Biggest mistake was to attack Afghanistan OR Iraq instead of Saudi-Arabia.
17 out of 19 terrorists on 9/11 were Saudi-"Citizens", and you cant be a citizen of this nation unless you are related to the Saudi Clan. The Wahhab Madrasses that spawn the Taliban are financed by Saudi donations.
Saudi try to bribe their conservative extremists to spark violence abroad instead of punishing them for murder, rape and corruption.
Welcome to War for Profit and Excess!! We had no need to invade Iraq. It was a major military and political mistake. These mistakes have resulted in much America and Iraq blood and will add $3/4 of a trillion dollars that American taxpayers must pay. We pay BLACKWELL contractors $150,000. No one is happy, safe or free of terror in Iraq. We have made more terrorist then we have killed. Iraq will go down in history as a bigger mistake than Vietnam.
You make some excellent points. Economists say the total cost will be over $2 Trillion.
It looks like Pat Tillman was going to make the same point about getting the job done in Afghanistan rather than sending all the resourcess to Iraq when they murdered him.
If you don't know about Colonel Westhusing, his is an interesting case.
He was a West Point professor who believed in the war and volunteered to go to Iraq.
Once there, Colonel Westhusing saw how the Carlyle Group's Isis contractors in Iraq were ripping off the American taxpayer and murdering Iraqi civilians.
He "committed suicide" 1 month before he was to return and report on what he saw.
Very interesting, people need to learn more about this man. Research articles on the internet. A book that will bring more information to light on Ted's inexplicable and tragic death and open many more questions and issues that will hopefully stimulate more interest in why he died and why it should be further investigated. And your interest, as US citizens, in seeing justice done. The title is "Blood Money" and it is a book by by LA Times Special Investigator T. Christian Miller
are america going to give iraq 2 trillion or iraq gives america 2 trillion i thikn they should give iraq because they killed thousands and they came from all the way just for stupid oil
After thousands of dead Americans and 25,000 wounded we are no safer or more free. Both Parties used 9/11 for political positioning for more votes and to increase military spending for profits. And why do we believe all Islamic People are alike. Ron Regan and George Bush SR. understood the benefits to America of NOT occupying a middle east country. They were smart and let these factions kill each other which gave them less time to kill us.
Both Parties made a costly military and political mistake to invade IRAQ. Why would we fear some one who's military we crushed within 30 days in 1991 from the air? Iraq was not behind 9/11. Iraq was the enemy of IRAN. Iran's Revolutionary Guards fought alongside Afghan rebels who helped U.S. forces topple Taliban. We have wasted $3/4 of a trillion in IRAQ and United former Islamic factions againest the USA.
America had most world leaders support after 9/11. Even our invasion of Afganistan was welcomed by Iran. But an Iraq invasion was a waste of blood, money and made the M-East less stable. Bush's father made the right decision in 1991 after curshing the Iraq military. He wisely choose not to occupy Iraq. This has lasted longer than WWII and America is broke!!!
You make excellent points. Many of us Hawks on Terrorism like Bush's hard-line...but I draw the line on Nation Building and wasting all this blood and money in IRAQ when we could have stopped in Afghanistan and only faced one Vietnam. Iran even helped the northern allience fight the Taliban. Bush Jr. has now united the middle-east againest us.
EchelonMonitor, I have been saying the same thing for 5 years. I have been telling my family and friends, they don't believe me. I tell almost everyone I know and try to spread the word hear on youtube and any other blog I happen to be on. No one listens. Some people are not intelligent enough to understand a plan like this. Some people, like my mom, don't want it to be true, so they don't believe it. But I see beyond the vail of 9/11
Show them the news clips of Bush Sr. attending a Carlyle Group stockholders meeting along with Bin Ladin's uncle on September 11, 2001.
Show them the info on Col. Westhusing and how USIS is part of the Carlyle Group which made and is still making big bucks in Iraq.
Many of Bush Jr.'s decisions led directly to increased profits for his family, but no one has questioned the obvious conflict of interest--show them the information on that.
Show them Iraq for Sale and Taxi To The Dark Side.
Yes, it's still surprising, though, considering their close ties to Bush Sr., James Baker and Kissinger.
Maybe Bush Sr., James Baker and Kissinger are also distancing themselves from the Bush White House, lol.
James Baker represented the Saudis in the lawsuit against the victims of 9/11 -- I can't forgive him for that, and he should have absolutely nothing to do with our government policy.
We are really there to protect Saudi Arabia, as well. So if the radical Muslims rise up, we can jump over the boarder and save the royals and the oil fields. The royal family needs to try to keep the peace with them, so this is why they are bashing us. If the war ended sooner, they would not be saying this. Now, it is getting ugly, so they are trying to save their own asses.
i.e. to punish the house of Saud for the violence, rape and corruptions it has committed and is still unrelentingly committing.
BusterXXXL 2 years ago
Biggest mistake was to attack Afghanistan OR Iraq instead of Saudi-Arabia.
17 out of 19 terrorists on 9/11 were Saudi-"Citizens", and you cant be a citizen of this nation unless you are related to the Saudi Clan. The Wahhab Madrasses that spawn the Taliban are financed by Saudi donations.
Saudi try to bribe their conservative extremists to spark violence abroad instead of punishing them for murder, rape and corruption.
BusterXXXL 2 years ago
Welcome to War for Profit and Excess!! We had no need to invade Iraq. It was a major military and political mistake. These mistakes have resulted in much America and Iraq blood and will add $3/4 of a trillion dollars that American taxpayers must pay. We pay BLACKWELL contractors $150,000. No one is happy, safe or free of terror in Iraq. We have made more terrorist then we have killed. Iraq will go down in history as a bigger mistake than Vietnam.
investortownhall 4 years ago 2
You make some excellent points. Economists say the total cost will be over $2 Trillion.
