onision stop trying to try and make shallow or unrelated arguments just so u can continue eating eggs, cheese and milk while still acting like u care about animals
the level of animal abuse is the same, and i dont see anything wrong with humans keeping animals as livestock
oh by the way eggs are made up of animal cells and its amazing that u say u hate the smell of meat yet u dont mind the smell of eggs
Yeah you arent eatting an animal, but your buying eggs that cost a life of jail, for the gen of course, the gen (or hen i dont know, my english is bad, sorry) looses her feathers because of stress, and their are battered and their life expectancy is reaaaaally low, you should watch from farm to fridge :3
Eat lots of FRUIT and some veggies Problem solved Bananas, Dates, Mangos, Papayas, Potatoes, Grapes, Rice and much more! These are High in Good Carbs/Energy, Suger in Fiber/Sponge the fiber mantaians the suger, and Pure water. Make sure to Eat Enouph Fruits NOT Eating Enouph is the PROBLEM with these people that Switch their LifeStyle to Plant Base and go back to Eating Animal Products and High Fat foods that slow you down! Quick Example 10 bananas = 1200+ calories= Easy Meal!
You're an idiot. Vegetarians aren't vegans. If he were claiming to be vegan then yes he would be "in denial". The animals aren't being slaughtered, but instead giving us food for large amounts of time, instead of being injected with crap and then cut up after living a short caged up life.
.My mom freaked out for who knows what reson the other day, while I was cooking eggs, and she said "So you won't eat a chicken, but you'll eat its babies?!?!" totally serious. She couldn't understand why I was laughing so damn hard.
Hens are killed when their egg-production decreases. All male chicks are killed a day or two after birth. Vegans do not consider animals commodities. Using them as food means they are a commodity .i.e something to be used like an object for a purpose. Animals have their own needs and desires. They're not 'here' to serve us or to be our slaves.
@IWasBornStupid abortion is the aborting of a 'fertalised' human egg. chicken eggs, layed without a rooster, are like female periods, and are not fertilised. therefor, you cant relate them to abortion,
abortion= the artificial removal or a fertilised human embryo
chicken eggs= the natural abortion of unfertilised chicken ovum(ovum?) that has abosulutyely no one inside, its like eating a blood cell or a skin flake or something just as useless. :D yes
Ma'am, actually. And if you did watch the video, you would hear him explain that it is NOT a potential chicken, because the egg is unfertilized. Therefore, the hen could sit on it all she wanted, but because there are no roosters around, that egg is never, ever going to become a chicken. Are you confused about the meaning of the world 'potential'?
@swimmer24100 Why do chickens lay eggs? To reproduce. If the hen didn't have an urge to reproduce, there'd be no eggs. So every egg a hen lays either had or has the potential to be a baby chicken.
A hen will periodically lay eggs no matter what. An unfertilized egg neither had nor has the potential to be a baby chicken. In all chordates, it takes two to make a baby. Calling him a hypocrite for eating unfertilized eggs is like calling him a hypocrite for using a condom, because he's killing sperm. Both human sperm and chicken eggs have the potential to make a baby, but without the other half of the equation, they do not have the potential to BE a baby.
@swimmer24100 A hen will periodically lay eggs in the hopes of getting a chick no matter what.
Regardless, it's still an animal product, and if you look at the egg industry you'll see chickens being trapped in cages and forced to just sit and lay eggs all day. Didn't realize that was something someone who supposedly loves animals could get behind.
Once the egg has been lain (layed?), the time has come and gone for it to be fertilized. I realize it's an animal product, just like dairy milk. That's why I don't claim to be a vegan, and because of the miserable conditions at factory farms, I said, and I quote from my earlier comment "I hope to one day go vegan". Right now I'm in high school and I workout over 2 hours a day, so I'm not in a place where veganism is really possible...
...But I am by no means "behind" eating animal byproducts. I was just pointing outyour error in calling vegetarians who eat eggs hypocrites. If someone claimed to be a vegan and ate eggs, they would be hypocrite, because an egg is an animal byproduct. But because an unfertilized egg does not contain a chicken or chicken fetus, a VEGETARIAN is not a hypocrite for eating eggs. They don't claim to abstain from animal byproducts. Again, I am a supporter of veganism and aspire to it.
@swimmer24100 But eating animal byproducts still hurt the animals. Have you seen a chicken coop? I mean, if you're going to be a vegetarian for moral reasons, you may as well go all the way.
I'm sorry, did you read my comments? I'm in high school, and at this point in my life, veganism isn't really an option. I limit my dairy/ egg intake significantly; I am not fully vegan but I plan to be following high school, maybe college.
"You may as well go all the way."
Veganism is a pretty hefty commitment. It isn't just something you just "might as well do." Again, I'm making an effort. I'm not blind to what goes on at dairy farms/ hatcheries.
@TheOtherHolly OMG! Are you also here? Ahahahahahahah! Hens produce eggs, and chickens can not be born from these eggs, since they're unfertilized. Chickens can only be born from eggs fertilized by the rooster. I repeat: before writing, at least inform yourself.
@TheOtherHolly Ad hominem... Hypocrite! Ahahahahah! When did I prove myself to be a complete moron? Am I the one who wrote that a chicken could be born from every egg a hen produces? Po caridadi...
@FutureLegendDiva Naah, just not bothering with people who won't listen to reason.
You proved yourself to be a complete moron when you gave me biased sources and then acted like I was supposed to eat them up and just threw a bunch of name-calling at me when I didn't. That's how morons argue.
@TheOtherHolly Ahah! And what are you doing now? You called me a moron because I told you that you were wrong! And, as I already told you, I didn't "throw you a bunch of name calling" (LOL), after but before you told me they were biased (of course you won't find something about benefits of vegetarian diet in sites against vegetarianism, don't you think?), because you told me to send you links and I had just sent you some!
THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THIS UP. So many people make this mistake and try to say that "technically" eggs aren't vegetarian. I am a vegetarian, and I hate it when people try to tell me that eggs don't fit into a vegetarian diet. I hope to one day go vegan, but for now, i can eat eggs.
Don't worry... you're not being rude! I used to wonder why people went vegan, until I saw footage of what goes on at dairy farms and hatcheries. It was the documentary Earthlings that really changed my mind. It seems that for Onision, it's really about the killing of animals. That's not what it's about for me. I recognize that we are omnivores, and I would probably be okay with eating animals if not for the existence of factory farming...
