no high velocity on the ball, the ball will dive down (like in this video), right..? Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks for the reply... Thumps up!! I guess you are right. I have understood what you have written like this:- A topspin ball with high velocity will bounce higher. But, when there is no high velocity on the ball, the ball will dive down (like in this video), right..? Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks for the reply... Thumps up!! I guess you are right. I have understood what you have written like this:- A topspin ball with high velocity will bounce higher. But, when there is no high velocity on the ball, the ball will dive down (like in this video), right..? Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks for the reply... Thumps up!! I guess you are right. I have understood what you have written like this:- A topspin ball? with high velocity will bounce higher. But, when there is no high velocity on the ball, the ball will dive down (like in this video), right..? Correct me if I am wrong.
@CheckmateOO7 - Yes, that is correct. Due to how light a tt ball is and how much it can be spun, it can truly act in many different ways both in the air, in the bounce and when hit again.
Thanks for the reply... !! I guess you are right. I have understood what you have written like this:- A topspin ball with high velocity will bounce higher. But, when there is no high velocity on the ball, the ball will dive down (like in this video), right..? Correct me if I am wrong.
It's not special topspin. Timo waited for the ball to drop table height or even lower. Topspins it with a high arc loop giving the ball more top than what Ma Long wanted to anticipate. Ma Long didn't know what to do with the ball so he kinda played a passive shot that ricochets off his rubber and he missed the table because of Timo's extremely topspin loop. It's not Special.
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@J0kerofHearts because timo's topspin was absolutely loaded. plus he got it so short so blocking it wouldnt have worked either he had to let it drop and let the spin loop the ball back up in the air literally hope it goes on the table, it was an immense shot from timo
@J0kerofHearts im saying it makes it much harder as blocking is easier if you take it off the bounce when the ball is lower. if it is alot shorter it means you have to reach for it and if you don't see it going short until its too late then you're in trouble.
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2) the best way to return a very spinny short top, it's smash TO the net, your head will think that the ball will hit the net, but the spinny top will make the ball hit around the back line.
3) "so the receiver didnt know which way the spin would apply " OMG, ma long knows that timo boll hasn't pips, and he saw the timo arm movement, it was a "down-to-up" top, so the ball will come VERY spinny.
the first two points from you are correct but it was not just a mistake timo boll had enough time to think so he make a a top spin with side spin if ma long had smashed the ball would this spin not matter but so
@sylviahan423 well, but you can probably see the sign on the ball which moves in a specific direction... well maybe the ball had too much spin to see that but i think wang hao just undervalued the spin of timo's topspin^^
hey guys, the only thing is that timo didn't hit the ball perfectly. He hit it somewhere near the odge of his blade, and so the ball landed near the net. Neither of the expected that. So the chinese guy was expecting the ball on the back of the table, and he improved something on the moment, trying to throw the ball from under the table, so that timo couldn't see the spin.
how is it a backspin, can u see a backspin from timo? topspin just a higher loop. if it was a backspin it couldn't have bounced of that high from ma lins bat :S:S:S:S
@123ricewine - it's not a side spin + back spin. timo did a normal topspin on it. but ma lin didn'[t hit it straight, look carefully he bends his bat.
actually he didn't he did put side spin and back spin on it because he was interviewed later on after that match and confirmed that it was side and back spin which is hard to counter spin
actually u both r wrong i know this is not "special topspin" but it is a different type of spin its a mix between side sapin and back spin making it hard to return with counter spin
Totally wrong. Look at how the ball kicks forward on the table and look how the return behaves. If it was backspin it would've floated more and not kicked forward, in fact it might've jumped back across the net.
this is not special topsin. It is just a slower and spinnier way of putting topspin on the ball. The only reason why some people think it is special is because very few professionals use this topspin. The way to do this topsin is rather than hitting the ball flat and at a sharp angle, you raise your bat higher up and with the flat face of the bat. When you are bringing the bat up you do it quickly to generate more spin.
actually you don't generate way more spin with this "special topspin", the ball is just jumping off the table in another angle, and as a result it's jumping off the racket higher.
same reason why balls who touched the net jump that far away ^^
Its not special at all. People just rarely use it, because speed is better.
