Hate to rain on you guys' parade, but GW are NOT "Just being a damn bully" and the issue has absolutely nothing to do with free speech. The problem is an issue with German copyright law which means that, in essence if Games Workshop were to allow Damnatus to be released it would, in essence, make 40k part of the public domain in Germany. I may not like the fact that it's not allowed to be released, but you guys are blaming the wrong people. A better idea would be to revise German copyright law.
@joshcripe42 Several lawyers we have spoken to said that there is no problem with codified German copyright law. 40k can in no way become public domain here. The BBC article about the DAMNATUS case showed that it's the British case law that leaves a gap here. Many copyright legal specialists among the Wh40k community from England as well from Germany told me that it's very likely that Games Workshop did not understand fully the whole situation and therefor shut us down, taking the safe road.
@HuVuTorwaechter Well then I guess I was mistaken and I apologize for that. My understanding of the situation is limited to what I've been able to find online as I don't know much about copyright law. In that case I think GW should look very closely at all law involved and do whatever is in their power to enable a release which avoids any legal issues and makes future projects like this to enrich the world of 40k. The Emperor protects.
look at warhammer online its 1st incarnation was crap so GW withdrew the rights now mythinc have re made the game and because the did the game justace the got the rights in short do you realy whant to see your favorite hobby butcherd on screen by ham acting and lowbudget costume/animation/props ?
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because the flim was poorly made and under budget and under budget film is still an underbudget film evean if its made about somthing we like lets face it the movie will be along the same quality as some of the crappy horror movies you find on channels like zone horror if a fan made somthing out of CGI for example which looked like it could bring in at a box office im sure GW wouldent mind giving out rights
There will always be cheesy sci-fi films (look at Inquisitor, for one thing). Just because it was made by amateurs, why should it be banned (This seems to be the point you're making).
For the sake of Freedom of Speech, the film should be allowed.
If what they say is true, that by allowing the movie to be released in germany, they forfeit their claim on the wh40k trademarks, i can totally understand why they cannot allow a fan film to be released there. HOWEVER, the way they handled the whole situation by giving approval, waiting until they had put years of hard work into the film and then only telling them that they cannot release the film now that it is complete.. thats bs.. frankly i'm never paying for a GW product again. -1 customer.
sehr geil der clip, aber laut Games Workshop liegt es am deutschen recht daher meine Frage gibt es den film vielleicht auf englisch/auf dem englischen Markt? Dan könnte man den Film reimportieren :)
if GW arent gonna make a film themselves they should stop whineing like bitches over fan films, ive seen the trailer for damnatus like 10 times, even though i dont speak or understand a word of german
Unfortunately due to German Law if they where to allow the film to be shown they would be unable to stop anyone and everyone making whatever stuff they liked and calling it Warhammer 40k.
I wish this film could come out, but if the cost of that is killing Warhammer 40k by making it unworkable as a bussnes, then locked away is where it has to stay.
That's what I've been wondering about too. I'm no expert in international IP legistlation but you'd think there was some way to move the whole process into a more accomodating jurisdiction...
games Workshop has abandoned its fans, once they increased prices, now they sell you half a unit for two thirds of the price of a full one! (Empire, Orks)
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you f**king retards. Would you give up your intellectual property to a group of bearded German twats? If they're so obsessed with releasing a film "for fans" how come they don't just leak the film onto the internet for free and forfeit the sales rights? Why dont you quit bitching and wait for a multi-million pound Peter Jackson production that is actually made in conjunction with the people who invented the universe.
Andy Jones, legal and licensing head for Games Workshop, said this law confers rights on the creators of works that cannot be given away.
This means that the creators of Damnatus cannot assign their rights to Games Workshop even if they wanted to.
But by sanctioning the release of the film without this "assignment" Games Workshop would essentially be giving up the title to the Warhammer 40,000 intellectual property.
Spot on Pyro. There are way too many people jumping to conclusions here. GW have their hands tied over this one. Blame the German IP laws not GW. (and no I'm not a fanboy, I don't use any of their products).
