AllThingsFulfilled 2 Peter 3: End of Heaven and Earth?

[AllThingsFulfilled]

@bluesmann8 Nice try, but the promise says God will "never" again curse the ground for man's sake even though the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done. The emphasis is not on the element God used to destroy all life, but on the action itself. He is saying he will never again destroy all living from the earth. So, can strike a match to that and burn the world up. The next verse shows day and night would not cease.

[AllThingsFulfilled]

Megan, you've got to read the time statements along with the prophetic event. These are time prophecies. Read Matt. 24:34-35, and notice the time statements, "this generation shall not pass" Yes, heaven and earth would pass but within that first century generation. If those words were not there, I would agree with you, but you can't read the Bible and pretend they are not there.

[MegaHillFolk]

some of this doesnt jive with scriptures that teach heavens and earth shall pass away. the earth waxes old as doth a garment. this earth is being rapped by mankind. the Lord with restore it . 'a new heaven and a new earth" right?

[larpsim]

Thank you, Mr. Bell.

[AllThingsFulfilled]

Very good point. Noted.

[pendilem]

So accurate you are Mr. Bill. (he he). In fact...here is added supporting texts to sure up the foundation of truth that the context ALWAYS refers to the destruction of a nation rather than a total "global" destruction. Here are those supporting verses with regard to Israel as a Nation / World: >Daniel 12:1; “..and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was A NATION; Matthew 24:21 “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world,,

[max2right]

This immoral god drowned millions of innocent puppies, kittens, cows, snails and snakes. Imagine the mother wolf desperately trying to get her pups to higher ground. Imagine the exhausted mother elephant as she watch her baby sink below the surface her trunk held high taking her last breath. What a vicious and immoral character he is. We are lucky he doesn't exist.

[LoveJesusNotReligion]

Added to my blog at Love Jesus Not Religion .org with credit to you William and a link to your blog. :-)

[ChristianIce]

I don't think any sane person could believe that a supernatural being killed all humanity with a flood.

Either you don't question your beliefs or you think your god is far from being omnipotent, cause I can think a million of other ways to fix that given situation without "filling a planet with water" .. to fix a problem that god is responable of in first place.

[ChristianIce]

For example, why bother noah and a LOT of animals to suffer in a boat if you can:

1 - Snap your fingers and have all "bad" people dropping dead.

2 - fix their minds

3 - turn the time back and fix the problem at its origin

4 - paralize for a week every bad guy after every single bad action

5 - have the "sinners" grow old 10 years for every bad action

poor water sounds just silly, no offence.

And.. IT DIDN'T WORK!!

God is supposed to be omniscent, right?

Why bother being INEFFECTIVE?

[Stevoukos]

@ChristianIce If religious people could understand basic logic..There would be no religions at all..Dont bother trying to persuade them..Let them live in their own bubble..

[Danielezerable]

@ChristianIce There was a rebel who showed up after the flood. One bad egg spoils a bunch.

[AllThingsFulfilled]

@ChristianIce Sounds to me like you should be giving this advice to God, not to me. If you have a problem with how he does things or His inefficiency perhaps you could give him some pointers. God works through men. He could post his own youtube videos if he wanted to but he leaves that to us. So, shouldn't you be condemning that too?

[ChristianIce]

@AllThingsFulfilled

Yep, i would tell him if he was real.

[AllThingsFulfilled]

@ChristianIce How do you know you are?

[ChristianIce]

@AllThingsFulfilled

Cause my shoes smell.

[proginosko]

@AllThingsFulfilled Great point. If she is nothing more than the product of evolution and does not possess a soul, then she is completely dependent upon her own brain to interrupt reality. How does she know that what her brain is experiencing is real? She does'nt.

[Danielezerable]

@AllThingsFulfilled

Genesis 9:8 and Genesis 9:12 WITH A FLOOD YOU DOOFUS! Preterists STEAL HOPE!

Preterist response: It is fulfilled hope!

Preterists like you not only DESTROY HOPE but in their STUPIDITY they basically state God is EVIL! Is it any wonder why I HATE preterists?!?

