Hooray! thanks for the tips,the floor turned out beautifully and was relatively easy considering all the cut outs on the floor, but your tips made so much sense it made it almost easy.
It's a real different way they install vinyl where this guy is from. I would love to work where he is as i would never get paid for that work here in NZ. 1/4 round to hide the cutting in? Why not just take more care.
@ShowMeTheFloor Thx for reply. Over here if we fitted a 1/4 round we would not get paid. Have had layers from European countries come over and silicone their edges which customers did not accept. Our prep inculdes ardex feather finish coat to entire floor right to the edges and we have to cut vinyl exact to edges. Do not have any problem with edges lifting. Are not having a go at you, just pointing out different ways of laying. Wish we did like you as would be far easier.
Do not patch the underlayment seams unless you have gaps. Underlayment seam "show though" is almost always the patch cracking and pushing up when the underlayment swells from spreading a bunch of adhesive that introduces a lot of moisture to the floor. I have had seams show that I've patched, but never a seam show that I just sanded smooth, if it needed it. Also, for small areas, a clever installer can place underlayment seams under vinyl grout lines.
Also....The advantage to using spray adhesive is, (for felt back products) you are introducing no moisture to the wood underlayment. Also, there is no chance of foot and knees print indentation in the wet glue as well as he fact that spray adhesive dries pretty mush instantly, so you can put back appliances and table and chairs right away. When your done, the floor is ready to be used. With all the new fiber floors with roller applied pressure sensitive adhesive, its a non issue
@ShowMeTheFloor I use Ardex, if the seams are smooth and tight, no need to patch. As far as lining them up, if I'm doing a bathroom, I'll cut the vinyl in first, then pull it out and use it as a template for the underlayment. I'll put the underlayment seams under grout lines and trace the vinyl with a pencil. The underlayment fits perfect with out ever even measuring it. Especially if the tub has a contour. You can do a bathroom in literally minutes this way. No measuring or patch.
@anorangegrape3 - He probably left the baseboard up because there is a slight gap between the baseboard and the floor; you use a piece of quarter round to cover up the gap ;)
it is helpfull for weekend warriors bur professional way of looking at your way of doing it; 2 things : you don't have the proper knife , secondly the way you rolled backed the lino for glue was risky as you see you had trouble to roll it back you needed help ,seems like it was not even 10' instead of rolling it you can easly fold the lino in half way of the width of the size of your lino this way also you can prevent the shifting of lino , but still informative for self doers and amateurs.
Thankyou! Now I actually have the courage to try and do the vinyl in my dining room My question, is it going to do any different with the subfloors being that particle board crap??? Please let me know asap!!!
@dragonbabyx3 Are you putting down luan? If it is a cheap particle board you might want to put
Some liquid nail under the luan. You can also go with a fiber floor which just basically has to be cut in. Fiber floor is generally more expensive than felt backed vinyl but you can save a lot in prep. As long as there is minimal seams it is a good way to go just leave about a quarter inch space around all the baseboards and it will lay flat.
@ShowMeTheFloor How can I tell if it is Luan? They guys at the flooring store told me to just nail it down by the baseboards, that it was free floating? but i am not comfortable with that, I have the glue to use... I am just nervous about doing this my first time. I know the vinyl is thick!
There are two ways to make a seam , one is to overlap the pattern and then cut thru
Both pieces, you might want to tape the pieces together if you want to "dry cut" the seam, or you can glue the area together then cut thru both pieces.. The other way is to use a straight edge and cut a straight line on each sheet and butt them together .
It is always best to cut on the grout line or in your case between the wood strips. Also always make sure to use seam sealer after.
We're in the middle of remodeling our house and can't afford hard wood floors right now. So we decided to do sheet vinyl that looks like wood floors. Can you tell me the best way to match the ends up so that everything looks seamless? Thanks!