If you have an "open" bat while doing a lot of topspin, you get this kind of balls. Just like the topspin you need vs pimps. Because of the nature of Timo's fh, there is a bit of sidespin involved and Ma just did a bad job returning this ball.
A block with a closed bat, short after the bounce, or when you hold your bat above the ball, when it bounces up, will return it and the spin will be translated into speed
it didnt hit the net , and it was a bit of sidespin topspin as when ma long touched the ball it went to the right side , therefore , there was sidespin ..
dont u think that timo would apologize if the ball hit the net? his clenched fist doesnt look like that... and he was there and didnt see on screen in lousy quality.
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tschoohh, everyone that plays table tennis since young , like me, ( since i was 6 ) can do an topspin like that, and it isn't hard 2 handle topspins like that, i think that Ma Long didn't handle that ball coz it touched in the net. timo boll backhands are spectacular
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the ball touched the net which is not special topsin at all. For those who don't know how to play table tennis, when the ball hits the net, it will sometimes completely change direction requiring the player to save the ball as ma long tried to do. 1/5
You can clearly see by the trajectory of the ball that it doenst clip the net, Timo just threw it up slower with more spin as opposed to caking through it at 100mph like they normally do.
He was outta position to smack it, cuz the ball bounced very close to the net and ma long was probably expecting it to come a little faster than that. Slow-moving loops that dip below the table are one of the most difficult shots to counter even for pro's, ma long probably knew he was screwed right when boll hit that ball. Now, time for me to go eat some bagles!!!! bagel ----> O
Ma Long's follow through on his push is to the left. I assume the side spin from Timo's loop had a small amount of sidespin because of Long. Although because it was so slow and spinny the side spin was more noticeable. I've experienced this before on my own loops.
no offence but tbh it was just the same topspin as boll always does but it was alot shorter behind the net then usual and ma long wasnt expecting that otherwise he would just topspin it back.
For all the people that think it was something "wow special" its not. They are humans too, they just do the same as everyone else but just longer and better. If you keep thinking like that wow they are good they do special things, you will never become good in anything in life.
Putting it simply, you can put two different variations of side spin on a shot. One that rotates with respect to the vertical axis, and would not curve upon hitting the table. The other spins relative to the z axis (imagine an axis perpendicular to the line of the net), that would curve upon bouncing. Think about the types of spins you put on serves, and what types of spin combinations curve more.
you cant have pure side spin like that...ma long didnt get that hit because timo boll got him good. if i was playing boll i would expect him to loop it hard back
My idea: Ma played a service timo boll dropshotted it ma didnt have the chance to backhand topsin the ball, so he decided to play a sidebaskin shot effective beacuse mostly it will come back ah his backand and timo went a Topsin, which hitted the net little, U HAVE WRONG MIDODINA1
Gustav1455 1 month ago
sweet
chillboy211 2 months ago
The ball is wobbling even after ma lins serve and they both absorb and increase the sidespin throughout the whole ball making the last shot almost impossible to return for Ma lin
stampejansson 2 months ago
@stampejansson It's Ma Long dude :)
Mladen1kus 1 month ago
I think Boll just mis-hit the ball a bit, resulting in a loop with very little pace that landed incredibly short on the table. Ma Long was standing too far back and by the time the ball got to him, it was too low for him to do anything but try to guide it back onto the table, and the spin took it out. I doubt it was intentional on Boll's part, because he seemed to apologize after the point.
therighthandrule 3 months ago 2
Thats not special spin it heavy top spin He just hit the top spun ball on wrong angle :)
bkabird991 4 months ago
n00b
CeRuffy 4 months ago
what!?....
ThePotato35 4 months ago
a Lot of spin
a fewer of speed
worapongable 5 months ago
this is veri interesting cause im high...and drunk :)
KyZoGaming 5 months ago 5
I think it's because Boll's topspin shot landed really close to the net, and it bounced out really close to the border, malong was not in a position to counterloop or hit the ball. He was catching the ball too late. I think it's purely luck for Boll.
littlefishxbj 6 months ago
@mzrealm tldr? :D
midodina1 6 months ago
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MrUnzO 7 months ago
Don't you hear: "In Ma Long asshole" in the beginning??
