i hate this arse hole banging on about how only 90 coupe that was good was the vw ffs how about the 1990s audi 90 quattro coupe exactly way better than this crappy golf
S2000 is in the list... it's the last lengthwise mounted engine and rear wheel drive platformed car Honda will ever make... or so they claim. IE... it's the last proper sports car they will ever make.
@hkbfkmb so? who cares? only rich stuck people care if theyre embarrasing or not. the fact is, japanese sports cars go like hell, take shits all over european cars, very cheap and will last decades
So, 8 years on and have things improved (in financial terms) for either car? No.... Not really. A quick look on auto trader has several VR6's at under £2000. And the Merc? Fared a little better with 5K needed to get the cheapest listed. One other factor the video misses is parts prices. Corrado specific panels cost a fortune, as does anything related to the VR6 engine. The Merc has similar problems, but also self levelling rear suspension which can be mind-blowingly expensive.
GM stopped making everything SS in 2009. The Cobolt, the Malibu, Impala... only Camaro still carries the SS flag. I wonder if thos will be worth anything?
The only thing Hamster got wrong in this vid was recommending getting the MB with a sodding sludgebox transmission, no true *sports* (or sporty) car has an automatic, automatics are for poseurs and wankers, or people too lazy to learn how to drive a proper, real transmission
Sodding slushboxes should be outlawed, unless the driver has a legitimate, medically verifiable need for one
obviously a lot of you people commenting here are from the USA. i have to tell you something.. asian cars are worthless in europe after a few years. this is the reason why you skyline or supra or which kiddy car you asked for were not mentioned in this video
@DrArt1 true. but i my comment was not focused on his but on all comments and people watching this. i justed wanted to explain how the car market in europe works.
mastreta mxt es el nuevo automovil mexicano, este sera el rival más directo del Lotus Elise 1.8 R (1.8 192 cv/860 Kg), el Mastretta MXT tiene un motor central transversal de 2.3 litros y 4 cilindros con 200 cv tracción trasera. Pesa 1000 kg, hace el 0-100 Km/h entre 6 y 7 segundos y tiene una velocidad punta de 230 Km/h. Aquí, tengo que decirlo, el motor del Mastretta MXT no está muy desarrollado puesto que tan sólo pesa 140 kg más en cojunto que el Elise 1.8 R
@GunsOfThePhoenix my family has one of those.....its a pile.....pontiac took a potentially great car and ruined it. supercharged v6 admitadly has a good amount of torque but the car is so heavy that it needs a v8 powerplant in my opinion....and front wheel drive? what the hell were they thinking? i have no idea what you are htinking saying that it will be a classic...
@yuyusuck vettes in the late 80s through the early 90s came in the range of 245 to 403 horsepower, and the base engine in a 90 camaro was 210 horsepower... just saying
I like how he says that Martin Brundle called it one of the best chassis int he world, then in season 15 James May used one and they all made fun of him and said he made it up.
@ACEkilla17 98 supra pffftt i say Nissan skyline GTR r32, and R34, The r33 wasnt the best but those were are and always will be far better then the supra and to add they are much more rare. Have an astoundingly good racing pedigree to those who know anything about them. Not to mention the 90s Mazda rx7 that was a damn good car too. The supra is big bulky and antill u modify it, its downrite ugly. Well to me at least.
@wowzinger well i disagree i think the supra is great. i like skylines too, but i cant get one because im in america. i like rx7s too. id really like an rx7 with the veilside fortune body kit.
@ACEkilla17 You can get skylines in the states, its not cheap though. Otherwise, if you own property in a country where you dont have to pay an arm and a leg to get one you could keep it there and drive it.
You appear to not know the history of the supra. The Skyline R32 was basically unbeatable in the japanese touring car races for several years in a row. However, the supra was the car that defeated it. The reason it was a legend is because it beat the GT-R. Saying that the R32 is better when the Supra became famous for beating it just sounds silly.
@sykku really well the group A racing. the GTR was made for was infact finished it stopped because gtrs only won maybe in another racing class the supra won but the skyling has been proven to always beet the supra stock, but when is comes to moding it jsut matter who has more money. The GTR won 29 races in a row.
It won the JGTC Chanmpion ship 4 times in a row. It was also the first car to race at the Nurburgring and get under 8 minites. i found nothing on the supra beating them.
You just compiled the achievements of the R32 - R34 Skylines. If the supra can be compared to 3 models of the skyline, that just adds more to it's credit. The R32 won JGTC, the R33 was the first car to lap nur in under 8 minutes, and the R34 was the GT-R produced at the same time as the Mark IV Supra to compare. I'm glad that even you respect the Supra by comparing it to 3 models of the GT-R. I'm surprised you are having trouble finding info on the Supra, I recommend a google search.
@sykku ya ya sure even on wikipedia there isnt a racing section on the supra the supra has no good racing pedagree its fast but not that fast... lol im done with this i know people are smart enough to see whos wright here.
@sykku and i know i did not complet all the achievements not even half of its achievements there is alot more to show. and what facts have you stated on the supras racing pedagre state some of them please please do.
both celica and probe are ugly compared to corado and 190e !@#$%... lets take for sample A 190 evolution 2 ,fast ,beautiful looking, and sport spirit !!
tell me that a celica gt-four is not a classic already, please. And if a corrado looks better than a probe or a celica than there's something wrong with my eyes because I really can't see where
I've actually owned every one of the cars mentioned here, the Corrado, (and the Scirroco that came before it) the 190E Cossa and the Audi Quattro. The most expensive was the Corrado, which was fairly newish at the time. Not cos rich, just loved the cars - the Audi cost me more to insure than it cost to buy (late 20's). Damn fine metal, all of them. Also had the Sierra Cossa (hideous fuel consumption) and a Porky 924S. Apart from the VW, less than $3000 each!
