@MiamiGoddess: GTFO here. You deserve to die horribly, in the most torturous way possible. Can't you feel the raw emotion? The wish to become real, but unable to? Just a figment of computer data, but she becomes real. She's real in all our hearts! You heretic! Go die! How can you be so apathetic? Idiot D8<
This is probably mikus most beautiful song....the song makes me sad although i like it ^___^ it makes me feel bad for miku that she can never be human
I love Hatsune Miku, and I agree with all those positive comments about her and this song. It is absolutely wonderful. For those 11 who hate this, go away. We don't want those who harbor misery and cruel intentions for our beloved Virtual Diva and her melodic and angelic voice. Go back to your music, and don't disturb us again!
I'd never thought I would hear such comments for a video. I've read praise, and there's been plenty of it here, but all the emotion, all the thought, all the feeling and discussion here is so deep. People tend to bicker on all videos, but this is one of the few where just about everyone is getting along, more than that we are having discussions on existentialism & emotion. Does Miku Hatsune, a non-human, non-sentient(?), program bring out the best in we sentient human beings?
This song is so touching and beautiful, it makes me wanna cry every time...I just wish I could let it all out..... TT.TT Who knew a synthesizer could bring so much emotion??
It's amazing the psychological effect the vocaloids had. Instead of just being a program with a voice, image and name, it became a complete person with feelings and almost a life. Even more amazing, the mass affect this had, not just limited to one person or a group, but to millions of people all over the world giving a computer program a general agreement on a personality. Miku and the other vocaloids have evolved; they are becoming people without a body.
I think she's talking about how she and other vocaloids are short lived fads. She doesn't want to die, but she knows that she'll live on within us. Then she tells us not to forget her and the other vocaloids, but we have to sing our own song. But I think she's generalizing about technology as well. She represents technology, and she's telling us to not forget about technology, but not to forget about our humanity in the process.
This is possibly the most beautiful, and definitely the most interesting, piece of Hatsune Miku music I've seen and heard - music and images combined. Finally using Miku's synthetic, almost ethereal voice where it adds something a human voice could not add.
@0MikuHatsune0 To me...call me an otaku..but she's a singer that lives on within us. She's much more meaningful to me at least. but yes, in the end, she's just data.
This video made me realize that maybe the VOCALOIDs are real, maybe not in our reality but maybe in our hearts and soul. Like us we might just be "alive" in someone else heart because they wanted us to be "alive" in some shape or form.
@Thecoventv that's actually a HUGE theme in a lot of the songs- being worthless, fear of being thrown away, forgotten- because that's what humans usually do with artificial, nonliving things- once they are bored, they throw them away. Miku Hatsune, I think, is supposed to represent a person that sings her happiness, her sadness, sings things that reach our hearts, even though she's not real- but underneath that, there is a fear that she won't be loved because she isn't real.
Sometimes I ask myself, how real are vocaloids? I mean thay used to be just programs but after fans, they kinda 'turn alive' maybe I'm just saying deliring things but I think miku is alive, the fans gave her life...
If you don't like it go back to your music. I personally find this emotional and profound. If you think it sucks go ahead, those who enjoy it will enjoy it and you won't; your loss.
brave!! perfecto!! this song is very beautiful it's like miku very essence is in this song very beautiful ahhhhh~ never heard a machine could sing such an emotional song. and the video has a nostalgic effect some what melancholy effect.
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Don't kid yourself.
They may have vibrant personalities given to them by the fans, but in the end they're still just electronic data, a program. They don't have life, or souls. That's up to us.
Aggea: Ahaha ^^ kaykay, but the fans have given her something lovely, if you wanna put it thats way, as if they have givin her a soul to match the voice.
Ahhaha, well, in a way I used to be a college professor, come to think of it. What I wrote is actually a personal response to some of the comments Zalamath posted, so it's not quoted.
I'm a non-religious, world-traveling artist trained as a scientist. I've given a fair share of thought to understanding the nature of life and existence, if that helps put the posts in perspective.
Btw, this reminds me a lot of Xenogears, and other games that deal heavily with conciousness as well as some animes such as Experiments Lain, etc. Its refreshing.
Well put my friend. I couldn't have possibly said it more eloquently myself. It's a pity more film and music in western media doesn't reflect on themes of existentialism and reality. Xenogears, Dothack, Lain, Code Geass, and Evangelion are all prime examples, among others...
you know how the artis of Code Geass makes the chins like a point? if you look at her chin its a point. and if you look at her face after that, she looks like she's from Code Geass.