It looks like Pat Tillman was going to make the same point about getting the job done in Afghanistan rather than sending all the resourcess to Iraq when they murdered him.
Have you seen the film "Iraq For Sale"?
EchelonMonitor 4 years ago
If you don't know about Colonel Westhusing, his is an interesting case.
He was a West Point professor who believed in the war and volunteered to go to Iraq.
Once there, Colonel Westhusing saw how the Carlyle Group's Isis contractors in Iraq were ripping off the American taxpayer and murdering Iraqi civilians.
He "committed suicide" 1 month before he was to return and report on what he saw.
EchelonMonitor 4 years ago
Very interesting, people need to learn more about this man. Research articles on the internet. A book that will bring more information to light on Ted's inexplicable and tragic death and open many more questions and issues that will hopefully stimulate more interest in why he died and why it should be further investigated. And your interest, as US citizens, in seeing justice done. The title is "Blood Money" and it is a book by by LA Times Special Investigator T. Christian Miller
investortownhall 4 years ago
*should be USIS contractors
EchelonMonitor 3 years ago
are america going to give iraq 2 trillion or iraq gives america 2 trillion i thikn they should give iraq because they killed thousands and they came from all the way just for stupid oil
syrag1994 4 years ago
After thousands of dead Americans and 25,000 wounded we are no safer or more free. Both Parties used 9/11 for political positioning for more votes and to increase military spending for profits. And why do we believe all Islamic People are alike. Ron Regan and George Bush SR. understood the benefits to America of NOT occupying a middle east country. They were smart and let these factions kill each other which gave them less time to kill us.
investortownhall 4 years ago
Both Parties made a costly military and political mistake to invade IRAQ. Why would we fear some one who's military we crushed within 30 days in 1991 from the air? Iraq was not behind 9/11. Iraq was the enemy of IRAN. Iran's Revolutionary Guards fought alongside Afghan rebels who helped U.S. forces topple Taliban. We have wasted $3/4 of a trillion in IRAQ and United former Islamic factions againest the USA.
investortownhall 4 years ago
America had most world leaders support after 9/11. Even our invasion of Afganistan was welcomed by Iran. But an Iraq invasion was a waste of blood, money and made the M-East less stable. Bush's father made the right decision in 1991 after curshing the Iraq military. He wisely choose not to occupy Iraq. This has lasted longer than WWII and America is broke!!!
investortownhall 4 years ago
And yet they're still determined to have a permanent presence in Iraq.
There are 14 permanent bases in Iraq with everything from Pizza huts to fitness centers.
The Bush family is making a fortune off the war through the Carlyle Group, and Georgy Boy is determined to make sure those profits keep flowing.
Why no one (except me?) is talking about the Bush's war profiteering is beyond me.
EchelonMonitor 4 years ago
You make excellent points. Many of us Hawks on Terrorism like Bush's hard-line...but I draw the line on Nation Building and wasting all this blood and money in IRAQ when we could have stopped in Afghanistan and only faced one Vietnam. Iran even helped the northern allience fight the Taliban. Bush Jr. has now united the middle-east againest us.
investortownhall 4 years ago
He did claim to be a Uniter, didn't he?
Pboccuti 2 years ago
name the shops there are the bases going to stay there for ever
syrag1994 4 years ago
EchelonMonitor, I have been saying the same thing for 5 years. I have been telling my family and friends, they don't believe me. I tell almost everyone I know and try to spread the word hear on youtube and any other blog I happen to be on. No one listens. Some people are not intelligent enough to understand a plan like this. Some people, like my mom, don't want it to be true, so they don't believe it. But I see beyond the vail of 9/11
Why did the Soviets invade Afghan. Maybe for oil?
Pboccuti 2 years ago
Show them the news clips of Bush Sr. attending a Carlyle Group stockholders meeting along with Bin Ladin's uncle on September 11, 2001.
Show them the info on Col. Westhusing and how USIS is part of the Carlyle Group which made and is still making big bucks in Iraq.
Many of Bush Jr.'s decisions led directly to increased profits for his family, but no one has questioned the obvious conflict of interest--show them the information on that.
Show them Iraq for Sale and Taxi To The Dark Side.
EchelonMonitor 2 years ago
They know Bush and friends days are limited,so they have to start the flip flop to kiss ass as usual.
nosmokinghere 5 years ago
Yes, it's still surprising, though, considering their close ties to Bush Sr., James Baker and Kissinger.
Maybe Bush Sr., James Baker and Kissinger are also distancing themselves from the Bush White House, lol.
James Baker represented the Saudis in the lawsuit against the victims of 9/11 -- I can't forgive him for that, and he should have absolutely nothing to do with our government policy.
EchelonMonitor 5 years ago
We are really there to protect Saudi Arabia, as well. So if the radical Muslims rise up, we can jump over the boarder and save the royals and the oil fields. The royal family needs to try to keep the peace with them, so this is why they are bashing us. If the war ended sooner, they would not be saying this. Now, it is getting ugly, so they are trying to save their own asses.
dontTouchMyFknRadio 5 years ago
Thanks for posting this.
touristindc 5 years ago
why?Becasue you saw one of the sons of Ibn Saud? I saw more sons of Ibn Saud then that. I saw:
Turki (eldest son), Saud (next king), Faisal, Fahd, Abdullah, Khaled, Badr, Bandar, Majed, Abdul Majeed, Sattam, Muqrin, Nayef, Talal, Nawwaf, Sultan, Turki (II) Ahmed, Abdel Rahman, Salman, Mishaal,
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