Almana77 7 months ago 6
@Almana77 yeah, you're right :D:D:D:D but it souns better with chinese accent xaxax
MrB0Gi 7 months ago
@Almana77 haha.. lol.. yes =D
knaggelpuff 7 months ago
@17teacmrocks How would you do a counter punch?
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13yannick05 9 months ago
What were you waiting for? It's Timo Boll :)
fabiopalma 9 months ago
slow spinny loop!
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fredrikeis 11 months ago
its alot of top spin, the idiot was just stupid and thought he could carry it back.
quinceythao 11 months ago
I think he tried to "fish it" He just misread how much spin was on it. As for the poster who said he didnt know how to return it. Get real!
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zaphster11 1 year ago
he forgot the sidespin and this aint special topspin just tons of it :)
N0thingIsTrue 1 year ago
had nothing to do with misreading the spin. The ball landed so short, and when you let a super spinny slow loop go anywhere farther than off the bounce then its almost impossible to return. That's why you see ma long chop the ball sometimes... he's so used to backing up for the drive he's used to from other chinese, he gets the short loop and he ends up chopping it back. I've seen him chop two balls in a row. It's all you can do.
Beeray11 1 year ago 4
this is just a spinny topspin... nothing special ^_^. Just a mistake by ma long ^_^
echan1989 1 year ago
Needs more topspin.
mzrealm 1 year ago
ma long just under estimated the side spin.. .that's alll
Bossiiiii 1 year ago
ja ist timo boll.
rosinci 1 year ago
maybe ma long hesitated because he didnt want to hit the table with his bat
ZsebtelepHUN 1 year ago
that slow topspin i likey.
but i learned playing that people either dislike topspin or sidespin
oldirty92 1 year ago
It isn't a special topspin, it's just ALOT of it :)
evisuallover 1 year ago 118
@evisuallover actually difference is not so much the spin. it's the lack of forward drive. boll hit basically pure heavy topspin so it didn't travel far before the kick
anyone over 1800 can do it. generally it's a bad idea b/c you can counter punch through it.
it's jus ma long wasn't ready for it and boll is really good at controlling spin in the first place.
17teacmrocks 8 months ago
@evisuallover that is absolutely fantastic
Moonboy1984 3 months ago
@evisuallover yep. i saw ma lin do similar in a doubles game at wttc 2011. he hit it up, and the ball just suddenly dipped down in midair. = very heavy topspin with little forward momentum
17teacmrocks 2 months ago
Lol I also know how to do..just that I dont want to do it ._.
S9700931G 1 year ago
@schattengangsta09 if everybody in your class can play like that , why aren´t you world number 1 ? you silly faggot ! :D
TTStar7 1 year ago
@schattengangsta09 I bet you can't do it
MrWaaghals 1 year ago
hit it straight up!!! aim for vertical center of the table (not center of the opponent side).
Auxillia 1 year ago
My idea:
Ma played a sidespin service, timo boll dropshotted it
ma didnt have the chance to backhand topspin the ball so he decided to play a sidebackspin shot (effective because mostly,it will come back at his backhand due to the spin generated , so that he could turn around and forehand topspin it also thats why he stayed at left ). Timo looped the ball with massive topspin absorbing amount of sidespin with the topspin,thats why ma's ball went up and right .. due to effect of sidetop spin.
midodina1 1 year ago 38
@midodina1 thank you captain obvious
haydonlee93 1 year ago
@midodina1 TLDR.
mzrealm 9 months ago
@midodina1
No, Boll put this sidespin on himself because if the sidespin on the ball *was* the spin generated by Ma, then the contact of the ball and Boll's bat would have reversed the spin thereby causing Ma's shot to shoot to the left, not the right.
kirby4blues 4 months ago
@midodina1 not to backhand topspin.. but to forehand topspin
xBarneyCalhounx 3 months ago
@midodina1 I think Ma Longs Sidespin is so minimal, that that hasn´t any effect. But Timo Boll kinks his wrist so much that he can play his topspins always with a lot of sidespin.