Seems pretty simple to me. I like your board wrapped in carpet. Too bad we didn't think of that when we put down our floors a couple years ago. The roller was fine but I can see easily that the board might actually do a better job. bored
Wow! That's a lot of glue! I have used spray glue only and it's fine, it's actually better to spray, cause if you want to remove the linoleum you have with a different pattern, it's easier to remove it.
If your customers only knew the quality of installation they could have. You’re riding a fine line. Do they ever notice a “backbone” or glue line? How many knives are in your tool box? What is the proper nailing sequence for a sub-floor? Is your sub-floor flooring Grade?
there is more to flooring than cutting around the edges.
nice neat job! I've got a vynil/linoleum floor to lay on a chipboard floor. the guy at the shop gave me a Bostik product but couldn't give me the correct spatula. he says that it should have teeth. the directions say use spatula 1 or spatula 2 whatever that means. your one is a flat edge. the glue has to dry for 15 minutes before laying. You think a flat one would work?really enjoyed your vid.
Great man you make it look easy and now I have a question for you as this is my first DIY vinyl attempt.
Do I really need to use this glue Ill tell you my reason as I live in Ireland and I know a guy that puts down vinyl for a living and he never uses glue plus is there a perfect assured technique for cutting as you did it really fast and it was hard for me to get an up close look at your cutting skill plus I'm taking the skirting boards off. ps Thanks for your video its very informative
I like to use a 18 inch float trowel to patch plywood seams. And only the best trowels and patch! (marshalltown and ardex) You'll NEVER see them, I dont like the way he patched.....I'd like to see them fight the goods in the house. So the amatuer could see what it takes to lay out vinyl...You hard surface guys know I'm talking about. A felt back 35 footer with fill and pattern match, joy! lol Don't forget the L shaped countertops, middle island and drothe main into the laundry closet! lol
if your installing residential vinyl always use double sided tape,its easier,and cheaper,you only need to glue down industrial or commercial vinyl,because its so tough..
Hooray! thanks for the tips,the floor turned out beautifully and was relatively easy considering all the cut outs on the floor, but your tips made so much sense it made it almost easy.
rdgiliad 1 week ago
@rdgiliad Great glad my vid helped!
ShowMeTheFloor 1 week ago
How did you secure the rug to the 2x4?, I'm doing a floor tomorrow mornin
and I need to make two of them for the job....a quick reply would be greatly
appreciated:!)
rdgiliad 1 week ago
@rdgiliad I used an electric tacker but you can probably glue it to the 2x4
ShowMeTheFloor 1 week ago
@ShowMeTheFloor Awesome, thank you for the quick reply, I figured glue would work, electric tacker is a good quick one, just what I needed! ty:)
rdgiliad 1 week ago
vinyl is disgusting
fl3162 4 weeks ago
The 2x4 wrapped with a piece of carpet is a great idea. You saved me a couple of bucks on a roller. Thanks.
MrvlousMrco 1 month ago
It's a real different way they install vinyl where this guy is from. I would love to work where he is as i would never get paid for that work here in NZ. 1/4 round to hide the cutting in? Why not just take more care.
If you can get away with it i say good luck :)
burkinators 1 month ago
@burkinators You HAVE to put moulding up around vinyl otherwise it
will eventually curl. You don't put it up to hide your edges. Also your
1/4 round will lay nice and flat if you cut your vinyl a little short around the perimeter
Of the room.
ShowMeTheFloor 1 month ago
@ShowMeTheFloor Thx for reply. Over here if we fitted a 1/4 round we would not get paid. Have had layers from European countries come over and silicone their edges which customers did not accept. Our prep inculdes ardex feather finish coat to entire floor right to the edges and we have to cut vinyl exact to edges. Do not have any problem with edges lifting. Are not having a go at you, just pointing out different ways of laying. Wish we did like you as would be far easier.
