Responsibility - Christian Style

[dkthg]

This is the 21st century. Religion is UNNECESSARY!

[MrJohnnyrace]

RELIGIONS = REDICULOUS 

[Defhrone]

I wish I could explain aswell as you do. Great video's good and friendly approach makes a nice difference. It can be hard to not get frustrated when people don't seem to want to understand. Good job sir!

[DisembowelMe]

@alagodny28 Hm? I wasn't the one arguing the OP was an idiot.

[DisembowelMe]

@alagodny28 completely useless comment since you didn't outline what was so wrong about this video.

[th3dig1tal0n3]

Get your copilot NOW. $9.99 batteries not included.

:)

[vashcat]

Tao is my copilot.

[daddyg321]

I don't know what book this guy has been reading but it does'nt come close to any Bible I've ever read.

[eequalsfb]

@daddyg321 There is a long list of things that exist within Christian doctrine that are not represented in the bible. Some things I mention in the video might fall into that category, but I am not making these things up. I am listening to what Christians are saying.

My purpose was to show that these points of doctrine are maladaptive. I really couldn't care less whether they are derived from the bible.

But let's be honest, the bible does have far worse in it than what I've outlined here.

[daddyg321]

@eequalsfb The New Testament speaks of many false teachers in that time and many more to come, and most Christians today learn a very twisted form if not a totally false Christianity. I'm a Christian, I hear very little of what you claim from the "diluted church", if one whats to see true Christianity, the Amish are the closest I've seen.

[eequalsfb]

@daddyg321 I knew what you were getting at before: "True Christianity". The ol' No True Scotsman fallacy. Every Christian thinks they know the true interpretation of the bible. It's a shame the bible is so poorly written that for every 5 words in the New Testament there is a disagreement -- a distinct sect of Christianity. With almost 40,000 sects, you'd think people would lay off the notion of "true Christians".

I don't think there is such a thing.

[daddyg321]

@eequalsfb Again I must disagree, the Bible was written well for what it is intended to do, and people should not lay off the notion of true Christians. Only true Christianity works,all those who are mislead or intentionally misrepresent are worse off than those who have never heard of the Bible.

[beren082]

@daddyg321 Again, that's exactly what every other sect of Christianity (or any other religion) says about their particular sect. theirs is the true word of god, and all others are liars and charlatans. You can thank Martin Luther for this, but ultimately it underscores the fundamental flaw of all religion: every religion is just as pious, just as sure, and just as ready to die for their beliefs as any other. You have to ask: is this certainty really dependent on reality?

[daddyg321]

@beren082 And how many religions and sects do you know in detail ,or are you just going on about things yo ureally know nothing about?

[beren082]

@daddyg321 likely more then you. whatever group you belong to, I don't doubt that you've only ever "learned" anything from them. that's what they do. But I've studied the bible, I've studied the Koran, the Tibetan book of the dead, eastern religions, western religions, native American religions, and they're all as cocksure as any Christian, just as pious, and just as ridiculous.

But you've had this conversation before, and I don't doubt you'll ignore it, so move along.

[daddyg321]

@beren082 I wish i was as smart as an atheist ,so I could learn at the age of 21 what real schools would take decade to teach. A quick skim as directed to support someone elses agenda isn't knowledge to most people.

[beren082]

@daddyg321 and a cherry picked recitation by a man in a funny robe is called a cult by everyone.

Oh, I assure you that my advantage is not my lack of belief, or my age. I'm simply not afraid of the words "I don't know." It's one thing to be absolutely sure of something that has absolutely no supporting evidence, it's quite another to have found out for yourself, which I have. how much of an open mind do you bring to a mosque?

[DisembowelMe]

@daddyg321 What was the bible intended to do? 

[daddyg321]

@DisembowelMe I love it when people ask other people why God did this ,or what He meant by that. First you need to tell me why my grandfathers neighbor bought the dog he did. If you can't answer with certainty how could you expect any one to know why or how a being of superior knowledge, power and ability did what He did thousands of years ago. I can guess at best, and then you will try to twist.

[knowwaie]

You must know how silly this is.. If we should have learned anything by this point in time it's that hindsight can be illusive. It's possible to take any document and represent it in a negative manner. As language changed over time and we could have just as easily represented them with positive connotation.

Today the theological divisions are closing rapidly because of our ability to communicate via the internet. Much division was due more to language than differing philosophy.