@Capnwabbit Erm, that's pounds, don't have a pound sign on this keyboard, as I'm in Asia now. My favorite? The Audi. First truly powerful car I ever had - and I loved the way you could floor it at lights in the rain (try doing that in the rear wheel drive Porsche...) Today I drive a little 4x4 Kembara, all throbbing 1300cc of it. *sigh*
@Slipknotyk06 Not the Crossfire - that was such a sales disaster Chrysler were selling them on a spare parts website. And whose bright idea was it to name a car after multi directional gunfire?
@NobleM15fan - personally, I'd buy a crossfire myself if I could pick up the money for one. They're great cars, the main problem is they didn't deliver the sport performance that sports car fans expect in a sports coupe. I believe that the sheer scarcity in 20 years will drive up the price of the Crossfire. Even Fieros are rising in price.
I'd like to add an other entry onto that little list:
@Slipknotyk06 I'm not sure about the Lincoln - the only thing I know about Lincoln is that their idea of a town car was an enormous saloon that looked like a brick, and powered with a 5.7 litre V8. Perfect after an oil crisis.
The Crossfire was really just a Mercedes SLK in a different body. It was crap to drive, and it had a really cheap and nasty interior. The cabriolet looked OK, but the hardtop was hideous. If you want to buy one, go ahead. But don't expect it to become a classic.
@NobleM15fan - The Lincoln Mark VIII is a 2 door and was the RWD equivalent to the last generation Buick Riviera. It has an Intech 4.6 DOHC producing 295 horsepower. You forget gas prices are about 1/3 here of what they are in Europe.
The Town Car hasn't been powered by the Ford 5.8 since the early 80s.
I personally liked the Crossfire inside and out. The point is it was very different. I do expect it to become a classic.
@Slipknotyk06 Not really. It was front engined, just like its rivals, rear wheel drive, just like its rivals, it has a V6, just like its rivals, and it was available as a convertible, just like its rivals. How was it different? The point I'm making is that it came out at the same time as the Mazda RX8, Nissan 350Z and the Alfa Romeo Brera. Just because a car doesn't sell very well, doesn't mean it'll be a classic. A Porsche 928 (which was a good car) is today only worth about 20 thousand.
@NobleM15fan - The styling was different. The suspension setup was radically different. The Buick Reatta was a HUGE flop when it was in production, but it's climbing back up in value (it's hard to find one under 3 grand) and the Cadillac Allante was a huge flop but it's hard to find one under 10 grand now. Scarcity helps a vehicle a long way in recouping value. Then, if the vehicle has a following (like Mitsu 3000 GT VR4) It will reclaim value very quickly.
@Slipknotyk06 That is true, but if the car is scarce because it was rubbish, then that won't make it desirable. Car which were flops at the time have become classics - Jaguar XJ220 and Lancia Thema 8.32 are now considered classics. The Crossfire was awful really. The fact was it was outclassed by pretty much everything. It wasn't as pretty as the Alfa Romeo Brera, it wasn't as fast as the Mazda RX8 and Nissan 350Z, and it wasn't as well made as the Audi TT.
@NobleM15fan - Well, the Alfa wasn't sold here. The Mazda was subject to a recall because the exhaust passes too close to the gas tank and caused fires. The Mazda RX series is the only production car to have problems with fires in every single last generation. The Nissan in my opinion has horrible styling on the outside. Audi TT was a thoroughbred chick's car that was almost 10 K more expensive here. It's an expensive Beetle to me.
@Slipknotyk06 I'm with you on the TT - but the RX8s sold in Europe never had that problem. They were well received, and even now it is considered to be the best sports coupe for under 30 thousand. The Nissan 350Z is ugly, and it sounds awful, but it is a good drive.
The fact with the Crossfire though, is that it didn't do anything we haven't seen before done much better. In 10 years time, no one is going to be saying "Ooh, I really fancy an old Crossfire."
@NobleM15fan - Maybe not so much in Europe. In America, there are people paying 40-50 grand for an original DeLorean, and that was a ridiculous flop with horrible reliability problems. If people will pay that for the DeLorean, they'll start bidding up Crossfires in a couple decades. I strongly doubt the Crossfire will catch the DeLorean in value, but they'll increase at a faster rate.
@Slipknotyk06 I think the DeLorean is worth that much, because it's the only car made in Ireland. According to an Irish comedian it drove "like a bus with wooden wheels". For a car to become a classic it has to be rare and interesting. The Crossfire is rare, but purely because no one wanted it. It wasn't interesting though.
@NobleM15fan The Ford Edsel is considered one of the ugliest cars ever, and a huge flop for Ford. Yet, they command huge prices nowadays. So it's a hit and miss thing.
@NobleM15fan - The Pinto continues to have a bad reputation therefore suffers from decreased demand. The Gremlin competed against it and has much higher value. The Pinto will always suffer like the Yugo and the Chevy Corsaire, because Consumer Reports single-handedly spread the notion that these are "Unsafe at Any Speed"
@Slipknotyk06 Other cars that were flops that aren't classics - the Chevrolet Corvair. That was so bad, the US government nearly banned rear engined cars.
