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  • what a riot , brilliant quality video.

  • Excellent clip, thanks for sharing.

  • love this vid. Don't suppose you have any vids of aureol herself back in the day? Apart from D200, she was the only 40 i had for haulage on the main line. Cheers for sharing

  • Wish we still had these, only *$%£~"@ 142s now :( Loving the bashers at practically every window... Oh to have lived in the past...

  • @99891268 Mate, I started bashing 40s in 1982 and am still GUTTED that I wasn't born earlier!

  • @99891268 Dont you mean brain-deads hanging out of every window? Mental children who can never grow up.

  • Raw power! A fantastic clip that brings back so many memories.

  • The days when youre ian allen got filled ;-)

  • Those were the days - bloody privatisation = crap railways now in UK. :'-(

  • Oh yes!

    Thank you for capturing the very essence of why the class 40s appealed to me so much in sound and vision!

    The engine noise was a huge factor but the filthy oily overworked state of the late surviving 40s made them even better.

    Please please please someone dig out some footage of 40177 returning on the "Devonian" railtour.The driver was hellbent on destroying the engine and boy what a journey!

    All the best to all you fans of this class past and present.

    R.I.P. Uncle Jack.

  • I have added some photos on Flickr of this actual journey taken from the cab of the loco on the Lincoln to Skegness and back section.Just type in CLASS 40 082 on Flickr and they should be found.Hope they are of interest.:)

  • hard core cammed

  • Great Stuff. The most useful thing with these when they were on Inter-City duty was that they would take time at stations. I used to enjoy taking my bike around Hereford and Worcester and it was always easy to get your bike on and off the train back then. Into a proper Guards Van too. Carriages were so spacious and comfy too with the wood panelling and the huge bouncy seats. :)

  • Would this have gone to Skegness on the Sheffield-Lincoln line ?

  • @bladesman123 Hi,yes it did take this route.

  • More fantastic sounds from a fantastic diesel class!

  • WOW! How I miss the early 80s Bashing scene! I miss these AWESOME locos SO much - today the railways are full of Sh&%e stock - all Multiple Units - even the Flying Bananas are Rare and dying now! :'-(

  • Another dent in the ozone layer.

  • I'd hear this at 3am like clockwork on this camping trip to borth last year, one of these or a class 37. Used the same engine anyway.

    Needless to say it was a surreal experience being woken up by that each morning.

  • Beast! Brings back many happy memories of those summer saturdays between 82 and 86

  • Datz some ugly train

  • The good old days!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Speaking as an ignoramus (but also someone who turned 14 in 1984), why is this such a big deal? Why are there so many trainspotters, and why are so many people waving out the train?

  • @ka4426 I'm guessing that you aren't a train crank?! A number of people of your age at that time will have spent every moment of free time "bashing" (i.e. travelling behind locos in order to have them for haulage). Summer was the peak time and by summer 1984 class 40s were very rare on passenger trains (being freight engines by that time). Therefore, when an engine like 40 082 worked a passenger train it would be wedged full of bashers.

  • I was on this! 14 years old. All the way to Skegness and back.I remember the Toyota pick-up following for a while at the side of the track around the Lincoln area with a tripod mounted video camera in the back! We escaped the grippers at Skegness by hiding in the toilets and getting haulage from the resident 03 shunter. Happy Days!!!!

  • Update: the chap with his arm out of the second window on the roof was holding a microphone and recorded a lot of the journey!

  • @ka4426 if you grew up with it you'd know. Its the reason why Boyzone and Take That are loved by kids of the 90's, yet they were shit.

  • My LORDZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ­ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!

  • Whoa! Thats a bit rough! Fantastic video.

  • Southampton now , used to live in Bromsgrove many moons ago

  • @Goylebasher Ned!

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  • i wish i hadn't thrown my moves books away now. I think i had that from worksop on the way back. ha ha Main man!!

  • The Driver must be in a rush for some Fish and Chips,the way he is driving the beast I know 40s are overcooled but this example must have gotten real hot.

  • A proper train this was and back then, there was proper trains on the lines unlike the crappy DMU/EMU's and the yingers on the freight you get nowadays!

  • love the 40s i worked at crewe loco works an had the task of flame cutting some of them for scrap i stil feel bad today the whistle from the turbos is awsome

  • mega.real engine,proper train from when we had a decent railway.not the plastic crap you get today

  • I was on that !