.... Animals suffer unimaginably in factory farms, whether they're being raised for slaughter or for their byproducts. So for me, being a vegetarian is more about not funding factory farming than it is about not funding the killing of animals for food. I guess I was never a huge fan of killing animals for any reason, but I'm even more opposed to the idea that animals are suffering miserably their entire lives. Does that answer your question?
So... He doesn't like to eat meat, yet he can come to eating a Hens Egg. This is basically a chicken fetus. Would you eat a human fetus Oni? There's no difference basically. Each in a protective "shell", each potential to life. You just continue eating them unborn chickens bro and be a hypocrite ;)
@ILoveBeingANerd1234 There's further video(s) where he talks about others and himself eating eggs from farms. I did my research on him before making my comment, and I know enough about farms. I grew up on one. Thanks for the insight though.
@jaaronhart Do animals die in transport to slaughter? Yes, unfortunately, but according to the industry, it's typically less that 1% [excludes poultry].
And no, they don't process animals that arrive dead. lol
Such a notion that they do is ridiculous. Depending on the temps, the meat would rot within hours. There's no friggin way they could process dead animals with concern for the quality of the meat, and yes, that would be illegal.
@ipokedeadthings But Onision chose to own a cat. Owning a cat is not necessary to his survival, but meat is necessary to the cat's survival. Therefore, he chooses to be a consumer of "dead animal products" because of his choice to own a cat.
He's got just as much of a choice in the matter as any non-veg has in choosing to eat meat directly.
@ipokedeadthings For example, in many of Onision's videos, you can see that he owns a cat. Either he feeds that cat a very unhealthy [inhumane!] diet or he feeds it "dead animals" in the form of your average cat food.
So he's either treating an animal inhumanely [studies have proven that cats cannot live on purely vegetarian diets w/o at least some meat supplement] or he's a consumer of "dead animals" and is funding the deaths of more animals by continuing to own a cat. Thus a hypocrite!
@ipokedeadthings I'm not opposed to the consumption of animal products, as long as the animals are killed humanely/the "product" is taken humanely. Whether it be a factory farm or family farm.
I just get sick of the holier than thou approach that many vegetarians/vegans [like Onision] take when they have such strong opinions but don't even go all the way themselves.
@ipokedeadthings What I'm trying to say actually, is why is it more inhumane to eat meat than a chicken egg? Contrary to what the videos from PETA that "expose" slaughterhouses, 99% of animals are killed perfectly humanely, either killed or unconscious within 5 seconds. The only criticism that I could sort of understand from a vegan/vegetarian is that animals are kept inhumanely.
So eating a chicken's egg wouldn't be inhumane to the egg, it'd be inhumane to the chicken it came from.
@Alf90100 99% ? No link. That is complete BS. Most animals killed for their fur are in Asian countries and are killed inhumaly. Skinned alive. A snake will live for days after its skinned. Animals have their throat slit alive etc. Companies even said that 30% of the animals that arrive at the slaughterhouse are dead. America still says that theyre ok to eat though.
@jaaronhart A. I was referring to slaughter houses in the industrialized world, not 3rd world asian markets. Not that what you said is true though...
B. That's not true. Let me guess you got it from a PETA or HSUS video? News flash - they're crazy extremists who lie to get their point across.
That doesn't even make economic sense. Why would a meat producer allow a large percentage of their product to arrive dead, reducing the quality of their product? Cite a source.
@jaaronhart I don't need to post a link, look up the laws regulating slaughterhouses, as enforced by the USDA. It's almost impossible for the animals to not die/go unconscious instantly in their facilities, it's also very rare for the animals to arrive dead. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to find real statistics online, because the AR groups muck up the search results with their lies and repeating showings of the same extreme videos.
@jaaronhart Can you actually site a valid source claiming that 30% of animals arrive dead?
All of the sources you'll be able to pull off of google are just animal rights group lies. The federal government enforces regulations to insure that all animals are killed humanely [how well? idk], many slaughterhouses are also open to the public. Maybe you could tour one and see?
@Alf90100 Ok I did the researching. THE USDA OPPOSES THE HUMANE SLAUGHTERING ACT OF 1959. Making animals unconscious lowers the profits of the company. USDA ignores the law . I would post better links but they have to many dots and stuff. Do some googling and you will see the the USDA does not enforce the law. My source for the 30% was the Documentry Meet your meat. Dont like it? Post proof its wrong.
@jaaronhart That's not the only law that regulates slaughterhouses by a long shot. slaughterhouses are still viable targets of MANY animal cruelty regulations and the industry is heavily regulated. All The Humane Slaughter Act of 1958 did was attempt to force slaughterhouses to stun animals unconscious before they're slaughtered. Not doing so doesn't necessarily put them through any more stress/sufferage than stunning them.
@Alf90100 Plz post more laws regulating it I cant seem to find any. They only regulate the quality of the meat. Even then it likely the theres bits of bugs in your meat when you eat it.
@jaaronhart I don't seem to be able to post links, but in the U.S. meat packing plants are regulated by the FDA and USDA to insure the proper slaughter, handling and feeding of the animals as well as the quality of the meat. For example, you have to be licensed in the U.S. to operate a slaughterhouse by the USDA to insure that the quality of the facility is acceptable for the efficient, humane slaughter of the animals, state laws may also apply. Check USDA.gov.
@jaaronhart You can't trust anything that PETA says. Period. Meet your meat is pure BS propaganda, seriously, look deeper into the videos, you can tell that many are at least 2-3 decades old.
If the meat packing industry is too worried about profits to stun the animals in the line before outright killing them, why would they tolerate a sizable portion of 30% coming in dead? That makes no sense. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
@Alf90100 dude the meat companies tolerate the 30% beacause the slaughterhouses will still sluaghter it and sell it. Get that through your head. They can still legally sell it. Why waste money to prevent 3/10 animals alive when the meat is legally still good and edible.
@Alf90100 My source is Meet your Meat. They allow it because theres nothing stopping them. The American government says its ok to eat. The slaughterhouse doesnt care they just kill it.
They'll tell you anything to get you to go vegan and they'll show you the same video clips of "slaughterhouse cruelty" over and over to illicit an emotional response.
