Letterman - Dave's Monologue - 07/23/09

[LateZero]

Dave needs to buy a suit that fits.

[KristianGunther]

someone how could tell me the name at the first song? in the start before the show?

[nikefreak01]

i couldnt care less about the commercial at end

[jendeedotnet]

It is really sad to see how Letterman ended up. This is why Carson didn't pick him. Where's the funny, Dave? You had it for a very little while and lost it. It's a shame to see CBS still sticks with losers even when the ratings stink. You'd think they would have learned with Rather and Couric and all the other low ratings idiots over there.

[hgates101]

"this is why carson didnt pick him" do you even have your facts straight or are you just talking out of thin air....carson did pick dave the NBC execs didnt......maybe you should do your homework before commenting?

[fordieform]

FUK ads FUK YOU ASSHOLE

-hero

[sdmitch16]

@fordieform Ads would be paying for the bandwidth to show us this if Google didn't own enough fiber optic cable to get free internet.

[Deathnikro]

DRONING

[lalo24fan123]

Republicans are also mad because they don't cover shots by Dick Cheyney!

[ohgee1]

He's funny. Better than that Gay-Lovin James Leno!

[mwn213]

what's wrong with gays, man...?

[Trelli28]

everything.

[mwn213]

Well...hate to be difficult, but define "everything". I just want to know because sometimes people are homophobes for really nonsensical reasons.

[Trelli28]

what's a wise reason to like homosexuals or homosexuality? They market their perversion with masterful success yet they do not contribute to existence. They (arguably) spawn and (factually) spread HIV.

[mwn213]

It's not like all gays and lesbians are AIDS carriers. Some of them are really sweet, decent people. Don't have much to say about "marketing perversion"--I'd argue heterosexuals like Paris and Kim K are responsible for marketing perversions as well--is there a sliding scale for perversion letters. And maybe gays do spread HIV--amongst gays. Do they factually spread them among heterosexuals? To a degree worse than heteros-to-heteros? The epidemic in Africa comes to mind...THEY aren't all gay...

[mwn213]

and when i said "perversion letters" I meant levels. Apologies.

[Trelli28]

Decency doesn't go hand in hand with perversion. Men whallowing in each other's feces is perverted. Bisexual men infect heterosexual women. Some of these men marry women or is their boyfriend etc. In Toronto last month, a HIV+ homosexual man was arrested for sexually assualting a woman. Homosexuality is marketed to the masses through films, tv, Oprah, books, magazines etc. Paris Hilton doesn't bring death to humanity by her vanity.

[mwn213]

Well...what do you have to say about heterosexual men who infect heterosexual women? The Toronto story last month--very interesting. Is that the only story you know of...? Because there are definitely plenty more stories of heterosexual men assulting heterosexual women...lol I'd say heterosexuality is marketed in as great a variety and just as grossly as is homosexuality. A lot of it is very mysogynistic (hiphop music videos--like rock videos before them--and internet porn come to mind).

[Trelli28]

I know you're 21, but you need to mature a bit. Heterosexuality exists to propogate the human specie. It is 400% more difficult for a woman to infect a man with HIV via intercourse, therefore, when a HIV + man claims to be heterosexual, it is almost aways the case that he is lying, and is in fact bisexual. Anyways, Letterman's monologue isn't about sexuality so this conversation has run its course. Have a good night.

[mwn213]

Just to let you know, you're the one who dropped the ball and insulted me on this one. Thought it was gonna stay "disagree without being disagreeable". Anyway, that of course is not the point. Being gay doesn't stall reproduction. Being gay is a personal preference--not a physical/sexual handicap. All you need to reproduce is the sexual organs required. Ever heard of surrogate mothers? Sperm doners? And your HIV "facts" may be valid...what does it say about the ills of being Gay though...?

[Trelli28]

Homosexuality doesn't reproduce. Being human with functional reproductive organs is nothing if a member of the opposite sex isn't included someway. To men cannot create life, surrage mothers means female inclusion. Homosexual results not only not producing life, but also the generation/spreading of an incurable disease. It is a dead end in more ways than one. If you want to continue beleiving the nonsence that homosexuality is somehow nobel, continue. But your conscience knows you're wrong.

[mwn213]

lol...I have no comment on u telling me about my conscience. You don't think gay fathers can ask for a surrogate mother...? It's happened before--as I've said. All you need are the sex organs and both sexes; last time I checked, gays and lesbians can have sperm and eggs just like everyone else. Sexual orientation and attraction have absolutely nothing to do with reproduction--can't stress it enough. And I never said being gay was noble. I never said it was ignoble. Some things just are.

[Trelli28]

Ok, I think we are going around in circles. Reproduction in human animals HAVE to be done by BOTH GENDERS. If two homosexual men could produce life between them they wouldn't REQUIRE a woman's input. As for HIV in SOUTHERN Africa where whites tried to create genocide in the native population(without ready access to condoms), would it shock you to learn that the epidemic was created by sinister means such as innoculation?

[mwn213]

what shocks me is that you just took one step closer to admitting that AIDS isn't solely transmitted through homosexual behavior.

[mwn213]

and, uh...You just continued the circle. What you said is what IIII had said prior. Yes--gay men need a woman's input to reproduce. As long as there are both men and women around, babies will be born--hence, WHO CARES IF EVERY WOMAN AND EVERY MAN IS GAY. People can still have kids--that's what I've been trying to say... Do you understand?

