@saotomi5102 hey. U know why music is so amazing? Everyone has their own interpretation of it and it can have such a different effect depending on how u listen to it. I would suggest listening to it in any damn way u feel like. Awesome piece tho, i don understand why people don't like it. I didn't even know it was atonal at first cause everything makes musical sense to me
Now, I guess I don't have the same taste in music as most modern composers, but I like my music to sound good as well as having an appreciation for the skill required to play it.
It seems modern composer's feel like they need to distinguish themselves by writing atonal, arhymic music. It's not so. Look up "Three Moods for Wind Quintet," that's a piece of music written recently that sounds beautiful and requires extreme skill to play.
@pwebsers Don't think of it like that. Music, especially Carter's was never about proving one's self. Think of it as this: Sometime minor chords aren't sad enough, or major chords aren't happy. Don't listen to this for it's purpose and technique, but rather its emotion. What does each section sound like and how does it make you feel?
Check out the Carter documentary (it's round here...) called Music in Time. Just as Beethoven, and Brahms, and Ravel, and Schoenberg heard images in their mind's eye - so does Carter. These pieces are the result. I have always 'seen' musical imagery. Whether it's Hall and Oats, Alabama, Suffocation, or Carter.....
It's as if he is speaking with his oboe, whereas playing Mozart would equal singing. If only I could understand what he is saying... I play the oboe, but do not understand this language.
My reed would catch a flame from playing this......and my cors anglais would commit suicide 1/2 way through this VERY~! 20TH cENTURY! piece, love it though. As much as I love classical music and theory that creates pleasant harmonies, and countermelodies I 'm also in love with the extreme disonance and vigor[almost] of this piece; I disagree highly with sergeantmuffins, and believe that this music takes just as much skill as mozart[e.g. think of ALL OF the syncopation in this piece! And awkward
I am a trained composer . I would'nt go as far as sergeantmuffins below but really think Carter is way overrated. Forget the technical difficulties-I do not think it is very good music.Serial music has always gained great respectablility in universities but much is empty musically. This sort of music suppressed better American composers who wrote more tonal music eg Piston( symphony no2) or David Diamond ( eg symphony 3). Nicholas Daniel is one great oboist though.
@blueyedboy84 Define trained composer. Also, not only is this not serialist but you should remember that the reason some music is not listened to much is because it is not enjoyable to listen to, to play or to think about. I think Piston and Diamond are pretty unadventurous tbh.
@blueyedboy84 You're 'trained'? Then perhaps you can demonstrate serial structure in Carter for me. He has used twelve-pitch-class simultaneities (particularly those that contain a different interval between each adjacent dyad), but these aren't related by the normal serial operations. Nor can his rhythms be explained (as far as I know) by some sort of analogue of the pitch-class twelve-tone system. Am I missing something?
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This type of music would fit good as ambient music in a scary movie.
But as standalone symphonic music, it just shows I can shit on sheet paper and get my work performed by the BBC Symphony Orchestra. I'm going to call it, "An Elegy for my Bowel Movements".
Apart from the multiphonics and fabulous technique, the thing that amazes me is the perfect control of crescendi and diminuandi as well has the tremendous range of vibrato used. I also like that you give full sonority to those bottom notes and the clarion like quality of the high notes. A truly committed performance.
Nevertheless123: Carter did gop through a neoclassical pahse early in his Carter and wrote some lovely pieces, esp. a pastorale for clarinet (or engish horn or viola) and piano, and an elegy that he's arranged for various instruments. They're easy to find.
@Chalky2007 Still, reading Shakespeare in high school often times felt like reading encrypted text. It may be the same language on the surface, but at the core it is different. Just because I can't wrap my head around it I don't call it crap.
Something i find interesting about the oboe is it seems almost like it has it's own voice. How it is played really says something about the music. Absolutely wonderful.
Elliott Carter's Oboe concerto speaks to another world.. one may add that unconsciously his wind writing is inert and provides NO LIMITS, Mozart on the other hand, always provoked arpeggios and cadenzas where no one had even tough of !! I like the freedom of the instrument.
Concerto in D major op.144 is a sublime breath of the classical economical scoring! lush sounds reaching the natural breath of the Oboe, Strauss make the Oboe sing, but maintains his parallel line trough the complete piece... I like it very much!! another piece of art!