@ Zedox : she is no ANIME its an Vocaloid charakter it means she is an virtual charakter who can sing with any synhtmetic or how that called programm so she is no anime but she is in a lot of games because she is so famous and everyone like she !
She is originally one of the VOCALOIDs (vocal-synthesizing software, technologically developed by YAMAHA), not a character in anime. Thanks to all activities of the fans (including composers, illustrators etc.), however, she has some existence, at least, in our imaginary. Sorry, as this space is not enough, to know more detail, could you search (english) Wikipedia with "Vocaloid"? You would find more detailed information there.
Now that does make me think. In a way, she's a formless collective creation, only existing in songs and in images and in imagination. For a abstract concept to yearn for a form it can't hope to realize, that seems so sad.
I think the various anime archetypes and vocaloid personalities are all part of a certain collective unconcious that exists in our hearts. I only just started getting into them (Rin, Len, Miku, etc) in the last week or so, but they all seemed very familiar right away. Did anyone else feel something similar?
If the theoretical aspects of this problem (collectivity of imaginary in Japanese Anime-Manga culture) interest you, recently a book written by Hiroki Azuma, young Japanese philosopher, is translated into English ("Otaku: Japan's Database Animals") and in French ("Génération Otaku : Les enfants de la postmodernité"). I don't totally share his analysis, but this book would provide some hints to understand the background.
Thank you very sincerely for the recommendation! I will surely look into the name, as well as the book. Sound's like he might share some of my opinions on the matter, I'll have to investigate further. Thanks also for posting this wonderful song, I very much enjoy it.
If by collective unconcious.. you mean can we relate to them and realize their existance and feelings.. then sure. We can come to terms and understand their feelings because we have had experiences throughout our lives that in some way relate to various aspects of these character archetypes. This is even further encompased by the reality of the saying 'truth is in the eye of the beholder' and we can each percieve them in a unique manner that ultimately relates to ourselves. Familiarity.. indeed.
They are all pretty familure at the start, but if you watch fan made videos/songs, you'll find they they're way too open I guess... Giving us too much room to make them who we think they should be...
Which makes them that much better, because Kaito can come off as a cockyhotty, a childish fool, or a normal young-adult...
Which probably makes them more realistic 'cause no one is always the exact same. Oh well. (:
Of course... these creations themselves are incapable of yearning for anything as they are merely an abstraction painted out into a archetype which is then given a role that we each percieve differently. It, however, can not percieve there for it does not exist. "Cogito, Ergo sum" I think, therefore I am. (I think, therefore I exist.)
But then, is it also possible that we too are painted abstractions, just like the electric soul? A rock is said to not 'perceive', but does it not exist? But then, who is to say that a rock (simply because it is unlike a living creature) cannot actually perceive in a way that cannot be sensed by humans? And, what exactly is existence? There may be much more to reality and the dizzying possibilities for its' foundations than we may ever know or perceive through the possibly limited human senses.
While that holds some interesting thoughts... it all comes down to perception. Existience is defined by one's perception of reality and what is/is not. In short... a rock can not react based on stimulus, but a human being or living creature can. If we yell at a dog it will pee itself, if we yell at a child it will cry, if we yell, kick, or threaten a rock it will do nothing. Perhaps we do not comprehend how it reacts? Can a rock choose to be diamon, sediment, etc.? Can it choose to wear down?
One of the most intriguing aspects of conciousness, existence, and being is self awareness and irrationality. Animals be it human, canine, or an arthropod... it can act irrationaly, fear, and percieve... its own existence and that of anothers'. It may irrationally protect its offspring sacrificing its very 'own' life.. Rocks can not do this unfortunately. Neither can computer programs. No matter how you program it its predetermined like the thousands of tunnels and paths water may flow.
One could argue that humans are limited too and their fates predetermined, that we never actually make choices ourselves but that they are forced upon us and we merely believe this scheme is of our will. Based on the law of causality there is an infinite number of occurences (i.e. possibilities) for every action. In other words time and space diverge infinitely. Rocks alway have limited outcomes... human occurence continues indefinately, however.Further,beings can percieve infinitely, rocks cant
By definition this makes the entity that percieves (dreams/thinks of...) us 'God' and by definition this makes that of which is capable of self awareness the second order of that chain. Capable of conciousness... another way to put it is there is that which exists purely to exist, and that which needs a reason to exist... existentialism you could say... of course there are extremes so one must be careful in how they interpret it.