[gooddarkjedi]

@daddyg321 a one falce profeth among others claming that he is right and everyone else is wrong. that is beasicly what jesus was. he was just as falce proffet as the ones he was attacking. allso i can prove that with the old testament. so christianity is beaciely herecy, and that make you...........................­......HERETIC!!!

[bluntman1138]

@gooddarkjedi You should take a few extra 1st grade spelling lessons.

[DJWalton314]

@eequalsfb i will not be affiliated with catholics they are the wrong way to do christianity

[Belloran24]

I totally agree. Human beings need to be on common ground and stop bringing out the deities to get some f***ed up version of cosmic justice. We could do it ourselves if we were just willing to deal honestly with each other.

[TaNgLeD2121]

wow.........just wow,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

cmon...........really?.... you believe this? this is what your living for?????

wow........ i truly feel for you,..............

you have this one life, and you have been brainwashed,........i really feel bad for people like you,.. but i understand why you think the way you do,..... really it takes a few years of education to understand quantum mechanics, abiogenises and evolution ....i know you hate me now because u were programed too,.. plz just think

[penguinlover51]

What exactly do you think that I have been brainwashed into believing? What exactly is a people like, like, as you seem to know me so well from a youtube comment? lol. And not only that but now your telepathic or a clairvoyant as you state that you know how I think. You then foolishly think that I nothing of naive sciences such as, Abiogenesis, evolution and quantum theory. And I don't even hate those who are coming at me with a knife, I just knock them out. Perhaps you need to see a shrink:).

[TaNgLeD2121]

ill steel a phrase from thunderfoot,,,,,,

why do people laugh at creationist?...... "only creationist dont know why

[Cactusroute]

Actually, Penguinlover and Awakener7 are the same person. That aside, yes, Awakeer7, it is possible - assuming you're being honest about your beliefs - to understand a lot abou how you think; for example, do you use deductive, inductive, or even abductive logic? None of the above - you regularly use 'dis-logic' - mangling facts and ideas to come up with self serving arguments which you think are 'proved' simply by being pompous and beligerent about them.

[Cactusroute]

'Brainwashed' implies an external malign inflence on your thought and emotional processes to exploit you. I think you developed your dis-logic yourself, to appease a weak and frightened ego that feels worthless in the world - that's why you're not only a religious prophet, but a martial arts one too by the looks of things. You do that because YOU want to brainwash others, until you get agreement from them on just how special-er than everyone else you are. That's a psychological condition.

[Cactusroute]

And it's also true that you delberately use a style which generates conflict, simply so you can create scenarios in which you can define your specialness - especially by recreating scenarios in which you get to lecture those who don't think you're super special, all about how special you are. You're re-creating life-long issues of feeling worthless, but this time, with you in a position as noble prophet. You are, actually, a cliche of a psychologically self serving relgious believer.

[markch9v23]

Jesus said: I am the light of the world

Jn 8.12

[middlekk]

Probably not.

Most of the quotes attributed to him were plagiarized.

Rabbi Hillel was the first person who came up with the "do unto others" concept.

[markofthebeasts]

i saw a great post somewhere .... atheism = developing a close, personal relationship with reality....

[minnescanada]

@markofthebeasts I like this very much.

[jesse0192]

theawakener is tehstupid.

he spelled "no" wrong.

[wb8594]

the bible is full of discusting acts of violence, slavery, genocide, rape all sponcered by your Abramic God.......for a fairy tale it reads worse than the brothers grimm.

[lampchin57]

good point

[LLCoolFerg]

There is no such thing as the word of god. The words written by men in the bible are contradictory. I'll give you several examples, but I know you will simply try to pathetically explain them away. I will not respond to your nonsense after this post.

Exodus 15:3 The lord is a man of war: the lord is his name.

Romans 15: 33 Now the god of peace be with you all: amen.

[LLCoolFerg]

2 Kings 2:11 "And elijah went up like a whorlwind to heaven"

John 3:13 "No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven."

I've put up, bitch. Now you shut up.

[tnuctnuc1]

LOL, how is that an answer, surely you don't think it is.

I loved the comment about indoctrination, hilarious you truly have no idea.

I had no opinion on the subject for most of my life until I reached my late teens early twenties, until I read the bible which I could not believe, I mean some of these stories are children's stories, they are pathetic and hold very little moral value.

Indoctrination implies there is some sort of doctrine to atheism, there is no such thing in atheism.