AgricolaSuperbus 1 month ago
@midodina1 everything is right but the last part. he just hit it up in that direction... use slow mo
mcortezzzzzzz 1 month ago
A lot of spin! ö.Ö
How he did it?
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279bob 1 year ago
I thought a ball with backspin goes low. And if there is top spin on the ball, when the top spin kicks the ball will bounce higher. How come the ball went low after the pitch..?
CheckmateOO7 1 year ago
@CheckmateOO7 - A backspin ball will seem to float through the air and can not be hit and given a very high velocity except for on certain occasions. A topspin ball with seem to dive and can be hit giving it the highest velocity, all traditional smashes have topspin. When the ball is hit with a topspin loop, like here, it will accelerate down table when hitting the table. The reason a ball appears to bounce higher (tt and tennis) when hit with topspin, is because the ball travels much faster
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Thanks for the reply... Thumps up!! I guess you are right. I have understood what you have written like this:- A topspin ball with high velocity will bounce higher. But, when there is no high velocity on the ball, the ball will dive down (like in this video), right..? Correct me if I am wrong.
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Thanks for the reply... Thumps up!! I guess you are right. I have understood what you have written like this:- A topspin ball with high velocity will bounce higher. But, when there is no high velocity on the ball, the ball will dive down (like in this video), right..? Correct me if I am wrong.
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Thanks for the reply... Thumps up!! I guess you are right. I have understood what you have written like this:- A topspin ball with high velocity will bounce higher. But, when there is no high velocity on the ball, the ball will dive down (like in this video), right..? Correct me if I am wrong.
CheckmateOO7 1 year ago
@dkjens0705
Thanks for the reply... Thumps up!! I guess you are right. I have understood what you have written like this:- A topspin ball? with high velocity will bounce higher. But, when there is no high velocity on the ball, the ball will dive down (like in this video), right..? Correct me if I am wrong.
CheckmateOO7 1 year ago
@CheckmateOO7 - Yes, that is correct. Due to how light a tt ball is and how much it can be spun, it can truly act in many different ways both in the air, in the bounce and when hit again.
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Thanks for the reply... !! I guess you are right. I have understood what you have written like this:- A topspin ball with high velocity will bounce higher. But, when there is no high velocity on the ball, the ball will dive down (like in this video), right..? Correct me if I am wrong.
CheckmateOO7 1 year ago
I am chinese .i am humam.
threecowo 1 year ago
If I saw a slow loop like that...
Me:(thinking): FUCK THAT SHIT!*loop drive as hard as I can*
Ha. I still have to learn a lot, so excuse me.
TheManinMoscow45 1 year ago
It's not special topspin. Timo waited for the ball to drop table height or even lower. Topspins it with a high arc loop giving the ball more top than what Ma Long wanted to anticipate. Ma Long didn't know what to do with the ball so he kinda played a passive shot that ricochets off his rubber and he missed the table because of Timo's extremely topspin loop. It's not Special.
if7084 1 year ago
@if7084 You have right, it's not special.
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MrComentadordevideos 1 year ago
timo owns
555Jimson666 1 year ago
there was a lot of spin nice and the mistake from the chinese was that he reached the ball too late hehe nice :D
MrAnimeKill 1 year ago
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karacadag42 1 year ago
i don't get it. why did ma long hit it back slowly instead of looping the shit out of it?
J0kerofHearts 1 year ago
@J0kerofHearts Too late to catch that ball
otterboxiphone 1 year ago
@J0kerofHearts because timo's topspin was absolutely loaded. plus he got it so short so blocking it wouldnt have worked either he had to let it drop and let the spin loop the ball back up in the air literally hope it goes on the table, it was an immense shot from timo
jayjaymatt 1 year ago
@jayjaymatt so you're saying that very short but very loaded topspin balls are unreturnable?
J0kerofHearts 1 year ago
@J0kerofHearts im saying it makes it much harder as blocking is easier if you take it off the bounce when the ball is lower. if it is alot shorter it means you have to reach for it and if you don't see it going short until its too late then you're in trouble.
jayjaymatt 1 year ago
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gefoable 1 year ago
it dropped so fast lol
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my god, nobody gets it.
