I have all of Dogwood's album and have to say this is probably their worst song(excluding songs from the album ''this is not a new album''). I dont know why they made a video for it.
Man, this is the kind of stuff that got me into rock music in the first place. Back in the day when I didn't listen to any music and my aunt used to record episodes of "G-Rock" and "Real Videos" for me and stuff like this is the reason I got into rock in the first place. MAN, this song is nostalgic.
hey in a few weeks check out my home page i'm going to put up some 90's Christian punk like "The Undecided, Two Timer, Average Joe Aspiring" and stuff along those lines. I have Vroom up and by the end of today I should have "Legends Of Rodeo" and "Recess Theory". It's the same band just changed the name's, also I forgot to mention that it will only be the studio version because i don't have video of them but I want to get them out there. my youtube name is "1thess523".
I was a christian for 15 years. And of course I will listen to what anyone has to say, but i've already restled with these issues in my mind for years and put them to bed a long time ago. Maybe a closed mind is not required for Christianity, but its certainly prevalent. Christianity is predicated upon the idea that one must first accept the truth without question and then find the supporting evidence. That to me is quintessential closed-mindedness.
Actually you should research the truth, many atheist have come to Christ that way, yes there is faith involved but God won't be offended if you question and seek, How old are you?
I have and I do research the truth. I would argue that the majority of the atheists who convert after reading the bible or through other means of seeking the supposed "truth" of christianity probably put very little thought into becoming an atheist. All of the atheists I know were christians at one point in time before researching the truth and then subsequently deconverting. I spent many years seeking and asking. I'm 25, and yourself?
@johngeetar , I am 35, So when you were 10yrs old you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and for 15yrs you lived for Christ reading your bible surrounding your self and fellowshipping with other Christian's as well as having a regular prayer life, you then decided that it was false and denounced Christ and in turn greaved the Holy Spirit which is the unforgiveable sin according to the bible. But you know as saddening as that is that's the free will we all have. Take care
I was born again when I was 5. I am the son of a preacher and grew up doing all of the things you listed. I will concede that its possible for the god of the bible to be real, as well as many other gods. I simply find it highly improbable given the fact that his attributes logically contradict each other. I also find it improbable that a loving god would torture me infinitely for a finite life of sin. For a god so big on forgiveness, he has missed his own mark.
(cont) God's style of free will is an interesting one. It's somewhat similar to taking a child into a toy store and telling him he can pick any toy he wants but if he doesn't pick the lego set he will be punched in the face non stop for the duration of his life. The more I look at this twisted justice system that god has supposedly set up, the more I wonder how I ever believed it was truth. If the god of infinite agape love sees fit to torture me forever for seeking truth, so be it.
Look we can go back and forth on the issue but here's the bottom line, you know this discession you have made and you know about the consequence's there are for that choice. Yes God is loving but He is also just, so if He said those who choose not to accept the gift of HIS SON's death for our sake they will be seperated from HIM for eternity even thought "it is not His will that any should parish" then that's what is going to be or else HE would be a liar. Well take care.
I know what you are telling me the consequences are. However, just because the bible says so doesn't make it true. The bible was democratically assembled by fallible men who decided what was and wasn't divinely inspired. I fail to see the love in eternal torture. That's not love, that's hate. So if you want to continue to worship an evil bloodthirsty misogynistic tyrant who tortures anyone who is too rational to believe a silly storybook, more power too you. Count me out.
I hope the same for you. I remember having a lot of doubts about mid high school. I was always asking a lot of questions and I never got sufficient answers. I was always told to pray about it and meditate on the bible, which I did regularly. After years of this I began to realize that it wasn't me that wasn't seeking hard enough. More and more doubts arose and I finally accepted that it was ok not to believe.
Omniscience and omnipotence. For a variety of reasons. If God knows what will happen, he is powerless to change it. And of course the ever so classic "Can God make a rock so big he can't lift it?". Or according to Homer Simpson, "Can God microwave a burrito so hot he can't eat it?" Of course we could say that God doesn't live in our realm and isn't subject to our logic. Fine, but we begin to approach a God which is indistinguishable from no God at all.
And of course, a difference which makes no difference is no difference at all. How can we even pretend to ascribe any sort of attributes to describe the ontology of a being we ourselves can't even fathom? The bible at its best simply anthropomorphizes God rather weakly. And as I've stated before, omnibenevolence isn't easily reconcilable with the doctrine of hell.
The only that's sad is how you look down upon someone who lives life his own way. If there is a kind god, I'm sure he or she or it would be happy with someone who is using their own brain to think for themself.
@johngeetar , it's funny how people classify us as closed minded but yet the non-christian doesn't want to hear what we have to say!!!! kind of sounds closed minded huh, Look I will listen to people but I will stand on my convictions, does that mean I am closed minded. When I am talking to people and they have a different belief I don't just say I am sorry but I can't listen to you because I am closed minded. Do you listen to what Christans have to say?
