@lutherangamer (continued from comment below) I believe brother Piper's intent is for us to "count everything as loss" for the building up of the true Church. In other words to "risk everything" by putting Christ first in our lives for the building of a Church that follows the principle set forth in Romans 12:2 "Donot be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect."
@lutherangamer Dear brother, I appreciate your word concerning partaking in what the Church does. You are right in saying that individual evangelism looses balance. The the principle established in Mark 6:7 is that evangelism is the work of the corporate body and thus disciples of Christ should be sent out at least "two by two." I think brother Piper would agree with you. In this video he stated "it will cost you your life to build a Church that doesn't live like the rest of the world."
I don't know. I think it's better to just be in a church and partake in what it does. Often times in life there is room for personal initiative, but most of evangelism should come from the church, or it gets too freaky and looses balance. I do like some of Piper's videos, but he is annoying me sometimes with that perpetual smile and the gestures and everything. He also doesn't seem to recognize people's needs. Always just challenge after challenge, without any comforting. No balance.
and what, Mr Piper, will God do to you when those weak in faith are destroyed by believing you.
If you believe in the Holy and Terrible wrath of as Righteous God you may well consider.
HIS commandments are not burdensome, yours are crushing. so i will NOT follow you and you, relying on the will of the flesh, are likely already damned.
this is the opposite error to that of the propserity preachers. you do not know God any more than they do
@Strefanasha Your opinion itself is flawed.First , The weak in faith would never take risks and hence never face problems. It is only the strong willed and full of faith that will go . Second, taking a risk here is not relying on the flesh, it is relying on God's strength to accomplish God's will on earth . If anyone tried to rely on his flesh ( forget about taking risks), he will go nowhere....
No where in the Bible are we told to go out and do risky things with our lives. However, we are told to work quietly and diligently with our hands, and to serve and love our neighbor because we have been set free from sin to do so. God calls some people to take BIG, AMAZING risks, yes. But if you're a stay at home mom changing diaper and raising kids, or a janitor at a elementary school, if you do your job well, you are still serving your neighbor. And people will glorify God.
@RockSprites John Piper is not saying we are to foolishly risk our lives by jumping out in front of a moving bus to see if God performs some miracle to save us. He is saying living out Chirst in our individual lives is a risk. Following the command of Matthew 28:19 & 20 is a very risky thing to do especially in many countries where freedom of religion is limited or non-existant. Sacrificing our time and other resources to advance the kingdom of God no matter what our occupation is a risk.
@scientiavictoria If he should not be allowed on a plane, then wimps like you should not be allowed out of your house...Seriously dude, Why do you even exist ? For what purpose are you alive ? To eat and sleep everyday ?
@subashbala my existence is irrelevant. Life has no purpose other than to copy itself, however one can choose to make something good of the time it takes to complete a generation (a life time). Wimps like me spend our days not reading "holy books" and making this world a better place for rational people.
I don't really understand what the purpose of your argument is...is just because your agnostic that you comment on religious videos? I'm honestly curious because I'm Christian but I don't comment on agnostic videos. :)
Those that watch these videos and pose such arguments are displaying their own insecurity in that they are not sure in what they believe. Thus hope for them is still alive. Please join me and pray for this lost soul that he may be saved.
Cshowbread: Why did you comment back to him? I'm honestly curious! "Well I'm Christian and I dont comment on Agnostic videos," so what? Just because you dont do something doesnt mean someone else shouldnt. Thats like saying "well I dont play baseball so why should you?" haha honestly now!
Satan is working hard so you dont get saved today SMELL THE TULIPS- men will procrastinate so dont urge them let them be lax; soon their life time will run out & they will find themselves n hell.
Today U R still not saved; & U may be in hell before the day is over call on Jesus while He is near to you He stands waiting on you to call Him in as your Lord & Savior
Just as you are; humble yourself -repent to HimCOME TO JESUS AND BE SAVED. Live life eternal; with our Merciful Savior Jesus*
excellent, energizing, and very true! "It will cost you your life to build a church that doesn't live like the rest of the world. You've gotta live like that." Amen, so be it. Thanks for posting!
@lutherangamer (continued from comment below) May the Lord bless you dear brother.
murphythelen 5 months ago
@lutherangamer (continued from comment below) I believe brother Piper's intent is for us to "count everything as loss" for the building up of the true Church. In other words to "risk everything" by putting Christ first in our lives for the building of a Church that follows the principle set forth in Romans 12:2 "Donot be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect."
murphythelen 5 months ago
@lutherangamer Dear brother, I appreciate your word concerning partaking in what the Church does. You are right in saying that individual evangelism looses balance. The the principle established in Mark 6:7 is that evangelism is the work of the corporate body and thus disciples of Christ should be sent out at least "two by two." I think brother Piper would agree with you. In this video he stated "it will cost you your life to build a Church that doesn't live like the rest of the world."
murphythelen 5 months ago
I don't know. I think it's better to just be in a church and partake in what it does. Often times in life there is room for personal initiative, but most of evangelism should come from the church, or it gets too freaky and looses balance. I do like some of Piper's videos, but he is annoying me sometimes with that perpetual smile and the gestures and everything. He also doesn't seem to recognize people's needs. Always just challenge after challenge, without any comforting. No balance.
lutherangamer 5 months ago
and what, Mr Piper, will God do to you when those weak in faith are destroyed by believing you.
If you believe in the Holy and Terrible wrath of as Righteous God you may well consider.