Again.. this is furthered by infinite perceptions of reality... or to be more precise based on the law of causality... existence is defined by the infinite perceptions of occurence which define individiual realities for each self awareness (conciousness) and further... diverges into greater infinite possibities... I can interpret an occurence an infinite number of ways... and an infinite number of events can follow each of which I can infinitely percieve in various ways once again.
Based on programming structure it is either.... Choice A and if not A then take choice B/C/etc. (of coures its limited... due to memory space...memroy will always be finite) and then followed by this take choice... A/B/C/etc. and maybe do a loop (repeat action/occurence) then another choice... etc. until it reaches end of program or infintely continues main loop (with all choices inside this reoccuring loop). While it can simulate reality... it can not branch away from its path... 'ever'.
While humans are capable of performing spontaneous and irrational actions..rocks..and computer 'AI'..can only act within predefined parameters(restricted due to memory..and time)that produce exact results based on the way they are programmed..If action A is taken then continue to follow path B and at checkpoints roll dice/use statistics(given percentages/odds of..)to branch to another path..Only occuring based on predetermined posibilities. Irrationality is defined as the opposite of this nature
This is an interesting line of thought, but I am of the belief that human beings are actually no different from the rest of the matter in the universe. If you think about it, we are physically composed of the same matter as the minerals and elements found on the earth, and the calories we burn that allow for our physical movement can be followed through the chain of life to simply being energy from the sun.
There is, of course, a difference in the nature of a rock and a living organism. A living organism is inherently a pattern of matter and energy that self-perpetuates over time, a negative entropy of sorts that improves upon itself to live longer and in more stable forms of order. A rock, by itself, does not contain these properties. But, under circumstances, the matter that makes up a rock can become a part of life itself.
Iron, Zinc, Copper, Magnesium, etc., are all minerals that, by themselves in nature, do not exhibit the aspects of life. When absorbed into a lifeform like a human, however, they are essentially a part of the life of the human organism. They become a part of a self-perpetuating pattern, though perhaps only for a short time as the human body constantly replenishes and reforms itself with nutrients from the surrounding environment.
If one were to ascribe to the theory that life (i.e., the capacity for matter and energy to self-perpetuate patterns/configurations over time) emerged from the primordial ooze of the mixture of chemicals and heat of the earth, then one could conclude that the capacity for life is a result of natural chemical reaction, similar to the results of mixing baking soda and vinegar.
If this is indeed the case, on a much larger scale one could see that the progression of life and its evolution over time to produce higher forms of ordered energy and matter is actually a very long complicated series of chemical reactions, a deterministic result of matter interacting with energy. If this is indeed the case, then it could be postulated that the actions of you and I are not in fact random, but the direct result of the actions preceding us.
Following the course of history lends credence to the idea of how the past establishes and affects the present, and continues its influence in the future. We learn from our parents how to walk and talk, we make decisions based on the experiences that preceded us, and we have natural instincts that help form our decisions when approaching the stimuli we face in our everyday encounters.
Given all this, that life could be just the result of the universal capacity for matter and energy to interact with one another, and the possibility for the long-term reaction-based emergence of life (the self perpetuating patterns of matter and energy), one may conclude that life is not necessarily different than matter, but merely matter in a different chemical reaction of sorts, i.e. in a different state/configuration, as the sun is in a different state/configuration.
As humans, it is not surprising, I think, that we want to find ourselves special or perhaps different from the environment itself, and this may in fact be true in the sense that we are perhaps the most advanced configuration of matter and energy that is capable of restructuring the environment to better accommodate our capacity to self-perpetuate, extend our life patterns for longer times and improve our life patterns...
...but in that hubris we may be deluding ourselves from the true nature of our origins and our present existence, as well as the goals that life itself aspires to and what we unconsciously aspire to as well (and perhaps, all the universe unconsciously aspires to as well).
While we are made up of the same basic principles we have experienced enough 'evolution' to the extent that we have developed self awareness, thought, and perception which are really all one in the same in a general sense. Rocks have yet to reach this point.. Now I won't go say someday we may see speaking rocks that have dreams to become movie stars, and astronauts, etc... but it is not impossible for rocks to get further down the evolutional chain (though I don't really want to imagine that...)
