Brad Sellers was a 7-foot non-factor, Dave Corzine was older than his jersey, Sam Vincent was above average and Young Oak was an emerging beast. But that #23 dude? Now that dude was a PROBLEM!
Dave Corzine, Brad Sellers, Sam Vincent, and Oak. Oak's the only guy who remotely came close to doing anything even as a role player. And people said Lebron had a bad supporting cast this year. Try playing with these jerk offs at the height on the NBA.
they were so similar with today's Celtics, the big three plus a star PG. Only Bird was an ultimate shooting machine, much better than Ray. Ray is a 3pt shooter, Bird was a scorer and a shooter.
hoopsencyclopedia, is 5 10, white and can dunk easily. what do you mean white people can't jump? It's just about the training individuals do to get their own jump to be high enough to dunk. However for me, I personally used the exercise program over at 50inch vertical[dot]com
MJ played a lot at the point guard position this season in spite of the criticism he has endured from NBA critics, claiming that "MJ can't improve the performance of his teammates." MJ went on to have one of the greatest single seasons of any player in the history of the game posting numbers such as 32.5 ppg, 8.0 rbpg, 8.0 apg, and 2.9 steals per game.
dennis johnson made quite a few 1st and 2nd team all defensive teams,and ainge was an underrated defender, jordan probably could have done this on anyone back then
Michael Jordan & Pippen were true prototypes. The only other athletic guard i can think of during this era were Clyde Drexler and a young Ron Harper. Every other SG were typical 6"4" or smaller one dimensional shooters like Danny Ainge, Hersey Hawkins, Byron Scott, Fat Lever, Jeff Hornacek. The guy guarding Jordan in this video is Dennis Johnson who was 6"3". Lebron, Kobe, Wade would be tearing up those 6"4" shorties too. This video isn't evidence to dump on Lebron or kobe.
@aronsonstack Athleticism and height doesn't equate to defensive performance. Will, determination, and perseverance are the more essential factors. You forgot to mention Starks, WIlkins (played SG a lot), Iverson, Miller, Kobe, Magic, Payton, and the list goes on. You also forgot to mention how Jordan had to battle double and even triple teams throughout his career and the hand-check. The league is much softer now and rules were implemented to make is easier for players to score.
@aronsonstack Wrong, MJ was not a prototype. Did you forget that Julius Erving and Dominique Wilkins were 6'6 and 6'7 guards-forwards that were extremely athletic. Look at Kobe's biggest competition, that's right is there is none because Wade is a PG and Lebron is a PF and both don't guard Kobe when they face the Lakers. How about the fact that Kobe is the only SG in the league that can play great defense, MJ played tons of guards that were known for their stellar defense
@aronsonstack The only other good SG in the league I can think of is Brandon Roy. Kobe has faced numerous has beens throughout his career such as McGrady, Vince Carter, and Iverson. Iverson is the only player who was consistent throughout his career. MJ faced Drexler, Erving, Wilkins, Starks, Miller, Dumars, Payton, Magic, Maxwell, Stackhouse, Hill, Iverson, and Kobe himself. All these players I have mentioned have been assigned to guard Jordan whenever they faced the Bulls. Look it up!
Well I watch this video on Saturday, DEC 12, 2009, and later on this day Celtics at Bulls (United Center though). Maybe Derrick Rose will do this to the Celtics tonight.
God damn@those numbers the Celtics' frontcourt players were putting up. Bird was droppin' 30 in '88? I thought '86 or '87 had been his last dominate year.
the weightlifting helped jordan's durability during the two three-peats, but it definitely eliminated the easy weightlessness of his game in the early and late 80s, when he just seemed to float in the air effortlessly to the basket.
whoever compares my idol to either one of those bitch ass/crying ass niggas kobe or lebron, needs to watch this video, MJ did this shit on bird and the celtics in 88. the nigga always been great at scoring, defending, and productive. just dont make those statements please, he like Micheal Jackson's album sales, you can fuck with it, so just beat it!
the difference between kobe and mj is in intensity of game.
Bryant is the best player in the world at the moment but the aggressiveness in the 2 extremes of the court you will never see on a basketball court ... MJ the best in the history
Jordan had to score because although Pippen became one of the best players ever, it's not like in 1987 he just came in dominating (like jordan did his rookie year). In fact Pippen had to fight for playing time against Brad Sellars. Pippen didn't start emerging till 1989 and even then it was a couple years till he really got recognized during the Bulls first Championship run. Bird and Magic always had better teammates during the early 80s and more of them.
Bird had Mchale Parish Dennis Johnson. Magic had Kareem, Cooper, Worthy, Scott. Jordan had Oakley who was a good rebounder and defender. But the bulls had no real second option. Even though they had John Paxson, he didn't see many minutes and his scoring output was limited. It wasn't until the 88-89 Season that Jordan's teammates started getting real productive and as a result of that, plus putting Jordan at point guard, Jordan averaged 8 rb 8 as. and 32 pts, getting quite a few triple doubles.
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Jordan was the "Greatest Shooting/Scoring Guard Ever", but NOT the "Best Player Ever", Not Even Close the "Most Complete Ever" and Not The "Most All Around Ever". Jordan was Great at his position thats it.
hes by far the most complete all around player ever. not only is he 1st all time ppg, he is 2nd all time in steals...and to still get 6 rebounds and 8 assists per game is amazing.
Not to mention that he's #1 all time in blocks for a guard and #3 all time in rebounds for a guard. Some folks just don't realize how good he was at BOTH ends of the floor.
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Jordan is the greatest one on one Shooting Guard of All Time, probaly Greatest Defending Shooting Guard and one of the fasted-jumpers and athletic players of all Time. But in complete Game Bird and Magic where way superior, while Jordan was scoring on his usually slower and shorter opposing Guards Bird and Magic where making their teams better with witts and inumerable TRIPLE DOUBLES. Jordan`s damage against the opponents looked nicer while Bird`s and Magic`s was silent and witty minded
Pippen, A Top 50 Player of All Time, One of the Most Complete Smallforward Ever and Could Play Point-Shooting and Smallforward At the Smae Time. Pip`s scoring and assits averages would have doubled if he would have played in another team in his Prime Days. Jordan also played with Charles Oakley a Top Rebounder and Defensive Player, Horace Grant one of the Best Defending Powerforward Ever, Kerr and Paxon 3-Point Shooting Machines, Rodman Top Defender and Rebounder, Kukoc 1 of the Most Underrated!
Uh...what's your point? Just because Magic was Kareem's teammate, that doesn't mean Kareem wasn't the best scoring center of all time.
Your trying to appear smart by criticizing conventional wisdom. You sound just as stupid as every 19 year old english major who decides they need to take Shakespeare down a peg or two. Every year there are a thousand assholes like you popping up. You fade away and the legend remains. All you manage to do is show your desperate ignorance.