@NobleM15fan - I've actually driven the Chevy Corvair. However, you have to understand the fucking car to drive it. Each tire has a specific tire pressure then it handles just as well as the MR2 15 years later. It's a great car, it's that people don't understand the freaking car. It was a swing axle design that works great when the tire pressures are dialed in. It's just not a very idiot-friendly car like the stuff you have today.
@Slipknotyk06 I'm sorry to say this but I really don't agree with you. If it was a great car, why did it cause the US government to consider banning rear engined cars outright? And I've been through some classic car magazines - never once, ever, have I seen a Corvair advertised.
@NobleM15fan - I actually doubt what you're saying is even true. The Corvair was built toward the end of the production run for the DeTomaso Pantera. Also, the Beetle survived past the end of the production run.
I don't think that action was truly ever on the table. Even the idiots at Consumer Reports wouldn't have pushed for that, so I'm calling your statement out as untrue.
@Slipknotyk06 Even if you don't like to hear it, it is true. I found out about it when I was doing research for my video about the Porsche 928. There was talk of it, but it never got anywhere near being passed.
@NobleM15fan - I don't think it was ever put up for vote. It may have been in consideration in committee, but that's where you squash ideas, before special interests get to them.
Anyways, at least you're not tryin to tell you totally absurd cars like the Saturn SC2 will be classics :-P
@Slipknotyk06 No probably not. But in a way I'm grateful to the Corvair - the rumours of the ban on rear engined cars meant Porsche made one of my favourite classic cars ever - the 928.
Some cars gain value over time, some lose it. The Jaguar E Type and Corvette Stingray are worth more now than when they were new. But a Peugeot 205 GTI and Ford Pinto aren't worth very much at all. It's very hard to know which is which at the time.
@NobleM15fan - Most of the time it becomes more apparent when the cars are about 15 years old. Right now, Cadillac Allante is skyrocketing in value. 2 years ago they were about 8 grand last year 10, now, 12-13. It's unreal. Also, the Ford Taurus SHOs are starting to increase in value slightly (97-up)
@NobleM15fan The Pinto (And yes, the Corvair) both were produced and sold in very large numbers. In the case of the Edsel, it was supposed to be a middle tier luxury car, and the sales were very underwhelming for Ford, who predicted people would buy it by the dozen. And, of course, it's just not a very good car. The Edsel wasn't a bad car by any stretch, it just looked horrible.
@CalvinVr6 - It's NOT calling it a POS. There's a difference between a thoroughbred sports car like the Ford Mustang and a sporty car like the Ford Probe or Hyundai Tiburon.
The crossfire (I'm guessing this is what you're talking about) is probably going to drop all the way to 8 gs or so before starting to rebound in value (they're still at 13-15) but these were luxury sporty cars, not entirely unlike the last generation of the Thunderbird. That's what they were to compete against.
@CalvinVr6 - Ford Probe, I agree. Tiburon, it depends on the year. The original Tiburon evolved from the Hyundai Scoupe. The Hyundai Scoupe was a sporty-looking Accent that had plenty of mechanical issues in the early 90s. The first generation of the actual Tiburon was insanely ugly, with the typical Hyundai problems. After they changed to their current body style, they did far better mechanically. However, they're definitely not classics.
I have an automatic 190E 2.6 inline 6 from 1990 and I hit 120 mph with the thing one night on the freeway after the car has been stored in a warehouse for 8 years. I whooped a GTI and M3 along the way. Later some guy offered me $10,000 for it and told him to go screw himself :) I fucking love my car!
@ganee6a - The problem with that one is it's actually a pretty common car and shares platforms with the old Caprice if I'm not mistaken. Those aren't going to rise in value nearly as rapidly as less common cars. My picks for American future classics going for big bucks on the auction block are going to be Chrysler Crossfire (quite possibly this generation's Cadillac Allante) and Plymouth Prowler (way overpriced, but iconic styling)
@PtoKaze13 - Not in America. Maybe in other nations where they're (slightly) more plentiful, and NOT ruined by tuners. The 64 1/2 Mustang is worth about 4X as much when it's stock with #s matching on engine, transmission, carb, and all body panels.
id like the merc the vw is just rubbish
crazyvader100 1 week ago
How come Top Gear only talks good about European cars?
kingkong8974 1 week ago
That Corrado reminds me of how M motorsport put the 1M together. Frankenstein car, but still superb
losangelesrep 3 weeks ago in playlist Season 3
honda NSX oh another coupe
paulhunter123 3 weeks ago
and mercedes 240 Ce 340 ce another 90s coupe what a tosser
paulhunter123 3 weeks ago
the corrado is an ugly car but not as ugly as the new thing ive seen with glass roof or whatever and a front apron like a bib
paulhunter123 3 weeks ago
i hate this arse hole banging on about how only 90 coupe that was good was the vw ffs how about the 1990s audi 90 quattro coupe exactly way better than this crappy golf
paulhunter123 3 weeks ago
the bmw e36 3 series coupe was a great car in the 90s as well and still looks good
paulhunter123 3 weeks ago
Some cars I can think of:
Acura NSX
BMW E31 8-series
BMW 1M
Mazda RX-7 (FD)
Nismo 350Z/370Z
2005-2006 Subaru Legacy 2.5GT Limited Wagon and Legacy Spec.B
Toyota Supra MKIV (esp. Turbo)
TurboLag23 1 month ago in playlist Top gear
mmh wer will mit mia schreiben
UrsulaTomokodw651 2 months ago
The Calibra is so much better looking, than both those cars!