Cheers :)
burkinators 1 month ago
wow you made it look easy!
london1817 3 months ago
I'm a 21 year installer. My thoughts:
Do not patch the underlayment seams unless you have gaps. Underlayment seam "show though" is almost always the patch cracking and pushing up when the underlayment swells from spreading a bunch of adhesive that introduces a lot of moisture to the floor. I have had seams show that I've patched, but never a seam show that I just sanded smooth, if it needed it. Also, for small areas, a clever installer can place underlayment seams under vinyl grout lines.
MrDarinWarren 3 months ago
@MrDarinWarren
Also....The advantage to using spray adhesive is, (for felt back products) you are introducing no moisture to the wood underlayment. Also, there is no chance of foot and knees print indentation in the wet glue as well as he fact that spray adhesive dries pretty mush instantly, so you can put back appliances and table and chairs right away. When your done, the floor is ready to be used. With all the new fiber floors with roller applied pressure sensitive adhesive, its a non issue
MrDarinWarren 3 months ago
@MrDarinWarren Never heard of lining up grout lines. What if if the floor has no grout lines? Also using a
latex based patch like Ardex you never have to worry about cracking. After patching the seams I sand over them.
ShowMeTheFloor 3 months ago
@ShowMeTheFloor I use Ardex, if the seams are smooth and tight, no need to patch. As far as lining them up, if I'm doing a bathroom, I'll cut the vinyl in first, then pull it out and use it as a template for the underlayment. I'll put the underlayment seams under grout lines and trace the vinyl with a pencil. The underlayment fits perfect with out ever even measuring it. Especially if the tub has a contour. You can do a bathroom in literally minutes this way. No measuring or patch.
MrDarinWarren 3 months ago
IIsn't there typically a setup time for the glue.
spenceresidential 3 months ago
Very helpful. Thanks! Nice work.
billman2112 5 months ago
@anorangegrape3 - He probably left the baseboard up because there is a slight gap between the baseboard and the floor; you use a piece of quarter round to cover up the gap ;)
teriwarren 5 months ago
it is helpfull for weekend warriors bur professional way of looking at your way of doing it; 2 things : you don't have the proper knife , secondly the way you rolled backed the lino for glue was risky as you see you had trouble to roll it back you needed help ,seems like it was not even 10' instead of rolling it you can easly fold the lino in half way of the width of the size of your lino this way also you can prevent the shifting of lino , but still informative for self doers and amateurs.
bluecollarbrothers 6 months ago
wow lucky guy
meme1039 6 months ago
Thankyou! Now I actually have the courage to try and do the vinyl in my dining room My question, is it going to do any different with the subfloors being that particle board crap??? Please let me know asap!!!
dragonbabyx3 6 months ago
@dragonbabyx3 Are you putting down luan? If it is a cheap particle board you might want to put
Some liquid nail under the luan. You can also go with a fiber floor which just basically has to be cut in. Fiber floor is generally more expensive than felt backed vinyl but you can save a lot in prep. As long as there is minimal seams it is a good way to go just leave about a quarter inch space around all the baseboards and it will lay flat.
ShowMeTheFloor 6 months ago
@ShowMeTheFloor How can I tell if it is Luan? They guys at the flooring store told me to just nail it down by the baseboards, that it was free floating? but i am not comfortable with that, I have the glue to use... I am just nervous about doing this my first time. I know the vinyl is thick!
dragonbabyx3 6 months ago
Great video, i learnt alot, now to do it
simonbuenosaires 7 months ago
left the baseboard up
anorangegrape3 7 months ago
There are two ways to make a seam , one is to overlap the pattern and then cut thru
Both pieces, you might want to tape the pieces together if you want to "dry cut" the seam, or you can glue the area together then cut thru both pieces.. The other way is to use a straight edge and cut a straight line on each sheet and butt them together .
It is always best to cut on the grout line or in your case between the wood strips. Also always make sure to use seam sealer after.