  • what a Blast from the Past: Bloody Brilliant!

  • Can't beileve I've never seen this vid on here ! was looking up 145 on Luxulyan bank and stumbled over this my ####### lords what a departure ! awesome

  • oh happy days

  • God this brings back memories , just came across this by chance , sure i was on this train , made my hairs stand on end !!!! always remember doing 37015 on this working , cant remember the date lost all my moves books long ago , was one of the best journeys i ever had , excellent video mate

  • @SPLATTERGASM666 where you from?

  • My Lordzzz

  • we always used to get on the cardiff train in crewe station when the 08 came to change the loco because it would pass the sidings and we used to get the numbers....great times..

  • Clagtastic Mate...Love the vid!!

  • well beeble2003 i suppose i could use kaleidoscope to describe the variety of grey er black, er dark grey er thrash smoke coming out of the rear silencer, by gum.

  • I would say that 40145 was just as hellfire as this the other weekend. The ascents of Drumochter and Slochd were absolutely dreadful! There's a good vid on the Tube of it thrashing out of Perth with plenty of clag. An awesome day out, if a bit long at 19 hours. That's an awful lot of whistling!

  • I'm taking 40145 from Carlisle to Inverness and back next weekend. Will it be as hellfire as this d'ya reckon?

  • Should be; I'm on it too!

  • i love that V 16 sound -so unique- sounds like 2 V8's. also love the sound of a V12 EE chunterring a way quiately to it's self. what was the firing order and capacity in litres of the EE V16 and V12?

  • The capacity of the EE V16 is about 275 litres, dont know firing orders though!!

  • Nice TRASH

  • that's not a service train , that's a railtour ! - LOL

  • Tat is the Bo**ox !!!

  • I enjoyed that , i never bagged that loco ,

  • Easily one of the best clips on youtube.

  • The 1970s were grand days! We'd do lots of spotting and then go and have us snap in the station buffet and some days we'd actually go to Skeggie with us slappers

  • I can understand you wanting more effciency. However, look at it from this point of view the trains today are quiet, efficient, and in a word boring. The 50-70s traction from BR gave such a variety of noises that were majestic in sound and appearance. It was a kalidascope of railway traction. And I do have to say a lot of the cars and lorries around the same time were kicking out significantly more crap than that 40 on its own. Have the efficient stuff all you want, but a 40 in full cry, well..

  • vorlonb3: I agree that the railways were much more interesting in the past due to the variety of traction. But I don't think `kaleidoscope' is really the best word to describe it -- everything was plain blue! ;-)

  • it's a f***ing railtour - LOL - I believe there used to be plenty of rows with the TTI's - best sound , sight and smell ever

  • @squeakyadam it wasn't a railtour. At least I don't think it was.

  • ha ha , inhale those fumes you day trippers,ha ha ha.

  • Excellent video

    sw12 - you are so ignorant - these were beasts - great diesels made in the uk, not the american rubbish that EWS use now

  • Now you know why these filthy old polluting locos have been largely consigned to the scrap yard.

  • DICKHEAD

  • Oh dear. Is that the best you can do?

    For the record, I love the engineering that went into these machines, but I now accept that they were inefficient, they were noisy, and they were VERY polluting. Seeing one or two preserved for the sake of posterity is all very fine but Fastkay777, if the American class 66's are rubbish, why are they by far the commonest source of traction in the UK, with lots more on order? Hmm?

  • And why you guys take such pride in the sheer pollution caused by 50's designed locos just beats me.

  • Who gives a shit about pollution.When it finally effects the planet we will be a long time dead..

  • You clearly don't live on a low lying costal area.

    It is also clear that you don't have any children. But there again as one of the hardcore of trainspotters you probably have never had a girlfriend....

  • LOLOLOL I,m not a hardcore trainspotter and i cant stand children,neither can my girlfriend!!!!!

    Clearly a complete DICKHEAD

  • swp12, What's coming out of the exhaust? - Carbon. What is every living thing made from? Carbon atoms. What is diesel, petrol, coal, & oil? carbon fuels. What do forest fires & volcanoes release? Carbon! What do prehistoric petrified forests become? Anyone? Yes! Carbon!

    Let's all put on our lettuce shoes & our muesli shirts, slip on our trousers made from potato peelings, & go & hug a tree somewhere while singing kumbaya!

    We're all doomed! Doomed Capt Mainwaring!