HIS commandments are not burdensome, yours are crushing. so i will NOT follow you and you, relying on the will of the flesh, are likely already damned.
this is the opposite error to that of the propserity preachers. you do not know God any more than they do
Strefanasha 8 months ago
@Strefanasha Your opinion itself is flawed.First , The weak in faith would never take risks and hence never face problems. It is only the strong willed and full of faith that will go . Second, taking a risk here is not relying on the flesh, it is relying on God's strength to accomplish God's will on earth . If anyone tried to rely on his flesh ( forget about taking risks), he will go nowhere....
subashbala 8 months ago
why do something risky,. taking risk is presumption?.
if we are betting on absolute certainties where is the risk
this appeals to the self willed and the daring, the presumptuous and the self righteous.
radical? just like the pharisees. besides re martrydom, look at I Cor 13. martyrdom without love is still worthless.
risky? you can gamble if you like. i am learning the meaning of faith. no risk at all
Strefanasha 8 months ago
"Do Something Risky With Your Life"
The riskiest thing I can think of is being openly Atheist in gun-toting bible-thumping Southern USA.
UrukEngineer 10 months ago
No where in the Bible are we told to go out and do risky things with our lives. However, we are told to work quietly and diligently with our hands, and to serve and love our neighbor because we have been set free from sin to do so. God calls some people to take BIG, AMAZING risks, yes. But if you're a stay at home mom changing diaper and raising kids, or a janitor at a elementary school, if you do your job well, you are still serving your neighbor. And people will glorify God.
RockSprites 11 months ago
@RockSprites John Piper is not saying we are to foolishly risk our lives by jumping out in front of a moving bus to see if God performs some miracle to save us. He is saying living out Chirst in our individual lives is a risk. Following the command of Matthew 28:19 & 20 is a very risky thing to do especially in many countries where freedom of religion is limited or non-existant. Sacrificing our time and other resources to advance the kingdom of God no matter what our occupation is a risk.
lelandpc 5 months ago
This guy sounds like a damn terrorist....
pocketlintFAN 1 year ago
does surfing count?
Pacslyf 1 year ago
Amen to that.
imremogheri 1 year ago
I would not let this dude on an airplane, yells too damn much. Does he talk like that at the dentists too?
scientiavictoria 1 year ago
@scientiavictoria If he should not be allowed on a plane, then wimps like you should not be allowed out of your house...Seriously dude, Why do you even exist ? For what purpose are you alive ? To eat and sleep everyday ?
subashbala 8 months ago
@subashbala my existence is irrelevant. Life has no purpose other than to copy itself, however one can choose to make something good of the time it takes to complete a generation (a life time). Wimps like me spend our days not reading "holy books" and making this world a better place for rational people.
scientiavictoria 8 months ago
I pray that I might become a man who lives his life this way... all the glory to God
paint1487 1 year ago
So why do any of you hate Jesus?
Patternpop 1 year ago
because they love themselves and the world they live for, and cannot deny themselves. They think the cross is foolishness.
Canlander7 1 year ago
@Canlander7
Amen.
Patternpop 1 year ago
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I suppose preaching lies to fools counts as risky eh Jonny boy?
Or is the risky part resurrecting Iron Age value systems and forcing it on unwitting children through the connivance of Scripture?
Your Puritanical zeal and your unflinching pronouncement of damnation for all non-Calvinists isn't risky John. It's ridiculous. There's a difference.
GnosticAgnostic 2 years ago
grow up.
LinkD3 2 years ago
I don't really understand what the purpose of your argument is...is just because your agnostic that you comment on religious videos? I'm honestly curious because I'm Christian but I don't comment on agnostic videos. :)
Cshowbread 2 years ago
Those that watch these videos and pose such arguments are displaying their own insecurity in that they are not sure in what they believe. Thus hope for them is still alive. Please join me and pray for this lost soul that he may be saved.
Hiscall888 2 years ago
Hahaha You pray for me Hiscal and I'll think for you!
bananabread119 2 years ago
Cshowbread: Why did you comment back to him? I'm honestly curious! "Well I'm Christian and I dont comment on Agnostic videos," so what? Just because you dont do something doesnt mean someone else shouldnt. Thats like saying "well I dont play baseball so why should you?" haha honestly now!
...But personally I'm an atheist.
bananabread119 2 years ago
i guess so...but it's only a youtube comment...
Cshowbread 2 years ago
@bananabread119 That's too bad
johnnyaplseed2121 1 year ago
Damnation for all non-Calvinists??????? where did you get that from????
810suited 2 years ago
Satan is working hard so you dont get saved today SMELL THE TULIPS- men will procrastinate so dont urge them let them be lax; soon their life time will run out & they will find themselves n hell.
Today U R still not saved; & U may be in hell before the day is over call on Jesus while He is near to you He stands waiting on you to call Him in as your Lord & Savior
Just as you are; humble yourself -repent to HimCOME TO JESUS AND BE SAVED. Live life eternal; with our Merciful Savior Jesus*
Terri3210 2 years ago
excellent, energizing, and very true! "It will cost you your life to build a church that doesn't live like the rest of the world. You've gotta live like that." Amen, so be it. Thanks for posting!
10minbreak 2 years ago 8
The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.--St. Origin
pngiscool 2 years ago 12
@pngiscool spot on. stephen's stoning is my favorite story in the bible.
bassman1731 1 year ago
@pngiscool "Not so in Japan, where blood of martyrs was nearly the annihilation of the church." -Philip Yancey
nimox57 4 months ago
*****CONVICTION**** as he watches this in air-conditioned comfort.....
mumpty 3 years ago 2
let us pray more each day to our blessed Lord and Savior!
STARNPRODUCTIONS 2 years ago
Jebus be praised
Rockster969 2 years ago
@Rockster969
Who is that?
Patternpop 1 year ago
haha i know right.. we're all so spoiled.
CaptainElysse 2 years ago