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  • wow psychological projection.

  • Where is part 5?

  • I suggest staying away from mentioning hypnosis and trance in your videos. There's a lot of information lacking and the information present is simply inaccurate. Not to be hostile however, I believe in your values and stance. The info in inaccurate though.

  • What's with reference to the left? The majority of corporate thugs are well known to be on the right and and damned proud of it I might add. Republicans protect their interests at all costs and you want credibility with this. Better figure out who's on what side first. Left my ass.

  • Quote Mr. Zwicker "The official story cannot be true..the 19 hijackers etc..." I wonder why it can't be true. Can people not hijack planes and crash them into buildings? Is there something that makes that scenario impossible? People can hijack planes. A suicidal maniac can crash the plane into a building. What is so impossible about it? Oh, I know it's the 'official story'. Now I see, the 'official story' means something that's not true so it can't be true.

  • @cwlldoran You should check out Pilots For 9/11 Truth (pilotsfor911truth org) videos, where they talk about the physics of the official story's flights and piloting problems of hitting building even as massive as these.

    Also check out Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth (ae911truth org) videos about the construction of the buildings and the nature of their collapses. Did you know the buildings were built to withstand mulitple plane strikes of fully fueled jetliners?

  • @tobiasaurusrex For Pilots for Truth everything is impossible. The 320 spiral dive was impossible with g forces that were too high etc. then it's shown to be well inside the flight envelope. The planes hit the WTC towers flying at exactly the speed they were flying at. It may not be easy to do but why should it be easy?

    The buildings were designed to withstand a hit from an airliner flying at about 1/3 the speed of the 911 planes. 3 times the speed is 9 times the kinetic energy.>>

  • @pentagon28 >> The designers didn't take into account subsequent fires and also the possibility of fireproofing being removed by the impact. The crashing of a plane into the building was never tested. One architect said a plane hitting the building was like making a hole in a mosquito screen - even I can see that is daft - the mesh of a mosquito screen is not supporting the frame. A plane crashing into the WTC towers was a big 'experiment' , one that had never been done before - >>

  • @pentagon28 >> people do physics experiments to find out what would actually happens when something occurs and they assess the results. The idea of doing an experiment, seeing the results and then dismissing them on the basis of 'that's not the result we expected' is a flawed one. When the Colombia Shuttle disaster happen the engineers said the foam could not have caused the damage to the wing -until someone insisted on doing the experiment.

  • @pentagon28 "The designers didn't take into account subsequent fires and also the possibility of fireproofing being removed by the impact."

    This is a total myth. The buildings were built in three sections distinct from each other, which required elevator switching, because of fire seclusion built into the design. Further, the fireproofing was a useless retrofit, applied because of chemical industry lobbyists.

  • @tobiasaurusrex The fireproofing being useless is not a very good arguement if you are trying to say the steel would have been protected from the fire.

  • @pentagon28 Again, either through honest or wilfull ignorance, fail to understand reality. When the building was constructed, the steel used was verified for fire safety by independent laboratories. Later, because of chemical company lobbying, they sprayed asbestos all over the steel. Then the asbestos was ordered removed, because it's deadly and because it is extraeous to the steel's fire durability. Fires burn at 800 to 1100 degrees F, and the steel still has much headroom to stay strong.

  • @pentagon28 Any more red herrings you want to throw? Obviously I'm well informed, and obviously you're intent is to create doubt to the passerby, and you hold no intention of actually understanding physics, chemistry, or engineering. The truth is against the official whitewash/cover up, and more people are waking up. If we create a discussion, any research by the curious observer leads to truth.

  • @pentagon28 Possible in a fighter jet, but not a cruiseliner.

    The buildings didn't fall over from impact, did they? They survived the impact quite well, since the impacts were still below hurricane forces. They were designed to withstand fires from more fuel than was present, even it the fuel didn't burn off in the fireballs at the exit holes. Fire has never taken down a steel framed high rise.