This guy was one heck of an athlete. Funny enough, it seems as though this bulls roster had the ability to excel and progress futher than they had done during the 87-88 season playoffs. In my opinion atleast, this side was formidable but too inconsistent. Especially if one considers that less preassure was put upon mj to do most of the scoring. However, this was an exciting time.
This guy Eggsucker knows absolutely nothing about basketball. To compare a chucker like Iverson to Jordan is absolutely ridiculous. The thing Jordan cared most about over everything else was winning and he would do that at any cost. Jordan never had the luxury of playing with a stacked team, like the Celtics and Lakers.
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MJ's performance in this game shows why the NBA and US basketball has been in such a decline. Basketball is and had been a team sport--showtime lakers, 86 celtics, bad boy pistons. With jordan, it became all about the individual superstar: AI, Shaq, Jordan, Kobe, Lebron.
eggsucker,stfu bitch and go suck an egg. you're a bitter little celtic or laker fan who won no more titles in the 90s get lost bitch jordan destroyed your teams in the 80s
You know, as crazy as it may sound, I think you actually have a valid point. But I wouldn't blame it on Jordan altogether. I mean, can you blame him for having been far superior than others? I don't think he realized back then that he was actually jeopardizing the integrity of basketball. Instead, I think he was just passionate about the game, and he played it to the best of his abilities. And why not? Why should he have held back? Ultimately the objective is to win, and win he did.
I agree with your point on US basketball becoming too commercialized (more than ever before) with superstar players being treated more like Hollywood stars rather than celebrity athletes (emphasis on athletes). But that's because the public so desperately wants another Jordan, that we start labeling players and begin sentimentalizing them. This creates a collective atmosphere in which we encourage players to adopt and carry out an all too singular agenda--becoming the next Jordan.
What I'm saying is Jordan just played the game of basketball. But he did it so fucking well that WE made him a superstar. WE did. And he left in his wake the echoes of his greatness. His echo is still being heard in the form of individual superstars rising up a la Shaq, Lebron, Kobe, etc. Without the public making such a big deal about being the next Jordan, I don't think these players would be so individualistic. So yes, U.S. basketball is at a decline but it's our fault, not Jordan's
Jordan was arguably the greatest player of all time. But basketball is a team sport. And the Bulls at their best with Jordan--would have lost to the 86 Celtics or Pat Riley Lakers; the same way Wilt lost to the Celtics of that era. Disagree? Name one player besides Jordan who would have started on either 80s celts or lakers?
Jordan was arguably the greatest player of all time. But basketball is a team sport. And the Bulls at their best with Jordan--would have lost to the 86 Celtics or Pat Riley Lakers; the same way Wilt lost to the Celtics of that era. Disagree? Name one player besides Jordan who would have started on either 80s celts or lakers?
ah pippen asshole,ah grant asshole ah paxson asshole ah rodman asshole ah toni kucko asshole. you actually think jordan couldn't destroy the celtics when he almost did it by himself in the 85 86 playoff series. scoring 63points on the like it was nothing...with the triangle offense bostons bigs would of been in a world of shit...then jordan would dunk all day
I love when people say stuff like this. Have you never watched sports? Just lining up great players does not equate to wins. That's how you make a fantasy squad.
Quick question: who was the best player on the Yankee's all-time winningest team? Ruth? DiMaggio? Mantle? Nope, it was Bernie Williams.
Dennis Johnson, no chance. I like them showing smoothness of bird in here to. Jordan just abusing the defenders feet then having crazy finishes. Just amazing.
I would have loved to see Michael Jordan play a full game when he had his shot on. On nights when he couldnt miss, he rested for extended periods of time, or got his teammates involved. (B'ball IS a team sport) But on nights when he dropped 63 on the Celtics (playoffs), or 69 on the Cavs, he was benched or didn't shoot. If I recall, he had only 2 points the first quarter when he dropped 69 in against the Cavs. Given all opporunity, I believe MJ could have had several 100, or close to it nights.
well he would have a harder time but I think he would still score a bit on Pip. Bird was incredibly deceptive and moved well without the ball, so that aspect of his game would still give Pip fits.
naw pippen was great at defending ball handlers, and penetraters, bird played of screens and played in the post with jordan like fadeaways. Bird would still have his way with pip in pip's defensive prime as he did with most great defenders of his day
heyas hoops. mad props with the videos, love em! just thought if you encoded your videos directly to flv format with riva encoder, youll make your videos far clearer, itll removed the blockiness. i suggest 320 x 240 res and 300 kbs bitrate, video with 80 kbs audio. theyll come out sweet :-) :-)
Hoops started the craze, and his collection is still easily the standard, but there are a lot of users who have great Jordan game collections. Search for these users and be amazed: joleroke, starks23, det916, jxn23, and kOrOne79.
Sorry! I forgot to add Balthus23 to this list too. TRJ22487--I call him "the Cape Cod Cameraman"--has also posted some great games by Jordan. Anyone else that's posted Jordan games on the Internet, message me and I'll give a shout out to you too.
I'm so tired of this MJ-Kobe debate. Bottom line: there IS no debate. Kobe's good, but nowhere CLOSE to Jordan, period. So enough of that. Also, sorry to hawk other people's vids on here, Hoops, but y'all should check out Starks23's most recent video, 92 playoffs, Bulls-Heat to see what I think was MJ's near or absolute peak--outside game almost as good as 95-98, and athleticism still off-the-charts, with the viciousness that only MJ and maybe Nique have ever had insofar as dunking.
(cont) It's much harder to make plays and get guys involved when you're jacking 25-footers, can't get into the lane at will, and can't gain and maintain post position as easily. Never mind the difference in their vision, passing skill, and willingness to pass the ball. Also efficiency: there's less of a tendency for your teammates to dislike the fact that you're taking 22+ shots when you're hitting 51+% of them as opposed to 44-45% of them.
Jordan's game was just much more conducive to team ball in many ways. He gave 100% effort on the defensive end, which is contagious. He didn't take 75% of the game -- or entire games -- off like Kobe does. He penetrated far more easily than Kobe does, drawing defenders and allowing kickouts to spot-up shooters or dump-offs to big men underneath for finishes. He was an outstanding post player, which again collapsed defenses and allowed the ball to be swung for high quality looks. (cont)
There's a Bulls/Lakers game from '98 up on youtube from the user "creamsugar82", but it doesn't show the entire game or every Jordan/Kobe basket. I'm pretty sure it's that game (but it may be another one) where Jordan dunks on Kobe off a spin-off near the FT line and alley-oop. Kobe tries to recover and elevates to block the shot, but Jordan two hands it ON him, literally. I'm pretty sure I didn't imagine this, and I wish someone would put the full game up.