[ElCangri137]

@ChristianIce I dont think that any sane person could believe that God didnt destroy the earth via flood. Ignoring the fossil record, whale skeletons on top of mountains in New Hampshire, the mid-oceanic ridges the separated continents...etc. You are not questioning "your" beliefs and dont understand 'simple' mathematics that "ONLY" a supernatural being could created a material universe. Elementray my dear Fred Flintstone. smh...

[ChristianIce]

@ElCangri137

LOL, so you believe in a asshole, a mass murderer, a creator that have to fix his mistakes by killing his creation ... good for you!

You probably think that the universe is 6.000 yrs old, and I guess you have evidence of that also .. right?

That's impressive, really, thanks for opening my eyes!!

hahahahhahahahaha

[preteristaynrand]

Who is it , that would have us believe , that God has lost , and Satan has won?

[AllThingsFulfilled]

Thanks much!

[mooglecharmed]

Another good video. Keep em coming :)

[AllThingsFulfilled]

Great Bryan, study is always progressive when done in a good heart. Sometimes it takes a while to get to all the comments, but every know and then I try to respond. I also like reading what others say. Usually, they do a great job in answering my detractors.

[BryanJ729]

Thanks William, interesting video. I believe in fulfilled prophecy, I would say I lean a little further than partial, but not quite full. Nonetheless, I was blessed in watching your video. I plan to check out your website. Thanks again.

[kidwhocracked]

My Harper Collins Study Bible (and I think that a majority of mainline scholars agree) indicates that 2 peter was not written by Peter but a later author, and that it actually rationalizes the dashed hopes of the first century Christians when they realized that Christ didn't come when they expected him to. I find this view somewhat convincing having just read it. What evidence do you have that this is not the case and also that Peter actually wrote the book?

[AllThingsFulfilled]

No, he did not. The ark rested on the mountains of Ararat from the same earth that had the flood. Any natural disaster will create some changes in topography, whether flood, tornado, or earthquake. That does not mean we have a new earth. It's the same earth. Noah breathed the same air. The raven and dove flew by the same laws of physics and aerodynamics, and the same laws of heat and thermodynamics caused the same water to recede and the earth to dry. Support for a new earth is clearly lacking.

[povely13]

The flood of Noah's day although it destroyed the world of evil men in Noah's days also changed the material creation in many ways Gen 1: 6,7 says there was a firmament of water above, when God created the world, in Gen 6;13 says the flood of Gen 7:7 was a part of the earth. Beside, the flood clearly destroyed the earth for we readd in Gen 8:21-23, that all flesh save the 8 and the animals perished. So Noah after the flood indeed came to a new earth.

[povely13]

If what you are saying is true, then when will God take away the curse that the present heavens and earth know from the sin of Adam? Because you will agree that this world was definitely brought under the curse as well. The teaching of the new heavens and earth via the destruction (regeneration) of the present world is because the work of christ also redeemed the physical creation from the curse ( Col1:20).

[AllThingsFulfilled]

God has already removed all curses that prevented man from having a relationship of peace with him. Gal. 3:13, says Christ redeemed Israel from the curse of the law." Rev. 22:3, shows "after the old heaven and earth was destroyed, (21:1) the curse was removed. God says "And there shall be no more curse."

The new heavens and earth is a world without the curse because Christ and his righteousness rules in it. If people can move pass their Armageddon "blow up the world" they'll understand it.

[ROCHELDION]

Hello Mr bell Chris from OKc. I totally understand the point. Christ brought us to the new heaven and new earth hebrews 12 22. Now we live by the governmental structure which the king himself has established since the beginning of time. And consummated his government at the resurrection.

[povely13]

Gen 9:15 teaches that God will never destroy the world of sinners with water. But that does not say he will not destroy the world. Beside in 2 Peter the destruction of the present heavens and earth, brings in the new heavens and the earth. The gospel teach that this is an issue of regeneration of the world and not an annihilation of it. However the present cosmos groaning is delivered and perfected to be as the garden of Eden without the curse.

[AllThingsFulfilled]

You've just contradicted your former position. If God did not "annihilate" the earth in Noah's day, and if he's not going to "annihilate" the "heaven and earth now, 2 Pet" according to your view, then you concede your position. Further, "One generation passes away and another comes, but the earth abides forever." (Eccl. 1:4) Also see Rev. 21:1-2, where the old heaven and earth passes away and the new comes down to be with men. Paul wrote the ends of the ages came upon them, (1 Cor. 10:11).