[lampchin57]

blood lineage in the old testament was more important then a moral message

same with laws

and in the new testament

it is a book to scare people into worship

and confessing sins is a catholic deal

to controll your actions through the church

why cant people do good just to do good

[wb8594]

i agree......atheism is only the rejection of the supernatural. Embrace reality........you will be much better off not believing in myths and fantasys.

[LLCoolFerg]

The Bible is continually contradicting itself. Please refrain from quoting it to try and help your arguements.

[sabertooth1980]

I was being sarcastic. It's from a story I read about "scientists" finding missing time by rewinding the sun's placement in the heavens, then the "scientist" finds were the missing time went in the bible. The book this story was in zooms out to the crazy street corner preacher praising his god and some teen ager saying "Wait, doesn't the earth revolve around the sun?" And the preacher saying "Get ye behind me satin! Facts have nothing to do with the Truth!"

Funny little lesson going on there.

[sabertooth1980]

Riiiiiiiight. After all facts have nothing to do with the truth.

[jursamaj]

Excellent summary of morals:

A Wombat's guide to moral behavior: diggercomic(dot)com/?p=292

[alixinthemiddle]

morality is simple - treat others the way you want to be treated.

if only people could learn the golden rule, life would be a lot easier.

[irendelle]

/How about a religion that will offer you a "pardon" for being bad?/

Wish there was a priest that can pardon the "unforgiveable sin" the bible says ... LOL.

[furyofbongos]

Amen!

[sabertooth1980]

Bible isn't proof in of itself.

[LLCoolFerg]

Well, of course it's not proof of anything. It is a fictional book written by ignorant, fearful men. It's not even slight proof of anything. It's just a book.

[ptica11]

hail wonko

[Nashy119]

This responsibility thing goes for most religions, in Scientology it is completely obvious.

People who assume that the world is bad (as bad as they have been) but they are the only one's who changed to be good... they worry me.

I wonder how many bad things they must had done having accepted that they were normal before accusing me of them, and how bad they were.

[beriukay]

That about sums up all my experience with the Born-Agains. They did terrible stuff all their life up to the point where they realized they would die or spend the rest of their life in prison if they kept it up. No wonder they think everyone else is abjectly depraved, they're projecting all their inadequacies on the rest of the world.

In that sense, I think maybe I'd prefer them thinking they're good than them going to jail for shooting me while trying to get money to score more blow.

[superwolf76]

Where I may not agree that all 'born-agains' enter the 'royal priesthood' via those means, I would agree that deep down, they do think everyone is depraved. Why else would Jesus be needed? He's didn't die for a select few depraved souls. Also, there's this desire for perfection, which in unattainable. The religion is inherently divisive, yet masquerades as inclusive. Will you have enough faith and love to be a part of their cosmic clique? Eternal praise to an immutable God. Bleck!

[irendelle]

"Also, there's this desire for perfection, which in unattainable. The religion is inherently divisive, yet masquerades as inclusive."

WOW! Could've have said it better. Unity in diversity I presume? But diversity in what?

[superwolf76]

Do you mean 'couldn't have'?

Either way, I'm not sure what you mean concerning unity in diversity, irendelle. What I mean is, I don't see how your question relates to my point. I'm interested in what you mean. Can you elaborate or embellish a little?

[calhoun81670]

Great vid, I just subscribed because of it.

[Bowmaj21]

It's always bothered me, why should I feel guilty about something that the supposed first people did?

If a police officer came to my house and said "We recently found out that your deceased Great Grandfather was a mass murderer, so you are under arrest for being his only living decendant" I'd be very confused!

I wanna know why God seems to value beliefs over actions! No Christian has ever given me a straight answer to that!

[SisyphusRedeemed]

Very well put. 5*.

[LoverofReason]

I'm glad to see that reason is still able to penetrate the mind of humanity. Right on, my man!

[moo5682]

okay so you would rather be damned to hell instead of being given forgivness and I would like to see you prove your theory that we can do whatever (and to do that you can stay atheist)

[Krocotto]

Oh, yeah. First, give us the proof, sadist. I've never seen such orgasmic joy as when xians fire up their judgment about hell. It's as if burning people smarter than themselves is their only real pleasure....

'Course, given the history of xianity, that's probably true...

[draagon66]

moo5682:

Forgiveness? For what?

Are you of the variety that assumes that we must have a god to have decent moral lives?