*Love Dogwood* - I have been following them since the beginning with "Good o'l days"...You can't get better...now I can finally see the videos...Thank's for the post!!!!! *BTW* The band is way better live than on this video...(Remember, they don't have $500,000 backign them).
I have all of Dogwood's album and have to say this is probably their worst song(excluding songs from the album ''this is not a new album''). I dont know why they made a video for it.
Bigwig661983 11 months ago
Dogwood will always be off the freakin chain <3
xhisbloodx 1 year ago
Yeah dude, you like some good punk so you're pretty much automatically cool in my book.
jmiller5796 1 year ago
Fuck, I love this shit!!!!!
Bringz me bak a bit:P
circababe23 2 years ago
there's something about his voice that blends in great with this type of music which is awesome
AlexTheDrummer110 2 years ago
it does blend, but he wasnt meant to be a singer, he sings from the wrong place. It fits, I luv it, but not meant.
circababe23 2 years ago
aww i miss these vatos
onlybyhisgrace09 2 years ago
Serio, me too! Comin' out with an album soon, I believe.
RockaZtubeHD 2 years ago 2
NO WAY! really?
onlybyhisgrace09 2 years ago
yeah, tell me about it
crsdask8er 2 years ago
Dogwood is awesome!
xpunisherx 2 years ago
holy crap. i feel like i'm in 6th grade again
xadamritterx 2 years ago 6
Man, this is the kind of stuff that got me into rock music in the first place. Back in the day when I didn't listen to any music and my aunt used to record episodes of "G-Rock" and "Real Videos" for me and stuff like this is the reason I got into rock in the first place. MAN, this song is nostalgic.
ReneidKlein 2 years ago
I never listne to christen music at all even though I am christ follower, but I remember listening to these guys since I was like 5.
ethanmiles20 3 years ago
hey in a few weeks check out my home page i'm going to put up some 90's Christian punk like "The Undecided, Two Timer, Average Joe Aspiring" and stuff along those lines. I have Vroom up and by the end of today I should have "Legends Of Rodeo" and "Recess Theory". It's the same band just changed the name's, also I forgot to mention that it will only be the studio version because i don't have video of them but I want to get them out there. my youtube name is "1thess523".
1thess523 3 years ago
More that conquerors is old-school dogwood?
saintmichaelsarmoury 3 years ago
god rules and dogwood knows how to tell it ecpesialy in biuldind a better me.
WNxSparky 3 years ago
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if they ahd a better vocalist theyd be amazing
east12th 3 years ago
are fucking kidding me check out his voice in the songs preschool days and refined defiance! perfect thats all i can say
thirsk66 3 years ago
Muito legal esse video,dogwood é muito bom !!Jesus is my life !!
marcoazeitona03 3 years ago
you gotta love a christian band who is open minded enough to be influenced by bad religion and nofx!
johnnythesailorman 3 years ago 2
They only influenced them in a musical sense. Lyrically, there's no comparison because Dogwood's lyrics were Christ centered.
Rawk4Life 3 years ago
of course...
johnnythesailorman 3 years ago
yeah because 9 times out of 10 christians are the most closed minded people on the planet.
johngeetar 2 years ago 2
word
johnnythesailorman 2 years ago
@johngeetar I agree most are but that doesnt mean that you steriotype
dogododo 2 years ago
I see your point, although in my opinion closed mindedness is required in order to be a christian.
johngeetar 2 years ago
@johngeetar, conviction and a firm stance on the truth is what's required!!! A closed mind is what's required not to be a christian.
1thess523 1 year ago
@1thess523
I was a christian for 15 years. And of course I will listen to what anyone has to say, but i've already restled with these issues in my mind for years and put them to bed a long time ago. Maybe a closed mind is not required for Christianity, but its certainly prevalent. Christianity is predicated upon the idea that one must first accept the truth without question and then find the supporting evidence. That to me is quintessential closed-mindedness.
johngeetar 1 year ago
Actually you should research the truth, many atheist have come to Christ that way, yes there is faith involved but God won't be offended if you question and seek, How old are you?
1thess523 1 year ago
I have and I do research the truth. I would argue that the majority of the atheists who convert after reading the bible or through other means of seeking the supposed "truth" of christianity probably put very little thought into becoming an atheist. All of the atheists I know were christians at one point in time before researching the truth and then subsequently deconverting. I spent many years seeking and asking. I'm 25, and yourself?
johngeetar 1 year ago
@johngeetar , I am 35, So when you were 10yrs old you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and for 15yrs you lived for Christ reading your bible surrounding your self and fellowshipping with other Christian's as well as having a regular prayer life, you then decided that it was false and denounced Christ and in turn greaved the Holy Spirit which is the unforgiveable sin according to the bible. But you know as saddening as that is that's the free will we all have. Take care
1thess523 1 year ago
I was born again when I was 5. I am the son of a preacher and grew up doing all of the things you listed. I will concede that its possible for the god of the bible to be real, as well as many other gods. I simply find it highly improbable given the fact that his attributes logically contradict each other. I also find it improbable that a loving god would torture me infinitely for a finite life of sin. For a god so big on forgiveness, he has missed his own mark.