You really think that they don't want all of their animals to come in alive and to kill them all quickly? It's about money if nothing else.
Reputable slaughterhouses are very humane, 99% of animals come in alive and 99% are killed humanely in under 5 seconds.
A HEN LAYING AN EGG IS BASICALLY A WOMAN HAVING HER PERIOD WITHOUT THE BLOOD! The egg has to be fertilized otherwise it is not life. Without the rooster's sperm to fertilize the egg, the egg is expelled, just like the egg in a woman's uterus is expelled DURING HER PERIOD.
So when guys jack off or have sex with condoms, and a woman has her period, us humans are on a killing rampage then right?
So the logic of "you shouldn't eat eggs" is flawed.
Always such a fucking hypocrite Onision. Horribly wrong to kill an animal to eat it, but perfectly acceptable to keep animals around, breeding them into flawed [domesticated] existances just to reap the benefits of their captive lives. I fail to see how that is any more humane then breeding them to be killed outright.
WAIT! If you truly love animals as much as you say, you wouldn't eat eggs either! Why would you want those chickens to only be alive so that they can squeeze out eggs, and then most likely be killed for not being able to produce anymore eggs? Think, dude...
Eeeerrrm I seem to remember other videos of yours where you bleet on about how humans are not naturally suposed to eat meat. Due to the amount of protein in eggs they are classed as meat. You also go on about how we cant eat uncooked meat without getting ill yet you have to cook eggs if you want to avoid salmonella. Honestly you are just a massive hypocrite.
since its unfertilized its okay to eat if ur a vegan, but if u wan to go full vegan then i would not suggest to eat the UNfertilized eggs (AKA not alive eggs or never were to begin with because a sperm has not penitrated it to become a liveing thing)
What if the egg has been fertilized are you still just eating an egg? I have eaten a fertilized egg, therefore I have eaten rooster cum. hahahahahaha!
@1329PresscottStreet i was just joking around cuz my room mate is British and he was watching me type. i don't have anything against your country at all. in fact most of the the music i listen too(rock/metal) comes from you're neck of the woods. That comment was completely unnecessary of me and i am truly sorry if i offended you.
i dont know if this has to do with your diet but dude you look really pale and unhealthy looking. go tan or something you look like an a brit and no one wants to look like those ugly people
Nice job. I did the research more thoroughly and you were correct. But its based mostly on genetics. Ah hell its a damn egg, they're good, lets leave it at that. ;p
Brown eggs are new chickens and white ones are unfertilized. Meaning that the white ones are not going to develop into anything. Its an egg. I personally love eggs.
@Madd3n117 Brown eggs come from darker feathered hens and white or very light colored hens lay white eggs. The color of the egg shell has nothing to do them being fertilized or not:) And Araconas lay green/blue tinted eggs. Natural Easter eggs!
@martenfisher1 Buy them from an actual farm then. It shouldn't be too hard to find an actual farm that sells them. Try a Mennonite community. and the correct spelling is hypocrite
@ArielDarkBlade69 We don't have farms here. Atleast not real producing fams. I wish I was back home where there are good farmers like menonites. Last time I was up I bought chickens from them because I hate factory farmed meats going in my gut. If we had them here I would buy eggs every week.
What's your point Onision, I already knew that and this is actualy encouraging me to lay eggs xD Ehm I mean eat them xD Ok ok, that was totally intended.
this was the first video i ever saw about you, years ago it popped up on my youtube front page and i clicked it :3. because of you, i haven't eaten meat in 2 years. thank you for everything
So would you eat an egg? It's never gonna become life. It simply isn't. You're not harming another creature. Also, could someone explain veganism to me? Why would you not drink milk and stuff like that?
@MrKli4d Veganisms is a way mroe extreme side of vegetarianism. vegetarianism focuses on not eating anything that was one or would of once been a life, thats it. Veganism focuses on anything that comes from animals, including dairy. Why, im nto sure, maybe they fele it hurts the animal in some way, because i heard in order for cows to produce milk they must be constantly pregnant.
@SSJEve not constantly. the milk will last for about 300 days or so so they'd get pregnant about once a year which is fairly normal in the animal world. It also hurts them not being milked
@CodeMonkeyWithACanon you're right in a way but its better to care for it as a pet and eat their eggs than buy them from the store, like i wouldent consider a dog to be a slave
Maybe..MAYBE! The hen went next door and then got knocked up by a squirrel or went to the rooster sperm bank! And THEN once it layed eggs the hens started having orgys so then they layed more eggs and THEN thoes hens have more orgy's and more and more hens are being born into a life of organisms and laying eggs without a rooster. THINK ABOUT THAT ONISION!!!!!
(For thoes of you who don't know this was a joke) =)
@iarekaty - I bet you feel really good right now, don't you? LOL I bet you feel superior to someone who asked you very basic questions that you COULD answer. (Er.. I hope.) What I find amusing is that you missed his deeper point... xD Only to get technical and be all "o u think u smrt, *I* SMART i new dat alrdy! PSHHH u stuped i kill u an make u ded."
Thanks for saying that onision (or should I call you greg)
TheZ811 2 weeks ago in playlist Animal Rights
@TheOtherHolly
there is something called ovo-vegeterian.
ovo means egg
and eggs come out unfertilized. if you didn´t know. because apperently you dont.
insideimmortal 1 month ago
onision stop trying to try and make shallow or unrelated arguments just so u can continue eating eggs, cheese and milk while still acting like u care about animals
the level of animal abuse is the same, and i dont see anything wrong with humans keeping animals as livestock
oh by the way eggs are made up of animal cells and its amazing that u say u hate the smell of meat yet u dont mind the smell of eggs
kilkolio 1 month ago
Yeah you arent eatting an animal, but your buying eggs that cost a life of jail, for the gen of course, the gen (or hen i dont know, my english is bad, sorry) looses her feathers because of stress, and their are battered and their life expectancy is reaaaaally low, you should watch from farm to fridge :3
sxssrz 1 month ago in playlist Animal Rights
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Eat lots of FRUIT and some veggies Problem solved Bananas, Dates, Mangos, Papayas, Potatoes, Grapes, Rice and much more! These are High in Good Carbs/Energy, Suger in Fiber/Sponge the fiber mantaians the suger, and Pure water. Make sure to Eat Enouph Fruits NOT Eating Enouph is the PROBLEM with these people that Switch their LifeStyle to Plant Base and go back to Eating Animal Products and High Fat foods that slow you down! Quick Example 10 bananas = 1200+ calories= Easy Meal!