  • Hmmm - no, sorrry you are a bit off the mark here. Coming out of the exaust is not Carbon, but Carbon Dioxide. There is something of a difference really in that the latter is a greenhouse gas that is warming up the planet ...I'm sure you have heard all the rest..

    The exhaust also throws out sulphur compounds, gasses that contain heavy metals such as Lead and Cadmium and lots of other very toxic stuff.

    If your level of intelligence is all that we have to save the planet then god help us all.

  • swp12, Perhaps more modern diesels are fitted with catalytic converters to keep other pollutants under control. My comments, heavily sarcastic I admit, related to the fact that you seemed to be referring to the black smoke from the exhaust, which is certainly unsightly, but is just carbon, & has no effect upon the wider environment in the global sense that you mean it. Modern diesel fuel has virtually no sulphur in it, & no lead whatsoever.

  • Modern diesel may be cleaner, but this is exhaust coming from diesel produced in the 80's. And even so called clean engines produce CO2.

    If it is all so harmless, why do old exhaust systems need to be treated as toxic waste? The reason, to save your brain cells is that the deposits and soot are full of heavy metals, dioxins and all sorts of crap.

    Get over the fact that "clag" has had its day thank goodness.

  • Well, I'm not actually a fan of clag! It just looks a lot worse than it actually is. Take the petrol engine for example. The emissions are invisible to the eye, but until the advent of the catalytic converter & cleaner modern fuels, petrol had lead added to it to prevent detonation. It produced carbon monoxide, a lethal but odourless gas, - & it contained benzene, one of the most carcinogenic substances known to man. None of the above apply to diesels, but diesel emissions are more visible.

  • I'm certainly not suggesting that diesel emissions are wholesome, but some perspective is necessary. Studies conducted over a period of 40 years within the heavy diesel industry, - among people who work around & breathe diesel fumes daily, - showed that there were no incidences of cancer or respiratory, or any other affliction, greater than that of the general population. So don't worry yourself unduly about this.

  • Hmmm. Very interesting. I'm fascinated as to the sources of these "studies" and who conducted them. Can you let me know?

  • They were gleaned from a UK car magazine called Diesel Car, - to refute the myths put about by 'petrolheads' about the flawed perception that diesels are more poisonous than the petrol engine.

    Diesel Car has been in circulation since 1987, & the details of the scientific report from which I got this information are from memory only, so I can't give you more detail. But you are skeptical, of course. would you accept the analysis however much detail I could provide? Much easier to believe dogma.

  • I think you must be taking lessons on how to miss the point.

    What I am saying is that these old 50's designed locos are long past it, and have rightly been consigned to the scrapyard. There is so much romantic nonsense about how "good" they were - well fine, go to a preserved line and watch them chug up and down for a while if that suits you, but don't join the strange people that want to bring these filthy, polluting, inefficient old things back to mainstream traffic.

  • I'm not defending these quaint old things so far as reintroducing them to main line traffic. Neither steam nor modern diesel electrics, could ever hope of approaching the performance level of the electric loco with 5 times the power. In their technological infancy, the diesel/electric wasn't that reliable either. But we can all find a bit of room for nostalgia, can't we?

  • our debate does raise one question, though. Feeling as you do, why did you click on this video in the first place if you despise everything these locos represent?

  • I don't despise them at all! I think they represent great engineering designed and built at a difficult time. But my point all along is that these locos and the railway that they represent has had its day. What I do despise is the attitude of "because it is old, it must be good". It is a shame that modern trains do seem boring but they are cleaner and much more efficient despite the stupid circumstances under which they are forced to operate, and I do regret that few of them are built in the UK.

  • Fair point. At least we ended up in agreement about something!

  • Top men and hellfire? You lads sound like fucking football hooligans.

  • I wish they would re-create days like this with a blue/grey set of MK1s. The railtours all seem to have the widest array of coaching stock which kind of spoils the scene.

  • This brings back some of my best memories of the early 80s. I was on this to Skeg (1E67) and then back to Man Pic. The train was absolutely packed with bashers and many of the top men.On the way there is a long stretch of track with the local roads running alongside. Every window was full with bashers flailing to bemused drivers. The ticket inspectors were out in full force from front and back. All the "F"ers including Wilderbeast who I was with were working hard to get out of paying.

