@tomyo669 Nazi ??? first : He was born in Hungary, second :He died in 1886, WAYYYYY before de nazi ( around 1920 by the way ) and finaly...just enjoy de beauty and LEARN !
Actually he is right. Ironicly on june 21 1941 on evening of invasion of Russia Hitler was listening to this song and said we will use this theme as out victory in Russia! Albert Speer wrote in his book.
Tannenberg71410, Right on! It was an epiphany for me when I first discovered that this was the composition I had not previously identified. I've enjoyed it from childhood on. Another "introduction to classical" from the radio days you may be aware of is Emil von Resnicek's Donna Diana overture which was a significant theme in the "Sergeant Preston of the Yukon" radio shows.
@LazlosPlane So what the hell kind of music do you like? You sound like one of these intellectual, anally retentive assholes who only like cacophonic music, Schoenberg and all that shit.
Sure miss Buster Crabb, Dale, and the nasty Charles Middelton as Ming. The music went great with the series.
What a gift for all who listen to his music. Hard to believe his brother in-law was Wagner by sisters marriage. It was brief. His Choral pieces are great also.
Why, why, why do orchestras these days play this so fast? It is meant to be MUCH SLOWER - especially the dramatic bit the Nazis used! Anyone got a correctly played slower version?
This is a not a very good version of this piece. You should try the one by Berliner Philharmoniker under Herbert von Karajan from 1961. That one is very good.
Any old Lone Ranger fans out there? This was one of the classical pieces from which excerpts were played during the Lone Ranger radio shows back in the '40s and '50s. Although not as well known as the last part of the Wm. Tell Overature, parts of this composition were used throughout the broadcasts. That was one of the great features of that program: it introduced kids to classical music and provided mental images to go along with the music. HI YO Silver! Away!
This piece is killing me! I keep on remembering brilliant motifs, and I strain myself trying to figure out where they are from they are all from this!
I always thought this was Wagner . I can't believe its my piano etude and concerti man. NowI have to find the St.Elizabeth requiem.GREAT ORCHESTRation f.IMAGINATION.I think he taught Wagner his later orchestration .Meyerbeer it aint..I wonder if he made 2 piano or piano transcription of this music. His Beeth syph are incredible. He had it all personality,graciousness,imagination,genius &looks,
@lovesGenet@DesAbends Probably some of the greatest orchestration I have ever heard is from Liszt's orchestration of Mephisto Waltz, almost enough to make Wagner Jealous!
I always thought this was Wagner . I can't believe its my piano etude and concerti man. NowI have to find the St.Elizabeth requiem.GREAT ORCHESTRation f.IMAGINATION.I think he taught Wagner his later orchestration .Meyerbeer it aint.
I remember hearing this over the radio whilst rolling eastwards in my Panzer towards moscow - great days. The SS Einsatzgruppen did the 'cleaning up' afterwards and everyone was happy - the customers included :-)
@musikfanat It was what the English speaking people of the world call 'sick' or 'black' humour (humor) - sorry you seem to have taken it the wrong way.
Dovrebbe ispirarsi al poema di Lamartine, "I preludi", ma la sua fu una gestazione lunga.
Non so cosa vorrebbe evocare... Io sento un grande affresco epico e bucolico e un'orchestrazione stupefacente. Poi, se ti ispira il Poema di Lamartine, i quattro elementi o una pastasciutta col pomodoro, non ha molta importanza. Credo che Liszt scrivesse musica per la musica, non colonne sonore 'a favore di...'
@Gellande There is NOTHING on earth like Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries for sheer magnificence, unless you are counting John Williams' Themes for Star Wars,
Superman, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Close Encounters...
vHumbolft77- very true....there is nothing worse than somebody with a dead spirit.....there was once a time for a short time in this world where the world had almost been demystified....
But it was easily identifiable to the radio fans of the Lone Ranger back in the day as the interval music in the middle of the show, although Rossini's William Tell Overature was already the main them.
To this day I still picture the Green Hornet and Kato when I hear Flight of the Bumblebees.
@Katicooooo SO WAS I! THATS EXACTLY WHERE I HEARD IT FIRST AT THE TENDER AGE OF -10 (?) I CALLED UP THE TV STATION AND ASKED THEM THE TITLE OF THE PIECE. I ALSO WANT TO HEAR THE ORCHESTRAL VERSION OF LISZTS SONATA IN Bm ...ALSO USED IN THE SHOW. NICE TO KNOW THERES SOMEONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO KNOWS THIS.
@Bobbykoch1 For me, that would have been the first time my mom played Beethoven for me back when I was in Kindergarten... That was FORTY YEARS AGO!
I got the bug yet again, after Star Trek The Original Series, Space: 1999, Star Wars, Superman and Raiders of the Lost Ark... Batman and Wonder Woman's Theme music was more Rock or Disco Based... It would not be until 1989 and later on in 2005 and 2008 that Batman would get a decent musical score... Wonder Woman is still waiting for hers...
Did you ever see the Steve Holland Flash Gordon TV show produced by a Western Germany studio?
I think it spooked Americans of the time, I wasn't born yet, because most of Flash Gordon's bosses had these heavy German accents, before the studio caught on and made Flash's immediate boss more American.
But the president of the world usually had a name like Champillion.
No. you are of course correct. I happen to be of the opinion that one day life will by discovered out there. Not much different from us, who would never have heard of the people and, for want of a better word, bollocks, that so many of us swear by. Probably, even the 'soul' you mention would be unknown, It certainly is to me.