Visualize630 1 month ago
Vegetarian eating dairy products and eggs are called lacto-ovo vegetarians.
zaxtor 1 month ago
@zaxtor
vegetarians that eat dairy and egg are meat eaters in denial
onision come out of the closet and stop being a demented little fag
kilkolio 1 month ago
@kilkolio Vegetarian eating dairy products are called Lacto-vegetarian.
Eggs and dairy vegetarian are called lacto-ovo vegetarian.
Vegetarian eating fish are pescetarianism.
Well I don't eat fish because of 2 reasons.
1 has mercury.
2 lost my interest in eating it since decade ago.
I droped meats, chicken(meat) and fish.
Dropping dairy in where I live is impossible.
I can't post links about it even with space because youtube does this BS of %%%%#% crap in your link when you post on address bar
zaxtor 1 month ago
@kilkolio P2. Onision isn't gay. And there is nothing wrong with gay.
I'm straight but for equal rights.
I'm vehemently against rapists, pedophiles and people that does incest.
To me rapists are worst than murders and they're good for.
1. death penalty.
2, human experimentation instead of innocent animals.
zaxtor 1 month ago
@kilkolio
You're an idiot. Vegetarians aren't vegans. If he were claiming to be vegan then yes he would be "in denial". The animals aren't being slaughtered, but instead giving us food for large amounts of time, instead of being injected with crap and then cut up after living a short caged up life.
abbyxxoo 1 month ago in playlist Animal Rights
you look like dexter here... the one from the tv show... who kills people... not in a bad way hes attractive:)
ps. you should reply if you know what I'm talking about because I sware to god you look just like him in this video.
OPIobsession 1 month ago
what abot milk ?
MrBurnTec 2 months ago in playlist Animal Rights
@marinegirlist yeah just entertain us u druggie clown thats what ur here for
kilkolio 2 months ago
that u bought only hens means that the seller hadto kill a bunch of roosters
funnyfurtuson 2 months ago
ur a vegan that eats eggs
everything u said about animal cruelty and murder just went out the window
kilkolio 3 months ago
@kilkolio He's not "VEGAN" he's a "VEGETARIAN" vegetarians eat everything except MEAT that includes eggs, milk etc...
BGboy02 2 months ago
greg + chicken Awwwwwwwwwwwww :3 its adorable and eggs are yummehh ;D <3
ABI11295 5 months ago 2
.My mom freaked out for who knows what reson the other day, while I was cooking eggs, and she said "So you won't eat a chicken, but you'll eat its babies?!?!" totally serious. She couldn't understand why I was laughing so damn hard.
WeAteTheChildren 6 months ago
Do vegans eat eggs? I always thought they didn't eat anything from an animal...
If they don't eat eggs, why don't they? Like Greg said, it's not a baby...and a chicken will lay it anyway, so why not eat it?
LeaAnne94 6 months ago
@LeaAnne94
Have you ever seen a battery hen farm?
Hens are killed when their egg-production decreases. All male chicks are killed a day or two after birth. Vegans do not consider animals commodities. Using them as food means they are a commodity .i.e something to be used like an object for a purpose. Animals have their own needs and desires. They're not 'here' to serve us or to be our slaves.
marcluc1988 6 months ago
@marcluc1988 No, I understand that, but I mean if you have chickens at your home...(and don't hurt them), why not eat the eggs?
LeaAnne94 6 months ago
thats a lmfao
meowmeowicecream 6 months ago
"About chickens and the slaughter of their... unborn babies?"
And you're for abortion? Change that up a bit Onision.
"About humans and the slaughter of their... unborn babies?"
Yes, you are in fact, a hypocrite.
IWasBornStupid 6 months ago
@IWasBornStupid abortion is the aborting of a 'fertalised' human egg. chicken eggs, layed without a rooster, are like female periods, and are not fertilised. therefor, you cant relate them to abortion,
abortion= the artificial removal or a fertilised human embryo
chicken eggs= the natural abortion of unfertilised chicken ovum(ovum?) that has abosulutyely no one inside, its like eating a blood cell or a skin flake or something just as useless. :D yes
SenBonZAkuraPWNS 6 months ago
Do most people not know this? O.O
I had chickens ever since I was little so I don't no if this is a common misconception...
mayaDUDE998 6 months ago
@mayaDUDE998 it is
TheLaisama 6 months ago
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But it's a POTENTIAL chicken.
Hypocriite!
TheOtherHolly 7 months ago
@TheOtherHolly
You clearly didn't watch the video.
swimmer24100 6 months ago
@swimmer24100 'Cept I did.
You fail, sir.
TheOtherHolly 6 months ago
@TheOtherHolly
Ma'am, actually. And if you did watch the video, you would hear him explain that it is NOT a potential chicken, because the egg is unfertilized. Therefore, the hen could sit on it all she wanted, but because there are no roosters around, that egg is never, ever going to become a chicken. Are you confused about the meaning of the world 'potential'?
swimmer24100 6 months ago
@swimmer24100 Why do chickens lay eggs? To reproduce. If the hen didn't have an urge to reproduce, there'd be no eggs. So every egg a hen lays either had or has the potential to be a baby chicken.
Good day sir.
TheOtherHolly 6 months ago
@TheOtherHolly
A hen will periodically lay eggs no matter what. An unfertilized egg neither had nor has the potential to be a baby chicken. In all chordates, it takes two to make a baby. Calling him a hypocrite for eating unfertilized eggs is like calling him a hypocrite for using a condom, because he's killing sperm. Both human sperm and chicken eggs have the potential to make a baby, but without the other half of the equation, they do not have the potential to BE a baby.
swimmer24100 6 months ago
@swimmer24100 A hen will periodically lay eggs in the hopes of getting a chick no matter what.
Regardless, it's still an animal product, and if you look at the egg industry you'll see chickens being trapped in cages and forced to just sit and lay eggs all day. Didn't realize that was something someone who supposedly loves animals could get behind.