There's no way I imagined it. It was in LA, Jordan faked like he was coming out to meet a pass and Kobe overplayed him; he spun off him backdoor and caught a lob which he jammed over Kobe as Kobe recovered. Definitely didn't imagine this because I remember a separate play from the same game where Jordan drove Kobe right, went between his legs and then was instantly on Kobe's left side, and the ref called Kobe on the foul for holding. My imagination is not THAT vivid. :P
mj was in great shape at 34-35 yrs old.he also has a better understanding for the game in 96-98.i hope hoops that you can post the game at staples between mj and kobe in 98.just a request bro.
What is there to "clear up"? Jordan played Kobe when he was 34+ years old. Unless you're one of those guys who thinks Kobe dropped 42 points in the first half on Jordan in 2003 when Jordan didn't guard him a single possession of that half lol.
I'll be posting the first game against each other soon. But it's never been 'against' each other since MJ was dominating with the Bulls when KB was young and was sitting on the bench with KB playing garbage minutes. At age 40 on the Wiz, MJ was a SF. What's there to clear up? If KB shot 50% even for one season maybe there might be something worth talking about for once.
Not to mention in the game that Jordan posted 36, and Kobe 33... Kobe did literally 60% of his scoring while Jordan was benched. 16 in the 4th when the game was long over.
BTW, in the 63 vs Celtics, you should've posted Bird's huge 3 point buzzer beater. That was awesome :)
but the fact is starting in o1-02,kobe improved dramatically and has an incredible mental approach to the game to go along with the strong physical gifts that he has that mj never saw coming.
he thinks he can dominate the young guns with his wisdom of the game.i believe he watched those 2001 finals and thought that he has an edge in terms of having a great mental approach in tough games.
Ron Artest said when MJ was preparing for his comeback, that if MJ didn't break his ribs and have to miss 8 weeks of preparation that MJ would've easily avg 30 pts and took his team to the playoffs.
mj had over 200 and something 40 point games right?,just imagine if he was a gunner like that moron kobe,and converted most of those 40 point games into 50,he would of had more 50 point games than wilt chamberlain easily.
4 zopo I think your hatred 4 kobe is blinding you jordan was a as u say gunner ball hog or whatever the only diffrence is that later in his career jordan had teammates to fill the roles that kobe doesnt have and make no mistake kobe is a great ball player wether YOU HATE ON HIM OR NOT
Stupidest complaint keeps going. Quit it with the teammate excuse when KB had the greatest team at one point in his life but thought he could win without them. Now's he's quitting on them again to join a contender. Don't reverse logic.
Yeah but despite the fact that Jordan was a supposed gunner earlier in his career didn't negate that he was still able to post 50 win season w/o great teammates.
Amen. You can only call it "gunning" when you jack up shot after shot, while continuing to shoot a horrible percentage. MJ never shot a horrible percentage throughtout his career & he "won" with a less than sterling cast of teammates early in his career..
i believe the reason why mj came back in 01 is that he didn't really dominated the likes of kobe,ai, or grant hill in their last games of the season of 98.mike can't live with that,he thought he still has the ability to dominate the nba.
Hoops........Do You Have These 4 MJ games from his ROOKIE Year: Winning 45 pts vs Cleveland. Winning 45 pts vs Atlanta. Winning 49 pts/15 rebs vs Detroit. Loosing 40 pts vs Sixers. thanks a lot for putting MJ's Rookie 45 pts winning effort against San Antonio. One of my all time favorite games of His Airness. I just cant wait to see MJ's 49 pts against Pistons.That game must be true classic.
anybody who calls Larry Bird overrated, they might want to refresh their memories with what the color of a basketball is. Larry legend could take a game over on offense and defense. I dont need to break down the numbers, I have a memory, unlike these Johnny come latelys. There isnt one player in today's game that compares to Larry Bird. You have to go back to Michael and Magic to find guys who compare.
Bird overrated? Hardly. In many ways, he was Jordan before Jordan, just toying with guys while talking trash. Bird was an assassin. My second favorite player ever.
Bird was overrated. All he did was shoot jumpshots and rely upon McHale and Parish to carry him while D.J. and Ainge had the real tough defensive assignments like Isiah Thomas and Michael Jordan. Bird was just a jumpshooting passing forward who made the game common. God Bless Larry Legend.
Bird was good at seeing the floor; anticipating the defense and offense; hitting clutch shots; and really not letting anything get to him on the floor. I admire Bird and I'm African-American. I just like how he played the game. I say he was overrated only because the media and NBA played the race card between he and Magic, cause had Bird been black then it wouldn't have been as huge of a rivalry as it was.
but i did feel the same way with magic johnson though. i like the way he played, to get his whole team involved.fast breaks and no looks.but somehow i feel like he is a bit slow and not as exciting to watch as mj. and his ball handing is not as efficient as well.
but i could be wrong since i only watched those games when magic is on the downside of his career.
Yeah you are wrong but Jordan was just more athletic. I'm an Isiah Thomas fan anyway, so what do I care? Isiah beat Magic, Jordan, and Bird more than they beat him; Magic and Isiah tied 1-1 in playoff series. Isiah beat Bird 3-2; and Thomas killed Jordan 3-1.
Now. To your comments of BIRD BEING OVERRATED. Larry Bird won Reg Season MVP for 3 consequetive years in the GOLDEN ERA of NBA & fully deserved it. BIRD also overshadowed MAGIC to win ROOKIE OF THE YEAR. He won 3 championships. Birds offensive skills & court vision are far far superior to any player playing in the NBA past '98. He was an ultimate champion, a complete team player who can dominate both ends of the court at will minus back injury.
Isiah Thomas's coaching record is 147-67? That doesn't sound right. I think you thought I was talking about Larry Bird. Larry Bird was a very good coach.
In terms of "THE GREATEST EVER TO PLAY THE GAME" Index, The holy trinity goes in this order: 1.Jordan 2.Magic 3.Bird. Why so you may ask? These Top 3 DO NOT hold any major record such as Most points, assists or rebounds ever. They are "the greatest" because they controlled the game & its momentum far better than say Wilt or Kareem Hence pushing their respective teams to ultimate glory over & over again. (Cont'd)
The TOP 3 are also the greatest ever because They played in the GOLDEN ERA of NBA (1980-1999)when the competition, offensive & particularly defensive basketball was at its ABSOLUTE PEAK minus any stupid relaxed rules of today. Yet, they saw the game at much faster pace which lead to their court vision that was superior to say West, Oscar. They domininated the game like never before in the NBA that was at its toughest on both ends. (Cont'd)
We have the same opinion of Larry Bird before until i saw him play especially in those celtics-lakers rivalry. Man! I was wrong, he was so damned tough. the only weakness in his game i can tell is that he doesnt fly as high as Jordan.