You seem to be brushing off WW11 as if it was merely another in humanitiy's long history of war. The human race had never EVER stooped this low before. Surely that makes it imperative that it is never forgotten. Incidentally, you neglect to mention the fact that Baremboim was not showered with thanks by Isralies for bringing them the favourite music of the most evil man to take breath.
there've been (and there are) fanatics in all ages and in all religiions...fanatism always has the same face, even if characters may change. I make no distinction.
and I don't brush off WW II --but there's something even worse (yes, even worse) than physical anihilation --the anihilation of the soul, of human thirst for spiritual freedom. How many millions have died -and how many people alive are spiritually dead- thanks to the "wonders" made by zealots in all religions (Chrsitians, Jewish, Islamic)?. If you were a million years light from Earth, would those nationalities, races, etc. have any meaning?
Alaspooryorick0160 This then could be reason behind the fledgling Frog / Kraut empire masquerading under the E.U.banner, Anyway I have more to occupy myself with than sitting in front of a fucking screen, try reading a book. I can recommend the Fu-King Restaurant by Frank Valentine for when you feel like letting down your hair and laughing for a change. Music is desperately important to sanity, not counting Schumman of course,but so is laughter.
call this strange but i grew up during the blitz of ww11and refuse to listen to wagner nor have i ever owned or driven a kraut car. germany as a nation did not come into being until the 1870s which lets out bach, beethovan brahms and many more, who were prussion ,barvarian etc
"Joking apart", _Wagner and Philosophy_ by Bryan Magee has interesting chapter on Wagner's anti-Semitism. It's not apologetics, don't worry!
Worth noting: although Wagner is the "easy target", if we apply similar critical methods to other famous composers, they don't always look so good too! I dream of a funny world, where they find anti-Semitic letters by JS Bach, and consistent musicians hurry to burn all his works! L'homme n'est rien l'ouvre tout.
Germany existed before there was a single state called "Germany". It consisted of the lands where German was spoken. The people there called themselves germans and visitors referred to the area as Germany. Mozart was a famous example who was "proud to be german". Note that he called himself "german" not "austrian"
antisemitism was common in europe throughout the times, mainly popularized also by the catholic church seeing the jews as the murderers of christ. Or think about medieval pogroms as a result of the plague. That should not excuse anything, but please do not blame music for the cruelties done in the third reich.
I really can't help calling your posting strange: The video you comment on doesn't contain Wagner's music - it's Liszt. The origins of the German Nation date back to the year 843 when the Carolinigian Empire was partitioned by the Treaty of Verdun and its Eastern part was given to Charles' grandson Louis the German.
German Nation exists since 870 (NOT 1870) when the Empire of Charlemagne was divided between his grandsons Charles the Chauve (France) and Ludwig the German (Germany).
The germans indeed existed, as descendants of germanic tribes,
and they even had a Holy Empire for some decades, but they split after that and made a complex arrays of city-states ruled by bishops, feudal lords and aristocrats, who maintained small armies. Unification ideas, the national romanticism and all that, started only after Napoleón's invasion. These are the true origins of the german nation.
The Holy Empire existed for some CENTURIES - from 843 to 1806. Even its official name was "Holy Roman Empire of German Nation". It had a emperor (at the end at Vienna), a parliament (at the end at Regensburg; although it represented the mighty princes, not the people), and even a Supreme Court (at Wetzlar).
The period of division without a central power lasted from 1806 to 1871. Such a short period does nut justify the negation of a German Nation!
An empire has a central ruler or leader like Imperial Rome. There was some great kins of Germany indeed (Otto the Great. Frederick Barbarossa) but later the imperial power declined, the empire was split in micro-entities and the power was split into bishops, elector prices, dukes, aristocrats and small kingdoms of feudal-character and militaristic. Prussia emerged later, but a unified Germany just appeared when Hannover, Bayern, Prussia and dozens of others small entities joined together.
It was indeed, that period, in which "national romanticism" emerged. Ernst Moritz Ardnt wrote his famous poems that were read by everyone at both sides of the Rhine. People joined together to revolt against Napoleon, because they wanted more freedom and less serfdom. But with a centralized power, came the militarism.
Certainly, the central power in the Holy Roman Empire was always weaker than in states like Britain oder France; moreover it declined at the end of the Middle Ages. But the central power existed - and never vanished completely. Even if it had, that would not have affected the existence of the nation itself. Or do you want to claim that there was no Polish nation between 1795 and 1918?
I also agree that the national romanticist mouvement emerged in the 19th c.; but the nation itself is older.
don't mix up the German culture with a given state --Beethoven, Bach, Mendelssohn, Haydn, in music, as well as Herder, Goethe, Schiller, Hegel, the Humboldts, Fichte, etc. , in other fields, all of them are inextricably linked to that culture. You name WWII. Well, take Daniel Baremboim's example, who being Jewish himself, brought Wagner to Tel Aviv. There's good and evil in all human beings, in all nations, in all races. Nobody has the monopoly in that regard. Fanatism is the real evil...
Nationalism figures into musical things just as it figures into anything else, and to casually dismiss it in such a fashion is sheer idiocy, and completely lacking in any cultural understanding, it's far from 'useless.'
One need look no further than Chopin for nationalism as a component of musical creativity. He was referred to as "More Polish than Poland" in his adopted country of France and his music fairly brims with traditional folk melodies he heard as a child. Nationalism matters.
besides "social conflicts between country", there's, like it or not, quite a lot of art that is an outgrowth of nationalistic feelings, although perhaps nationalism is a bit too narrow in meaning; but is there something misguided about perceiving the magyar character of kodaly's music for example? i think much of this attitude may well be the result of cultural illiteracy, in addition of course to a recognition of some less constructive tendencies related to nationalism.