ShowMeTheFloor 7 months ago
We're in the middle of remodeling our house and can't afford hard wood floors right now. So we decided to do sheet vinyl that looks like wood floors. Can you tell me the best way to match the ends up so that everything looks seamless? Thanks!
SheilaBeela87 7 months ago
he left the baseboard up.
anorangegrape2 7 months ago
lmao oops bored ment nothing :)
sarafina022 7 months ago
Seems pretty simple to me. I like your board wrapped in carpet. Too bad we didn't think of that when we put down our floors a couple years ago. The roller was fine but I can see easily that the board might actually do a better job. bored
sarafina022 7 months ago
@sarafina022 If you don't step on the vinyl after it is glued you can control the bubbles pretty well with
a wrapped two by four. We call it the "rub out stick"
ShowMeTheFloor 7 months ago
Wow! That's a lot of glue! I have used spray glue only and it's fine, it's actually better to spray, cause if you want to remove the linoleum you have with a different pattern, it's easier to remove it.
Papiprah 7 months ago
@Papiprah Haven't tried spray glue yet but would like to sometime!
ShowMeTheFloor 7 months ago
I dont understand why you needed to do full stick down?
matywaldy 7 months ago
If your customers only knew the quality of installation they could have. You’re riding a fine line. Do they ever notice a “backbone” or glue line? How many knives are in your tool box? What is the proper nailing sequence for a sub-floor? Is your sub-floor flooring Grade?
there is more to flooring than cutting around the edges.
Qualifiedinstaller 7 months ago
@Qualifiedinstaller a nail for every thre inches of hardboard,or a staple
matywaldy 7 months ago
Great video, just what I wanted to find out, cheers.
xxxScollxxx 7 months ago
thanks for great video l learn lots
flywithtrance 8 months ago
great video pal
Normpercy 10 months ago
nice neat job! I've got a vynil/linoleum floor to lay on a chipboard floor. the guy at the shop gave me a Bostik product but couldn't give me the correct spatula. he says that it should have teeth. the directions say use spatula 1 or spatula 2 whatever that means. your one is a flat edge. the glue has to dry for 15 minutes before laying. You think a flat one would work?really enjoyed your vid.
davekennedy52 11 months ago
@davekennedy52 you dont need glue,lose lay it and use a little contact adhesive
matywaldy 7 months ago
Great man you make it look easy and now I have a question for you as this is my first DIY vinyl attempt.
Do I really need to use this glue Ill tell you my reason as I live in Ireland and I know a guy that puts down vinyl for a living and he never uses glue plus is there a perfect assured technique for cutting as you did it really fast and it was hard for me to get an up close look at your cutting skill plus I'm taking the skirting boards off. ps Thanks for your video its very informative
dfstarborn 11 months ago
You got that right! This kitchen was a breeze! Pattern matches,middle islands etc. can cause major headaches, lol!
ShowMeTheFloor 1 year ago
I like to use a 18 inch float trowel to patch plywood seams. And only the best trowels and patch! (marshalltown and ardex) You'll NEVER see them, I dont like the way he patched.....I'd like to see them fight the goods in the house. So the amatuer could see what it takes to lay out vinyl...You hard surface guys know I'm talking about. A felt back 35 footer with fill and pattern match, joy! lol Don't forget the L shaped countertops, middle island and drothe main into the laundry closet! lol
kalomark 1 year ago
@MrsAlSubaihi of course it can
floorlay 1 year ago
if your installing residential vinyl always use double sided tape,its easier,and cheaper,you only need to glue down industrial or commercial vinyl,because its so tough..
floorlay 1 year ago
GREAT video! I definitely would have learned it the hard way if wasn't for this video.
hardcoremofo 1 year ago
Yes it can for a temporary installation, but a full spread makes patching easier
ShowMeTheFloor 1 year ago
I've been looking a lot but I finally found a vid that shows how to cut the actualy vinyl on the edges. thanks bro!
VCthaGOATdunker 1 year ago