EddeyDancer 2 months ago
vw coupe.!@#$%^&*()`][={}
MrDigby74 2 months ago
Yeee. Corrado!
BreakdownsAreLove 4 months ago in playlist Top Gear Car Reviews
but theyre both fugly
StrawB0ss 4 months ago
S2000 is in the list... it's the last lengthwise mounted engine and rear wheel drive platformed car Honda will ever make... or so they claim. IE... it's the last proper sports car they will ever make.
Wheelman286 5 months ago
Evo and how about an 09 dodge challenger r/t?
727freak 5 months ago
@727freak the new challenger will never ever be a classic
DreamJ2eaper 4 months ago
That's Walter Röhrl behind the wheel! I love it!
TheCenturion1 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
cheap auto insurer buzzurl .info
melvablack666 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
cheap auto insurer buzzurl .info
miriamgreenwood350 6 months ago
I wouldn't doubt it if someone told me that after the airing of this episode sales of those cars increased noticeably.
SilvianoJ 6 months ago 29
This has been flagged as spam show
Calling all youtubers! WE NEED YOUR HELP!
As part of a university project, we need to get 500 "likes" so we need your help.
Simply...
search... "team 24 smartpark" (its the first video)
& "Like" our video :)
THANK YOU in advance! :)
Also, if you can, please forward this video to all you know (subscribers, friends on youtube etc.) and get them to "like" the video :)
Thank you again! we cant do it without you!
elmo13ts 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Thumbs up if you hate the "Thumbs up this if you..."!
aleksaalex4 6 months ago
there are plenty of 90s coupes that arent embarassing:
Celica, fto, eclipse, integra, silvia, 300zx and loads more
Sasori327 7 months ago
@Sasori327 Japanese cars were embarassing
hkbfkmb 6 months ago
@hkbfkmb so? who cares? only rich stuck people care if theyre embarrasing or not. the fact is, japanese sports cars go like hell, take shits all over european cars, very cheap and will last decades
Sasori327 6 months ago
@Sasori327 So you want to over take someone to try to let them feel embarrassing with your embarrassing car.
And thanks to you if you drive these then Euro car drivers won't feel embarrassing anymore.
hkbfkmb 6 months ago
@hkbfkmb youre just stuck up okay
Sasori327 6 months ago
0:00 to skip ads
Sasori327 7 months ago
corrado VR6!!!!!! :D
caramelosspeed 7 months ago 4
99 crown victoria
materdeilover 7 months ago
i think the 2009 honda civic
yyyy2999 7 months ago in playlist Top Gear Car Reviews
190 Evo II !!!!
computerfreak2014 7 months ago
OMG 666 LIKES!
guy990 8 months ago
i feel like basically anything could become a future classic. who ever thought that 61 ford falcons, 57 pontiacs, or 73 buicks would be classic?
64TbirdLandau 8 months ago
there's a dude in my hometown with a yellow VR6 with a supercharger :) it's loud as hell, and I'm guessing it's even faster :P
sentineloffreedom 8 months ago
Supra, RX7, 3000GT and others that i cant think of will be Future Classic
iHardStar 8 months ago
i know the benz as evo
MyceTube 8 months ago
So, 8 years on and have things improved (in financial terms) for either car? No.... Not really. A quick look on auto trader has several VR6's at under £2000. And the Merc? Fared a little better with 5K needed to get the cheapest listed. One other factor the video misses is parts prices. Corrado specific panels cost a fortune, as does anything related to the VR6 engine. The Merc has similar problems, but also self levelling rear suspension which can be mind-blowingly expensive.
TheYorkMan 8 months ago
I think subaru impressa 98
Dariovich 8 months ago
Aren't there alot of cars who will be classic's like the Nisan silvia, 300zx, skyline, supra, rx-7, corrado and many more?
MrFredHoogendoorn 9 months ago
GM stopped making everything SS in 2009. The Cobolt, the Malibu, Impala... only Camaro still carries the SS flag. I wonder if thos will be worth anything?
puffrooster 9 months ago
1990 BMW M3 [E30]?
Gulli1000 9 months ago
The 300zx twin Turbo
tunic31 9 months ago
mitsu fto, legendary styling
Sasori327 9 months ago
mitsubishi evolution all of them
amg973 9 months ago
future classics - vauxhall cavalier, mark 1 golf, ferrari 612 scaglietti, de Lorean DMC, rover 75, lancia beta & lotus carlton
NickJ95GB 9 months ago
Pink? It looks more like red
64TbirdLandau 9 months ago
rx7 is a classic
y4juhty 9 months ago
@RetrezVEVO It was posted in 2008 but aired on bbc in 2003
mrbhirst 10 months ago
I thought youtube started in 2005!! but his video was posted in 2003!!
RetrezVEVO 10 months ago
where was this filmed as in area
MasterBattle2000 10 months ago
like classic cars? have you seen the interesting cars on carsboatsandplanes,net lots of pics of very valuable classics
gyrocopterable 10 months ago
I would love to own a Merc 190E.
xese4lifex 11 months ago
The only thing Hamster got wrong in this vid was recommending getting the MB with a sodding sludgebox transmission, no true *sports* (or sporty) car has an automatic, automatics are for poseurs and wankers, or people too lazy to learn how to drive a proper, real transmission
Sodding slushboxes should be outlawed, unless the driver has a legitimate, medically verifiable need for one
MacTechG4 11 months ago
real classic are Mercedes-benz w124, w126 and w140 only!