1) timo boll didn't sorry, he said CHO
2) the best way to return a very spinny short top, it's smash TO the net, your head will think that the ball will hit the net, but the spinny top will make the ball hit around the back line.
3) "so the receiver didnt know which way the spin would apply " OMG, ma long knows that timo boll hasn't pips, and he saw the timo arm movement, it was a "down-to-up" top, so the ball will come VERY spinny.
It's just a mistake from Ma Long.
casamcrem2 2 years ago 3
Man why say sorry? He didn't stole the point...
For contour spin like that it is necessary to be near the table and not to stand back as long.
Boll knows that long often stands back it'sfor that he mades a top spin like that...
He has play with brain!
CHO!
NePhaLis 2 years ago
@NePhaLis that is.
casamcrem2 2 years ago
the first two points from you are correct but it was not just a mistake timo boll had enough time to think so he make a a top spin with side spin if ma long had smashed the ball would this spin not matter but so
PhilKupke 1 year ago
he hit the ball under the table
so the receiver didnt know which way the spin would apply
sylviahan423 2 years ago
it is obvious, by the way his hand was going.
grimrepo941 2 years ago
@sylviahan423 well, but you can probably see the sign on the ball which moves in a specific direction... well maybe the ball had too much spin to see that but i think wang hao just undervalued the spin of timo's topspin^^
gravedigger02 1 year ago
it's Ma long**
Dante007 1 year ago
@Dante007 omg sry yeah... he even said his name in the video xD
gravedigger02 1 year ago
not rly
he see its a topspin
but u need to block this "mega" topspins near as possible at the table when u go back and want to return it from there its rly rly hard
Rossko339 1 year ago
Its a topspin for sure. Its also a slow ball which makes the spin even more relevant. I would probably have missed the return aswell.
Ahldor 2 years ago
Legitdupe is right
SouthyMandem 2 years ago
it just hit the net and he was surprised
tennis4live 2 years ago
It's just a topspin with a fine touch. Ma Long underestimated the spin on the ball and had his racket too open when returning the ball.
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thatsjstgreatpingpng 2 years ago
ohh yh soz it's ma long
SouthyMandem 2 years ago
didnt it just hit the net???
xXxTonkzxXx 2 years ago
hey guys, the only thing is that timo didn't hit the ball perfectly. He hit it somewhere near the odge of his blade, and so the ball landed near the net. Neither of the expected that. So the chinese guy was expecting the ball on the back of the table, and he improved something on the moment, trying to throw the ball from under the table, so that timo couldn't see the spin.
andiy089 2 years ago
how is it a backspin, can u see a backspin from timo? topspin just a higher loop. if it was a backspin it couldn't have bounced of that high from ma lins bat :S:S:S:S
SouthyMandem 2 years ago
@123ricewine - it's not a side spin + back spin. timo did a normal topspin on it. but ma lin didn'[t hit it straight, look carefully he bends his bat.
SouthyMandem 2 years ago
actually he didn't he did put side spin and back spin on it because he was interviewed later on after that match and confirmed that it was side and back spin which is hard to counter spin
123ricewine 2 years ago
You drink to much rice wine to see properly! How is hitting over the top of the ball putting back spin on it?
mase789 2 years ago
@mase789 who are you....go away
123ricewine 2 years ago
I am the person who pointed out your lack of understanding of basic table tennis!
Why dont you answer the question?????????
mase789 2 years ago
haha i think i know more than u
123ricewine 2 years ago
Still cant answer the question!
How is hitting over the top of the ball putting backspin on it?
mase789 2 years ago
it's ma long
tenergy25 2 years ago
actually u both r wrong i know this is not "special topspin" but it is a different type of spin its a mix between side sapin and back spin making it hard to return with counter spin
123ricewine 2 years ago
Totally wrong. Look at how the ball kicks forward on the table and look how the return behaves. If it was backspin it would've floated more and not kicked forward, in fact it might've jumped back across the net.
gimplar 2 years ago
who r u??????