Sorry dude, how does he average 25 plus on a good team some years. At one point he was averaging 28 points a game. Bird may not be jordan. But he is better than grady, Iverson,
All this shows is that Larry Bird was way overrated... Rodman was right, if Bird were black then people would've just said that he was just a good player.
bird might appear to be so athletic, but basketball is more than just jumping high or running fast and so on. bird seriously knew the game better than most of the players and yes as mjlover23 said, he definitely toyed others with is sharp shooting skill.
he is definitely more than just a good shooter.obviously he could rebound, got really good court vision and utilize his advantage in height and shooting to make seemingly effortless shots. the way he drew defenders to jump is definitely the closest thing i have seen to jordan's.
The PA announcer was Tommy Edwards, who for a longtime was a DJ at WLS radio when it was huge in Chicago. Edwards was responsible for both the Allan Parsons Project introduction as well as the Rock N Roll Part II song--classic sports anthems that are used at all levels today.
back thm when the game of basketball was so intense and natural
wilzusuki 2 months ago
Nobody's as quick and as elastic today as Jordan used to be. Today's stars just look.... heavy and clumsy comparing to him.
chapaev36 9 months ago
Brad Sellers was a 7-foot non-factor, Dave Corzine was older than his jersey, Sam Vincent was above average and Young Oak was an emerging beast. But that #23 dude? Now that dude was a PROBLEM!
RAV52 1 year ago
what a game...againt the celtics!
lionelangemario 1 year ago
what a game!!!
lionelangemario 1 year ago
Do they still cut the lights at NBA final games?
fungames2 1 year ago
Dave Corzine, Brad Sellers, Sam Vincent, and Oak. Oak's the only guy who remotely came close to doing anything even as a role player. And people said Lebron had a bad supporting cast this year. Try playing with these jerk offs at the height on the NBA.
nuzzinaples23 1 year ago
killin dj
stromonie 1 year ago
I didnt know the Bulls used that song in the 80s during their intro.
CrazyCubsFan10 1 year ago
after watching these videos watching basketball anywhere else is boring
Bwayneallday 1 year ago
jim durham is the best! johnny red was great. love the enthusiasm.
titletown899004 1 year ago
Unbelievable Uploads seriously...
SwaggerLikeUz 1 year ago
they were so similar with today's Celtics, the big three plus a star PG. Only Bird was an ultimate shooting machine, much better than Ray. Ray is a 3pt shooter, Bird was a scorer and a shooter.
jimmychuang 1 year ago
hoopsencyclopedia, is 5 10, white and can dunk easily. what do you mean white people can't jump? It's just about the training individuals do to get their own jump to be high enough to dunk. However for me, I personally used the exercise program over at 50inch vertical[dot]com
Ezujuv84 1 year ago
MJ played a lot at the point guard position this season in spite of the criticism he has endured from NBA critics, claiming that "MJ can't improve the performance of his teammates." MJ went on to have one of the greatest single seasons of any player in the history of the game posting numbers such as 32.5 ppg, 8.0 rbpg, 8.0 apg, and 2.9 steals per game.
MrBobHandler 1 year ago
yeah
MrBobHandler 1 year ago
dennis johnson made quite a few 1st and 2nd team all defensive teams,and ainge was an underrated defender, jordan probably could have done this on anyone back then
timjumper7 2 years ago
Simply G.O.A.T
ghaithissa 2 years ago
Michael Jordan & Pippen were true prototypes. The only other athletic guard i can think of during this era were Clyde Drexler and a young Ron Harper. Every other SG were typical 6"4" or smaller one dimensional shooters like Danny Ainge, Hersey Hawkins, Byron Scott, Fat Lever, Jeff Hornacek. The guy guarding Jordan in this video is Dennis Johnson who was 6"3". Lebron, Kobe, Wade would be tearing up those 6"4" shorties too. This video isn't evidence to dump on Lebron or kobe.
aronsonstack 2 years ago
@aronsonstack Athleticism and height doesn't equate to defensive performance. Will, determination, and perseverance are the more essential factors. You forgot to mention Starks, WIlkins (played SG a lot), Iverson, Miller, Kobe, Magic, Payton, and the list goes on. You also forgot to mention how Jordan had to battle double and even triple teams throughout his career and the hand-check. The league is much softer now and rules were implemented to make is easier for players to score.
MrBobHandler 1 year ago
@aronsonstack Wrong, MJ was not a prototype. Did you forget that Julius Erving and Dominique Wilkins were 6'6 and 6'7 guards-forwards that were extremely athletic. Look at Kobe's biggest competition, that's right is there is none because Wade is a PG and Lebron is a PF and both don't guard Kobe when they face the Lakers. How about the fact that Kobe is the only SG in the league that can play great defense, MJ played tons of guards that were known for their stellar defense
MrBobHandler 1 year ago
@aronsonstack The only other good SG in the league I can think of is Brandon Roy. Kobe has faced numerous has beens throughout his career such as McGrady, Vince Carter, and Iverson. Iverson is the only player who was consistent throughout his career. MJ faced Drexler, Erving, Wilkins, Starks, Miller, Dumars, Payton, Magic, Maxwell, Stackhouse, Hill, Iverson, and Kobe himself. All these players I have mentioned have been assigned to guard Jordan whenever they faced the Bulls. Look it up!
MrBobHandler 1 year ago
@MrBobHandler when have Iverson ever been assigned to guard Jordan. Never. Look it up!
t2shay01 1 year ago
@aronsonstack When Jordan faced a team that didn't have good defensive guards, he received double teams and or triple teams.
MrBobHandler 1 year ago
Well I watch this video on Saturday, DEC 12, 2009, and later on this day Celtics at Bulls (United Center though). Maybe Derrick Rose will do this to the Celtics tonight.
JZ2001JC 2 years ago
God damn@those numbers the Celtics' frontcourt players were putting up. Bird was droppin' 30 in '88? I thought '86 or '87 had been his last dominate year.
mt883 2 years ago
the weightlifting helped jordan's durability during the two three-peats, but it definitely eliminated the easy weightlessness of his game in the early and late 80s, when he just seemed to float in the air effortlessly to the basket.
phishhead11 2 years ago 2
I didn't know the Bulls had that intro back in the days
LifeFirst 2 years ago
whoever compares my idol to either one of those bitch ass/crying ass niggas kobe or lebron, needs to watch this video, MJ did this shit on bird and the celtics in 88. the nigga always been great at scoring, defending, and productive. just dont make those statements please, he like Micheal Jackson's album sales, you can fuck with it, so just beat it!
danewmacant 2 years ago
Michael Jordan is pure EPIC. He is the Playoff leader of all-time after all.
IBeGodly 2 years ago 2
who knows how to get footage like this into windows movie maker or imovie or whatever to edit it?
Ddriscbball 2 years ago
GOAT!
fbx03 2 years ago
GOAT
acesandjacks25 3 years ago
no one had this goat at young age,lebron is not bad either
osinibi 3 years ago
the difference between kobe and mj is in intensity of game.