  • @tobiasaurusrex I don't know what you mean by 'possible in a fighter but not in an airliner' - I presume you mean the speed - the planes were travelling at a certain speed when they hit the buildings. They didn't break up or fall out of the sky. If someone says there were exceeding some max operating speed then the were exceeding it - you can't argue with the fact that you can see them on video doing just that. >>>

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  • @pentagon28 >>Saying something is impossible when the experiment has been done that demonstrates that it is possible -twice- is facile.The buildings were designed to withstand the impact of an airliner crashing at approach speed into the building and they did survive the impact. The designers did not take into account a subsequent fire. Saying fire has never brought down a steel framed high rise ignoring the fact that a plane has just hit the building.

  • @pentagon28 What experiment? You're talking out of nowhere.

  • @pentagon28 The speed involved as stated only by the Commission Report is impossible for an unmodified 767 jetliner to achieve. Go watch the pilotsfor911truth films to find out why. I can't place the data of an hour into these little boxes.

  • @pentagon28 Where do you get this made up, "1/3 the speed"? Also, you're saying that three times the speed is three times the force proves you know little about physics.

    You must be a minimum wage shill. Keep trying to lie.

  • @tobiasaurusrex The impact invisaged by the designers of the building was of a plane approaching to land at a nearby airport which is about 1/3 the speed of the 911 planes. I said that 3 times the speed is 3 times the kinetic energy , 1/2 M V squared. The velocity squared.

  • @pentagon28 Again, you make up the this 1/3 airspeed theory. No, they designed them, maximum fuel for the largest airliners of the day travelling at slightly lower than maximum speed because of fog. Again, it doesn't matter, because the buildings didn't fall over from the impacts, they stood. The impacts are still far less than hurricane forces. An airplane can produce about 300 tons of force, and the buildings were designed for 13,000 tons of force at least.

  • @tobiasaurusrex Leslie E. Robertson lead engineer WTC

    "The two towers were the first structures outside of the military and nuclear industries designed to resist the impact of a jet airliner, the Boeing 707. It was assumed that the jetliner would be lost in the fog, seeking to land at JFK or at Newark." >>

  • @pentagon28 Leslie E. Robertson continue

    "To the best of our knowledge, little was known about the effects of a fire from such an aircraft, and no designs were prepared for that circumstance. Indeed, at that time, no fireproofing systems were available to control the effects of such fires."

  • @pentagon28 You almost understand the calculation. Yes, good kinetic energy is energy in action. Check. the formula is better presented as F = [M * ((V)^2) / 2]. It would actually be greater than three times increase (if your false 1/3 velocity were true), but it shows that your basic math skills are still lacking. Just because you change one variable, even if you add the work "kinetic", you still have to follow through with the equation for the resulting difference. You're learning, though.

  • @tobiasaurusrex My mistake , 9 times the kinetic energy , as I said in the first post.

  • @pentagon28 Further, this is still a red herring, as all the planes did was remove very few of the interior and exterior steel pillars. No one has ever said that the impact of the planes brough the buildings down, and it would have happened at impact.

    You like fish a lot. I'll leave you to your herring feast. Again, I highly recommend that algebra class, maybe even some years of calculus, physics, and chemistry, too. Then you'll be caught up.

  • @pentagon28 In trying to get the 300 ton plane to have 13,000 tons of force, take into account the crumpling of the plane, and the fact that the plane applies it's force to a select area, and puts its energy into flying out the other side of the building, affecting the steel columns it strikes.

    With bullets this is called overpenetration, where the bullet passes through a body, only delivering a portion of it's energy. So is that portion 13,000 tons of force?

    Show your work.

  • @pentagon28 "For Pilots for Truth everything is impossible."

    To you, if something is possible with one jet, it's possible with any jet, so since an SR-71 Blackbird can fly mach 3, all planes can fly mach 3.

    Hmm, who should I believe, trained veteran pilots showing their formulae, calculations, and results, or some guy who does nothing with his account but deny physics, chemistry, and aircraft data in order to spin his disinformation?

  • @tobiasaurusrex To me if an airliner crashes into a building at x mph then it can crash into a building at x mph. A Boeing 767 can't fly at mach 3. People who show their formulas and results and are then proven wrong by an actual experiment is like the NASA engineers still insisting that the foam couldn't make a hole in the shuttle wing after seeing the experiment that demonstrated that it could.

  • @pentagon28 A plane can't crash into a building at a higher speed than it can possibly fly at for that altitude.