They are inseparable, so they are the same. And the greatness of one gets overrided by the failure of the other. It's like eating a mixture of fine caviar and shit.
Notice the similarity between the current Codex and the old one, the very same one Jervis had much of his hand in. Also take note that Jervis is now in charge of the 40k department of GW.
Also, I haven't heard anything further from GW about them looking for a way around copyright laws, except banning all fan movies.
Games Workshop stated that they would like to allow the movie except British copyright laws state that they lose their IP rights if they do not protect their rights... they're looking for a way around it.
Nice, good luck to Damnatus, this is just silly how GW is reacting to a fan movie, god, it's almost as if they WANT to go back to being the Nazi regime of their old days. If anyone remembers the gamer guide lines...
Erste Sahne Leute! Kommt gleich in meine Favorites. :D Wir werden es schaffen, den Feind im Inneren niederzuringen! Der Imperator ist mit den reinen nd Gerechten!
Hate to rain on you guys' parade, but GW are NOT "Just being a damn bully" and the issue has absolutely nothing to do with free speech. The problem is an issue with German copyright law which means that, in essence if Games Workshop were to allow Damnatus to be released it would, in essence, make 40k part of the public domain in Germany. I may not like the fact that it's not allowed to be released, but you guys are blaming the wrong people. A better idea would be to revise German copyright law.
joshcripe42 8 months ago
@joshcripe42 Several lawyers we have spoken to said that there is no problem with codified German copyright law. 40k can in no way become public domain here. The BBC article about the DAMNATUS case showed that it's the British case law that leaves a gap here. Many copyright legal specialists among the Wh40k community from England as well from Germany told me that it's very likely that Games Workshop did not understand fully the whole situation and therefor shut us down, taking the safe road.
HuVuTorwaechter 8 months ago
@HuVuTorwaechter Well then I guess I was mistaken and I apologize for that. My understanding of the situation is limited to what I've been able to find online as I don't know much about copyright law. In that case I think GW should look very closely at all law involved and do whatever is in their power to enable a release which avoids any legal issues and makes future projects like this to enrich the world of 40k. The Emperor protects.
joshcripe42 8 months ago
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OGDrecksau 1 year ago
the movie is so tacky, but its kind of good.
the IG are about as threatening as cashiers
at tacobell with nerf guns,
pagesoftragedy 2 years ago
Oh hey. I didnt upload Damnatus to youtube.
DamnatusGesmana 2 years ago
Bad move, GW. Fan movies help get more pple interested in the W40K franchise... why so tight-assed about it?
jonascheah 2 years ago 2
look at warhammer online its 1st incarnation was crap so GW withdrew the rights now mythinc have re made the game and because the did the game justace the got the rights in short do you realy whant to see your favorite hobby butcherd on screen by ham acting and lowbudget costume/animation/props ?
gortooth 2 years ago
more so than seeing it done by Uwe boll
kerflagerizm 2 years ago
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because the flim was poorly made and under budget and under budget film is still an underbudget film evean if its made about somthing we like lets face it the movie will be along the same quality as some of the crappy horror movies you find on channels like zone horror if a fan made somthing out of CGI for example which looked like it could bring in at a box office im sure GW wouldent mind giving out rights
gortooth 2 years ago
There will always be cheesy sci-fi films (look at Inquisitor, for one thing). Just because it was made by amateurs, why should it be banned (This seems to be the point you're making).
For the sake of Freedom of Speech, the film should be allowed.
tehpevis 2 years ago 7
@tehpevis
German IP laws would make 40k public domain. You really want that?
EinherjarServitor 11 months ago
heeey this is fucking genial!!! :-D
kubistepan 2 years ago
Haha!
Wie genial!
Zinnfigur 2 years ago
Where can i sign
necrosis101 3 years ago
I TOTALLY AGREE
if they have an english copy.
Impcommander 2 years ago
torrent on TPB
zanfr 3 years ago
The movie can be seen, now.
MetroPhalanx 3 years ago
What you mean it can be seen??
Where?!
themadrasser 3 years ago
GW is just being a damn bully....poor damnatus guys..