Bryant is the best player in the world at the moment but the aggressiveness in the 2 extremes of the court you will never see on a basketball court ... MJ the best in the history
ronnyb79 3 years ago
Oh man, Jordan was a brilliant player! No one is better, not then, and not now. MJ is the G.O.A.T.
MegaBabeTV 3 years ago 12
if ur reading this and bored d
hablaja 3 years ago
Which year was this for Bird? His 6th year?
plangetee 3 years ago
This was Bird's 9th year and MJ's 4th
rrTale 3 years ago
Jordan had to score because although Pippen became one of the best players ever, it's not like in 1987 he just came in dominating (like jordan did his rookie year). In fact Pippen had to fight for playing time against Brad Sellars. Pippen didn't start emerging till 1989 and even then it was a couple years till he really got recognized during the Bulls first Championship run. Bird and Magic always had better teammates during the early 80s and more of them.
Amir883 3 years ago 2
Bird had Mchale Parish Dennis Johnson. Magic had Kareem, Cooper, Worthy, Scott. Jordan had Oakley who was a good rebounder and defender. But the bulls had no real second option. Even though they had John Paxson, he didn't see many minutes and his scoring output was limited. It wasn't until the 88-89 Season that Jordan's teammates started getting real productive and as a result of that, plus putting Jordan at point guard, Jordan averaged 8 rb 8 as. and 32 pts, getting quite a few triple doubles.
Amir883 3 years ago 2
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Jordan was the "Greatest Shooting/Scoring Guard Ever", but NOT the "Best Player Ever", Not Even Close the "Most Complete Ever" and Not The "Most All Around Ever". Jordan was Great at his position thats it.
AceroySangre 3 years ago
Wrong answer. You are a silly, frivolous person.
TBlake34 3 years ago 2
hes by far the most complete all around player ever. not only is he 1st all time ppg, he is 2nd all time in steals...and to still get 6 rebounds and 8 assists per game is amazing.
dfdivino 3 years ago
Not to mention that he's #1 all time in blocks for a guard and #3 all time in rebounds for a guard. Some folks just don't realize how good he was at BOTH ends of the floor.
uberathlete 3 years ago
those were real games//.
adrian23hdez 3 years ago 14
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Jordan is the greatest one on one Shooting Guard of All Time, probaly Greatest Defending Shooting Guard and one of the fasted-jumpers and athletic players of all Time. But in complete Game Bird and Magic where way superior, while Jordan was scoring on his usually slower and shorter opposing Guards Bird and Magic where making their teams better with witts and inumerable TRIPLE DOUBLES. Jordan`s damage against the opponents looked nicer while Bird`s and Magic`s was silent and witty minded
AceroySangre 3 years ago
as right as you are, Jordan was a fine passer and had that ability to make his team better with his excellence that few in any sport have.
ItsTheCos 3 years ago
Pippen, A Top 50 Player of All Time, One of the Most Complete Smallforward Ever and Could Play Point-Shooting and Smallforward At the Smae Time. Pip`s scoring and assits averages would have doubled if he would have played in another team in his Prime Days. Jordan also played with Charles Oakley a Top Rebounder and Defensive Player, Horace Grant one of the Best Defending Powerforward Ever, Kerr and Paxon 3-Point Shooting Machines, Rodman Top Defender and Rebounder, Kukoc 1 of the Most Underrated!
AceroySangre 3 years ago
Uh...what's your point? Just because Magic was Kareem's teammate, that doesn't mean Kareem wasn't the best scoring center of all time.
Your trying to appear smart by criticizing conventional wisdom. You sound just as stupid as every 19 year old english major who decides they need to take Shakespeare down a peg or two. Every year there are a thousand assholes like you popping up. You fade away and the legend remains. All you manage to do is show your desperate ignorance.
TBlake34 3 years ago 4
This guy was one heck of an athlete. Funny enough, it seems as though this bulls roster had the ability to excel and progress futher than they had done during the 87-88 season playoffs. In my opinion atleast, this side was formidable but too inconsistent. Especially if one considers that less preassure was put upon mj to do most of the scoring. However, this was an exciting time.
Nice vid
karabop3000 4 years ago
I completely forgot that Scottie wasn't even a starter during the 88 season. It's unbelievable what happened in two years after this with his career.
rizdraver 4 years ago
i LOve Michael Jordan.
San72390 4 years ago
This guy Eggsucker knows absolutely nothing about basketball. To compare a chucker like Iverson to Jordan is absolutely ridiculous. The thing Jordan cared most about over everything else was winning and he would do that at any cost. Jordan never had the luxury of playing with a stacked team, like the Celtics and Lakers.
Force283 4 years ago
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MJ's performance in this game shows why the NBA and US basketball has been in such a decline. Basketball is and had been a team sport--showtime lakers, 86 celtics, bad boy pistons. With jordan, it became all about the individual superstar: AI, Shaq, Jordan, Kobe, Lebron.
Eggsucker409 4 years ago
MJ's Bulls, the Chicago Bulls TEAM won 6 titles. You can't compare Iverson and LeBron guys with 0 rings with Jordan.
mrakbaseball 4 years ago 4
eggsucker,stfu bitch and go suck an egg. you're a bitter little celtic or laker fan who won no more titles in the 90s get lost bitch jordan destroyed your teams in the 80s
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago 3
zopoundsakpase - get a new set of knee pads
TenneyMead 4 years ago
quit acting like mj made individual performances..
before mj:bob petit, wilt, pete maravich and plenty others.
and you act as if mj diminished the idea of a team.
after mj teams: spurs, jazz, pistons, mavs, suns
not to mention individual performances are fine if they win 6 titles, and are out of necessity.
originalname33 4 years ago 3
You might have a point had MJ not won 6 rings.
mt883 4 years ago 2
You know, as crazy as it may sound, I think you actually have a valid point. But I wouldn't blame it on Jordan altogether. I mean, can you blame him for having been far superior than others? I don't think he realized back then that he was actually jeopardizing the integrity of basketball. Instead, I think he was just passionate about the game, and he played it to the best of his abilities. And why not? Why should he have held back? Ultimately the objective is to win, and win he did.
nehepyunji 4 years ago
I agree with your point on US basketball becoming too commercialized (more than ever before) with superstar players being treated more like Hollywood stars rather than celebrity athletes (emphasis on athletes). But that's because the public so desperately wants another Jordan, that we start labeling players and begin sentimentalizing them. This creates a collective atmosphere in which we encourage players to adopt and carry out an all too singular agenda--becoming the next Jordan.
nehepyunji 4 years ago 2
What I'm saying is Jordan just played the game of basketball. But he did it so fucking well that WE made him a superstar. WE did. And he left in his wake the echoes of his greatness. His echo is still being heard in the form of individual superstars rising up a la Shaq, Lebron, Kobe, etc. Without the public making such a big deal about being the next Jordan, I don't think these players would be so individualistic. So yes, U.S. basketball is at a decline but it's our fault, not Jordan's
nehepyunji 4 years ago 3
Jordan was arguably the greatest player of all time. But basketball is a team sport. And the Bulls at their best with Jordan--would have lost to the 86 Celtics or Pat Riley Lakers; the same way Wilt lost to the Celtics of that era. Disagree? Name one player besides Jordan who would have started on either 80s celts or lakers?