  • @tobiasaurusrex That's correct. A plane can't fly at a speed it can't possibly fly at. The planes on 911 didn't fly at a speed that they couldn't possibly fly at, by definition, since they didn't break up and fall out of the sky. The question is then, what speed were they flying at. If they were actually flying at a speed at which they theroetically should have broken up then that theoretical calculation is incorrect because they didn't break up.

  • @pentagon28 Try the same calc with a 737-400 model.

  • @pentagon28

    It sounds like you and tobiasaurusrex might be more knowledgeable about physics and mathematics than I, but, in my years of investigating 911, I have learned a lot about planes (their structure and max. speeds), about the "twins" (their structural make-up, etc.), about fire temperatures and their influence on structural steel, and how physics dictates the way a compromised building falls...and there can be NO denying that there was CD!

    I DON'T believe real planes were used AT ALL!

  • @pentagon28 Please, take an adult-ed course in algebra. The factor is completely dependent on the original variable, and the resulting graph of possibilities is a slightly shallowed parabola. You also forgot to divide by two, giving you 4.5 times the energy, if you place the original velocity at "1". One m/h? One km/h?

    Calculate the velocity needed to have a vehicle with a mass of 300 SAE tons to acheive 13,000 tons of force.

  • @tobiasaurusrex

    E1=0.5 x M x V^2

    E2=0.5 x M x (3V)^2

    E2=0.5 x M x 9(V^2)

    E2=E1 x 9

    Division by 2 applies to both E1 and E2. The units don't matter - if it is km/h or m/h it is still 3 times the speed and 9 times the kinetic energy.

  • @cwlldoran It's still made up. He made up this 1/3 velocity. Even it it were true, it still wouldn't approach hurricane forces, or the 13,000 ton threshold, let alone the overpenetration effect that would nullify a plane's excessive force.

    Neither of you have made any valid points, and you both outright lie.

    Pickled red herring breakfast, lunch, and dinner is not much of a diet.

  • @tobiasaurusrex You also ignore the fact that someone who fails at flying a Cessna class plane isn't going to be able to fly a jetliner. Someone who can drive a VW Beetle can't drive an 18 wheeler, and those are more similar. You ignore what was said about Navy pilots being proud at being able to land on an aircraft carrier - similar to hitting the Twin Towers, and again you think someone who failed at flying a Cessna can pull off a precision move at speed.

  • @tobiasaurusrex The people in question all had pilots licences which you don't get by failing to fly a Cessna. They were refused the rental of a plane at one flight school so they went to another and they rented one. They flew the flight corridor taken by the 911 planes to NY, using handheld GPS devices to navigate. They did training on commercial aircraft simulators. Landing on an aircraft carrier is a completely different skill.

  • @pentagon28 They failed, and the US State Department said, "No, give them the licences anyway," to the schools. One was called the worst pilot that instructor had ever seen. Even if they had passed, you still can't fly a jetliner based on Cessna training, it's impossible... and fly with Navy precision at max speed?

    You're a disinformation peon distorting facts to match your desired end result, rather than looking at the facts and trying to determine what can be concluded.

  • @cwlldoran It's pretty clear from you profile that you're simply a disinformation agent, and not actually interested in what studying facts and concusions based on those facts.

  • Just yesterday I was labeled a "truther" -- I guess that was supposed to mean I am crazy because I thought it an extraordinary claim that two aircraft were responsible for the collapse of three buildings which fell almost exactly into their own footprint near the speed of gravity -- all mind you, without the help of demolition explosives. But do not extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence? The government has yet to provide any extraordinary evidence.

  • What is up with the reggae music? Were talking about 9-11, not a beach party in Jamaica.

  • @somebodysvids bob marley "stir it up"

  • @somebodysvids You need to hear real reggae. It's not the backing track to a spiced rum commercial, it's very politically active.

    /watch?v=eciArkBTeBM

  • Listen Bernie-

    Nothing about 9/11 was meant to be ,or, could deceive the evaluation of anyone in the the architect department. The only important objective was achieved that same day.

    The rest was irrelevant.

    That's why they didn't bother to cover it up.

    That is what I think Chomsky is trying to convey, and,he might be hinting that ,

    there are some issues must be left alone if you are willing to live longer.