TheOtherHolly 6 months ago
@TheOtherHolly
Once the egg has been lain (layed?), the time has come and gone for it to be fertilized. I realize it's an animal product, just like dairy milk. That's why I don't claim to be a vegan, and because of the miserable conditions at factory farms, I said, and I quote from my earlier comment "I hope to one day go vegan". Right now I'm in high school and I workout over 2 hours a day, so I'm not in a place where veganism is really possible...
swimmer24100 6 months ago 9
@TheOtherHolly
...But I am by no means "behind" eating animal byproducts. I was just pointing outyour error in calling vegetarians who eat eggs hypocrites. If someone claimed to be a vegan and ate eggs, they would be hypocrite, because an egg is an animal byproduct. But because an unfertilized egg does not contain a chicken or chicken fetus, a VEGETARIAN is not a hypocrite for eating eggs. They don't claim to abstain from animal byproducts. Again, I am a supporter of veganism and aspire to it.
swimmer24100 6 months ago 13
@swimmer24100 But eating animal byproducts still hurt the animals. Have you seen a chicken coop? I mean, if you're going to be a vegetarian for moral reasons, you may as well go all the way.
TheOtherHolly 6 months ago
@TheOtherHolly
I'm sorry, did you read my comments? I'm in high school, and at this point in my life, veganism isn't really an option. I limit my dairy/ egg intake significantly; I am not fully vegan but I plan to be following high school, maybe college.
"You may as well go all the way."
Veganism is a pretty hefty commitment. It isn't just something you just "might as well do." Again, I'm making an effort. I'm not blind to what goes on at dairy farms/ hatcheries.
swimmer24100 6 months ago
@swimmer24100 Understandable. As long as you're that terrible things happen so you can get your eggs and milk, then I don't care.
TheOtherHolly 6 months ago
@TheOtherHolly
I'm assuming you're vegan, then, if you're saying all of this?
swimmer24100 6 months ago
@swimmer24100 Nope. I eat meat. :3
TheOtherHolly 6 months ago
@TheOtherHolly
Thank you for wasting my time.
swimmer24100 6 months ago 2
@swimmer24100 No problem!
The difference between me in you is that I don't have any moral problem with eating dead animals while you do.
TheOtherHolly 6 months ago
@TheOtherHolly OMG! Are you also here? Ahahahahahahah! Hens produce eggs, and chickens can not be born from these eggs, since they're unfertilized. Chickens can only be born from eggs fertilized by the rooster. I repeat: before writing, at least inform yourself.
FutureLegendDiva 6 months ago
@FutureLegendDiva You have already proven yourself to be a complete moron, so I am not going to engage with you in debate.
TheOtherHolly 6 months ago
@TheOtherHolly Ad hominem... Hypocrite! Ahahahahah! When did I prove myself to be a complete moron? Am I the one who wrote that a chicken could be born from every egg a hen produces? Po caridadi...
FutureLegendDiva 6 months ago
@FutureLegendDiva Naah, just not bothering with people who won't listen to reason.
You proved yourself to be a complete moron when you gave me biased sources and then acted like I was supposed to eat them up and just threw a bunch of name-calling at me when I didn't. That's how morons argue.
TheOtherHolly 6 months ago
@TheOtherHolly Ahah! And what are you doing now? You called me a moron because I told you that you were wrong! And, as I already told you, I didn't "throw you a bunch of name calling" (LOL), after but before you told me they were biased (of course you won't find something about benefits of vegetarian diet in sites against vegetarianism, don't you think?), because you told me to send you links and I had just sent you some!
FutureLegendDiva 6 months ago 2
THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THIS UP. So many people make this mistake and try to say that "technically" eggs aren't vegetarian. I am a vegetarian, and I hate it when people try to tell me that eggs don't fit into a vegetarian diet. I hope to one day go vegan, but for now, i can eat eggs.
swimmer24100 7 months ago
@swimmer24100 I hope I don't sound rude, but just out of curiosity, why do you hope to one day become vegan?
Nat4Brendan 6 months ago
@Nat4Brendan
Don't worry... you're not being rude! I used to wonder why people went vegan, until I saw footage of what goes on at dairy farms and hatcheries. It was the documentary Earthlings that really changed my mind. It seems that for Onision, it's really about the killing of animals. That's not what it's about for me. I recognize that we are omnivores, and I would probably be okay with eating animals if not for the existence of factory farming...
swimmer24100 6 months ago
@Nat4Brendan
.... Animals suffer unimaginably in factory farms, whether they're being raised for slaughter or for their byproducts. So for me, being a vegetarian is more about not funding factory farming than it is about not funding the killing of animals for food. I guess I was never a huge fan of killing animals for any reason, but I'm even more opposed to the idea that animals are suffering miserably their entire lives. Does that answer your question?
swimmer24100 6 months ago
@swimmer24100 Yes it does, quite thoroughly. xD Thanks for taking the time to answer.
Nat4Brendan 6 months ago
So... He doesn't like to eat meat, yet he can come to eating a Hens Egg. This is basically a chicken fetus. Would you eat a human fetus Oni? There's no difference basically. Each in a protective "shell", each potential to life. You just continue eating them unborn chickens bro and be a hypocrite ;)
m0r3f33n 7 months ago
@m0r3f33n
For 1: eggs dont have a fetus if they are not fertilized (so if there has been no rooster to make the egg fertile)
For 2: There is no baby chicken in there at all there has to be a rooster to fertilize the egg and make the baby grow,
For 3: Do some research....
ILoveBeingANerd1234 7 months ago
@ILoveBeingANerd1234 There's further video(s) where he talks about others and himself eating eggs from farms. I did my research on him before making my comment, and I know enough about farms. I grew up on one. Thanks for the insight though.
m0r3f33n 7 months ago
HOLY FUCK
He figured all of that out all by himself!
I'm so proud :D
ChrisGnosis 7 months ago
@jaaronhart Do animals die in transport to slaughter? Yes, unfortunately, but according to the industry, it's typically less that 1% [excludes poultry].
And no, they don't process animals that arrive dead. lol
Such a notion that they do is ridiculous. Depending on the temps, the meat would rot within hours. There's no friggin way they could process dead animals with concern for the quality of the meat, and yes, that would be illegal.