ArchKnightLeon 3 years ago 6
If what they say is true, that by allowing the movie to be released in germany, they forfeit their claim on the wh40k trademarks, i can totally understand why they cannot allow a fan film to be released there. HOWEVER, the way they handled the whole situation by giving approval, waiting until they had put years of hard work into the film and then only telling them that they cannot release the film now that it is complete.. thats bs.. frankly i'm never paying for a GW product again. -1 customer.
fobbah 3 years ago 2
seeeeeeeehr geil!
redassmonkeys 3 years ago
Lol..."this is Games Workshop"....HIHIHAAHAHHOHOÖHÖPÜUUU
5**************
Seafhigt 3 years ago
sehr geil der clip, aber laut Games Workshop liegt es am deutschen recht daher meine Frage gibt es den film vielleicht auf englisch/auf dem englischen Markt? Dan könnte man den Film reimportieren :)
Der Imperator beschützt!
DeckerDeluxe 3 years ago
If GW don't want fan movies, they should make one themselves. Or at least sell the rights to a respectable (not hollywood) studio.
madhammu 3 years ago
question, where can i sign the petition, the trailer was amazing and that clip was great too.
Jimbobic616 3 years ago
lol "Der Feind im Inneren " bekommt ne ganz neue bedeutung^^
DerOrk 3 years ago
Hammer VID genau die richtige Aussagekraft, ich lach mich immernoch tot MUAHAHAh Genau so sind "die" mit Ihren Fans wenn es darum geht!!!!!
AdrianoRundschke 3 years ago
More like instead of Chaos Spartan you should have had an Inquistor come up and declare Herasy.
Nice trailer btw.
Marinealver 3 years ago
if GW arent gonna make a film themselves they should stop whineing like bitches over fan films, ive seen the trailer for damnatus like 10 times, even though i dont speak or understand a word of german
IT STILL LOOKS FUCKING AWESOME!
GRAFFDEMON 3 years ago
Unfortunately due to German Law if they where to allow the film to be shown they would be unable to stop anyone and everyone making whatever stuff they liked and calling it Warhammer 40k.
I wish this film could come out, but if the cost of that is killing Warhammer 40k by making it unworkable as a bussnes, then locked away is where it has to stay.
EvilDMMk3 3 years ago
good point, but still, GW should make a film
GRAFFDEMON 3 years ago
Then why don't they just bring the Damnatus crew in as part of their company (even just in name) and release it under British law?
ZahrDalsk 3 years ago
That's what I've been wondering about too. I'm no expert in international IP legistlation but you'd think there was some way to move the whole process into a more accomodating jurisdiction...
Myrkky100 3 years ago
lol They should do that with Microsoft. Can you imagine a fan based HAL0 movie after this much troubile?
theotheramalie 3 years ago
Damnatus must be made!!! The Emperor protects!
DeathSquadLegionaire 3 years ago 2
Damnatus must be made!!! The Emperor protects!
DeathSquadLegionaire 3 years ago 2
I has nothing to do with GW IP policy. It has to do with German IP law. Petition them, not GW.
hengeworks 4 years ago
Damn...i've signate, but i looks like it was not enought :(
FireOps 4 years ago
Yeah, they made GW stop caring about fans and only about money.
Brianeze44 4 years ago
when they reach 10000 they should make a remake of the final scene with the 3000 spartans.
xionlord00 4 years ago
i was signature 8045, just signed.
Chaotyr 4 years ago
yeah we've got over 8,000 signers now, but I have to ask, is it even gonna matter? Have petitions like these ever worked?
TheBloodofSanguinius 4 years ago
not really, and last time i checked they were on about 9500 signatures including my own
darkangel0103 4 years ago
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Azdrubael 4 years ago
HAHA
Madness? THIS IS
GAMES
WORKSHOP
!!!!
stevejstiles 4 years ago
that is fukin hilarious!
MattMatt39 4 years ago
GW abandoned their fans long ago.