Eggsucker409 4 years ago
Jordan was arguably the greatest player of all time. But basketball is a team sport. And the Bulls at their best with Jordan--would have lost to the 86 Celtics or Pat Riley Lakers; the same way Wilt lost to the Celtics of that era. Disagree? Name one player besides Jordan who would have started on either 80s celts or lakers?
Eggsucker409 4 years ago
ah pippen asshole,ah grant asshole ah paxson asshole ah rodman asshole ah toni kucko asshole. you actually think jordan couldn't destroy the celtics when he almost did it by himself in the 85 86 playoff series. scoring 63points on the like it was nothing...with the triangle offense bostons bigs would of been in a world of shit...then jordan would dunk all day
waffelirontmacsplat 4 years ago 2
I love when people say stuff like this. Have you never watched sports? Just lining up great players does not equate to wins. That's how you make a fantasy squad.
Quick question: who was the best player on the Yankee's all-time winningest team? Ruth? DiMaggio? Mantle? Nope, it was Bernie Williams.
TBlake34 4 years ago
the bulls at their best won 70 on the season, Boston never did that
shawnfilson 3 years ago 2
this was when the NBA was fun!!!
jet472000 4 years ago 2
I was at this game. Snuck into the old Stadium with a friend. Great night, nice to relive it.
LizSays03 4 years ago
box score at basketball-reference dot com
search CHI19880318.
march 18, 1988
hPeAiUdLe 4 years ago
Dennis Johnson, no chance. I like them showing smoothness of bird in here to. Jordan just abusing the defenders feet then having crazy finishes. Just amazing.
Bigturns33 4 years ago
I would have loved to see Michael Jordan play a full game when he had his shot on. On nights when he couldnt miss, he rested for extended periods of time, or got his teammates involved. (B'ball IS a team sport) But on nights when he dropped 63 on the Celtics (playoffs), or 69 on the Cavs, he was benched or didn't shoot. If I recall, he had only 2 points the first quarter when he dropped 69 in against the Cavs. Given all opporunity, I believe MJ could have had several 100, or close to it nights.
Blamed1 4 years ago
13 of his 19 FG's came in the paint! LOL! 26 points in the paint from a guard!
teugene682 4 years ago
Amazing. And that defense was PACKED in. Most of those shots, all five C's are right in the paint...
TBlake34 4 years ago
finally...a game in which Jordan BEATS the Celtics
mackcrusher 4 years ago
Pippen was a great defender but brid was a great shooter so it would be challenging for him to defend that but it would be a match up.
Hueyriley11 4 years ago
Man, Larry Bird just kills Pip.
uberathlete 4 years ago
Pippen was a skinny rookie coming off the bench. Bird would've struggled against defensive the monster he became in the 90s
sgtpepper2345 4 years ago
Pippen was a skinny rookie coming off the bench. Bird would've struggled against the defensive monster he became in the 90s
sgtpepper2345 4 years ago
well he would have a harder time but I think he would still score a bit on Pip. Bird was incredibly deceptive and moved well without the ball, so that aspect of his game would still give Pip fits.
uberathlete 4 years ago
naw pippen was great at defending ball handlers, and penetraters, bird played of screens and played in the post with jordan like fadeaways. Bird would still have his way with pip in pip's defensive prime as he did with most great defenders of his day
truballar2003 4 years ago 2
The only person with more playoff steals than Michael Jordan: Scottie Pippen. And Michael was in the playoffs more times.
skip2mylou1 4 years ago
Scittie played in 208 playoff games, Michael 179.
Michael averaged 2.1 steals in his playoff career, Scottie 1.9.
TBlake34 4 years ago
Well I just feel like a total douche. I guess where ever i read it was wrong, or I remembered wrong. I hope its no the latter.
skip2mylou1 4 years ago
maybe alphawolf could see this or hes too busy with his thumb up his ass after being proven wrong over and over again
jonnieos 4 years ago
lol scotty pip
milesgetsfresh 4 years ago
I wish merkinmuffy could see this!!! that faggot!!!
truballar2003 4 years ago
What if he has already has? I wonder what he thinks? Apparently he can't stand the fact that Bird and the Celtics are NOT invincible...
mackcrusher 4 years ago
could someone please post the game when the bulls beat the bucks for the 70 game win!!!!
jesusworld22 4 years ago
this man is so crazy he shoots field goals like shaq shoots free throws
airderekjeter2 4 years ago
hoops ... ur killing me over here !!! my craving for a new clip from you is driving me crazy
tazbomberman 4 years ago
hoops can u get MJ's very first bulls game and post it. I heard he tried to dunk on his first shot attempt.
corelperfect 4 years ago
heyas hoops. mad props with the videos, love em! just thought if you encoded your videos directly to flv format with riva encoder, youll make your videos far clearer, itll removed the blockiness. i suggest 320 x 240 res and 300 kbs bitrate, video with 80 kbs audio. theyll come out sweet :-) :-)
Overstayers 4 years ago
Thanks. I'll experiment with that setting and format and see.
hoopsencyclopedia 4 years ago
hoops,i am begging u to upload game 3 of the 93 playoffs 1st rd between the bulls and hawks.i think mj and nique matched up really well there.
sprinthound 4 years ago
I think I might have that one. I'll check.
hoopsencyclopedia 4 years ago
Larry Bird was a great player, he deserved every bit of respect he got. Great video by the way.
23thegoat 4 years ago
Hoops started the craze, and his collection is still easily the standard, but there are a lot of users who have great Jordan game collections. Search for these users and be amazed: joleroke, starks23, det916, jxn23, and kOrOne79.
jordanlover23 4 years ago
Since then, there have also been blackadam06, michalus, ForEmily23, mlynch07, baldheadkid, and medestinier.
mackcrusher 3 years ago
hey... thanks for the shoutout man!!!
baldheadkid 3 years ago
Oh, and SPMJ.
mackcrusher 3 years ago
Sorry! I forgot to add Balthus23 to this list too. TRJ22487--I call him "the Cape Cod Cameraman"--has also posted some great games by Jordan. Anyone else that's posted Jordan games on the Internet, message me and I'll give a shout out to you too.
mackcrusher 3 years ago
I'm so tired of this MJ-Kobe debate. Bottom line: there IS no debate. Kobe's good, but nowhere CLOSE to Jordan, period. So enough of that. Also, sorry to hawk other people's vids on here, Hoops, but y'all should check out Starks23's most recent video, 92 playoffs, Bulls-Heat to see what I think was MJ's near or absolute peak--outside game almost as good as 95-98, and athleticism still off-the-charts, with the viciousness that only MJ and maybe Nique have ever had insofar as dunking.