Alf90100 7 months ago
@ipokedeadthings But Onision chose to own a cat. Owning a cat is not necessary to his survival, but meat is necessary to the cat's survival. Therefore, he chooses to be a consumer of "dead animal products" because of his choice to own a cat.
He's got just as much of a choice in the matter as any non-veg has in choosing to eat meat directly.
Alf90100 7 months ago
@ipokedeadthings For example, in many of Onision's videos, you can see that he owns a cat. Either he feeds that cat a very unhealthy [inhumane!] diet or he feeds it "dead animals" in the form of your average cat food.
So he's either treating an animal inhumanely [studies have proven that cats cannot live on purely vegetarian diets w/o at least some meat supplement] or he's a consumer of "dead animals" and is funding the deaths of more animals by continuing to own a cat. Thus a hypocrite!
Alf90100 7 months ago
@ipokedeadthings I'm not opposed to the consumption of animal products, as long as the animals are killed humanely/the "product" is taken humanely. Whether it be a factory farm or family farm.
I just get sick of the holier than thou approach that many vegetarians/vegans [like Onision] take when they have such strong opinions but don't even go all the way themselves.
Alf90100 7 months ago
@ipokedeadthings What I'm trying to say actually, is why is it more inhumane to eat meat than a chicken egg? Contrary to what the videos from PETA that "expose" slaughterhouses, 99% of animals are killed perfectly humanely, either killed or unconscious within 5 seconds. The only criticism that I could sort of understand from a vegan/vegetarian is that animals are kept inhumanely.
So eating a chicken's egg wouldn't be inhumane to the egg, it'd be inhumane to the chicken it came from.
Alf90100 7 months ago
@Alf90100 99% ? No link. That is complete BS. Most animals killed for their fur are in Asian countries and are killed inhumaly. Skinned alive. A snake will live for days after its skinned. Animals have their throat slit alive etc. Companies even said that 30% of the animals that arrive at the slaughterhouse are dead. America still says that theyre ok to eat though.
jaaronhart 7 months ago
@jaaronhart A. I was referring to slaughter houses in the industrialized world, not 3rd world asian markets. Not that what you said is true though...
B. That's not true. Let me guess you got it from a PETA or HSUS video? News flash - they're crazy extremists who lie to get their point across.
That doesn't even make economic sense. Why would a meat producer allow a large percentage of their product to arrive dead, reducing the quality of their product? Cite a source.
Alf90100 7 months ago
@Alf90100 Still no link?
jaaronhart 7 months ago
@jaaronhart I don't need to post a link, look up the laws regulating slaughterhouses, as enforced by the USDA. It's almost impossible for the animals to not die/go unconscious instantly in their facilities, it's also very rare for the animals to arrive dead. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to find real statistics online, because the AR groups muck up the search results with their lies and repeating showings of the same extreme videos.
Alf90100 7 months ago
@Alf90100 Very rare. 3 out of every 10 animals isnt rare. Do you have a link on how well the USDA enforces its laws?
jaaronhart 7 months ago
@jaaronhart Can you actually site a valid source claiming that 30% of animals arrive dead?
All of the sources you'll be able to pull off of google are just animal rights group lies. The federal government enforces regulations to insure that all animals are killed humanely [how well? idk], many slaughterhouses are also open to the public. Maybe you could tour one and see?
Alf90100 7 months ago
@Alf90100 Ok I did the researching. THE USDA OPPOSES THE HUMANE SLAUGHTERING ACT OF 1959. Making animals unconscious lowers the profits of the company. USDA ignores the law . I would post better links but they have to many dots and stuff. Do some googling and you will see the the USDA does not enforce the law. My source for the 30% was the Documentry Meet your meat. Dont like it? Post proof its wrong.
en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Slaughterhouse#Law
jaaronhart 7 months ago
@jaaronhart That's not the only law that regulates slaughterhouses by a long shot. slaughterhouses are still viable targets of MANY animal cruelty regulations and the industry is heavily regulated. All The Humane Slaughter Act of 1958 did was attempt to force slaughterhouses to stun animals unconscious before they're slaughtered. Not doing so doesn't necessarily put them through any more stress/sufferage than stunning them.
Alf90100 7 months ago
@Alf90100 Plz post more laws regulating it I cant seem to find any. They only regulate the quality of the meat. Even then it likely the theres bits of bugs in your meat when you eat it.
jaaronhart 7 months ago
@jaaronhart I don't seem to be able to post links, but in the U.S. meat packing plants are regulated by the FDA and USDA to insure the proper slaughter, handling and feeding of the animals as well as the quality of the meat. For example, you have to be licensed in the U.S. to operate a slaughterhouse by the USDA to insure that the quality of the facility is acceptable for the efficient, humane slaughter of the animals, state laws may also apply. Check USDA.gov.
Alf90100 7 months ago
@jaaronhart You can't trust anything that PETA says. Period. Meet your meat is pure BS propaganda, seriously, look deeper into the videos, you can tell that many are at least 2-3 decades old.
If the meat packing industry is too worried about profits to stun the animals in the line before outright killing them, why would they tolerate a sizable portion of 30% coming in dead? That makes no sense. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Alf90100 7 months ago
@Alf90100 dude the meat companies tolerate the 30% beacause the slaughterhouses will still sluaghter it and sell it. Get that through your head. They can still legally sell it. Why waste money to prevent 3/10 animals alive when the meat is legally still good and edible.
jaaronhart 7 months ago
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Alf90100 7 months ago
@Alf90100 My source is Meet your Meat. They allow it because theres nothing stopping them. The American government says its ok to eat. The slaughterhouse doesnt care they just kill it.
jaaronhart 7 months ago
@jaaronhart *Facepalm* That's a PETA source...
They'll tell you anything to get you to go vegan and they'll show you the same video clips of "slaughterhouse cruelty" over and over to illicit an emotional response.
You really think that they don't want all of their animals to come in alive and to kill them all quickly? It's about money if nothing else.
Reputable slaughterhouses are very humane, 99% of animals come in alive and 99% are killed humanely in under 5 seconds.
Alf90100 7 months ago
A HEN LAYING AN EGG IS BASICALLY A WOMAN HAVING HER PERIOD WITHOUT THE BLOOD! The egg has to be fertilized otherwise it is not life. Without the rooster's sperm to fertilize the egg, the egg is expelled, just like the egg in a woman's uterus is expelled DURING HER PERIOD.