Spread the new and don't buy their products.
hollyhockgod 4 years ago
goil
Boeserbub 4 years ago
LOLZ that was awesome, i would sign but canadas too far away
xionlord00 4 years ago
games Workshop has abandoned its fans, once they increased prices, now they sell you half a unit for two thirds of the price of a full one! (Empire, Orks)
And then theres the joke that is White Dwarf
Wotansspawn 4 years ago 2
just spread it on the internet
mrWazz 4 years ago
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you f**king retards. Would you give up your intellectual property to a group of bearded German twats? If they're so obsessed with releasing a film "for fans" how come they don't just leak the film onto the internet for free and forfeit the sales rights? Why dont you quit bitching and wait for a multi-million pound Peter Jackson production that is actually made in conjunction with the people who invented the universe.
doseofreality69 4 years ago
Andy Jones, legal and licensing head for Games Workshop, said this law confers rights on the creators of works that cannot be given away.
This means that the creators of Damnatus cannot assign their rights to Games Workshop even if they wanted to.
But by sanctioning the release of the film without this "assignment" Games Workshop would essentially be giving up the title to the Warhammer 40,000 intellectual property.
-via BBC News Article.
Pyromancer7 4 years ago 2
Spot on Pyro. There are way too many people jumping to conclusions here. GW have their hands tied over this one. Blame the German IP laws not GW. (and no I'm not a fanboy, I don't use any of their products).
chunkyduff 4 years ago 3
I know another way, more effective than a petition they're going to ignore most likely.
Ignore them. Don't buy their products. Forget about them. Or, better yet - spread the word of how mad you are and urge others to follow.
nokouHuLLa 4 years ago
GW sucks
ZOMBO18x37 4 years ago
I think you mean GW Legal sucks. GW itself is great.
CommissarTails 4 years ago
They are inseparable, so they are the same. And the greatness of one gets overrided by the failure of the other. It's like eating a mixture of fine caviar and shit.
GW sucks, don't buy their products.
hollyhockgod 4 years ago
I signed the petition. It probably won't do anything, but I live in hope. Keep your spirits up, Damnatus fans/crew! It will get out someday...
vividwings 4 years ago
Yeah go on Damnatus!!
Cyberto 4 years ago
That video was made of Pure WIN!!!!
SuperNapalm 4 years ago
Fantastic.
Good luck to the Damnatus team.
Karmoon7 4 years ago
too right! ive signed it a while back, but GW is getting f**ked!
abdaloser 4 years ago
that is CHEESY!
But I like it.
*favourited and five stars*
Kiltmaster 4 years ago
nice one ! xD
Damnatus86 4 years ago
So where's the link to the petition so that we can sign?
BobTKaye 4 years ago
THIS IS GAMES WÜÜRKSHOOP!
SarahXWhite 4 years ago
the guy in red looks just like one of my Class mates!!!!!
Kamakaziebastard 4 years ago
Notice the similarity between the current Codex and the old one, the very same one Jervis had much of his hand in. Also take note that Jervis is now in charge of the 40k department of GW.
Also, I haven't heard anything further from GW about them looking for a way around copyright laws, except banning all fan movies.
Enigwolf 4 years ago
Wonderful video
BUT
Games Workshop stated that they would like to allow the movie except British copyright laws state that they lose their IP rights if they do not protect their rights... they're looking for a way around it.
ZahrDalsk 4 years ago 4
I blame Jervis Johnson. Now he screwed up the Chaos Codex.
Enigwolf 4 years ago
Gav and Alessio did the new Chaos codex, not Jervis
jeanstealer 4 years ago
THIS IS GAMES WORKSHOP! Vary funny indeed.
VenaliterMono 4 years ago
Very good, i hope GW will free it
Rabengesang 4 years ago
i think i twinkled XD
krapsicle 4 years ago
Just passed 6000
jeanstealer 4 years ago
Free Damnatus, I loved Games Workshop! But now I hate them...
vhtml 4 years ago
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUSCHD
Bavarion 4 years ago
Free Damnatus!
U1984U 4 years ago
LOL LOL ...
but really what GW does its Madness ....
GO Damnatus!!!
...ps hope that nine inch nails dont sue u also :)
plasmaleakTube 4 years ago
HAHAHAHA XD
whoami 4 years ago
Just like you imagined by Nine inch Nails.