A fantastic Oboe player. A great piece. Thank God for You Tube!!!
ronoman88 7 months ago
Very interesting interpretation of what's ''sound'',about how you should approach an orchestral colour.With respect but also with nerve!:)
xatzidakis 8 months ago
@saotomi5102 hey. U know why music is so amazing? Everyone has their own interpretation of it and it can have such a different effect depending on how u listen to it. I would suggest listening to it in any damn way u feel like. Awesome piece tho, i don understand why people don't like it. I didn't even know it was atonal at first cause everything makes musical sense to me
djjjamin 8 months ago
excellent playing on daniel's part, but...UGH.
Now, I guess I don't have the same taste in music as most modern composers, but I like my music to sound good as well as having an appreciation for the skill required to play it.
It seems modern composer's feel like they need to distinguish themselves by writing atonal, arhymic music. It's not so. Look up "Three Moods for Wind Quintet," that's a piece of music written recently that sounds beautiful and requires extreme skill to play.
pwebsers 9 months ago
@pwebsers Don't think of it like that. Music, especially Carter's was never about proving one's self. Think of it as this: Sometime minor chords aren't sad enough, or major chords aren't happy. Don't listen to this for it's purpose and technique, but rather its emotion. What does each section sound like and how does it make you feel?
saotomi5102 9 months ago
@pwebsers
Check out the Carter documentary (it's round here...) called Music in Time. Just as Beethoven, and Brahms, and Ravel, and Schoenberg heard images in their mind's eye - so does Carter. These pieces are the result. I have always 'seen' musical imagery. Whether it's Hall and Oats, Alabama, Suffocation, or Carter.....
aculturemind 6 months ago
awesome performance of an awesome piece!
danterosati 10 months ago
It's as if he is speaking with his oboe, whereas playing Mozart would equal singing. If only I could understand what he is saying... I play the oboe, but do not understand this language.
Lawrencelot89 11 months ago
notes and rythms , truely a feat of the skill of the oboist,
emoemoemo13666 1 year ago
My reed would catch a flame from playing this......and my cors anglais would commit suicide 1/2 way through this VERY~! 20TH cENTURY! piece, love it though. As much as I love classical music and theory that creates pleasant harmonies, and countermelodies I 'm also in love with the extreme disonance and vigor[almost] of this piece; I disagree highly with sergeantmuffins, and believe that this music takes just as much skill as mozart[e.g. think of ALL OF the syncopation in this piece! And awkward
emoemoemo13666 1 year ago
I am a trained composer . I would'nt go as far as sergeantmuffins below but really think Carter is way overrated. Forget the technical difficulties-I do not think it is very good music.Serial music has always gained great respectablility in universities but much is empty musically. This sort of music suppressed better American composers who wrote more tonal music eg Piston( symphony no2) or David Diamond ( eg symphony 3). Nicholas Daniel is one great oboist though.
blueyedboy84 1 year ago
@blueyedboy84 Carter never wrote serial music....Atonal yes, serial no.
Incoherents 1 year ago
@blueyedboy84 Define trained composer. Also, not only is this not serialist but you should remember that the reason some music is not listened to much is because it is not enjoyable to listen to, to play or to think about. I think Piston and Diamond are pretty unadventurous tbh.
Symbioticism 11 months ago
@blueyedboy84 You're 'trained'? Then perhaps you can demonstrate serial structure in Carter for me. He has used twelve-pitch-class simultaneities (particularly those that contain a different interval between each adjacent dyad), but these aren't related by the normal serial operations. Nor can his rhythms be explained (as far as I know) by some sort of analogue of the pitch-class twelve-tone system. Am I missing something?
zachbernst 5 months ago
@blueyedboy84 A "trained" composer who doesn't understand the inherent parameters for writing serial music and thinks that it is merely arbitrary?
I'd be surprised if you even had any sort of mastery over diatonic tonality, let alone non-serial atonal music.
AfroDeezeeYak 2 weeks ago
elliot carter just told nick to do everything my conductor would have smacked me for doing
amazing on both ends
theothercanadian 1 year ago
Play All Day......and/or.....Good Stuff
22Burnette 1 year ago
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This type of music would fit good as ambient music in a scary movie.
But as standalone symphonic music, it just shows I can shit on sheet paper and get my work performed by the BBC Symphony Orchestra. I'm going to call it, "An Elegy for my Bowel Movements".