Ok... It was the main melody ( a part of it) of the "German Wochenschau" in the second worldwar.... so what??? It is great music also the "badenweiler marsch" and wagner ... the music was "misused"....
Hello, I come from hungary, the home of Liszt. I'm very very proud of Liszt. It's a good thing, to be Hungary because of my little,inconsequential country, the home such a great composer. Thank you friends.
I think Peter Lorre was Hungarian too, as were the Gabor sisters, at least by decent.
Michael Curtiz the movie director behind the Adventures of Robin Hood with Erroll Flynn, and Casablanca with Humphrey Bogart was Hungarian too. I understand his original name was Mihali Kertesz.
Hungary a little inconsequential country? Are you kidding? Hungarians won 13 Nobel Prizes, invented the electric motor, electric generator, transformer, transformer, turbogenerator, Tungsten filament lamp, krypton electric bulb, electronic television, Plasmy TV, radar astronomy, LED technology, turboprop jet engine, particle accelerator, holography, and BASIC programming language.
And the music of Hungary: Liszt, Dohnányi, Bartók, Kodály, Rózsa.
The old fart's version of Lux Aeterna? That song is good but its been overused to the max everywhere I find, well mainly youtube, its just lost all value imo.
Nationalistic feelings are more and more looked down upon by the "establishment". Don't feel bad as you've been conditioned to feel this uselessness. I too agree with schmetterlink -- let him feel proud.
Me ha gustado tu comentario, Urenmaiet, que recien lo veo. Tanto que lo he copiado a un archivo de citas que tengo. Sobre todo, justo hoy 30 de marzo que cumplo 74 anos!
What else is our life but a series of preludes to that unknown Hymn, the first and solemn note of which is intoned by Death? - Love is the glowing dawn of all existence; but what is the fate where the first delights of happiness are not interrupted by some storm, the mortal blast of which dissipates its fine illusions, the fatal lightening of which consumes its altar;
and where in the cruelly wounded soul which, on issuing from one of these tempests, does not endeavour to rest his recollection in the calm serenity of life in the fields?
Nevertheless man hardly gives himself up for long to the enjoyment of the beneficent stillness which at first he has shared in Nature's bosom, and when "the trumpet sounds the alarm", he hastens, to the dangerous post, whatever the war may be, which calls him to its ranks, in order at last to recover in the combat full consciousness of himself and entire possession of his energy.
I first heard this as background music for the Buster Crabbe Flash Gordon films; it took me more than thirty years to discuver what it was (and I listen to a fair amount of classical music). Thanks for posting.--arnie113
I have the Flash Gordon serial; I play the DVD mainly to watch the beginning with the best parts of this music. When I first saw/heard the music in the serial, I wondered just what it was. It was too good to have been cranked out for the serial! I was thrilled to find out what is was.
I am not quiet sure, but maybe this could be a record from the label NAXOS. Ask your local shop for more details about NAXOS. By the way was this peace used as an intro to the weekly talk of Hitler during the war. He loved this music. And if I be honest, when I hear this and remmeber his "Eaglesnest" in Berchtesgaden, you will feel the greatest of all. It feels that you can have the world. It makes you feel free and totaly independent. A feeling every human being has. God save this small planet.
sections of les preludes where used is many early b films of the 30's and 40's,the most notable film this piece was used was the 1940 universal serial "flash gordon conquers the
universe" the other films were: undersea kingdom(1936) dick tracy(1937) the vigilantes are coming(1937) zorro rides again(1937) flash gordon (1936) and the black cat(1934)
the music was always played when nazi germany announced its deaths at the battle of stalingrad to the german people via radio...
this way the nazis abused this music so it was not heard in germany for years until people became enlightened and encouraged enough to see that it was not the music who killed the german and russian soldiers in stalingrad...
that`s wrong. LES PRELUDES played for the first time when germany starts the OPERATION BARBAROSSA. (Invasion in Russia). Everytime when the Wochenschau (Weeknews) reports from the Eastern Front, parts of LES PRELUDES was the recognition-song. And this was ordered by the Reichsminister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels!
THUMBS UP IF ALBERT SPEER'S BOOK BROUGHT YOU HERE!
MaskedTehGamer 2 weeks ago
He was born not far from where I live now. Max 10-20 km
Blaze05100 1 month ago
@tomyo669 Nazi ??? first : He was born in Hungary, second :He died in 1886, WAYYYYY before de nazi ( around 1920 by the way ) and finaly...just enjoy de beauty and LEARN !
1337mysterious 1 month ago 3
@1337mysterious
Actually he is right. Ironicly on june 21 1941 on evening of invasion of Russia Hitler was listening to this song and said we will use this theme as out victory in Russia! Albert Speer wrote in his book.
MaskedTehGamer 2 weeks ago
gotta love those nazi songs
tomyo669 2 months ago
Awsome!!
IsisSlovenska 2 months ago
Tannenberg71410, Right on! It was an epiphany for me when I first discovered that this was the composition I had not previously identified. I've enjoyed it from childhood on. Another "introduction to classical" from the radio days you may be aware of is Emil von Resnicek's Donna Diana overture which was a significant theme in the "Sergeant Preston of the Yukon" radio shows.
curt112442 2 months ago
Theme song to Operation Barbarossa!