123ricewine 2 years ago
@treamo firstly the ball did not touch the net and secondly u r wrong
vip1238 2 years ago
this is not special topsin. It is just a slower and spinnier way of putting topspin on the ball. The only reason why some people think it is special is because very few professionals use this topspin. The way to do this topsin is rather than hitting the ball flat and at a sharp angle, you raise your bat higher up and with the flat face of the bat. When you are bringing the bat up you do it quickly to generate more spin.
vip1238 2 years ago 3
actually you don't generate way more spin with this "special topspin", the ball is just jumping off the table in another angle, and as a result it's jumping off the racket higher.
same reason why balls who touched the net jump that far away ^^
the net doesn't generate spin either ;)
Treamo 2 years ago
This isnt special top spin guys its only spin before.
Metin2Goron 2 years ago
Its not special at all. People just rarely use it, because speed is better.
If you have an "open" bat while doing a lot of topspin, you get this kind of balls. Just like the topspin you need vs pimps. Because of the nature of Timo's fh, there is a bit of sidespin involved and Ma just did a bad job returning this ball.
A block with a closed bat, short after the bounce, or when you hold your bat above the ball, when it bounces up, will return it and the spin will be translated into speed
Stuffcakes 2 years ago 3
he is right!
vip1238 2 years ago
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just a lucky topspin
dmhoang008 2 years ago
it didnt hit the net , and it was a bit of sidespin topspin as when ma long touched the ball it went to the right side , therefore , there was sidespin ..
midodina1 2 years ago 2
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it hit the net lol..
supertoan1234 2 years ago
just how does he do that? or how DID he do that?
wukjin 2 years ago 2
is the other player timo boll?
Nocommen88 2 years ago 43
The player who does the topspin is Timo Boll... and the other is Ma Long ...
PrinzPilaw 2 years ago 3
@Nocommen88 yes
chickenshit251 1 year ago
ye man
maxclews 1 year ago
@Nocommen88 gut erkannt :D
tomischulz 1 year ago
@Nocommen88 yes
Mladen1kus 1 year ago
@Nocommen88 yeeeeeeeees
matshaha 10 months ago
the table is tiny!
Eddieost0309 2 years ago
it just looks tiny, because of the angle of the camera
SeungRyu94 2 years ago
do any of u play table tennis, cos that just happens sometimes
1011FreeZe1101 2 years ago
incredable spin!!!
and there was no net!
Apfelkuh200 2 years ago 2
seems like timo often comes up with special topspins :D
david93fcb 2 years ago 3
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nah it didnt my friend can kinda of do this, it wuz his mistak, dont worry about it
dudblue12 2 years ago
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i think that the ball touched the net, but okay
nunolance23 2 years ago
the ball DIDN'T touch the net.
just a mistake of ma long.
you know? chinese are humans too.
yea really.
casamcrem2 2 years ago 64
@casamcrem2 It doesn't matter, because Timo's topsin is loaded with spin, making it very hard even for Ma Long to receive.
The mistake of Ma Long was that he did shift the left foot weight two times before preparing his counter loop.
Compantino 1 year ago
@casamcrem2
What??!!
Chinese are humans :D
HerrlingensTTcrack 1 year ago
@casamcrem2 Or we can say "Chinese are ALMOST human" hehehehe
ZeDuBreju 1 year ago
it did not touch the net.If it did the net will jerk or something like that
brandanfoong 2 years ago
dont u think that timo would apologize if the ball hit the net? his clenched fist doesnt look like that... and he was there and didnt see on screen in lousy quality.
mobby1986 2 years ago
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tschoohh, everyone that plays table tennis since young , like me, ( since i was 6 ) can do an topspin like that, and it isn't hard 2 handle topspins like that, i think that Ma Long didn't handle that ball coz it touched in the net. timo boll backhands are spectacular
nunolance23 2 years ago
ohm u know that the ball didnt touch the net and that boll would fuck u in the ass in table tennis?
ersguterjunge467 2 years ago
lol did that once on my friend
naikahnomtom 2 years ago
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the ball touched the net which is not special topsin at all. For those who don't know how to play table tennis, when the ball hits the net, it will sometimes completely change direction requiring the player to save the ball as ma long tried to do. 1/5
klu501 2 years ago
This topspin gets so spinny and short, it seems Ma Long doesn't seem to know how to handle it.
der killer war das netz nicht der spin...
