From Wikipedia: Robert Zubrin (born April 19, 1952) is an American aerospace engineer and author, best known for his advocacy of the manned exploration of Mars. He was the driving force behind Mars Direct—a proposal intended to produce significant reductions in the cost and complexity of such a mission. The key idea was to use the Martian atmosphere to produce oxygen, water, and rocket propellant for the surface stay and return journey.
As Stanislav Petrov was in the Soviet Air Defense Force his job was to intercept the missiles not to fire his country's missiles back. And he wouldn't drink vodka on his duty and a satellite net can't be confused by just the sun. It is as nonsense as any SciFi. However I believe the series will be interesting.
@alr0lbxrl Thanks for your comment, but some corrections are in order. First, it is absolutely important to keep in mind the point of view of the character telling the story. The vodka line was sarcasm. But it was indeed Petrov's call that would have initiated a retaliatory strike. Interception was never possible. Also, the system was most certainly fooled by the angle of sunlight reflecting off clouds, as the sats worked by detecting the flares of missile contrails.
@alr0lbxrl I disagree (obviously ;). It has nothing to do with sci-fi. he Norton character is trying to illustrate how a single person can make a positive difference by not doing what he's supposed to. The 1983 Petrov incident evokes that, whereas the Cuban Missile Crisis does not. And since the Petrov incident is less well-known, it makes it a better story to boot! Your mileage may vary, obviously.
@pioneeronetv I've just read about Petrov's case. Hmm, very interesting but I think anyone would do the same in such situation. And he couldn't press The Red Button on his own but just report about alert from a satellite and a ground radar that doesn't confirm it.
@alr0lbxrl One would *hope* anyone would do the same, but the point is he exercised his own judgement instead of following procedure. And even if he didn't have the literal red button at his finger tips, a report from him that missiles are incoming would all but assure a retaliatory strike. By the time there was ground radar confirmation it would be too late. It defeats the point of early warning.
@pioneeronetv In 80-s there was a story spread as a rumour: at an early warning station they ( no names ) got a signal from a satellite which meant it sees five red points which may be or not five missiles launched. They called up by phone to radar station and asked if they see the missiles, they replied "nothing". Then they reported to superiors. Later journalists made THEMANWHOSAVEDTHEWORLD sensation out of it. So now I know their commanding officer's name.
@alr0lbxrl A good account of the incident is in the prologue for a book called 'The Dead' Hand by David E. Hoffman. Starts on page 6. YouTube won't let me post the link but it's excerpted on the NYTimes website dated September 22, 2009.
I'm not big into independent stuff like this, but I must say I am impressed with this. Really great show here. Hope you guys continue it.
H1N1Conspiracynews 1 month ago
From Wikipedia: Robert Zubrin (born April 19, 1952) is an American aerospace engineer and author, best known for his advocacy of the manned exploration of Mars. He was the driving force behind Mars Direct—a proposal intended to produce significant reductions in the cost and complexity of such a mission. The key idea was to use the Martian atmosphere to produce oxygen, water, and rocket propellant for the surface stay and return journey.
joshbernhard 3 months ago
As Stanislav Petrov was in the Soviet Air Defense Force his job was to intercept the missiles not to fire his country's missiles back. And he wouldn't drink vodka on his duty and a satellite net can't be confused by just the sun. It is as nonsense as any SciFi. However I believe the series will be interesting.
alr0lbxrl 5 months ago
@alr0lbxrl Thanks for your comment, but some corrections are in order. First, it is absolutely important to keep in mind the point of view of the character telling the story. The vodka line was sarcasm. But it was indeed Petrov's call that would have initiated a retaliatory strike. Interception was never possible. Also, the system was most certainly fooled by the angle of sunlight reflecting off clouds, as the sats worked by detecting the flares of missile contrails.
pioneeronetv 5 months ago
@pioneeronetv I see, The Caribbean Crisis story would be more appropriate, but it wouldn't be a SciFi then.
alr0lbxrl 5 months ago
@alr0lbxrl I disagree (obviously ;). It has nothing to do with sci-fi. he Norton character is trying to illustrate how a single person can make a positive difference by not doing what he's supposed to. The 1983 Petrov incident evokes that, whereas the Cuban Missile Crisis does not. And since the Petrov incident is less well-known, it makes it a better story to boot! Your mileage may vary, obviously.
pioneeronetv 5 months ago
@pioneeronetv I've just read about Petrov's case. Hmm, very interesting but I think anyone would do the same in such situation. And he couldn't press The Red Button on his own but just report about alert from a satellite and a ground radar that doesn't confirm it.
alr0lbxrl 5 months ago
@alr0lbxrl One would *hope* anyone would do the same, but the point is he exercised his own judgement instead of following procedure. And even if he didn't have the literal red button at his finger tips, a report from him that missiles are incoming would all but assure a retaliatory strike. By the time there was ground radar confirmation it would be too late. It defeats the point of early warning.
pioneeronetv 5 months ago
@pioneeronetv In 80-s there was a story spread as a rumour: at an early warning station they ( no names ) got a signal from a satellite which meant it sees five red points which may be or not five missiles launched. They called up by phone to radar station and asked if they see the missiles, they replied "nothing". Then they reported to superiors. Later journalists made THEMANWHOSAVEDTHEWORLD sensation out of it. So now I know their commanding officer's name.
alr0lbxrl 5 months ago
@alr0lbxrl A good account of the incident is in the prologue for a book called 'The Dead' Hand by David E. Hoffman. Starts on page 6. YouTube won't let me post the link but it's excerpted on the NYTimes website dated September 22, 2009.
pioneeronetv 5 months ago
I take it that the doctor with an interest in Mars is based partially upon Robert Zubrin?
If so, he's doing a good job.
phantasmalx 6 months ago
@phantasmalx Yep, Zubrin was the inspiration for the character.
joshbernhard 6 months ago
@joshbernhard whos Zubrin?
Turkolmpiatmuhabbeti 3 months ago
Thanks for the upload! Ill be sure to tell people in Australia about this awsum show
bosshogg519 8 months ago
Downloaded it during a Piratebay promotion , nice to see episodes 2 ,3 , and 4 .
nigelipad 8 months ago
"YOU" is a popular name in this series
newera4my 9 months ago
Soooooo good!
losthaole87 9 months ago
Badass
MattFreakinBoy 10 months ago
Cool show, cool ideas! I love that its freeware. Goodjob guys for not being a slave to corporations and greed lol!
Balgore8 10 months ago
Awesome!
tommytalks77 10 months ago