MrJacobk18 3 months ago
This was the theme song for the German invasion of Russia in 1941. lol.
discipleoftheteapot 3 months ago 3
Es lebe Ungarn!
VIRIATO1995 4 months ago
Unbeleiveably beautiful music!
He was Hungarian! (as me) : ')
Zatony91 4 months ago 2
<3
SuperOsckr 4 months ago
MUSE
elrafax1987 6 months ago
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Simplistic, sentimental tripe, like all Liszt.
LazlosPlane 6 months ago
@LazlosPlane
like "La lugubre gondola" and "Unstern"?
DesAbends 6 months ago
@DesAbends ESPECIALLY!
LazlosPlane 5 months ago
@LazlosPlane So what the hell kind of music do you like? You sound like one of these intellectual, anally retentive assholes who only like cacophonic music, Schoenberg and all that shit.
marcusantonius90 5 months ago
Sure miss Buster Crabb, Dale, and the nasty Charles Middelton as Ming. The music went great with the series.
What a gift for all who listen to his music. Hard to believe his brother in-law was Wagner by sisters marriage. It was brief. His Choral pieces are great also.
Psyche777able 6 months ago
And he was Hungarian! :')
CruChampion 6 months ago 3
Amazing work.Who is the performers?
alexander1998100 7 months ago
Why, why, why do orchestras these days play this so fast? It is meant to be MUCH SLOWER - especially the dramatic bit the Nazis used! Anyone got a correctly played slower version?
Blabloo72 7 months ago
@Blabloo72 Is there such thing as the word correct in music?
superazian10 5 months ago
@superazian10 Erm, yes, the music written on paper perhaps with the speed it should be played at as decreed by the composer?
Blabloo72 3 months ago
This is a not a very good version of this piece. You should try the one by Berliner Philharmoniker under Herbert von Karajan from 1961. That one is very good.
sweinnc 8 months ago
Magnificent!
gerardbedecarter 9 months ago
Any old Lone Ranger fans out there? This was one of the classical pieces from which excerpts were played during the Lone Ranger radio shows back in the '40s and '50s. Although not as well known as the last part of the Wm. Tell Overature, parts of this composition were used throughout the broadcasts. That was one of the great features of that program: it introduced kids to classical music and provided mental images to go along with the music. HI YO Silver! Away!
Tannenberg71410 9 months ago
a mon avis y a 8 habitué de la techno qui on é couté
ladygaga17700 9 months ago
This man is ab phenom
MarseilleYamakasi 10 months ago
I too thought it was Wagner.
Stinkinini 10 months ago
I'd like to kindly ask you to change the name from Franz to Ferenc, as it is his name.
Thanks!
And thank you for sharing this piece with the world!!!
TonyoHUN 11 months ago
@TonyoHUN Both are correct. It just depends on what part of the world you're from.
OriginalBasaliskos 10 months ago
@FreiNemmersdorf I belive Liszt married Wagner's daughter Cosima.
starborg9 11 months ago
2:20 :D
Yosho1108 1 year ago
This piece is killing me! I keep on remembering brilliant motifs, and I strain myself trying to figure out where they are from they are all from this!
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
Wer spielt? Wer dirigiert?
xerxes52 1 year ago
Touché de lire un italien faisant un rapprochement entre Lamartine et Liszt.... ah ces italiens, quels artistes !!
MrConcepto 1 year ago
I love this song!
MrWonka191 1 year ago
I heard this in a live performance and it was probably the most amazing piece of music I have ever heard. Truly incredible.
darkwarlock19 1 year ago
8 people have no idea what music is...
ammosmith 1 year ago
A pure genius.(and hell yeah, he was hungarian)
elldorado1991 1 year ago
@elldorado1991 What else? :)
ivlaflap 1 year ago
Nador Tamas. "Liszt Ferenc eletenek kronikaja". It is amazing book about maestro!!!
garnizonnik 1 year ago 2
I always thought this was Wagner . I can't believe its my piano etude and concerti man. NowI have to find the St.Elizabeth requiem.GREAT ORCHESTRation f.IMAGINATION.I think he taught Wagner his later orchestration .Meyerbeer it aint..I wonder if he made 2 piano or piano transcription of this music. His Beeth syph are incredible. He had it all personality,graciousness,imagination,genius &looks,
lovesGenet 1 year ago 13
@lovesGenet
He transcribed all Symphonic Poems and both Symphonies for 2 pianos, plus many other works. Search in imslp.
DesAbends 1 year ago
@lovesGenet @DesAbends Probably some of the greatest orchestration I have ever heard is from Liszt's orchestration of Mephisto Waltz, almost enough to make Wagner Jealous!
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
@lovesGenet May I give an extra information: In third Reich this prelude was used as an opener for 'Sondermeldungen'.
tasteism 1 year ago
I always thought this was Wagner . I can't believe its my piano etude and concerti man. NowI have to find the St.Elizabeth requiem.GREAT ORCHESTRation f.IMAGINATION.I think he taught Wagner his later orchestration .Meyerbeer it aint.
lovesGenet 1 year ago
Like the music, but couldn't they have had it more animated with lighter colors. Some live pictures with less depressing gray/brown?
1958debs 1 year ago
@1958debs
well, do one like that by yourself, darling! :-)
DesAbends 1 year ago 24
@1958debs Did you come here to see beauty or hear it?
let3 7 months ago 3
so many orchestral effects,never since beethoven
77liszt 1 year ago
2:37 best part
SiLeNtXaViOr 1 year ago
the first notes are also the first of the franck d minor symphony
77liszt 1 year ago
Along with Franz Liszt... Sorry, I forgot to mention him...