toekneeshin23 4 years ago
mj is goat,kobe is goose!
sprinthound 4 years ago
The block at 3:28 and the drive at 5:18. Wow, great upload, thank you.
circlejeres 4 years ago
Jordan wasn't a gunner. A gunner does not shoot 54%.
sfhguibnbhq 4 years ago
elabudi3, are you being serious or sarcastic? If you're agreeing with me, do you have any information/video of the game I'm remembering?
jordanlover23 4 years ago
I am agreeing with you. I remember those plays, can't recall which game of the season though! Maybe hoops remembers?
elabudi3 4 years ago
"He is God in basketball shoes" - Larry Bird.
williest1 4 years ago
(cont) It's much harder to make plays and get guys involved when you're jacking 25-footers, can't get into the lane at will, and can't gain and maintain post position as easily. Never mind the difference in their vision, passing skill, and willingness to pass the ball. Also efficiency: there's less of a tendency for your teammates to dislike the fact that you're taking 22+ shots when you're hitting 51+% of them as opposed to 44-45% of them.
jordanlover23 4 years ago
Jordan's game was just much more conducive to team ball in many ways. He gave 100% effort on the defensive end, which is contagious. He didn't take 75% of the game -- or entire games -- off like Kobe does. He penetrated far more easily than Kobe does, drawing defenders and allowing kickouts to spot-up shooters or dump-offs to big men underneath for finishes. He was an outstanding post player, which again collapsed defenses and allowed the ball to be swung for high quality looks. (cont)
jordanlover23 4 years ago
There's a Bulls/Lakers game from '98 up on youtube from the user "creamsugar82", but it doesn't show the entire game or every Jordan/Kobe basket. I'm pretty sure it's that game (but it may be another one) where Jordan dunks on Kobe off a spin-off near the FT line and alley-oop. Kobe tries to recover and elevates to block the shot, but Jordan two hands it ON him, literally. I'm pretty sure I didn't imagine this, and I wish someone would put the full game up.
jordanlover23 4 years ago
You imagined it. I've got all Kobe/Jordan games, including the one when Kobe only plays about 6 minutes.
det916 4 years ago
There's no way I imagined it. It was in LA, Jordan faked like he was coming out to meet a pass and Kobe overplayed him; he spun off him backdoor and caught a lob which he jammed over Kobe as Kobe recovered. Definitely didn't imagine this because I remember a separate play from the same game where Jordan drove Kobe right, went between his legs and then was instantly on Kobe's left side, and the ref called Kobe on the foul for holding. My imagination is not THAT vivid. :P
jordanlover23 4 years ago
Hmmm, I'm not recalling it. I'd go back and look but i'm drunk and can't be bothered. I trust your memory, it just hasn't occured to me yet. ;)
det916 4 years ago
Look at the crossover at 4:13. Better than his through-the-leg cross on Bird in the 63 game, but of course, not as historical.
Great move.
det916 4 years ago
Yep, you didn't imagine it at all.
elabudi3 4 years ago
mj was in great shape at 34-35 yrs old.he also has a better understanding for the game in 96-98.i hope hoops that you can post the game at staples between mj and kobe in 98.just a request bro.
sprinthound 4 years ago
What is there to "clear up"? Jordan played Kobe when he was 34+ years old. Unless you're one of those guys who thinks Kobe dropped 42 points in the first half on Jordan in 2003 when Jordan didn't guard him a single possession of that half lol.
jordanlover23 4 years ago
it can somehow clear things up a bit.
drewsrage23 4 years ago
hoops,do you have clips of mj vs kobe? hope you can post it if you have one.
drewsrage23 4 years ago
I'll be posting the first game against each other soon. But it's never been 'against' each other since MJ was dominating with the Bulls when KB was young and was sitting on the bench with KB playing garbage minutes. At age 40 on the Wiz, MJ was a SF. What's there to clear up? If KB shot 50% even for one season maybe there might be something worth talking about for once.
hoopsencyclopedia 4 years ago
Not to mention in the game that Jordan posted 36, and Kobe 33... Kobe did literally 60% of his scoring while Jordan was benched. 16 in the 4th when the game was long over.
BTW, in the 63 vs Celtics, you should've posted Bird's huge 3 point buzzer beater. That was awesome :)
det916 4 years ago
but the fact is starting in o1-02,kobe improved dramatically and has an incredible mental approach to the game to go along with the strong physical gifts that he has that mj never saw coming.
drewsrage23 4 years ago
he thinks he can dominate the young guns with his wisdom of the game.i believe he watched those 2001 finals and thought that he has an edge in terms of having a great mental approach in tough games.
drewsrage23 4 years ago
Ron Artest said when MJ was preparing for his comeback, that if MJ didn't break his ribs and have to miss 8 weeks of preparation that MJ would've easily avg 30 pts and took his team to the playoffs.
bcjclj 4 years ago
mj had over 200 and something 40 point games right?,just imagine if he was a gunner like that moron kobe,and converted most of those 40 point games into 50,he would of had more 50 point games than wilt chamberlain easily.
zopoundsakpase 4 years ago
4 zopo I think your hatred 4 kobe is blinding you jordan was a as u say gunner ball hog or whatever the only diffrence is that later in his career jordan had teammates to fill the roles that kobe doesnt have and make no mistake kobe is a great ball player wether YOU HATE ON HIM OR NOT
showtime7000 4 years ago
Stupidest complaint keeps going. Quit it with the teammate excuse when KB had the greatest team at one point in his life but thought he could win without them. Now's he's quitting on them again to join a contender. Don't reverse logic.
hoopsencyclopedia 4 years ago
Yeah but despite the fact that Jordan was a supposed gunner earlier in his career didn't negate that he was still able to post 50 win season w/o great teammates.
bobo0383 4 years ago
Amen. You can only call it "gunning" when you jack up shot after shot, while continuing to shoot a horrible percentage. MJ never shot a horrible percentage throughtout his career & he "won" with a less than sterling cast of teammates early in his career..
blackadam06 4 years ago
186.
det916 4 years ago
no disrespect bros,i am a basketball player and i know what i'm talking about.
drewsrage23 4 years ago
That doesn't make any sense. MJ is not stupid, he's not going to think he could've dominated those guys when he was 38 years old.
bobo0383 4 years ago
i believe the reason why mj came back in 01 is that he didn't really dominated the likes of kobe,ai, or grant hill in their last games of the season of 98.mike can't live with that,he thought he still has the ability to dominate the nba.
drewsrage23 4 years ago
Possibly. We all know how competitive the man is. Or maybe it was mostly because he missed being a player.
uberathlete 4 years ago
aha!
drewsrage23 4 years ago
Great game! God, I can only imagine what game this would have been if Len Bias had played in the Celtics. Double show. Maybe...