My, my...even after all of this time, I still love this beautiful song just as much as, if not mare than, the first time I heard it. This song is truly a work of art, and I believe will travel with Miku through the ages.
Now I have the strangest urge to draw a manga of HM in the real world, noticing that she's different from everyone else, and not completely herself because she's made of bits and pieces of other people. Why? I don't know. I can't even draw her. ^_^ beautiful.
deep stuff..... it's like.... you want to.... confess.... i dont know how to explain it.... but it just .... feels like youre a better person after you hear it....
Many, many thanks to all of you who share your time on this video. I'd never imagin this piece of work, which I wrote, could won 10000 views with such interesting discussion!
For Japanese, it is natural to "feel" as if there were soul exists in inorganic substance
. I certainly feel she has a soul sometime.I know she is only a software at this moment, but as it may be so that, we never know fore coming conclusion. Since we yet to know what actually soul is anyway.
Also, just who are we to decide what does have a soul and what does not? What is alive and what is not?
We do not understand even our own existance...
How are we to judge other´s ?
Some decades ago people believed plants had no will nor feeling nor reactions, yet it´s proven since some time ago that plants do react and do "suffer", even if in a primitive way when broken or ripped apart.
We just decide what is alive and what is not based on our own ignorance.
Humans react to things they want or need right? And with robots they only do what they are programmed to do because they have no true will.
We kind of have to accept that robots and programs will probably always have no will BUT, you know how in games they have glitches when things don't go the way it was programmed but it doesn't last long, but what if we could create a long-lasting glitch with robots that gives them their own will? It'd be awesomely awesome!
The Vocaloids are so human-like that sometimes I forget that the Vocaloids are just voice synthisizing programs... it's sad really, I think it'd be wonderful if they were real... however, I am very glad that there are so many ways to give the Vocaloids "feelings" in their songs that the fact that they're not humans fades away as we hear them sing... btw Miku's song here is beautiful... :3
Like our pets-- We give them a personality, even though they're just an animal.
A robot can be given emotions and be programmed what to do and think; much like humans. Humans are told what to do and think according to society instead of thinking for themselves.
A robot can never be given free will though. That's what seperates us from robots.
Emotions would be too much for a robot to handle, though. Humans can forget; a robot could never do that.
Does it matter if they are an improved version or copy? They are still exist. The kind of personality or will is defined by the capabilities of the robot. Much like a human.
Well, humans created robots to do things for them, so that'd make robots copies of a human. They're there to take the commands of what a human would do. Kinda like slaves when you think about it.
Agreed. Humans can't make something capable of thinking therefore robots only do stuff what we make or tell them to do for personal gain, that indeed sounds like slavery to me.
yes the first AI,s will have no rigths it will be like wuth the black peopel in america cheap work resurches its unclear waht will happen becaus the difernt is just too big how ever everyone is just that waht the peopel around you make out of you.even aftr your dead you will "live" as a memori^^. miku dont exist but she is waht we made out of her if you look that way she is more famos then the most human being will ever be xD
for exampel you canot really controll you vital functions if you try not too breath your body will forche you .you can cantrole if you sleep with a women/men but you canot controle if you find him/her atractiv. got waht i mean?
look at computer technology from around 1960 and now and see the diffrent^^ i think if we old and grey we will se the first buggy sentient AI (i hope they are not from microsoft<.<)
well rafamax humans ar just controlled bey ther hormons an DNA and hormons alle are just simpel cemical reactions between atmos made of protons neutrons and electrons.you can tell me wehere into that our soul is? also nobody can EXACTLY tell waht a soul
the best comment ever said to a discusion if artifactal life forms can have a soul was
@MiamiGoddess: GTFO here. You deserve to die horribly, in the most torturous way possible. Can't you feel the raw emotion? The wish to become real, but unable to? Just a figment of computer data, but she becomes real. She's real in all our hearts! You heretic! Go die! How can you be so apathetic? Idiot D8<
aracinid 1 month ago
actually the *snow* make this song beautiful .. :')
95Suzuran 2 months ago
I love this song! I litterly cried because I heard this.
anacondana2 5 months ago
This is probably mikus most beautiful song....the song makes me sad although i like it ^___^ it makes me feel bad for miku that she can never be human
MsLugiratina 6 months ago
^_^
Animediva8888 6 months ago
Omg, this is so calming, and sweet, better than most operas iv'e heard <3
ayinouss 7 months ago in playlist Hatsune Miku Songs
I love Hatsune Miku, and I agree with all those positive comments about her and this song. It is absolutely wonderful. For those 11 who hate this, go away. We don't want those who harbor misery and cruel intentions for our beloved Virtual Diva and her melodic and angelic voice. Go back to your music, and don't disturb us again!