AceTheBathound 1 year ago
listz is my fav piano composer...
the symphonic poems are great!
1clarinet1981 1 year ago
8 people are deaf.
JDBoatright 1 year ago
si sente l' influenza wagneriana.....
edolivorno93 1 year ago
People who are unfamiliar with this piece: don't forget to listen to the second half (link to your right)! That's where good stuff is!
schmetterlink 1 year ago
I remember hearing this as the theme from the Universal Serial "Flash Gordon Conquers The Universe."
pookerville 1 year ago
I remember hearing this over the radio whilst rolling eastwards in my Panzer towards moscow - great days. The SS Einsatzgruppen did the 'cleaning up' afterwards and everyone was happy - the customers included :-)
Blabloo72 1 year ago
@Blabloo72 You need to see a psychiatrist...
musikfanat 1 year ago
@Blabloo72 You need to see a psychiatrist...
musikfanat 1 year ago
@musikfanat It was what the English speaking people of the world call 'sick' or 'black' humour (humor) - sorry you seem to have taken it the wrong way.
Blabloo72 1 year ago
@Blabloo72 Oh, ok! I was hoping that you meant it as a joke. My comment was meant as a joke, too!
We're ok!
musikfanat 1 year ago
@Blabloo72
I too remember playing this on my charge through western |Russia in my Challenger. But we had sony walkman personal stereos,
Oldsoho 1 year ago
@Oldsoho Ha, ha, ha, ha - brilliant!
Blabloo72 1 month ago
I just love 2:39 to 3:30 - awesome!
Blabloo72 1 year ago
When will someone upload the theme to Flesh Gordon?
I really like that one too...
ysbaddaden2003 1 year ago
Flash! AHHHHHH! always think of buster crabbe when i hear this great piece of music.
Akirajay38 1 year ago
3:33 :D
ssertrof 1 year ago
well i have to play this for side by side and i dont know
violinman606 1 year ago
A parte "bello" non mi dice molto questo pezzo.
Cosa dovrebbe "evocare"?
newFranzFerencLiszt 2 years ago
Dovrebbe ispirarsi al poema di Lamartine, "I preludi", ma la sua fu una gestazione lunga.
Non so cosa vorrebbe evocare... Io sento un grande affresco epico e bucolico e un'orchestrazione stupefacente. Poi, se ti ispira il Poema di Lamartine, i quattro elementi o una pastasciutta col pomodoro, non ha molta importanza. Credo che Liszt scrivesse musica per la musica, non colonne sonore 'a favore di...'
:D
DesAbends 2 years ago 5
@DesAbends Concordo con te: è un poema grandioso!
vibos65 1 year ago
@DesAbends you must be joking
lotorobly 7 months ago
I had "Gansehaut"(Goosebumps), at around 2: 47 , man everything is so silent and then...
brrr...:D
I like Brahms Hungarian Rhapsody nr 5 is magnificent and Wagner Valkyres
Gellande 2 years ago 6
@Gellande There is NOTHING on earth like Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries for sheer magnificence, unless you are counting John Williams' Themes for Star Wars,
Superman, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Close Encounters...
AceTheBathound 1 year ago
@AceTheBathound
haha
Gellande 1 year ago
@AceTheBathound I would say Symphony No. 4 by David Maslanka wins in the magnificance department. The last three minutes are just astounding.
evildude109 10 months ago
@evildude109 I'll find it and see... Thanks for telling me...
AceTheBathound 10 months ago
@Gellande you might mean earlier? like 2:37...but yes, it's wonderful
kappelmeister123 1 year ago
@Gellande You mean Hungarian Dance no.5, because Brahms never made rhapsody, it was dances
MegaDocalex 1 year ago
This is quintessential tranquility... the aether and epoch of the human creative mind.... very little matches this.
AltarOfTriumph 2 years ago
WE PLAYED THIS AT INTERLOCHEN!!!
HannahXIV 2 years ago
vHumbolft77- very true....there is nothing worse than somebody with a dead spirit.....there was once a time for a short time in this world where the world had almost been demystified....
mgkeoh 2 years ago
This piece turned me on to the classical music. Never was a Nazi, but I was a "Flash Gordon" fan.
Katicooooo 2 years ago 20
@Katicooooo Neither was Liszt you idiot.
AltarOfTriumph 1 year ago
@Katicooooo
I thought I'd be the only one to know that.
But it was easily identifiable to the radio fans of the Lone Ranger back in the day as the interval music in the middle of the show, although Rossini's William Tell Overature was already the main them.
To this day I still picture the Green Hornet and Kato when I hear Flight of the Bumblebees.
ysbaddaden2003 1 year ago
@Katicooooo SO WAS I! THATS EXACTLY WHERE I HEARD IT FIRST AT THE TENDER AGE OF -10 (?) I CALLED UP THE TV STATION AND ASKED THEM THE TITLE OF THE PIECE. I ALSO WANT TO HEAR THE ORCHESTRAL VERSION OF LISZTS SONATA IN Bm ...ALSO USED IN THE SHOW. NICE TO KNOW THERES SOMEONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO KNOWS THIS.
Xeqshinr 1 year ago
@Katicooooo WTF has this got to do with Nazis or Flash Gordon?
AceTheBathound 1 year ago
@AceTheBathound
Flash Gordon, which i saw in the '40s was full of classical music. It was very influential on my love of classical music.