ALeXNDR10 11 months ago
Does anyone know the name of the song that starts at 0:17?
BJ2991GT500 11 months ago
I don't see how any Japanese box can become a classic...
rock3tcat 11 months ago
my list: fd rx-7, bnr32 skyline, mk3 supra, iroc camaro and 95 mazda cosmo
gasmanswag96 11 months ago
95 fd rx-7
gasmanswag96 11 months ago
obviously a lot of you people commenting here are from the USA. i have to tell you something.. asian cars are worthless in europe after a few years. this is the reason why you skyline or supra or which kiddy car you asked for were not mentioned in this video
resomer 11 months ago
@resomer I don't know about that. Have you checked where the person who commented below your comment is from? The UK.
DrArt1 11 months ago
@DrArt1 true. but i my comment was not focused on his but on all comments and people watching this. i justed wanted to explain how the car market in europe works.
i recommend buying a BMW E30 Cabriolet
resomer 11 months ago
1999 Nissan Skyline GTR R34 = classic!
riversidesoutheast 11 months ago
Go to your address bar, after the word YOU and before the word TUBE, type in "win" then press enter"
miller7408 11 months ago
3:23 - 3:32 no danger at all for people watching the race.
SABUTAI 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
mastreta mxt es el nuevo automovil mexicano, este sera el rival más directo del Lotus Elise 1.8 R (1.8 192 cv/860 Kg), el Mastretta MXT tiene un motor central transversal de 2.3 litros y 4 cilindros con 200 cv tracción trasera. Pesa 1000 kg, hace el 0-100 Km/h entre 6 y 7 segundos y tiene una velocidad punta de 230 Km/h. Aquí, tengo que decirlo, el motor del Mastretta MXT no está muy desarrollado puesto que tan sólo pesa 140 kg más en cojunto que el Elise 1.8 R
vampirodrako 1 year ago
2nd Gen Oldsmobile Aurora with the V8. Future Classic all the way, that car is easily the best looking car GM has ever made.
MrJamesonStyles 1 year ago
@MrJamesonStyles Plus since Oldsmobile no longer exists thats another thing going for it.
97I30T 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@MrJamesonStyles
Are you fucking serious?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
foooooze 11 months ago
So Richard also said the same thing about Martin Brundle that James did in that much more recent episode involving the 190E Cosworth
pbjbmw 1 year ago
Launch video and press 0 over and over :D
PitchkaTiMater 1 year ago
Whats a Coupay?
Avenger2680 1 year ago
@Avenger2680 coupe. the e has a tilde above it which gives it the "ay"
MultiHruby 1 year ago
@Avenger2680 coupé buddy, coupé
PrimeiraFootballer 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHA those people running out of the way of the audi!
I think that a requirement for a future classic is that it has to look good...
robotmonkey73 1 year ago
That Merc is the car James had in the Track day challenge, His car had a smaller engine tho, the 2.3
Holdtheline07 1 year ago
Pontiac Bonneville Supercharged, future classic.
GunsOfThePhoenix 1 year ago
@GunsOfThePhoenix my family has one of those.....its a pile.....pontiac took a potentially great car and ruined it. supercharged v6 admitadly has a good amount of torque but the car is so heavy that it needs a v8 powerplant in my opinion....and front wheel drive? what the hell were they thinking? i have no idea what you are htinking saying that it will be a classic...
BOOSTisYourFriend 1 year ago
What about the BMW E30?
Anoush13 1 year ago
27 people bike to work
MrAdenarific 1 year ago
keep in mind 190 hp was ALOT back then corvettes use to run 190 and camaros use to run 145
yuyusuck 1 year ago 20
@yuyusuck and corvette z06 198
hamzah336 7 months ago
@hamzah336 mph
hamzah336 7 months ago
@yuyusuck vettes in the late 80s through the early 90s came in the range of 245 to 403 horsepower, and the base engine in a 90 camaro was 210 horsepower... just saying
killdac 6 months ago
@killdac im not talking late 80s im tlaking earlier
yuyusuck 6 months ago
@yuyusuck yeah but camaros and vettes had that power 40 years ago not 20 years ago
bigenginesismythang 4 months ago
@yuyusuck and mustangs ran on 250hp
2012GT500Supersnake 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Trusted name on Latino women marriage service *rockmycity.info*
UidenajPjdjk 1 year ago
3:25 Are these rally spectators nuts!
timg455 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
What is your choice here naughty ladie mworld5.info
juyuilh 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
try Russain women online now gettop5.info
KimbyLillydj 1 year ago
The 06-07 S4 25th quattro anniversary will be a future classic. only 250 in existence.
CalvinVr6 1 year ago
aaah nooo! a mercedes with a spoiler ooh noo how coud mercedes do that a mercedes with a spoiler!
Skid00everest340 1 year ago
stop it at second 2.
look at his funny face!!!!
1297golumb 1 year ago 75
@1297golumb lol its funny he looks retarded
Skid00everest340 1 year ago
@1297golumb second 00:40 is the best
bobrec3GTI 1 year ago
@1297golumb 0:10 is pretty good too. Gotta love hammond.