SergeantMuffins 1 year ago
Such a incredable preformance ! Respect ! The perfect control of the sound ,air and fingers.
Mpaka 1 year ago
Apart from the multiphonics and fabulous technique, the thing that amazes me is the perfect control of crescendi and diminuandi as well has the tremendous range of vibrato used. I also like that you give full sonority to those bottom notes and the clarion like quality of the high notes. A truly committed performance.
oboist2 1 year ago 2
very intense
Tamster107 1 year ago
your a very talented man.
yulkatk06 1 year ago
hahahahaha 3:14 sounds like a lasser gun
danielsoberanis 1 year ago
I love'it is totally colorful beautiful
Dionydejesus 1 year ago
Wonderfuly clear! And what an awesome conductor! Full of character
freddydiamant 1 year ago
this needs to be fantasia'd
Fred82187 1 year ago
that's absolute CONTROL playing oboe. BRAVO
claricordia 1 year ago
I play violin, but it would still be very painful to look at his sheet music.
ryanmiranda4160157 2 years ago
Not appropriate for small children. Scary music
123musicole123 2 years ago
"Pure garbage" -- there's an oxymoron.
Nevertheless123: Carter did gop through a neoclassical pahse early in his Carter and wrote some lovely pieces, esp. a pastorale for clarinet (or engish horn or viola) and piano, and an elegy that he's arranged for various instruments. They're easy to find.
IFStravinsky 2 years ago
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bcooly11 2 years ago
Thanks a lot!
ctimur 2 years ago
Wow, I had never heard this piece before....I think I might put it on my senior recital....or at least part of it.
mommyoboe 2 years ago
I am not musically educated enough to not hear crap.
Chalky2007 2 years ago
@Chalky2007 Still, reading Shakespeare in high school often times felt like reading encrypted text. It may be the same language on the surface, but at the core it is different. Just because I can't wrap my head around it I don't call it crap.
pviola314 1 year ago
Nice. extremely complex orchestral colors. Like some very modern painting.
Does carter have neoclassical pieces? would love to listen to them,
nevertheless123 2 years ago
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PURE GARBAGE.
organman52 2 years ago
interesting intellectual criticism. What a burk.
wroclawmonkey 2 years ago
We had to wait nearly 50 years for this, but it was worth the wait.
mikern2001 2 years ago
i play oboe too
1003220 2 years ago
What an amazing performance! Thank you so much for posting this.
hizzogg 2 years ago 3
Wow. Carter is the greatest living American Composer. What a mind!
sonicpsychiatry 2 years ago
Something i find interesting about the oboe is it seems almost like it has it's own voice. How it is played really says something about the music. Absolutely wonderful.
Xternium 2 years ago
Elliott Carter's Oboe concerto speaks to another world.. one may add that unconsciously his wind writing is inert and provides NO LIMITS, Mozart on the other hand, always provoked arpeggios and cadenzas where no one had even tough of !! I like the freedom of the instrument.
conscium et humilitates
Curetiamhices 2 years ago
finally! a composer that lets the Oboe shine!!!! not saying that Mozart's writing was bad.. but no one ever wrote like paganini for the oboe!
Curetiamhices 2 years ago 11
What about the Strauss concerto?
Haeronthegreat 2 years ago 2
Concerto in D major op.144 is a sublime breath of the classical economical scoring! lush sounds reaching the natural breath of the Oboe, Strauss make the Oboe sing, but maintains his parallel line trough the complete piece... I like it very much!! another piece of art!
Curetiamhices 2 years ago 2
@Curetiamhices You mean like a virtuoso piece? Then you should really listen to 'le api' from Antonio Pasculli. He is the paganini for oboe :)
blb8530 1 year ago
@blb8530, thanks for the recommendation, I will have find "le api" from Pasculli. thanks!
Curetiamhices 1 year ago
@Curetiamhices
Dude, Pag wadn nuttin on 'is, yo.
God this is awesome, all round.
aculturemind 1 year ago
If I sounded like Nicholas Daniel, I would also perform concerti with my shirt untucked and unbuttoned.
clogricki 3 years ago 34
I love the way he writes for the oboe.
melpasculli 3 years ago
I love the oboe. incredible!
manuelmoramorales 3 years ago
Thanks for uploading this!!
sequenzaVII 3 years ago