Les Preludes was played a lot during many of the scenes of this great movie serial.
-Bobby Koch
Bobbykoch1 1 year ago
@Bobbykoch1 For me, that would have been the first time my mom played Beethoven for me back when I was in Kindergarten... That was FORTY YEARS AGO!
I got the bug yet again, after Star Trek The Original Series, Space: 1999, Star Wars, Superman and Raiders of the Lost Ark... Batman and Wonder Woman's Theme music was more Rock or Disco Based... It would not be until 1989 and later on in 2005 and 2008 that Batman would get a decent musical score... Wonder Woman is still waiting for hers...
AceTheBathound 1 year ago
@AceTheBathound
Try the theme to the Batman serial of 1942, starring Lewis Wilson, it had a great piece by Wagner over the opening credits.
ysbaddaden2003 1 year ago
@ysbaddaden2003 Okay... Thanks for telling me!
AceTheBathound 1 year ago
@Katicooooo
Did you ever see the Steve Holland Flash Gordon TV show produced by a Western Germany studio?
I think it spooked Americans of the time, I wasn't born yet, because most of Flash Gordon's bosses had these heavy German accents, before the studio caught on and made Flash's immediate boss more American.
But the president of the world usually had a name like Champillion.
ysbaddaden2003 1 year ago
Horns, aren't perfeckt but are very, very good!!
KiksMan92 2 years ago
the horns are off.......
Marmalade000000 2 years ago
unser kulturelles erbe. verteidigt es !
Kettenhund1000 2 years ago
lol it was used as a propaganda song by the nazis.... very cool :D
00hubertus 2 years ago 4
yes ! by Die Deutsche Wochensau
elgor89 2 years ago
The 5:50 part is awesome
Pinkvision503 2 years ago
No. you are of course correct. I happen to be of the opinion that one day life will by discovered out there. Not much different from us, who would never have heard of the people and, for want of a better word, bollocks, that so many of us swear by. Probably, even the 'soul' you mention would be unknown, It certainly is to me.
alaspooryorick0160 2 years ago
As far as I'm concerned wer'e pretty fucked now but I take your point. Still, on the bright side...we would'nt have fucking Vera Lynn.
alaspooryorick0160 2 years ago
You seem to be brushing off WW11 as if it was merely another in humanitiy's long history of war. The human race had never EVER stooped this low before. Surely that makes it imperative that it is never forgotten. Incidentally, you neglect to mention the fact that Baremboim was not showered with thanks by Isralies for bringing them the favourite music of the most evil man to take breath.
alaspooryorick0160 2 years ago
World War Eleven....I think we'd be pretty fucked by then mate :/
HailTheOrder 2 years ago
there've been (and there are) fanatics in all ages and in all religiions...fanatism always has the same face, even if characters may change. I make no distinction.
vHumboldt77 2 years ago
and I don't brush off WW II --but there's something even worse (yes, even worse) than physical anihilation --the anihilation of the soul, of human thirst for spiritual freedom. How many millions have died -and how many people alive are spiritually dead- thanks to the "wonders" made by zealots in all religions (Chrsitians, Jewish, Islamic)?. If you were a million years light from Earth, would those nationalities, races, etc. have any meaning?
vHumboldt77 2 years ago
when I stated 'not counting Schumman' I did not meen it the way it may sound. But it didn't do his sanity a lot of good did it ?
alaspooryorick0160 2 years ago
Alaspooryorick0160 This then could be reason behind the fledgling Frog / Kraut empire masquerading under the E.U.banner, Anyway I have more to occupy myself with than sitting in front of a fucking screen, try reading a book. I can recommend the Fu-King Restaurant by Frank Valentine for when you feel like letting down your hair and laughing for a change. Music is desperately important to sanity, not counting Schumman of course,but so is laughter.
alaspooryorick0160 2 years ago
call this strange but i grew up during the blitz of ww11and refuse to listen to wagner nor have i ever owned or driven a kraut car. germany as a nation did not come into being until the 1870s which lets out bach, beethovan brahms and many more, who were prussion ,barvarian etc
alaspooryorick0160 2 years ago
Wagner 1813-1883, Brahms 1833-1897. :)
"Joking apart", _Wagner and Philosophy_ by Bryan Magee has interesting chapter on Wagner's anti-Semitism. It's not apologetics, don't worry!
Worth noting: although Wagner is the "easy target", if we apply similar critical methods to other famous composers, they don't always look so good too! I dream of a funny world, where they find anti-Semitic letters by JS Bach, and consistent musicians hurry to burn all his works! L'homme n'est rien l'ouvre tout.
RDSerebrianny 2 years ago
Germany existed before there was a single state called "Germany". It consisted of the lands where German was spoken. The people there called themselves germans and visitors referred to the area as Germany. Mozart was a famous example who was "proud to be german". Note that he called himself "german" not "austrian"
middxguy58 2 years ago
antisemitism was common in europe throughout the times, mainly popularized also by the catholic church seeing the jews as the murderers of christ. Or think about medieval pogroms as a result of the plague. That should not excuse anything, but please do not blame music for the cruelties done in the third reich.
scepticalchymist 2 years ago
I really can't help calling your posting strange: The video you comment on doesn't contain Wagner's music - it's Liszt. The origins of the German Nation date back to the year 843 when the Carolinigian Empire was partitioned by the Treaty of Verdun and its Eastern part was given to Charles' grandson Louis the German.