I've signed already.
Luy22 4 years ago
whats the name of the song?
anyway this is cool^^
select89 4 years ago
Und GW wundert sich, warum sie immer mehr in die roten Zahlen reinrutschen~
Meggadezz 4 years ago
Free Damnatus!
RedHarbinger 4 years ago
Very, very nice cynism! (GW, the enemy from within...) *gg*
Nazdreg1 4 years ago
We want Damnatus! Burn the unclean GW!
Hero1980 4 years ago
LMAO! Nice.
On a serious note I am REALLY pissed off at Games Workshop. I have been waiting for Damnatus for YEARS.
Yorkiebar1 4 years ago
Lol! amazing short you made.
I've read all of the emails that's gone between GW and Damnatus, and GW is just giving illogical reason a to why they can't show it.
GaiusBaltarr 4 years ago
Egal wie es ausgeht, seid stolz auf das was ihr geleistet habt!!!! Vielleicht bekommt ihr GW rum und im nächsten WD gibts ne DVD-Beilage ;) :D !
bodyshock 4 years ago
HA HA HA this is so stupid and pointless!!!!
wait a sec the point is to get GW to allow damnatus!!!
Kamakaziebastard 4 years ago
GW and its policies can burn in hell. Good luck Damnatus
mckeegaunt 4 years ago
Nice, good luck to Damnatus, this is just silly how GW is reacting to a fan movie, god, it's almost as if they WANT to go back to being the Nazi regime of their old days. If anyone remembers the gamer guide lines...
warpix 4 years ago
Klasse Video! Habe es direkt auf meiner Website verlinkt.
lordofchaos3 4 years ago
GEIL!!! xD GAMES WORKSHOP SOLL AUSSTERBEN!!!
nur schade das warhammer online so geil is und ich es mir trotzdem holen muss q_q
Nemo100 4 years ago
ICh kenn den Typ der sich des ausgedacht hat!!!!zuuuu geil!!!!
Dust0fEternity 4 years ago
Ja mann echt geil gemacht und für einen guten Zweck! Weiter so jungs!
Thorgar101 4 years ago
Extrem geil gemacht! :D
ChuutRiit 4 years ago
Thanks for your positive comments!
@Daemon124:
Es gibt einen Brief von Andy Jones (siehe Forum), aber darin sind keine Anzeichen vorhanden, dass sie die Sache nochmal überdenken wollen.
@SaveCloneHigh:
It's "Just liky you imagined" by Nine Inch Nails
HuVuTorwaechter 4 years ago
Bruuuuuutal!!!!, It´s genial!!!!
Go on Damnatus!!! Go against tyrany!!!
jappaltube 4 years ago
super!
AustgermienTrash 4 years ago
Genial gemacht ^^
Das Video solltest noch bei den Damnatusnews verlinken :D
Mkvenner82 4 years ago
Very nice! Go Damnatus!
Does anyone by chance know the name of that song?
SaveCloneHigh 4 years ago
Geiles vid :D:D:D
@Torwächter: hat sich GW eignetlich schon zu der Petition geäußert?
Daemon124 4 years ago
'der Feind im innern' kriegt da doch ne ganz neue Bedeutung lol
RETTET DAMNATUS!
Gauntlet1212 4 years ago
ja-woll! so siehts aus ^^
Talon3000 4 years ago
looooool is das geil!
Venator21 4 years ago
maximum lol!
TLUKY000 4 years ago
hahah
herrlich ^^
INRI30 4 years ago
Absolut genial!
wird gespeichert
Muddadolfidix 4 years ago
Super, das finde ich mal richtig lustig.
*link weiterschick*
KazilDarkeye 4 years ago
Erste Sahne Leute! Kommt gleich in meine Favorites. :D Wir werden es schaffen, den Feind im Inneren niederzuringen! Der Imperator ist mit den reinen nd Gerechten!
redsimonDE 4 years ago
lol,...very cool clip!!!
free DAMNATUS!!!
Waaaghgrot 4 years ago