So when guys jack off or have sex with condoms, and a woman has her period, us humans are on a killing rampage then right?
So the logic of "you shouldn't eat eggs" is flawed.
Because it is lifeless. Just like a plant.
starXtrekXgirl 7 months ago
EGGS GIVE ME STRENGTH! :D
MoonLitBunny 8 months ago
Always such a fucking hypocrite Onision. Horribly wrong to kill an animal to eat it, but perfectly acceptable to keep animals around, breeding them into flawed [domesticated] existances just to reap the benefits of their captive lives. I fail to see how that is any more humane then breeding them to be killed outright.
Alf90100 8 months ago
WAIT! If you truly love animals as much as you say, you wouldn't eat eggs either! Why would you want those chickens to only be alive so that they can squeeze out eggs, and then most likely be killed for not being able to produce anymore eggs? Think, dude...
aboutashow 8 months ago
Eeeerrrm I seem to remember other videos of yours where you bleet on about how humans are not naturally suposed to eat meat. Due to the amount of protein in eggs they are classed as meat. You also go on about how we cant eat uncooked meat without getting ill yet you have to cook eggs if you want to avoid salmonella. Honestly you are just a massive hypocrite.
mgigkgeg 8 months ago
Hmmmmm ? They Hen-erate ?
zimtran007 8 months ago
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Ztroyer105 8 months ago
I WANTED TO PET IT. D: <3.
ZombehKittehTNG 8 months ago
eggs are a chicken's menstruation period but without the eww and with yummy
RavagePirate 9 months ago
@RavagePirate Wtf keep that to yourself eww
jaaronhart 7 months ago
thx for telling me i thought i was eating babeis and i felt guilty :) thank you very much love ya
candeceandambershow 10 months ago
watch?v=PihnjNidw1c Jam to this lil' homie!
sonicsoul0 10 months ago
whats wrong with eating an egg. and most people know that all the rooster does is fertalize the egg..
OgrAdaY 10 months ago
@gothbabii188 Lol they do look cuddly but it would probably peck you XD
Nightowl1591 11 months ago
GIVE IT TO ME SO I CAN CUDDLE IT!!! :D
gothbabii188 11 months ago
is it your hen?
mothernature9818 11 months ago
since its unfertilized its okay to eat if ur a vegan, but if u wan to go full vegan then i would not suggest to eat the UNfertilized eggs (AKA not alive eggs or never were to begin with because a sperm has not penitrated it to become a liveing thing)
MsMiniMakeup811 11 months ago
@MsMiniMakeup811 They don't have to fertilize it...
darkmatterdoesit 11 months ago
@darkmatterdoesit did i say it had to be fertilized??? no i didnt...
MsMiniMakeup811 11 months ago
So this isnt a clip from kill cook eat
sirbestnameever 11 months ago
thanks T_T now everytime i eat an egg (i only eat unfertalized ones) i know im eating a chickens period
thependulumwolves 1 year ago
What if the egg has been fertilized are you still just eating an egg? I have eaten a fertilized egg, therefore I have eaten rooster cum. hahahahahaha!
nezneon 1 year ago
@nezneon Congrats. :)
HeartlessPrisoner 10 months ago
i use to have chickens till I shut the coop one night and didn't realize a raccoon was in there :b
RavenHarvest 1 year ago
Hens are cute C:
ChristianKubiak 1 year ago
Wow do people really think you need a rooster to get eggs? Thats ridiculous.
PGTRegard 1 year ago
:3 The noises that she's making is sooo cute! :D
Tygerlily179 1 year ago 2
Can I come over to your house and has some eggs?
fengatormx6 1 year ago
thumbs up if your first thought was "a cock!!"
MrBobMoo 1 year ago
buk buk buk buuuuuuuk
TheJam1192 1 year ago
i have pet hens.. they eat there own eggs.o.o". and i eat them too. we share! :D
OpalStarDragon 1 year ago 5
The end made me laugh too hard...
lazrpo 1 year ago
My answers:
1. a chicken
2. make noises like "cacodoodledooooooo"
3. uuh.... umm.... uh... yes? NO I MEAN NO
GeminiWithHope 1 year ago
cute hen :)
s332745744 1 year ago
sooo..eggs...are...ok???
youpooper1234567890 1 year ago
@youpooper1234567890
Yup, if your not vegan that is.
For vegetarians its ok though.
Lordwakka 1 year ago
instead of eating the eggs yourself, you could feed them raw to your chickens
bauhearse 1 year ago
lol for some reason i lauhed at the end, but yes i believe u.
PyrogirlZZ 1 year ago
Answer to question number 1 is....good eatin
turkdaddy813 1 year ago
ITS A CHICKEN :D
Marko767 1 year ago 48
@Marko767 ..... hen is a female chicken
TheKatyLady1 1 year ago
@TheKatyLady1 well aware lol
Marko767 1 year ago
CHEAT SHEET:
1.Hen
2.Lay Eggs
3.No
jmunky123 1 year ago 70
@jmunky123 Thanks! Now I know I'm going to pass!
TwistedDownfall123 1 year ago
I sooooo wanna eat that chicken!!
yassin0808 1 year ago
i already knew that
aboutashow 1 year ago
Dude I Was Right On The Last Question And You Said I Was Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lucyn331 1 year ago
i thought chicken
xBonesAreBeautiful 1 year ago
I want that chicken deep fried. Just looking at it makes me hungry.
FuckYooAll 1 year ago
@FuckYooAll Wow, that's really...sick. Then you should get hungry every time you see your friends too.
TheShadowFlame101 1 year ago
@TheShadowFlame101 Yup, I get Dahmer thoughts every time I see them.
FuckYooAll 1 year ago
....so if you eat an unfertilized egg.....its pretty much like eating a period from a chicken....right?
whatotdogsrmadeof 1 year ago 4
Those eggs that you eat aren't fertilized, so there aren't even any "babies" in there.
Hejzwej 1 year ago
i don't get it so it's ok to eat eggs?
MyWolf15 1 year ago
@MyWolf15 Some people believe that all eggs have baby chickens in them. This proves them wrong.