German Nation exists since 870 (NOT 1870) when the Empire of Charlemagne was divided between his grandsons Charles the Chauve (France) and Ludwig the German (Germany).
Doraldo171 2 years ago
The germans indeed existed, as descendants of germanic tribes,
and they even had a Holy Empire for some decades, but they split after that and made a complex arrays of city-states ruled by bishops, feudal lords and aristocrats, who maintained small armies. Unification ideas, the national romanticism and all that, started only after Napoleón's invasion. These are the true origins of the german nation.
KronprinzAdam 2 years ago
The Holy Empire existed for some CENTURIES - from 843 to 1806. Even its official name was "Holy Roman Empire of German Nation". It had a emperor (at the end at Vienna), a parliament (at the end at Regensburg; although it represented the mighty princes, not the people), and even a Supreme Court (at Wetzlar).
The period of division without a central power lasted from 1806 to 1871. Such a short period does nut justify the negation of a German Nation!
Doraldo171 2 years ago
An empire has a central ruler or leader like Imperial Rome. There was some great kins of Germany indeed (Otto the Great. Frederick Barbarossa) but later the imperial power declined, the empire was split in micro-entities and the power was split into bishops, elector prices, dukes, aristocrats and small kingdoms of feudal-character and militaristic. Prussia emerged later, but a unified Germany just appeared when Hannover, Bayern, Prussia and dozens of others small entities joined together.
KronprinzAdam 2 years ago
It was indeed, that period, in which "national romanticism" emerged. Ernst Moritz Ardnt wrote his famous poems that were read by everyone at both sides of the Rhine. People joined together to revolt against Napoleon, because they wanted more freedom and less serfdom. But with a centralized power, came the militarism.
KronprinzAdam 2 years ago
Certainly, the central power in the Holy Roman Empire was always weaker than in states like Britain oder France; moreover it declined at the end of the Middle Ages. But the central power existed - and never vanished completely. Even if it had, that would not have affected the existence of the nation itself. Or do you want to claim that there was no Polish nation between 1795 and 1918?
I also agree that the national romanticist mouvement emerged in the 19th c.; but the nation itself is older.
Doraldo171 2 years ago
don't mix up the German culture with a given state --Beethoven, Bach, Mendelssohn, Haydn, in music, as well as Herder, Goethe, Schiller, Hegel, the Humboldts, Fichte, etc. , in other fields, all of them are inextricably linked to that culture. You name WWII. Well, take Daniel Baremboim's example, who being Jewish himself, brought Wagner to Tel Aviv. There's good and evil in all human beings, in all nations, in all races. Nobody has the monopoly in that regard. Fanatism is the real evil...
vHumboldt77 2 years ago 3
Nationalism figures into musical things just as it figures into anything else, and to casually dismiss it in such a fashion is sheer idiocy, and completely lacking in any cultural understanding, it's far from 'useless.'
One need look no further than Chopin for nationalism as a component of musical creativity. He was referred to as "More Polish than Poland" in his adopted country of France and his music fairly brims with traditional folk melodies he heard as a child. Nationalism matters.
MarquisEstelle 2 years ago 2
besides "social conflicts between country", there's, like it or not, quite a lot of art that is an outgrowth of nationalistic feelings, although perhaps nationalism is a bit too narrow in meaning; but is there something misguided about perceiving the magyar character of kodaly's music for example? i think much of this attitude may well be the result of cultural illiteracy, in addition of course to a recognition of some less constructive tendencies related to nationalism.
ijrupahsinosub 2 years ago
Ok... It was the main melody ( a part of it) of the "German Wochenschau" in the second worldwar.... so what??? It is great music also the "badenweiler marsch" and wagner ... the music was "misused"....
Liszt is great...
stierpaul 2 years ago
Hello, I come from hungary, the home of Liszt. I'm very very proud of Liszt. It's a good thing, to be Hungary because of my little,inconsequential country, the home such a great composer. Thank you friends.
atmeneti2 2 years ago 2
So what do you think of Bela Lugosi?
I think Peter Lorre was Hungarian too, as were the Gabor sisters, at least by decent.
Michael Curtiz the movie director behind the Adventures of Robin Hood with Erroll Flynn, and Casablanca with Humphrey Bogart was Hungarian too. I understand his original name was Mihali Kertesz.
ysbaddaden2003 2 years ago
Hungary a little inconsequential country? Are you kidding? Hungarians won 13 Nobel Prizes, invented the electric motor, electric generator, transformer, transformer, turbogenerator, Tungsten filament lamp, krypton electric bulb, electronic television, Plasmy TV, radar astronomy, LED technology, turboprop jet engine, particle accelerator, holography, and BASIC programming language.
And the music of Hungary: Liszt, Dohnányi, Bartók, Kodály, Rózsa.
You should be proud of your country!
guenther448 2 years ago
And for example also you can take Vitamin C because of Albert Szent Györgyi! Hungarian.
feenelfuturo 2 years ago
This piece is one of my favourites, a source of inspiration to me even
Casemaster3000 2 years ago
This is the old fart's version of Lux Aeterna.
GreatUnwashedMass 2 years ago
The old fart's version of Lux Aeterna? That song is good but its been overused to the max everywhere I find, well mainly youtube, its just lost all value imo.
Casemaster3000 2 years ago
4th horn is so beautiful.
TromboneMachine 2 years ago
When I hear this, I feel proud that Im Hungarian.