MrJamesonStyles 1 year ago
@1297golumb
even bettar at 0:04
xanado74 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
enjoy full version with this kind of film here on avatz . n e t remove spaces
waldodecker21 1 year ago
i feel like the saab 9-3 will become a classic because they are starting to die out and only the dedicated can keep it running
Yeroc357 1 year ago
look at complete edition associated with this specific movie here on a v a t z . n e t remove spaces
acostagino 1 year ago
I like how he says that Martin Brundle called it one of the best chassis int he world, then in season 15 James May used one and they all made fun of him and said he made it up.
abcd827 1 year ago 2
Nein! Keine automatik!!! That ruins the whole freaking car, and all that potential engine performance loses its purpose... :\
rock3tcat 1 year ago
Im hoping a 2006 Saturn Ion 3 will become a classic eventually. I know its early to tell, but im hoping!
IslandReservoir 1 year ago
i feel like the 98 supra is a future classic
ACEkilla17 1 year ago 98
@ACEkilla17 hell it already is
stig670 1 year ago
@ACEkilla17 its becoming really rare, so it could be a classic, not to mention a fcking beast
pattita89 1 year ago
@ACEkilla17 second 0:04 ***
bobrec3GTI 1 year ago
@ACEkilla17 too bad you cant get a cheap one because no one is selling because there is no issues with them
WizBeef 1 year ago
@ACEkilla17
i feel like a g6 !
CrazyNoob221 11 months ago
@ACEkilla17
lolricer
foooooze 11 months ago
@foooooze THE SUPRA IS NOT A RICER ITS A SPORTS CAR, a civic with a body kit and a fart cannon is a ricer
ACEkilla17 11 months ago
@ACEkilla17 also audi tt
LeakerStreet 10 months ago
@LeakerStreet yeah but the auti tt is still around. they still make it.
ACEkilla17 10 months ago
@ACEkilla17 Ah, ok. I shoulda said one day it will be a classic! and I'd like to think my Subaru Legacy will also (I LOVE THAT CAR) Lol.
LeakerStreet 10 months ago
@LeakerStreet yeah id like to think of a future classic is a car that isnt made anymore
ACEkilla17 10 months ago
@ACEkilla17 in my opinion it already is
liltemp666 10 months ago
@ACEkilla17 98 supra pffftt i say Nissan skyline GTR r32, and R34, The r33 wasnt the best but those were are and always will be far better then the supra and to add they are much more rare. Have an astoundingly good racing pedigree to those who know anything about them. Not to mention the 90s Mazda rx7 that was a damn good car too. The supra is big bulky and antill u modify it, its downrite ugly. Well to me at least.
wowzinger 9 months ago
@wowzinger well i disagree i think the supra is great. i like skylines too, but i cant get one because im in america. i like rx7s too. id really like an rx7 with the veilside fortune body kit.
ACEkilla17 9 months ago
@ACEkilla17 You can get skylines in the states, its not cheap though. Otherwise, if you own property in a country where you dont have to pay an arm and a leg to get one you could keep it there and drive it.
64TbirdLandau 9 months ago
@wowzinger
You appear to not know the history of the supra. The Skyline R32 was basically unbeatable in the japanese touring car races for several years in a row. However, the supra was the car that defeated it. The reason it was a legend is because it beat the GT-R. Saying that the R32 is better when the Supra became famous for beating it just sounds silly.
sykku 9 months ago
@sykku really well the group A racing. the GTR was made for was infact finished it stopped because gtrs only won maybe in another racing class the supra won but the skyling has been proven to always beet the supra stock, but when is comes to moding it jsut matter who has more money. The GTR won 29 races in a row.
It won the JGTC Chanmpion ship 4 times in a row. It was also the first car to race at the Nurburgring and get under 8 minites. i found nothing on the supra beating them.
wowzinger 9 months ago
@wowzinger
You just compiled the achievements of the R32 - R34 Skylines. If the supra can be compared to 3 models of the skyline, that just adds more to it's credit. The R32 won JGTC, the R33 was the first car to lap nur in under 8 minutes, and the R34 was the GT-R produced at the same time as the Mark IV Supra to compare. I'm glad that even you respect the Supra by comparing it to 3 models of the GT-R. I'm surprised you are having trouble finding info on the Supra, I recommend a google search.
sykku 9 months ago
@sykku ya ya sure even on wikipedia there isnt a racing section on the supra the supra has no good racing pedagree its fast but not that fast... lol im done with this i know people are smart enough to see whos wright here.
wowzinger 9 months ago
@sykku and i know i did not complet all the achievements not even half of its achievements there is alot more to show. and what facts have you stated on the supras racing pedagre state some of them please please do.
wowzinger 9 months ago
@ACEkilla17 subaru impreza rs 2.5
skylinedrake 9 months ago
both celica and probe are ugly compared to corado and 190e !@#$%... lets take for sample A 190 evolution 2 ,fast ,beautiful looking, and sport spirit !!
bonzo9303204406 1 year ago
tell me that a celica gt-four is not a classic already, please. And if a corrado looks better than a probe or a celica than there's something wrong with my eyes because I really can't see where
Aldergrave 1 year ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
Buy cheap dating solution gettop5.info
NikshiaBremmly 1 year ago
that is another way do 'produce' a classic. funny marketing strategy!
Foxxwild 1 year ago
I've actually owned every one of the cars mentioned here, the Corrado, (and the Scirroco that came before it) the 190E Cossa and the Audi Quattro. The most expensive was the Corrado, which was fairly newish at the time. Not cos rich, just loved the cars - the Audi cost me more to insure than it cost to buy (late 20's). Damn fine metal, all of them. Also had the Sierra Cossa (hideous fuel consumption) and a Porky 924S. Apart from the VW, less than $3000 each!