TheShadowFlame101 1 year ago
@TheShadowFlame101 ohhh ok thanks :)
MyWolf15 1 year ago
Did you know that there's no such thing as a peacock egg? It's true.
davidls11 1 year ago
@1329PresscottStreet i was just joking around cuz my room mate is British and he was watching me type. i don't have anything against your country at all. in fact most of the the music i listen too(rock/metal) comes from you're neck of the woods. That comment was completely unnecessary of me and i am truly sorry if i offended you.
tsmetal 1 year ago
you scared the crap out of me at the end!
Chazlotte 1 year ago
i dont know if this has to do with your diet but dude you look really pale and unhealthy looking. go tan or something you look like an a brit and no one wants to look like those ugly people
tsmetal 1 year ago
@tsmetal British people are beautiful :) thumbs up if tsmetal doesn't know his arse from his elbow :)
HungryConnor 1 year ago 2
@HungryConnor i am sorry if i offended you, but you do not need to insult me. you are just as bad.
tsmetal 1 year ago
Hm.......not sure what the point of this is actually. Are you saying its okay to eat unfertilized chicken eggs?
Evnyofdeath 1 year ago
Did anyone know if you drink milk you let someone molest a cow
Pimpo168 1 year ago
@Karyn64
Nice job. I did the research more thoroughly and you were correct. But its based mostly on genetics. Ah hell its a damn egg, they're good, lets leave it at that. ;p
Madd3n117 1 year ago
Brown eggs are new chickens and white ones are unfertilized. Meaning that the white ones are not going to develop into anything. Its an egg. I personally love eggs.
Madd3n117 1 year ago
@Madd3n117 eggs are nasty no i really dont like the taste of eggs no idea why
FunWithAGun97 1 year ago
@Madd3n117 Brown eggs come from darker feathered hens and white or very light colored hens lay white eggs. The color of the egg shell has nothing to do them being fertilized or not:) And Araconas lay green/blue tinted eggs. Natural Easter eggs!
Karyn64 1 year ago 3
This time he is a hipocrit. Maybe the eggs are ok if they are from his chickens but farm raised eggs come from tortured chickens.
martenfisher1 1 year ago
@martenfisher1 Buy them from an actual farm then. It shouldn't be too hard to find an actual farm that sells them. Try a Mennonite community. and the correct spelling is hypocrite
ArielDarkBlade69 1 year ago
@ArielDarkBlade69 We don't have farms here. Atleast not real producing fams. I wish I was back home where there are good farmers like menonites. Last time I was up I bought chickens from them because I hate factory farmed meats going in my gut. If we had them here I would buy eggs every week.
martenfisher1 1 year ago
What's your point Onision, I already knew that and this is actualy encouraging me to lay eggs xD Ehm I mean eat them xD Ok ok, that was totally intended.
Waddleduck64 1 year ago
do u eat eggs?
TheZombie13777 1 year ago
this was the first video i ever saw about you, years ago it popped up on my youtube front page and i clicked it :3. because of you, i haven't eaten meat in 2 years. thank you for everything
mccornhead 1 year ago
Without a rooster, the egg isn't fertilized, so you're not killing anything.
xokumriexo 1 year ago 2
So would you eat an egg? It's never gonna become life. It simply isn't. You're not harming another creature. Also, could someone explain veganism to me? Why would you not drink milk and stuff like that?
MrKli4d 1 year ago
@MrKli4d Veganisms is a way mroe extreme side of vegetarianism. vegetarianism focuses on not eating anything that was one or would of once been a life, thats it. Veganism focuses on anything that comes from animals, including dairy. Why, im nto sure, maybe they fele it hurts the animal in some way, because i heard in order for cows to produce milk they must be constantly pregnant.
SSJEve 1 year ago
@SSJEve not constantly. the milk will last for about 300 days or so so they'd get pregnant about once a year which is fairly normal in the animal world. It also hurts them not being milked
ArielDarkBlade69 1 year ago
what's the point - are you justifying your consumption of eggs?
or your enslavement of a hen - locked in a cage - to produced eggs ?
CodeMonkeyWithACanon 1 year ago
@CodeMonkeyWithACanon you're right in a way but its better to care for it as a pet and eat their eggs than buy them from the store, like i wouldent consider a dog to be a slave
drinkbottle4 1 year ago
@drinkbottle4 - meh - i was just wondering out loud - don't really care -
there's an old chinese proverb - remove the plank from thine own eye before you point out the splinter in mine -
CodeMonkeyWithACanon 1 year ago
who's the stupid who didn't know that a hen can make eggs without a rooster o.O?
fleetingray 1 year ago
you dont need a rooster to have eggs for breakfast... you need a rooster to have more chicks
Rexbear97 1 year ago
yes, but hens arent hurt when you eat an egg. because a fetus hasnt developed.
sillygabbyx 1 year ago
this is the point i keep trying to make to the people who critisize me for being a vegetarian and still eating eggs. maybe ill just show them this
xXnikkiXxXtoneyXx 1 year ago
0:15 - 0:22 I said no, yet I'm hearin "No, thats wrong" from his lips to me, I'm confused now xD
AForgottenSecret 1 year ago
So, you're arguing for eating eggs? If a hen's egg is taken away, the hen feels a need to make more, and it puts unneeded stress on the hen.
127gggwtf 1 year ago
@127gggwtf if you dont take away the egg they still make more, and sometimes they start to eat their own eggs if they are left there
b00shb00shh 1 year ago
somebodys on the crazy train today.
WeAllMustMoveOn 1 year ago
Maybe..MAYBE! The hen went next door and then got knocked up by a squirrel or went to the rooster sperm bank! And THEN once it layed eggs the hens started having orgys so then they layed more eggs and THEN thoes hens have more orgy's and more and more hens are being born into a life of organisms and laying eggs without a rooster. THINK ABOUT THAT ONISION!!!!!
(For thoes of you who don't know this was a joke) =)
Vinnydes134 1 year ago
Dude...You really think you're so smart to know this? No shit.
iarekaty 1 year ago
@iarekaty - I bet you feel really good right now, don't you? LOL I bet you feel superior to someone who asked you very basic questions that you COULD answer. (Er.. I hope.) What I find amusing is that you missed his deeper point... xD Only to get technical and be all "o u think u smrt, *I* SMART i new dat alrdy! PSHHH u stuped i kill u an make u ded."
ROFL
YourDarkAccomplice 1 year ago