Echschmet 2 years ago
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the ball touched the net.
ttsucht 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure it touched the net. messed up the trajectory and put long out of position. lucky shot.
J0kerofHearts 2 years ago
You can clearly see by the trajectory of the ball that it doenst clip the net, Timo just threw it up slower with more spin as opposed to caking through it at 100mph like they normally do.
Polska001 2 years ago 3
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did such a topspin yesterday with my backhand.
Love it
bassflyerhomie 2 years ago
lol XD
all of us play topspins the way timo boll does
tschoohh 2 years ago
Not really. I have Chinese Loop.
takkyuHero 2 years ago
geil angedreht
toninergiz 2 years ago
he should of smacked it. not like KLASH! but like controlled with alot of angle and yah.
tobben27 2 years ago 3
He was outta position to smack it, cuz the ball bounced very close to the net and ma long was probably expecting it to come a little faster than that. Slow-moving loops that dip below the table are one of the most difficult shots to counter even for pro's, ma long probably knew he was screwed right when boll hit that ball. Now, time for me to go eat some bagles!!!! bagel ----> O
vageta9281984 2 years ago 4
it seems that the ball is a little spinning...
aljelje 2 years ago
Ma Long's follow through on his push is to the left. I assume the side spin from Timo's loop had a small amount of sidespin because of Long. Although because it was so slow and spinny the side spin was more noticeable. I've experienced this before on my own loops.
leebold05 2 years ago 2
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i watched the match in full.
17teacmrocks 2 years ago
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it touched the net retard.
17teacmrocks 2 years ago
uhm, no.. it actually didn't touch the net "retard".
chetterost 2 years ago 5
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no it ddnt so u da retard
jancam555 2 years ago
want a bet that it touched the net???
sackwhacker 2 years ago
ma knows how to handle it, but he hesitated. once you hesitate on topsin, it's over
klu501 2 years ago 8
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no offence but tbh it was just the same topspin as boll always does but it was alot shorter behind the net then usual and ma long wasnt expecting that otherwise he would just topspin it back.
For all the people that think it was something "wow special" its not. They are humans too, they just do the same as everyone else but just longer and better. If you keep thinking like that wow they are good they do special things, you will never become good in anything in life.
kaikaz 3 years ago
the topspin is mixed with sidespin...thats y when ma long hit it...it fly away
PingMast 3 years ago
wouldnt he ball curve upon hitting table if its sidespin?
demystifiedwu1 3 years ago 3
yes, it should have bounced or kicked to the side it was spining
orbitallove 2 years ago
he probably just hit it with the edge of the blade
demystifiedwu1 2 years ago
Nope. That's what we call a European loop.
jkillashark 2 years ago
Looks like the ball hit the net, but it was still very spinny.
OhMymy 2 years ago
I don't think it had sidespin because it bounced linear not towards one side.
BogdaNO88 2 years ago
Putting it simply, you can put two different variations of side spin on a shot. One that rotates with respect to the vertical axis, and would not curve upon hitting the table. The other spins relative to the z axis (imagine an axis perpendicular to the line of the net), that would curve upon bouncing. Think about the types of spins you put on serves, and what types of spin combinations curve more.
orbitallove 2 years ago
you cant have pure side spin like that...ma long didnt get that hit because timo boll got him good. if i was playing boll i would expect him to loop it hard back
demystifiedwu1 2 years ago
I agree I think when Ma tried to lob it it went to the right because he contacted it on the left side. You see this if you look closely
casualcuber 2 years ago
thats because the ball has some right-spin, if you look closely to boll's movement
there is no net-touching at all...
DaimanAbdulla 2 years ago 2
the commentator said that he used unorthodox style to treat that if you watch the full video
demystifiedwu1 3 years ago
lol its more along the lines of trying to loop it but its slightly too short to return it. semi looping
demystifiedwu1 3 years ago