johngeetar 1 year ago
(cont) God's style of free will is an interesting one. It's somewhat similar to taking a child into a toy store and telling him he can pick any toy he wants but if he doesn't pick the lego set he will be punched in the face non stop for the duration of his life. The more I look at this twisted justice system that god has supposedly set up, the more I wonder how I ever believed it was truth. If the god of infinite agape love sees fit to torture me forever for seeking truth, so be it.
johngeetar 1 year ago
Look we can go back and forth on the issue but here's the bottom line, you know this discession you have made and you know about the consequence's there are for that choice. Yes God is loving but He is also just, so if He said those who choose not to accept the gift of HIS SON's death for our sake they will be seperated from HIM for eternity even thought "it is not His will that any should parish" then that's what is going to be or else HE would be a liar. Well take care.
1thess523 1 year ago
I know what you are telling me the consequences are. However, just because the bible says so doesn't make it true. The bible was democratically assembled by fallible men who decided what was and wasn't divinely inspired. I fail to see the love in eternal torture. That's not love, that's hate. So if you want to continue to worship an evil bloodthirsty misogynistic tyrant who tortures anyone who is too rational to believe a silly storybook, more power too you. Count me out.
johngeetar 1 year ago
I really hope your life goes well, hey by the way did this change come about in college?
1thess523 1 year ago
I hope the same for you. I remember having a lot of doubts about mid high school. I was always asking a lot of questions and I never got sufficient answers. I was always told to pray about it and meditate on the bible, which I did regularly. After years of this I began to realize that it wasn't me that wasn't seeking hard enough. More and more doubts arose and I finally accepted that it was ok not to believe.
johngeetar 1 year ago
@johngeetar Which atributes contradict themselves?
dogododo 1 year ago
Omniscience and omnipotence. For a variety of reasons. If God knows what will happen, he is powerless to change it. And of course the ever so classic "Can God make a rock so big he can't lift it?". Or according to Homer Simpson, "Can God microwave a burrito so hot he can't eat it?" Of course we could say that God doesn't live in our realm and isn't subject to our logic. Fine, but we begin to approach a God which is indistinguishable from no God at all.
johngeetar 1 year ago
And of course, a difference which makes no difference is no difference at all. How can we even pretend to ascribe any sort of attributes to describe the ontology of a being we ourselves can't even fathom? The bible at its best simply anthropomorphizes God rather weakly. And as I've stated before, omnibenevolence isn't easily reconcilable with the doctrine of hell.
johngeetar 1 year ago
The only that's sad is how you look down upon someone who lives life his own way. If there is a kind god, I'm sure he or she or it would be happy with someone who is using their own brain to think for themself.
jmiller5796 1 year ago
Hmmm! I'll leave it at that, on a musical note if you like 90's punk like your home page says I have a bunch on my page, see no hard feeling's.
1thess523 1 year ago
@johngeetar , it's funny how people classify us as closed minded but yet the non-christian doesn't want to hear what we have to say!!!! kind of sounds closed minded huh, Look I will listen to people but I will stand on my convictions, does that mean I am closed minded. When I am talking to people and they have a different belief I don't just say I am sorry but I can't listen to you because I am closed minded. Do you listen to what Christans have to say?
1thess523 1 year ago
Great song! Great Video!
lagwagon4 4 years ago 2
*Love Dogwood* - I have been following them since the beginning with "Good o'l days"...You can't get better...now I can finally see the videos...Thank's for the post!!!!! *BTW* The band is way better live than on this video...(Remember, they don't have $500,000 backign them).
teamsalvation 4 years ago 5
I love this band! Thank you for posting!!
hawkteflon 4 years ago 2
hi! evreybody! from venezuela!!!
edwinmusic 4 years ago
i love these guys... never gets old.
MacMontrose 4 years ago 2
sik song
ooPuNkJAYoo 4 years ago
they are just the best!! that's music with love and heart!! DOGWOOD ROCKS FOR LIFE!!!!!!
Sphiunx 4 years ago 2
Dogwood, lejos la mejor banda de punk rock cristiano
bpbrainiak 4 years ago 3
.dogwood is #1.
.saw them 6 times..
.
ocsvcsvcsvo 4 years ago
dogwood is the best punkrock band of the world !!
JoBool 4 years ago 2
they where in my town
amorez 4 years ago
This song rocks so hard GO DOGWOOD!!!!
elephantattack 5 years ago
DOGWOOOOOOD!
googledawg 5 years ago
dogwood rocks!
capnoblivious12 5 years ago
I love this band
juanjopunk 5 years ago
my all time favorite band!
sephai 5 years ago