  • I think avoiding subject like 9/11 truth, JFK assassination etc is a tactic on part of Chomsky to deliberately separate himself from issues that are often mislabeled, discredited as conspiracy theory. 

  • Music is not appropriate while showing building falling. People were dying there.

  • @orbis2009

    BUILDING 7 WAS CLEARED OF PEOPLE. UNLESS YOU KNOW SOMETHING I DON'T.

  • @Yoryevrah Oops. That's right. I apologize.

  • @Yoryevrah Witnesses reported stepping over dead bodies on the way out.

  • @Yoryevrah "BUILDING 7 WAS CLEARED OF PEOPLE. UNLESS YOU KNOW SOMETHING I DON'T."

    Barry Jennings tells what you need to know. I must agree, the tone of the tune seems more apt as a demonstration of something for children. At first I thought you were going to be wrapping something. You started to ryhmn,,, oh good he's not going to wrap.

    To me, the evidence of obstruction of justice will ensnare the perps responsible for those demolitions and murders. No statute of limitations for murder.

  • @orbis2009 Your comment is pretty old,... but this is the Wailers, who were fairly politically active themselves, and to some extent, although this is not a political song, it is called "Stir It Up", which is the gist of what Zwicker is saying to keep doing.

  • @tobiasaurusrex Thanks.

  • The truth that does not go away is someone killed 3000 people, and the killers have not yet been found. Why have they not been found? I don't think the killers are powerful people who are benefiting from 9/11.

  • This guy is just another pseudo-intellectual crackpot, using scientific sounding language to convince the gullible. "Looking for evidence" IS "projecting information". Example: "The collapse of WTC7 resembled a controlled demolition. Therefore, it must have been one." Comparing an event with prior events is indeed searching for and applying evidence; but concluding that ALL events can only be understood in terms of PRIOR events is projecting. This guy is about half as bright as he thinks he is.

  • @hippiegrinder If you have the slightest understanding of structural steel construction and physic a 3rd grader would understand, you would KNOW that WTC7 did not collapse due to "collateral damage" of the tWTC1 & 2 events earlier in the day. Fire can not cause this either.

  • also, the term 'youtuber' is meaningless. any superficial classification of youtube is inherently retarded. Youtube is a mirror. if you wana watch people get hit in the nuts with baseball bats, simple search for it. conversely, if you want to learn more about your life and your world, just do a fucking search for it. Youtube is a mirror to the individual and is without a doubt the most valuable media tool of modern times. Not really youtube itself but the underlying function of youtube.

  • hmmmm interesting but ultimately only evokes skepticism. post-modern thought has been wrestled to the ground often by pedestrian thinkers and this is the result. it is a bankrupt and ultimately futile path.

  • @livluv44 writes, "Youtube is a mirror to the individual and is without a doubt the most valuable media tool of modern times". Yes, that's precisely why it is increasingly controlled and why we should diversify this kind of media, so that it's not only the BIG Players who operate. Monopolies are not good for any of us.

  • well said

  • Wow, what a stupid comment. Go watch Fox news if production value is more important to you than factual accuracy. Loser.

  • wow, that's a remarkably stupid comment. When you're ready to put on your man suit and actually consider facts intellectually, then come back and watch this video. Until then, stick with hollywood blockbusters and fox news, since clearly PRODUCTION VALUE is more important to you than FACTUAL ACCURACY. Jagoff.

  • everything about this video makes it difficult & irritating to watch. serious subject, hokey music, bad editing, cluttered office... like youtuber in basement free associating.

    overall impression: inept vid is cueing me not to take this guy (and subject) very seriously.

  • I'm sorry, I'm sorry, what should we learn ABOOT?

    Conspiracy aside, why shouldn't the citizen ask for cleaner facts about it? It's something that can be agreed upon. But to get there at least the citizens need to get organized and start passing their demands onto the govt that's supposed to represent 'em.

  • I didn't believe that our Government could do such a thing, but now I am convinced...how can I get involved in this tru th movement from Philadelpia?

  • There's 911 truth Philly. Im sure a google search will dig up somethin for you.

