Voennoe Delo: TOR - Russian Short Range Air Defence! (English subtitles)

[franknbeans4761]

Great video!

How effective is the TOR against the HARM? Or say a small missile like the Maverick or Hellfire? And how effective is it against a low observable weapon like a JSOW or JASSM?

As a final question, how resistant is it to jamming?

[BitnikGr]

@franknbeans4761 Tor intercepts targets flying with speeds up to 700m/s. HARM's speed is 630m/s. Other missiles you mentioned are even slower. Other aspect is a RCS. It is stated here that Tor can intercept a LGB. But I can't compare RCS of let's say 500lbs LGB and RSC of JASSM or Maverick.

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[BitnikGr]

@franknbeans4761 ...

Resistance to jamming depends on version.

The baseline Tor 9K330 (1984) is jamming prone and its missiles can be fooled more easier using countermeasures.

Tor-M1 9K331 (1991) has jamming-proof guidance channel and new warhead increasing hit probability and interception zone of low-flying targets. And it got 2 guidance channels. Still its missiles can be fooled with counter-measures as decoys and ECM.

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[BitnikGr]

@franknbeans4761 Tor-M1B (2007) received missiles more resistant to counter-measures like chaffs.

TOR-M2 9K332 (2008) is considered as new generation of SHORADS. With 4 guidance channels, increased effectiveness against saturation attack in jamming environment. Reduced crew from 4 to 3 men.

Contract with Libya for purchase of Tor-M2E wasn't accomplished. Only Belorussia will have Tor-M2 except Russia till 2014.

Iran has Tor M1 version.

[Carnuss]

Thanks for the English subtitle. Russia #1

[declaration963]

Too bad Voennoe Dello is discontinued after 2005, if not, they will review Pantsir S-1, the best Russian air defense system.

[BitnikGr]

@declaration963 There are rumors that "Voennoe Delo" was discontinued because it was "too objective" regarding foreign equipment. "VD" show was replaced by "Smotr", which became more patriotic oriented. However, "Smotr" has one good advantage over "VD" that it has a lot of inside footage from all vehicles, in contrast with an overall review "VD" has.

[MatoVuc]

@BitnikGr will you be translating that stuff too after you're done with this?

[BitnikGr]

@MatoVuc I don't know yet. I have about 40 episodes of "VD" to translate.

There are many documentary series out there "Udarnaya Sila", "Smotr", "Life in trenches", "Secrets of Russian firearms", "Weapons of victory", "Armor of Russia", "Artillery of Russia" and others.

I'll probably make a vote asking from subscribers what they want to see next.

[Panzerargentino2]

@BitnikGr we want more on rus small arms, well at list I do hehe

[MatoVuc]

what is the chassis based on? the lead vehicle looks like an MT-LB, but i can't recognise what chassis is used for the launcher itself.

[BitnikGr]

@MatoVuc Battery Command Post is MT-LB.

Tor's chassis is a GM-5955.

metrowagonmash.ru/english/gm59­55.htm

metrowagonmash.ru/english/gm59­55t.htm

[MatoVuc]

@BitnikGr speaking of, do you have anything on the MT-LB?

[BitnikGr]

@MatoVuc Nope. Since MT-LB is not a weapon system itself documentary producers don't show interest for it. Only to weapon systems based on MT-LB, like Strela, Gvozdika and Shturm AT.

[BOROZ28]

I read that Greece have bought it from the Russians, surprised that they did it.

[BitnikGr]

@BOROZ28 Greece also has Osa systems.

And S-300, but we didn't buy those S-300. Cyprus did. However, after fuzz from Turkey, those S-300 were transferred to Crete. For many years they remained non operational. And probably only in this year they will become fully operational.

Also, this year Greece will receive new missiles for Tors.

[BOROZ28]

@BitnikGr Why did Greece bought the Russian system, I am looking from the political side-It would be more logical to get it from a NATO country.