@elcaballodecaligula Sorry, that I contradict. What Arrau focused about with Krause was exactly Liszt. Why do you think that in the famous movie about Franz Liszt, Arrau was chosen over Richter? The reason is that Richter was overly emotional, going for drama, not what in Chinese philosophy (and also German wisdom) is called restraint. Emotions need to be channeled, and Liszt's music is extraordinarily emotional. We are not living in the 19th centry, okay?
@elcaballodecaligula ... of course .... Arrau would, no doubt, have in time studied the Sonata with Krause but the latter died suddenly in the flu epidemic of 1918.
@gerardbedecarter Yes, he did. Krause's teaching is reflected very thoroughly with Arrau's whole repertoire. Let me tell this as a German who besides studying law but also music at a German conservatory, the 'German school', as it is called, does not stress 'virtuosity' in the sense this is perceived in the USA, but as a very competent handling of any difficulty in pianistry, which means to value perfection over speed, and score-obedience over fancy liberties. Arrau was genial.
Was für eine solide, wirklich gute und vernünftige Technik (zB bei den Oktaven) Ohne jede Krampfhaftigkeit und forcierte "Wildheit" Die klangliche Größe oder beser "Breite" finde ich faszinierend
dated from 1851-53, this magnificent work caused conmotion among the people from that time due to its challenging presentation and even was left aside by many artists due to its formal novelties, and written in a single movement filled with chromatisms.
@beethomozart Not only that, filled with extraordinary and extravagant pianistic difficulties that no amateur in piano performance can master. Also, the tensions in the hands are such that a child prodigee cannot master them, do what you will.
@chacoteris Okay, you say it in your way but all great music is owned by all people all over the world because the musical language is universal, belonging to all cultures of the world.
Far too personal-too many rythm changes and slowing downs..!!!
superbemaison 4 months ago
Did Araau study the Sonata with Martin Krause ???
gerardbedecarter 4 months ago
@gerardbedecarter No, I don't think he did. However, he understood quite well the necessities of this kind of oeuvre.
elcaballodecaligula 4 months ago
@elcaballodecaligula ... I don't doubt that Arrau understood the Liszt Sonata.
gerardbedecarter 4 months ago
@elcaballodecaligula Sorry, that I contradict. What Arrau focused about with Krause was exactly Liszt. Why do you think that in the famous movie about Franz Liszt, Arrau was chosen over Richter? The reason is that Richter was overly emotional, going for drama, not what in Chinese philosophy (and also German wisdom) is called restraint. Emotions need to be channeled, and Liszt's music is extraordinarily emotional. We are not living in the 19th centry, okay?
ipublica 1 month ago
@elcaballodecaligula ... of course .... Arrau would, no doubt, have in time studied the Sonata with Krause but the latter died suddenly in the flu epidemic of 1918.
gerardbedecarter 1 month ago
@gerardbedecarter Yes, he did. Krause's teaching is reflected very thoroughly with Arrau's whole repertoire. Let me tell this as a German who besides studying law but also music at a German conservatory, the 'German school', as it is called, does not stress 'virtuosity' in the sense this is perceived in the USA, but as a very competent handling of any difficulty in pianistry, which means to value perfection over speed, and score-obedience over fancy liberties. Arrau was genial.
ipublica 1 month ago
So warm.. so dramatic... so beautiful..
TripleRhu 7 months ago
Was für eine solide, wirklich gute und vernünftige Technik (zB bei den Oktaven) Ohne jede Krampfhaftigkeit und forcierte "Wildheit" Die klangliche Größe oder beser "Breite" finde ich faszinierend
KarloFeder 10 months ago
@KarloFeder Ich stimme völlig mit Ihnen!!
chilenoHDU 6 months ago
the return to the grandioso theme at 3:30 is one of the most beautiful, brilliant moments in music.
fledgehog 1 year ago
dated from 1851-53, this magnificent work caused conmotion among the people from that time due to its challenging presentation and even was left aside by many artists due to its formal novelties, and written in a single movement filled with chromatisms.
beethomozart 1 year ago 3
@beethomozart Not only that, filled with extraordinary and extravagant pianistic difficulties that no amateur in piano performance can master. Also, the tensions in the hands are such that a child prodigee cannot master them, do what you will.
ipublica 1 month ago
does someone know of what year is this recording? 1970 or 1985? because I have one that I don't like at all, but I love this one
honron23 2 years ago
Wow, Arrau playing faster than average! Sublime.
jazzlover06 2 years ago
*****
gerardbedecarter 2 years ago 3
Magnificent! He owns this Sonata.
chacoteris 2 years ago 6
@chacoteris Indeed!
VivaRenata 4 months ago
@chacoteris Okay, you say it in your way but all great music is owned by all people all over the world because the musical language is universal, belonging to all cultures of the world.
ipublica 1 month ago