  • "Housed Government Agencies & Financial Institutions". Do we have to have a hammer hit us in the forehead to make us realize that government employees at the highest responsible levels agreed to allow this to happen to bury the Enron investigation , which was a complete and true exposure of massive bank fraud of historical proportions? If you were Bush and you planned it , would you really declare war on Iraq instead of doing the Obama thing , and want to forget about it immediately with aid.

  • looks at the world polls concerning 9/11. Canadians and Citizens of Mexico belief at a much higher percentage that it was a false flag. What do those two countries have to do with us? Well, they know us well, as they have been our neighbors since we became the usa. Its demonstrably more easy to see as a non-usa resident. Our neighbors can much better see it, for they have less of the 'patriotic chaff' and mainstream media to fight off for control of their independent thought. Retards no.

  • washingstonian - I agree , it is far easier to see and think clearly when you are not right on top of the situation. One such example is an American saying that "the WTC buildings or 911 had no effect on banking or the financial sector whatsoever". Meanwhile Enron disappeared in the process.

    google : obama campaign linked to chechen terrorism

  • Washingstonian: No - minor nations like Canada and Mexico view the US through the goggles of jealousy and even hatred. Like the Greeks with the Romans, the strong country is villified as evil, corrupt, brutish and stupid. Of COURSE these nations are more likely to believe insanely idiotic stories that villify the US and its hated president. Hey, add an evil, gargantuan spacegoat conjured by President Bush to the story and they'll STILL believe it!!

  • false flags are real. Concentration of power.

  • They count on people like you to keep controll. Fools, You will see the truth before the end of your time.

  • Yes, because playing trippy music and quoting wikipedia really legitimizes your argument.

  • Ain't nothing trippy about the music.

  • mthai66 - One love ... one heart .... let's get together and "get real high".

  • That dirty hippy killed reggae.

  • "Hey Frank"

    "Yeah"

    "This is the president - I need you and about forty to fifty people to set up bombs throughout the twin towers."

    "Sir?"

    "Yeah, we're going to blow them up with thousands of people in it. Make sure not to tell anyone or to have anyone else tell anyone or try to stop it."

    Really - you're so insanely deluded by your hatred of President Bush that you actually believe something like this could happened? No one would try to stop it? Are you people for real?

  • This is not how it happened. Not even close. Those buildings were wired after the 1993 bombing. Not for any nefarious purpose, but for public safety.

  • templarart - Absolutely. You know what? The occupants of the WTC arranged to have the jets crash into the buildings. Do you believe that? The way people are blaming Bush you'd think he said that. Listen carefully to what Bush says : he denounces the terrorists , and says they must be stopped. Even if it were staged horseshit , he said to America - let's bring them to justice. You'd think his words were being addressed to a crowd of military deserters.

  • If you educate yourself re PNAC [Project for a New American Century] then you will see that this Neo-Con think tank spoke prior to 911 of a requiring a quote "new Pearl Harbour" type event to get the public behind where they wanted to take USA in the 21st century. [i.e. perpetual war abroad and install a police state at home]

  • If you are unaware of the Neo-Cons perpetual war doctrines..

    Bush has said the war on terror will last decades.

    McCain has said publically the War on Terror will last a hundred years.

  • Maybe the war will last for decades... maybe one hundred years. Maybe it needs to. What has pacifism ever done but cost us millions of lives?

  • Truthers are paranoid idiots with no capacity to reason.

  • astounding discernment.

    you must have a magnificent brain.

  • If you want to be a conspiracy theorist just go ALL the way and be a creationist, naturopathic holocaust denier who believes that alien reptiles control the government.

    Otherwise live on planet earth and accept the scientific method complete with that awful "peer review". You'll find that no intricate conspiracy (especially THIS insanity) stands up to basic reason.

    Truther conspiracy isn't just extremely stupid, it's extremely dangerous. thatsjuststupid(.)com

  • I see you have an interview by Charles Goyette with Davin Coburn from Popular Mechanics listed in your favorites. Do you just think Davin is cute, or did you actually listen to the interview. Did you understand any of the questions being asked?

  • I understood them well enough to realize how stupid the questions were.... Seriously, do you enjoy getting laughed at? Is there a theory out there more retarded that you can advance... maybe grey aliens motivated by nazi amazons did it!!