  • Bet the ammeter needle went off the scale :)

  • Brings a tear to my eye this does. If I could relive ANY part of my youth it would be my glory bashing years of '82-'85. How genuinely sad my mates and I were when the 40s eventually all went. Surpassed in grief (for us anyway) even the passing of the Deltics. Who can forget the splendour of these machines, or of double-headed 37s to Aberystwyth? Or class 20s to Skeg? My Lordz! An even bigger tear comes to my eye when I think about what today's rail enthusiasts have on offer......

  • Strangely, we get by, yet I wish I could of been there to sample these beasts in thier prime. It really does make you feel different when you are on a droplight behind a 40 now though, especially when 145 is on tour.

  • Indeed it does. I was behind 40145 on the controversial Capital Whistler tour down the ECML in November and this was the first time I'd been behind a 40 since 40122 on the legendary 15:55 Leeds-Carlisle sometime in 1985. It was pure magic, and heads-out-the-window nostalgia. To paraphrase the Zep, the sound remains the same. It was amazing to see the speeds she was capable of despite hauling 12 laden coaches and a duff (boo, hiss). Who needs trams or 'electras'?

  • WELL SAID 4SRKT.

  • @4SRKT where are you from?

  • Look at that glorious clag.......good ol' English Electric.......lol!

  • HELLFIRE!! *****

  • Rail privatisation is a disaster than can be traced back to the Government's make railways pay scheme in the 1980s when those DMU-type powered carriages ousted loco-hauled trains. You can replace just a broken-down loco with hauled carriages but with DMUs you just have to replace a whole train or cancel a train service. No wonder why train services are being canceled a lot nowadays.

  • Hi mate, glad you can appreciate it, its another bit of our past that is now but a memory......

  • Does this back some of the best memories I had in the early 80s. I remember this day and was on it to Skeg and then back to Man Picadilly. What a day, the train was packed throughout with bashers and the top men. On the way to Skeg the roads ran by the line for miles with everyone flailing with drivers totally dumbstruck as every window was full. I remember the ticket inspectors having arguments everywhere due to there being so many "F"ers. Wilderbeast being one of these.

  • @Oily1966 those f's needed some good frog

  • What a beast, I missed the 40s on mainline duties, only every having D200 on a service train in the late 1980s. Oh well, there's always the ELR.

  • way cool! do these loco's have a gear box? sounded like the engineer was shifting! loved it! even more smoke than our alco's! thanks

  • Just some wheel slip!

  • I wish there were more classic locos being used on Network Rail 2day instead of those "sheds".

  • Sheds can be good sometimes, but there is no harm in bringing older locos like the 40 back into proper mainline usage, not just railtours. I mean if you think about it, the 37's are still going.

  • wow...beast, deffo one of the best Clag and Thrash videos on You Tube. Thanks for posting this one mate!

  • It was repainted the week after and I believe it went on 40086 the Saturday after? It'll be with the front-window man who put it on at Piccadilly. "Bag-of" from Retford.

  • "I PAINTED THAT HEADBOARD!!!!!" - Unbelievable - Brings back memories!

  • Dreadful! Do you still have it?

  • Brings a tear to a clag drenched eye!

  • Look at all that hapy veg out the windows as well =P

  • Someone invent a time machine. Please.

  • I notice the loco throttled down several times as it pulled away. Was this caused by wheel-slip or the notching on the power controller? Does anyone know the answer? Thanks.

    p.s. this has to be my favourite loco vids, that was one hacked-off driver!

  • My Dad did most of the filming up until the end of 1984 and it was my job the wind the driver up to give the loco some stick, which they were usually more than happy to do!

    I think the loco was wheel slipping on this clip, though an overload was more than possible at times!

  • What did annoy the driver?

  • Fantastic! Every video I see from the 80's there's always people hanging out of Mk.1 coaches! Haha

  • some serious clag there amazing to see the 40's in action at sheffield. i remember having to goto that big building in background sheaf house for cautioning after gettin caught tresspassing on the railway back in the day :P have you got any more at sheffield? thanks for ur vidz!!

  • What a F'in Beast !!! Just goes to show what a fabulous loco EE Made , the shear noise from that loco just sends shivers down my spine , just listen to that Rad Fan thrash too !!! total Hell !!

  • I dont think u can beat the look of dirty british rail blue.

    Reminds me of when I was a kid.

  • Brilliant !!

  • beasts!

  • Brilliant clip! Wish I'd have been 13 then (and not 2 months old as I was in 1984). Classic hellfire at it's best!

  • What a shot, what can I say but Megga...

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