[AllThingsFulfilled]

Thirdly, your interpretation contradicts God's promise to never again destroy all flesh as he did in the flood, even though all man's heart is evil from his youth. "I will never again curse the ground for man's sake...nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done." (Gen. 8:21, 22) He gave the rainbow as a token of his promise,(Gen. 9:13-16). Thus, the contrast is between a world of ungodly people in Noah's day, and a world (called heaven and earth) of ungodly people in Peter's day.

[AllThingsFulfilled]

Secondly, if your interpretation of verse 5 were logical, it would imply that God destroyed the original creation. He did not. What he did was used the original creation, (the flood waters from the earth and the heavens), to destroy "all flesh" with the exception of Noahs's family. 2 Peter 2:5, provides the key to the text saying God brought the "flood" upon the "world of the ungodly." Thus, "world" means the wicked of Noah's day, not the material creation of the literal heaven and earth.

[povely13]

Again an honest reading of 2 Peter 3:1-11 shows that the focus of destruction is more heavily on the material cosmos denoted by the heavens and the earth see (vrs. 5,7,10).if you can deny that vrs 5 is not the material world at creation ( Gen 1:1-2) then i dont think you are being honest with the word. But if you agree it is then vrs 7-10 follows. Notice in 7 that there is an "and" between the material world and the ungodly. It says same day is the destruction of the wicked as the world.

[AllThingsFulfilled]

First, you would be better served to start with 2 Pet.3:1, where Peter points us to the source of his eschatology on the end of all things. It is the first epistle, where he says, the end of the all things had drawn near, 1 Pet. 4:7, and time of the judgment had come, 1 Pet. 4:17. So, your reasoning destroys the imminence of the 1st Peter, which is Peter's source for 2 Peter. No interpretation should be offered which contradicts another. Yours does.

[povely13]

Mr Bell, yet what you said about the stars, and others are true. However if you are saying that the world is never in view, why does Peter in 2 Peter talks about the world destroyed by flood? and speaks of a then world seperated by a flood, leading to a now world also reserved unto destruction by fire and then the eternal cosmos? Sir, you the destruction of the evil men ( the world sinneres) also include the purging of sin from the cosmos as Paul in Rom 8 says

[AllThingsFulfilled]

Yes, 1 Thes. 4:15-17, was fulfilled. Compare the text with Matthew 24:

1. Both teach the coming/Parousia of Christ.

2. Both teach the event happens before 1st century Christians all die. (Mt. 24:34; 1 Th. 4:15,17. (Know anyone still living from the 1st century? Neither do the futurists!)

3. Both teach "last" trumpet, (Mt. 24:31, 1 Th. 4:17)

4. Both teach the coming in the clouds in judgment upon 1st century Israel (Mt. 24:30; 1 Th. 4:17; 2:15-17; 5:3)

[renanludy]

Hello Mr.Bell,

Congratulations, you're a very good

teacher. I'd like to see and something

about the famous passage of Paul in 1 Tess 4:15-17. The futurists say that it's about

the rapture, but was it fulfilled?

[AllThingsFulfilled]

Thanks for all the positive feedback. Send me suggestions on themes you like to have covered.

[tbear674]

ok so what time are we living in now being that the it all has been fulfilled as u say,,,

[AllThingsFulfilled]

We are living in the times following the "endtime." In other words, the time of the age to come which followed the Jewish age. It is a world without end, Eph. 3:21. "Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus, world without end, Amen (KJV)

[tbear674]

ok, so what days are we living in then if as u say everything has already been fulfilled, what time are we in.....

[reouch]

Good job William Bell!

Unfortunately, till heaven and earth pass away some will not realize these things.

[000pipewrench000]

Thank you, Mr Bell, for another clear presentation of what the Scriptures really say regarding the "end times."

[SeekEmet]

sweet stuff. keep it coming man!

[Nike5265]

Welcome Back!

[THEGlobalAwakening]

The truth is the truth and man, this is The Truth!

Thanks- Perhaps we need much more of this: especially for those who might appreciate a little more time in order to digest news of what the scriptures ACTUALLY SAY instead of the disinformation currently being put about by 99.99% of "preachers"!

IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP!

[huckster271]

nice presentation

[CajunPunk]

I knew you'd be here. lol