What are your sins? Have you really been forgiven? Has your responsibility been assuaged?

Lucky you. You found a scapegoat, nothing more.

[Elvisdogg]

I repent! bless me father, for i have sinned... i have been watching films made by eequalsfb.

[Nihility83]

Thank you for what you do.

[NonStampCollector]

Yeah. Great video!

[ANDR3W1848]

Brilliant! Where do you find all those images?

[fantasy0coach]

That'd be why they keep killing us.

[gibbonsinthelibrary]

Accountability: Not a Christian value

[UcanbeGOD]

Bravo! 5 stars.

[MarlenLife]

cool thanks

[cbell003]

very true!

[bootrous]

As I see it we have 3 choices which are not hypocritical:

1) We accept the bible as god's word and therefore bow down to its every word and its literal meaning.

2) We reject the bible as an imaginative bunch fairy tales written a very long time ago by some bearded men(therefore not just cherry-picking the "good messages")

or

3) We agree that there are some messages in the new testament which are positive and based on this rewrite the bible so that it is fitting for the time we are currently in.

[thatgaybloke]

The abdication of all responsibility for actions and their consequences is one of the most disturbing aspects of Christianity. Add to that the fundamentalist belief that any minute The Rapture will sweep the Earth clean and you have no reason to do anything to make the world a better place. The underlying philosophy of Christianity is to maintain the status quo. That way, the religious leaders get to stay in charge.

[eequalsfb]

Indeed. It's an unproductive mindset.

About the rapture, I find the political interest in Israel to be frightening. Sixty years ago, men (who had access to the Holy Bible) established the state of Israel. Today that is considered, by some, a fulfilled prophecy.

Let's hope we can keep these clowns from "fulfilling" the rest of revelation.

Yikes.

[thatgaybloke]

Well, isn't Armageddon supposed to be the ultimate war fought in the Middle East? Give McCain and Palin the nuclear codes and some more falsified documents about weapons of mass destruction and we're just about there.

[micp4130]

i absolutely agree

[SexyMelon]

Jesus dying "for" our sins is a peculiar concept, really. Isn't that nice, punishing someone else for what YOU have done (or, in case of Christianity, haven't done)? As if that's not enough, Jesus got away with three days in hell rather than eternity... Gah. Sounds like a carbon copy of literal scapegoating that was common among some tribes in ancient times.

What am I on about. Great video! Love the soothing voice-over. :)

[Cyraside]

Add even worse Adam and Eve didn't actually exist so let me guess, the "original" sin was symbolic? Now I know why the creationists are so intent with "proving" Genesis with pseudo-scientific claims such as Intelligent Design. The more we learn the more the Bible falls apart.

[SexyMelon]

Shit. That actually explains quite a lot... No Garden of Eden, no original sin, no need for Jesus to die on a cross...

[6gording6]

Well you have to think about it we cant be so quick to judge others.For one you yourself are judging someone else,wich in no way makes you diff. Its a bit of a paradox,but in the end its just about loving and living.Would you agree that most drug addicts are missing something?Suffer?Though they are "christians" who opress them more they are those which do not rather hope they find love.After all the point of the cross is to show us the love of God.

[SexyMelon]

"Well you have to think about it..."

I wish people would do that more often.

[Misterb0z]

I dangle a little fried man on an electric chair around my neck to remind me of God's love.

[eequalsfb]

3 pots of coffee and still soothing? Thanks!

;]

[mconn2112]

Excellent vid buddy. If all Christians followed the tenets of their doctrine we would devolve as a society and be stoning each other to death. Wouldn't that be something.

[6gording6]

Well if they followed the tenents of the bible which is to love thy neighbor as yourself and forgive one another than yea,we are completely devolving because love is what keeps us alive.

[SexyMelon]

You mean if they cherry-picked and followed a few good verses among thousand that scream bloody murder. Yeah, that would be nice of them.

[mconn2112]

6gording6:

Too bad the whole thing isn't filled with love because that would be a consistent message that Christians could actually use to prove a point.

Why do people need to follow the rules of a 2000 year old collection of writings, allegorical or not, to love one another and respect those poeple enough not to judge them if their belief or worldview does not match the bible god's?

[Spades1187]

I we followed the tenets of the bible, homosexuals would be stoned to death, non christians would be murdered, adulterers would be executed, and holy war would rage around the world. That's called the Dark Ages.