  • Thank you Barrie, i've been feeling so lost as to where to take these ideas. I can't get past the discouragement i face at every turn.

  • The bogus war on terror is wearing very thin. People ARE questioning it! In reality they have been for some time now. Even the BBC has made 'documentaries' on the subject!

    The politicians & Corporates are finally seeing that people are more descerning than they realised.

    So...

    They're trying to bring back the 'Cold War' with the Russia & Georgia conflict (which is just another 'manufactured' crisis!)

    They should be extra careful though! When one re-freezes stuff it usually goes bad anyway!

  • I think Chomsky's point is that there is plenty of evidence to show that the Bush administration is made up of a bunch murderous criminals that doesn't rely on speculation about 9/11. When he says what difference does it make I understand that as it doesn't matter if you could prove that bush was responsible for the attacks or if the official story is completely accurate, the evaluation of the administration doesn't (or shouldn't) hinge on this question.

  • There are some interesting questions about what happened on 9/11 but the notion that it points to the Bush administration orchestrating the event seems weak. What would the point be in planting explosives to make sure the buildings collapsed. Planes definitely flew into the buildings. If planes flew into the buildings but the buildings didn't collapse it would make some difference but how much?

  • the people wouldn't die, it wouldn't be so apocalyptical. they needed something big.

  • Who cares about explosives, couldn't there be foul play without any? All it took was a short breech of security. The question is: are they as incompetent as they claim to be, or not?

  • Dill6543 says 'What would the point be in planting explosives to make sure the buildings collapsed.'

    Some points would be to to manipulate the people's profound terror and dread with these tools of mind control, please do look them up.

    1] Shock and awe [a military doctrine]

    2] Fear conditioning [Classical conditioning]

    3] Trauma based mind control

    Also cash was a factor, I believe the two towers contained much asbestos which would have been v expensive to replace with safer alts.

  • So what all of you are saying is that President Bush managed to talk Americans into killing thousands of their own people?

    Do you really, seriously understand the scope of how STUPID that is? Do you understand that President Clinton couldn't get away with screwing his intern but George Bush (1st term, 1st year in office) managed to pull off the worst attack on the US since Pearl Harbor?

    Idiot isn't nearly a strong enough term for anyone who believes this.

  • 210+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members

    170+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals

    ..who have all made public statements regarding their *gravely serious* concerns that the official story is deeply flawed, quite a few of them have publically stated they believe the USA gov's involvement.

    So 'templarart' do you say these retired *AMERICAN* Generals, Majors, Lt.Cols, ex-CIA staff, professors, engineers, etc, etc are all stupid conspiracy theorists too ?

  • In the words of Stan and Cartman of South Park:

    Cartman: "25% of Americans believe this - are you saying they're retarded?"

    Stan: "Yes Cartman, 25% of Americans ARE retarded."

  • Just like JFK I think it is pretty much proven! There is plenty of evidence lying right in front of your face that 9/11 is an inside job as well as JFK was killed by the establishment. Open your eyes!

  • slav IS full of shit or just too conditioned in this in this material world or you may be rite TRUTHprincess he probably is one of them....FAKE JEWS.

  • People, just like Zwicker, you totally misinterpreted Chomsky's message. You chase the ghost; allocate effort and energy into something that can never be solved, just like JFK. You focus your attention on the gun, while the gunman roams freely around.

  • "would they kill 1000's of their own people?"

    newsflash: "we" are not "their own" people.

  • music is so catchy! 9/11 is fun again wooooooo!

  • excellent

  • There's no official fire theory regarding WTC7, it's simply not mentioned in the 9/11 report.

  • NIST has hypothesis about the fire causing the collapse, of which they themselves say it is highly improbable.

    They are investigating it further, but of course they have no evidence to analyse; that's all gone.

  • The rubble may be gone, but there is still evidence. Even then, the 9/11 Conspiracy is pure, single malt, bullshit. It has all the classic elements of a classic paranoid fantasy and anyone who believes it is a pud.

    No, I'm not a CIA agent, don't be an idiot.

  • Thank you Barrie

  • Chomsky is a CIA agent.

  • This is the best video yet.

  • He's mostly talking about cognitive dissonance.

  • Thanks for forwarding, Bri.  ~Lucas in NYC

  • Good stuff.

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