TonyoHUN 2 years ago
Nationalistic feelings are pretty useless.
andresgualdron 2 years ago
Let him feel proud, asshole. Enjoy your useful feelings.
schmetterlink 2 years ago 2
Nationalistic feelings are more and more looked down upon by the "establishment". Don't feel bad as you've been conditioned to feel this uselessness. I too agree with schmetterlink -- let him feel proud.
Gweezian 2 years ago
Me ha gustado tu comentario, Urenmaiet, que recien lo veo. Tanto que lo he copiado a un archivo de citas que tengo. Sobre todo, justo hoy 30 de marzo que cumplo 74 anos!
voltape 2 years ago
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voltape 2 years ago
does anyone know if theres an english translation of the poem les preludes?
PrinsesseSalomon 3 years ago
1.
What else is our life but a series of preludes to that unknown Hymn, the first and solemn note of which is intoned by Death? - Love is the glowing dawn of all existence; but what is the fate where the first delights of happiness are not interrupted by some storm, the mortal blast of which dissipates its fine illusions, the fatal lightening of which consumes its altar;
DesAbends 3 years ago
2.
and where in the cruelly wounded soul which, on issuing from one of these tempests, does not endeavour to rest his recollection in the calm serenity of life in the fields?
DesAbends 3 years ago
3.
Nevertheless man hardly gives himself up for long to the enjoyment of the beneficent stillness which at first he has shared in Nature's bosom, and when "the trumpet sounds the alarm", he hastens, to the dangerous post, whatever the war may be, which calls him to its ranks, in order at last to recover in the combat full consciousness of himself and entire possession of his energy.
Alphonse de Lamartine
Nouvelles Méditations Poétiques
DesAbends 3 years ago
i have the piano transcription of this, never heard of it so here i am checking it out and i am completely blown away. liszt was ahead of his time.
Rlaw2222 3 years ago
I first heard this as background music for the Buster Crabbe Flash Gordon films; it took me more than thirty years to discuver what it was (and I listen to a fair amount of classical music). Thanks for posting.--arnie113
arnie113 3 years ago
yur're right , Arnie- thhis is the music from Flash Gordon. Have I not seen it, when it was new! (befoer 1940)- It's wonderful to be 73!!!
voltape 3 years ago
It was also used as "travelling music:" on the Lone Ranger, circa 1945, which is where I heard it.
tr64yokid 2 years ago
GRANDE GRANDE GRANDE !!!
Grazie
sal
Kappa2sal 3 years ago
I was a kid in the 1940's. It has stuck in my mind for nearly 6 decades and it still moves me to hear it. God Bless.
sdt1944
sdt1944 3 years ago
Now you tell me! you should be ashamed to be that young! I was 5 in 1940!!! Ahhhhh The glories we have seen, us oldies!!!
voltape 3 years ago 2
Flour Ferenc was one of the most famous composer with Hungarian ancestry, for me this work the kindest :)
Gaboril 3 years ago
Franz Liszt in hungarian: Liszt Ferenc, not Flour Ferenc, i'm sorry i wrote this badly...
Gaboril 3 years ago
Flour hahaha!
maxi937 3 years ago
I have the Flash Gordon serial; I play the DVD mainly to watch the beginning with the best parts of this music. When I first saw/heard the music in the serial, I wondered just what it was. It was too good to have been cranked out for the serial! I was thrilled to find out what is was.
444WIMP 3 years ago
WOW!!!
BronxBornBroad 3 years ago
was this recording from a cd,and if so, what is
the name of the disc and the record label,this
is an incredible version of les preludes.
this piece almost sounds like it was made for
a movie
filmmakerman9 3 years ago
I am not quiet sure, but maybe this could be a record from the label NAXOS. Ask your local shop for more details about NAXOS. By the way was this peace used as an intro to the weekly talk of Hitler during the war. He loved this music. And if I be honest, when I hear this and remmeber his "Eaglesnest" in Berchtesgaden, you will feel the greatest of all. It feels that you can have the world. It makes you feel free and totaly independent. A feeling every human being has. God save this small planet.
staudtwerner 3 years ago
sections of les preludes where used is many early b films of the 30's and 40's,the most notable film this piece was used was the 1940 universal serial "flash gordon conquers the
universe" the other films were: undersea kingdom(1936) dick tracy(1937) the vigilantes are coming(1937) zorro rides again(1937) flash gordon (1936) and the black cat(1934)
filmmakerman9 3 years ago
the music was always played when nazi germany announced its deaths at the battle of stalingrad to the german people via radio...
this way the nazis abused this music so it was not heard in germany for years until people became enlightened and encouraged enough to see that it was not the music who killed the german and russian soldiers in stalingrad...
mj171 3 years ago
"Les Préludes" was Hitler's favourite piece.
DesAbends 3 years ago
Really?
Amatherasu1789 3 years ago
and King Kong was his favorite movie, so ?
GreatUnwashedMass 3 years ago 2
that`s wrong. LES PRELUDES played for the first time when germany starts the OPERATION BARBAROSSA. (Invasion in Russia). Everytime when the Wochenschau (Weeknews) reports from the Eastern Front, parts of LES PRELUDES was the recognition-song. And this was ordered by the Reichsminister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels!
CitroenC4WRC 3 years ago
Also parts of it were used as background music for the Lone Ranger radio series.
gulomb 3 years ago
Flash Gordon? Really? I didnt know that. This is a great piece. Liszt was a genius. by the way, who is playing?
Rodintube 3 years ago
this is fantastic music,since i was a kid and heard it as the theme to FLASH GORDON,it has touched my soul.
navywrslr 3 years ago