[Trelli28]

If everyone was homosexual, the species would have not exist. Logically, if everyone was homosexual, their would be no need for both genders. Wow, smart you are...

[mwn213]

So you're saying if everyone was gay, there would be no further reproduction? If you want to talk about Logic, then logically this doesn't make sense. Deductive logic says that prerequisites for reproduction are men and women and their sex organs--eggs and sperm and whatnot. Making babies requires the right tools--HETEROSEXUAL ATTRACTION IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. Therefore, it is ILLOGICAL to conclude that sexual orientation has anything to do with reproduction. It really can't get any clearer...

[Trelli28]

In only three run-on sentences, you've contradicted yourself. In our talk, when have I said anything about attraction, heterosexual or otherwise? Straw men arguments do not work with me.

[mwn213]

Honestly, following your line of reason, you'd be one to say something like "If you don't like Hip-Hop, you don't like music" or better yet, "If you don't like Hip-Hop, you don't like Black people". Liking hip-hop IS NOT a prerequisite for like Black people. It's the same model with sexual orientation and reproduction: BEING GAY has absolutely nothing to do with BEING ABLE TO REPRODUCE.

[mwn213]

It's not like every gay man has AIDS, ya know...Also, ya know you've said nothing of the AIDS epidemic in Africa. Many of them are Muslim--probably just as conservative and defensive as you when it comes to homosexuality. AIDS spreads and kills like wildfire over there and its done via UNPROTECTED heterosexual sex. And I don't understand how straight guys are afraid of contracting a disease from...guys who wouldn't have sex with straight guys, heheh.

[Trelli28]

Since I'm not a guy, I don't concern myself with the sexual proclivities of men except that it impacts women when they bring sexual diseases like syphillis, herpes simplex virus, HIV etc, directly cultured from homosexual sex, over to women. I bet even your 'gay' friends don't know that.

[mwn213]

Syphillis, Herpesm and HIV "cultured from homosexual sex", huh...As in originated from homosexuals? Would it be possible for you to direct me to these findings--links perhaps? I'm very curious as where you get your information...

[mwn213]

And I won't doubt that there are cases of Bi or gay, HIV+ men assaulting and affecting poor female victims. But statistically...honestly now--do cases such as this really rival (i.e. statistically) the widespread problems of mysogyny, womanizing, and rape that women deal with at the hands of STRAIGHT men? If gay, HIV ridden assault is a big threat (from a minority group btw) I think I would've heard of it by now, but stories of women being mistreated by straight men never get old...a pandemic.

[Trelli28]

atleast with womanizing the risk of men contracting HIV is minimal to nil. As a woman I could live with that.

[mwn213]

Are you a rape victim?

[Trelli28]

Want to psychoanalyze me? Puzzles you that a woman is against homosexuality?

[mwn213]

Well, ignorance and innocence don't puzzle me. It used to frustrate me, but then I just tell myself that its not totally one's fault if he or she turns out a certain way. You're a homophobe C; stuff happened in your life and it made u a homophobe. I don't know what made you that way but there's no use in trying to learn about things you can never know. Who cares if something is puzzling...

[Trelli28]

Wow, so someone who recognizes homosexuality for what it is wouldn't fit in your neat little boxes of 'ignorance' and 'innocence'. Let me ask, apart from being coerced by the media, 'do-gooders' and homosexuals, have you actually looked at homosexuality from a variety of angles minus bias? Objectively?

I don't care for your label. Homophobe suggests fear. I don't fear them. I understand and loathe homosexuality.

[mwn213]

Loathing and hate also suggest fear. Sure--I fear stupidity and zeal, mindless trust in limited experience with inductive logic. I fear that ignorance will affect the children I hope to have one day. You however are afraid of boys who kiss boys and the apparently (according to you) huge and threatening demographic of bisexual, infected rapists. Fear--why else would you hate? I think one of us is tad bit more reasonable.

Anyway, enough arguing. Let's talk action: what's your plan for gays?

[Trelli28]

'boys who kiss boys'. Ok, I allowed you to use fear as a part of your argument. I am indifferent to homosexual men. I don't care whether they live or die. What I care about is how bisexual(especially the ones in who hide the homosexual aspect of their behaviour) men impact women. It is a threat to women whether you accept it or not. Do a google search on the stories of women and how they got infected. My "plan for gays"? I don't plan for them. My resources are directed toward educating women.

[mwn213]

And another question.

I know you're Jamaican (I bet u LOOOVE that "Bonfire to the Chi Chi Man" or whatever it's called reggae song), so you may be unfamiliar with the offensive "Jesus Freak" label. in case you don't, its a derogatory term for devout evangelicals.

Are you a "God-fearing" woman/man as they say?

[Trelli28]

What other sterotype do you want to associate with me?

[mwn213]

Well anyway, I was asking cus yes--I want to psychoanalyze you to a degree C; (you can't prove to me that you're a woman by the way). But I just want to know because if you've never been subject to mysogyny (especially at the hands of staright men), you can't really put yourself in the shoes of a woman who HAS been a victim of mysogyny. Are you telling me gay, infected rapists are a greater threat to women than straight (and infected) rapists? I'd like to hear you tell a rape victim this...

[Trelli28]

You obviously don't get it. HIV+ women were infected by bisexual men. Being raped is one thing. Being sentence to sure death is another. I have no interest in proving my gender to you. You either accept it, or you don't.

[davidperi]

Keep Letterman coming...many time I cannot get him on his site.