Capnwabbit 1 year ago
@Capnwabbit Erm, that's pounds, don't have a pound sign on this keyboard, as I'm in Asia now. My favorite? The Audi. First truly powerful car I ever had - and I loved the way you could floor it at lights in the rain (try doing that in the rear wheel drive Porsche...) Today I drive a little 4x4 Kembara, all throbbing 1300cc of it. *sigh*
Capnwabbit 1 year ago
im american
ericsyutubeaccount 1 year ago
@ericsyutubeaccount ok
KillanatorVids 1 year ago
y does the car have window wipers for its light?
misterawesome1234 1 year ago
so what you need to recoginse is 1) good performance, 2) appearance, 3) history, and 4) something about it to start a conversation with.
Mainiac1221 1 year ago
The one car I'm assured will be will be the Acura/Honda NSX
UltimateCydiaSource 1 year ago
@UltimateCydiaSource They're bringing the NSX back - I've got a video about it if you're interested.
I agree with you - in 10/15 years time, the NSX will certainly be a collectable.
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
Any classic American Trucks perhaps in the future? 1980-1990? Suggestions..
CarbonXL 1 year ago
@CarbonXL el camino?
abaraiRenji3 1 year ago
In my opinion, some other future classics:
Plymouth Prowler
Chrysler Crossfire
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 Not the Crossfire - that was such a sales disaster Chrysler were selling them on a spare parts website. And whose bright idea was it to name a car after multi directional gunfire?
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan - personally, I'd buy a crossfire myself if I could pick up the money for one. They're great cars, the main problem is they didn't deliver the sport performance that sports car fans expect in a sports coupe. I believe that the sheer scarcity in 20 years will drive up the price of the Crossfire. Even Fieros are rising in price.
I'd like to add an other entry onto that little list:
Lincoln Mark VIII LSC
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 I'm not sure about the Lincoln - the only thing I know about Lincoln is that their idea of a town car was an enormous saloon that looked like a brick, and powered with a 5.7 litre V8. Perfect after an oil crisis.
The Crossfire was really just a Mercedes SLK in a different body. It was crap to drive, and it had a really cheap and nasty interior. The cabriolet looked OK, but the hardtop was hideous. If you want to buy one, go ahead. But don't expect it to become a classic.
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan - The Lincoln Mark VIII is a 2 door and was the RWD equivalent to the last generation Buick Riviera. It has an Intech 4.6 DOHC producing 295 horsepower. You forget gas prices are about 1/3 here of what they are in Europe.
The Town Car hasn't been powered by the Ford 5.8 since the early 80s.
I personally liked the Crossfire inside and out. The point is it was very different. I do expect it to become a classic.
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 Not really. It was front engined, just like its rivals, rear wheel drive, just like its rivals, it has a V6, just like its rivals, and it was available as a convertible, just like its rivals. How was it different? The point I'm making is that it came out at the same time as the Mazda RX8, Nissan 350Z and the Alfa Romeo Brera. Just because a car doesn't sell very well, doesn't mean it'll be a classic. A Porsche 928 (which was a good car) is today only worth about 20 thousand.
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan - The styling was different. The suspension setup was radically different. The Buick Reatta was a HUGE flop when it was in production, but it's climbing back up in value (it's hard to find one under 3 grand) and the Cadillac Allante was a huge flop but it's hard to find one under 10 grand now. Scarcity helps a vehicle a long way in recouping value. Then, if the vehicle has a following (like Mitsu 3000 GT VR4) It will reclaim value very quickly.
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 That is true, but if the car is scarce because it was rubbish, then that won't make it desirable. Car which were flops at the time have become classics - Jaguar XJ220 and Lancia Thema 8.32 are now considered classics. The Crossfire was awful really. The fact was it was outclassed by pretty much everything. It wasn't as pretty as the Alfa Romeo Brera, it wasn't as fast as the Mazda RX8 and Nissan 350Z, and it wasn't as well made as the Audi TT.
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan - Well, the Alfa wasn't sold here. The Mazda was subject to a recall because the exhaust passes too close to the gas tank and caused fires. The Mazda RX series is the only production car to have problems with fires in every single last generation. The Nissan in my opinion has horrible styling on the outside. Audi TT was a thoroughbred chick's car that was almost 10 K more expensive here. It's an expensive Beetle to me.
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 I'm with you on the TT - but the RX8s sold in Europe never had that problem. They were well received, and even now it is considered to be the best sports coupe for under 30 thousand. The Nissan 350Z is ugly, and it sounds awful, but it is a good drive.
The fact with the Crossfire though, is that it didn't do anything we haven't seen before done much better. In 10 years time, no one is going to be saying "Ooh, I really fancy an old Crossfire."
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan - Maybe not so much in Europe. In America, there are people paying 40-50 grand for an original DeLorean, and that was a ridiculous flop with horrible reliability problems. If people will pay that for the DeLorean, they'll start bidding up Crossfires in a couple decades. I strongly doubt the Crossfire will catch the DeLorean in value, but they'll increase at a faster rate.
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 I think the DeLorean is worth that much, because it's the only car made in Ireland. According to an Irish comedian it drove "like a bus with wooden wheels". For a car to become a classic it has to be rare and interesting. The Crossfire is rare, but purely because no one wanted it. It wasn't interesting though.