algotalgo 4 years ago
Hoops........Do You Have These 4 MJ games from his ROOKIE Year: Winning 45 pts vs Cleveland. Winning 45 pts vs Atlanta. Winning 49 pts/15 rebs vs Detroit. Loosing 40 pts vs Sixers. thanks a lot for putting MJ's Rookie 45 pts winning effort against San Antonio. One of my all time favorite games of His Airness. I just cant wait to see MJ's 49 pts against Pistons.That game must be true classic.
mnkhan2020 4 years ago
Boy, Kobe fans need to see this. And whoever said that Bird is overrated is a moron.
uberathlete 4 years ago
Geez, who's the idiot that sends Dennis Johnson to guard MJ one on one? Then again it wouldn't matter whoever they put on him.
uberathlete 4 years ago
anybody who calls Larry Bird overrated, they might want to refresh their memories with what the color of a basketball is. Larry legend could take a game over on offense and defense. I dont need to break down the numbers, I have a memory, unlike these Johnny come latelys. There isnt one player in today's game that compares to Larry Bird. You have to go back to Michael and Magic to find guys who compare.
BruceBIitz 4 years ago
Bird overrated? Hardly. In many ways, he was Jordan before Jordan, just toying with guys while talking trash. Bird was an assassin. My second favorite player ever.
jordanlover23 4 years ago
Bird was overrated. All he did was shoot jumpshots and rely upon McHale and Parish to carry him while D.J. and Ainge had the real tough defensive assignments like Isiah Thomas and Michael Jordan. Bird was just a jumpshooting passing forward who made the game common. God Bless Larry Legend.
3DStoneCt 4 years ago
i do agree that he is not as tough as a defender. bird might not be as all round like jordan, but his game is very interesting to look at.
popeyeisgood 4 years ago
Bird was good at seeing the floor; anticipating the defense and offense; hitting clutch shots; and really not letting anything get to him on the floor. I admire Bird and I'm African-American. I just like how he played the game. I say he was overrated only because the media and NBA played the race card between he and Magic, cause had Bird been black then it wouldn't have been as huge of a rivalry as it was.
3DStoneCt 4 years ago
I disagree the celtics and lakers were classic rivals.
DarkVoyuer 4 years ago
but i did feel the same way with magic johnson though. i like the way he played, to get his whole team involved.fast breaks and no looks.but somehow i feel like he is a bit slow and not as exciting to watch as mj. and his ball handing is not as efficient as well.
but i could be wrong since i only watched those games when magic is on the downside of his career.
popeyeisgood 4 years ago
Yeah you are wrong but Jordan was just more athletic. I'm an Isiah Thomas fan anyway, so what do I care? Isiah beat Magic, Jordan, and Bird more than they beat him; Magic and Isiah tied 1-1 in playoff series. Isiah beat Bird 3-2; and Thomas killed Jordan 3-1.
3DStoneCt 4 years ago
Now. To your comments of BIRD BEING OVERRATED. Larry Bird won Reg Season MVP for 3 consequetive years in the GOLDEN ERA of NBA & fully deserved it. BIRD also overshadowed MAGIC to win ROOKIE OF THE YEAR. He won 3 championships. Birds offensive skills & court vision are far far superior to any player playing in the NBA past '98. He was an ultimate champion, a complete team player who can dominate both ends of the court at will minus back injury.
mnkhan2020 4 years ago
Hopefully just as a player because as a coach, executive, and commentator he is awful.
bobo0383 4 years ago
Uhhh, he lead the Pacers to 58 win and 56 win seasons, bro.
His coaching career is 147 wins, 67 losses. That's .687.
Hardly horrible.
det916 4 years ago
Isiah Thomas's coaching record is 147-67? That doesn't sound right. I think you thought I was talking about Larry Bird. Larry Bird was a very good coach.
bobo0383 4 years ago
My bad, I did think you were referring to Bird.
det916 4 years ago
Technically Thomas was 12-10 against Jordan in those years. That's hardly killing him.
bobo0383 4 years ago
In terms of "THE GREATEST EVER TO PLAY THE GAME" Index, The holy trinity goes in this order: 1.Jordan 2.Magic 3.Bird. Why so you may ask? These Top 3 DO NOT hold any major record such as Most points, assists or rebounds ever. They are "the greatest" because they controlled the game & its momentum far better than say Wilt or Kareem Hence pushing their respective teams to ultimate glory over & over again. (Cont'd)
mnkhan2020 4 years ago
I can agree to you absolutely.
mjdbest 4 years ago
The TOP 3 are also the greatest ever because They played in the GOLDEN ERA of NBA (1980-1999)when the competition, offensive & particularly defensive basketball was at its ABSOLUTE PEAK minus any stupid relaxed rules of today. Yet, they saw the game at much faster pace which lead to their court vision that was superior to say West, Oscar. They domininated the game like never before in the NBA that was at its toughest on both ends. (Cont'd)
mnkhan2020 4 years ago
We have the same opinion of Larry Bird before until i saw him play especially in those celtics-lakers rivalry. Man! I was wrong, he was so damned tough. the only weakness in his game i can tell is that he doesnt fly as high as Jordan.
mjdbest 4 years ago
Sorry dude, how does he average 25 plus on a good team some years. At one point he was averaging 28 points a game. Bird may not be jordan. But he is better than grady, Iverson,
DarkVoyuer 4 years ago
All this shows is that Larry Bird was way overrated... Rodman was right, if Bird were black then people would've just said that he was just a good player.
3DStoneCt 4 years ago
bird might appear to be so athletic, but basketball is more than just jumping high or running fast and so on. bird seriously knew the game better than most of the players and yes as mjlover23 said, he definitely toyed others with is sharp shooting skill.
popeyeisgood 4 years ago
he is definitely more than just a good shooter.obviously he could rebound, got really good court vision and utilize his advantage in height and shooting to make seemingly effortless shots. the way he drew defenders to jump is definitely the closest thing i have seen to jordan's.
popeyeisgood 4 years ago
Sorry bro bird is not overrated. Dude is way better than nique, bron, kobe, reggie, and Dirk. Dirk and Nash would be overrated before bird.
DarkVoyuer 4 years ago
As always, great MJ vid Hoops! I really dig that Bulls intro music! ;)
Retrolock 4 years ago
Are you for real? Go home little one.
hoopsencyclopedia 4 years ago
Go home idiot. Why do you have internet access? You're stupidity might be contagious
Retrolock 4 years ago
I swear, little KB kids keep me from enjoying KB more than anything because half the time, I'm wasting my time berating their silliness.
hoopsencyclopedia 4 years ago
The PA announcer was Tommy Edwards, who for a longtime was a DJ at WLS radio when it was huge in Chicago. Edwards was responsible for both the Allan Parsons Project introduction as well as the Rock N Roll Part II song--classic sports anthems that are used at all levels today.
letgocubs 4 years ago