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan The Ford Edsel is considered one of the ugliest cars ever, and a huge flop for Ford. Yet, they command huge prices nowadays. So it's a hit and miss thing.
tehmaster690 1 year ago
@tehmaster690 That is true, but what about the Pinto? That was a huge flop as well, and that's not considered a classic.
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan - The Pinto continues to have a bad reputation therefore suffers from decreased demand. The Gremlin competed against it and has much higher value. The Pinto will always suffer like the Yugo and the Chevy Corsaire, because Consumer Reports single-handedly spread the notion that these are "Unsafe at Any Speed"
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 Other cars that were flops that aren't classics - the Chevrolet Corvair. That was so bad, the US government nearly banned rear engined cars.
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan - I've actually driven the Chevy Corvair. However, you have to understand the fucking car to drive it. Each tire has a specific tire pressure then it handles just as well as the MR2 15 years later. It's a great car, it's that people don't understand the freaking car. It was a swing axle design that works great when the tire pressures are dialed in. It's just not a very idiot-friendly car like the stuff you have today.
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 I'm sorry to say this but I really don't agree with you. If it was a great car, why did it cause the US government to consider banning rear engined cars outright? And I've been through some classic car magazines - never once, ever, have I seen a Corvair advertised.
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan - I actually doubt what you're saying is even true. The Corvair was built toward the end of the production run for the DeTomaso Pantera. Also, the Beetle survived past the end of the production run.
I don't think that action was truly ever on the table. Even the idiots at Consumer Reports wouldn't have pushed for that, so I'm calling your statement out as untrue.
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 Even if you don't like to hear it, it is true. I found out about it when I was doing research for my video about the Porsche 928. There was talk of it, but it never got anywhere near being passed.
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan - I don't think it was ever put up for vote. It may have been in consideration in committee, but that's where you squash ideas, before special interests get to them.
Anyways, at least you're not tryin to tell you totally absurd cars like the Saturn SC2 will be classics :-P
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 No probably not. But in a way I'm grateful to the Corvair - the rumours of the ban on rear engined cars meant Porsche made one of my favourite classic cars ever - the 928.
Some cars gain value over time, some lose it. The Jaguar E Type and Corvette Stingray are worth more now than when they were new. But a Peugeot 205 GTI and Ford Pinto aren't worth very much at all. It's very hard to know which is which at the time.
NobleM15fan 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan - Most of the time it becomes more apparent when the cars are about 15 years old. Right now, Cadillac Allante is skyrocketing in value. 2 years ago they were about 8 grand last year 10, now, 12-13. It's unreal. Also, the Ford Taurus SHOs are starting to increase in value slightly (97-up)
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@NobleM15fan The Pinto (And yes, the Corvair) both were produced and sold in very large numbers. In the case of the Edsel, it was supposed to be a middle tier luxury car, and the sales were very underwhelming for Ford, who predicted people would buy it by the dozen. And, of course, it's just not a very good car. The Edsel wasn't a bad car by any stretch, it just looked horrible.
tehmaster690 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 "They're great cars, the main problem is they didn't deliver the sport performance that sports car fans expect in a sports coupe."
that's the nice way of calling it a piece of shit. why would you drop 40k on an unsporty sports car.
CalvinVr6 1 year ago
@CalvinVr6 - It's NOT calling it a POS. There's a difference between a thoroughbred sports car like the Ford Mustang and a sporty car like the Ford Probe or Hyundai Tiburon.
The crossfire (I'm guessing this is what you're talking about) is probably going to drop all the way to 8 gs or so before starting to rebound in value (they're still at 13-15) but these were luxury sporty cars, not entirely unlike the last generation of the Thunderbird. That's what they were to compete against.
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 the ford probe and the tiburon are pieces of shits as well.
CalvinVr6 1 year ago
@CalvinVr6 - Ford Probe, I agree. Tiburon, it depends on the year. The original Tiburon evolved from the Hyundai Scoupe. The Hyundai Scoupe was a sporty-looking Accent that had plenty of mechanical issues in the early 90s. The first generation of the actual Tiburon was insanely ugly, with the typical Hyundai problems. After they changed to their current body style, they did far better mechanically. However, they're definitely not classics.
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
I have an automatic 190E 2.6 inline 6 from 1990 and I hit 120 mph with the thing one night on the freeway after the car has been stored in a warehouse for 8 years. I whooped a GTI and M3 along the way. Later some guy offered me $10,000 for it and told him to go screw himself :) I fucking love my car!
1king4all 1 year ago
1994-1996 Chevrolet Impala SS....American Classics Are The Best
ganee6a 1 year ago
@ganee6a - The problem with that one is it's actually a pretty common car and shares platforms with the old Caprice if I'm not mistaken. Those aren't going to rise in value nearly as rapidly as less common cars. My picks for American future classics going for big bucks on the auction block are going to be Chrysler Crossfire (quite possibly this generation's Cadillac Allante) and Plymouth Prowler (way overpriced, but iconic styling)
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
skyline will def be a classic
PtoKaze13 1 year ago
@PtoKaze13 - Not in America. Maybe in other nations where they're (slightly) more plentiful, and NOT ruined by tuners. The 64 1/2 Mustang is worth about 4X as much when it's stock with #s matching on engine, transmission, carb, and all body panels.
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
@Slipknotyk06 so?
PtoKaze13 1 year ago
@PtoKaze13 - I think they're going to stagnate in value.
Slipknotyk06 1 year ago
this is a program to rich people, most people dont have money even to eat.. shame on you
johnyboy6405 1 year ago