Frei143 8 months ago
A masterpiece, thank you for uploading this!
Cujucuyo 8 months ago
Universaux@ Thank You so muc for uploading this!
I never get tired of listening to this! So beautiful and heart touching. It just sends so many emotions.
Serinty13 8 months ago
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Ritsuka2461 8 months ago
Where can I find the romaji lyrics? It's so beautiful T_T
VampireOuji 9 months ago
Thank you all for your appreciations!
@VampireOuji
Here is a rough transcription in Romaji (Hepburn based).
1/2
Hibiki furuwasu Kirameki-no Hamon
Katachi-zukurareru watashi-no Utagoe
Uta-(h)a hirogaru, anata-(w)o tsutsumu-tameni
Karimono-no Kotoba, karisome-no Kokoro, hitotoki-dake-no Tamashii-dakedo
Oto-no kakera-(w)o kakiatsumete, kanaderu anata-no Kotoba
Oto-no kakera-(w)o kakiatsumete, tsutaetai anata-no Kokoro
Universaux 9 months ago
@Universaux
The rest of the transcription:
2/2
Motto hibikasetai
Kanawanu Negai, chitteyuku Kotoba, toketeyuku Kokoro
Soredemo sakebu, kieteyuku Tamashii furuwasete, Uta-(h)e-to kaeru maeni todoite
Wasurenaide Uta-(w)o, wasurenaide, anata-to watashi-no Uta-(w)o.
Universaux 9 months ago
@Universaux Thank you!
VampireOuji 9 months ago
I'd never thought I would hear such comments for a video. I've read praise, and there's been plenty of it here, but all the emotion, all the thought, all the feeling and discussion here is so deep. People tend to bicker on all videos, but this is one of the few where just about everyone is getting along, more than that we are having discussions on existentialism & emotion. Does Miku Hatsune, a non-human, non-sentient(?), program bring out the best in we sentient human beings?
JukoDDT 9 months ago
This song is so touching and beautiful, it makes me wanna cry every time...I just wish I could let it all out..... TT.TT Who knew a synthesizer could bring so much emotion??
ForeverDerpy 10 months ago
"Sadness flies on the wings of the morning and out of the heart of darkness comes the light."
ValhallaTV 10 months ago
Zelda anyone?
MrMudNugget 11 months ago
no words can describe this wonderful song TT^TT so great.
blurmieh 1 year ago
It's amazing the psychological effect the vocaloids had. Instead of just being a program with a voice, image and name, it became a complete person with feelings and almost a life. Even more amazing, the mass affect this had, not just limited to one person or a group, but to millions of people all over the world giving a computer program a general agreement on a personality. Miku and the other vocaloids have evolved; they are becoming people without a body.
PlatinumxAlchemist 1 year ago 9
sometimes when miku and the other vocaloids sing songs it sounds like they want to be human instead of a robot/software :(
MandaGokudera 1 year ago 12
one of the most beutiful miku songs known
noodlesthebunny 1 year ago
"Unrealizable!
Longing!
Disseminating!
Words...and my mind is dissolving..!"
MetafalicaShine 1 year ago
i cried....TT^TT im tht kind of person who would cry with such sad stuff.......
bluekeanu1 1 year ago
This is very very nice musically and artistically. Wish I knew where to buy great things like this. Hollywood is fresh out of these ideas :)
gwdone 1 year ago
I thought this was really awesome. Never thought a Vocaloid was capable of opera, but I was pleasantly surprised.
Warriorwolf1114 1 year ago
awesome song
HellPerro 1 year ago
wow this song takes my breath away i love it u need more like this please!!!!^_^
renji5574 1 year ago
absolutely beautiful.
assemblyrequiredx 1 year ago
this is so pretty and i love it because its so awsome!
blossomluver1 1 year ago
Rarely is there a song that gives me chills. But this is one of them.
QueenXOfXHearts77 1 year ago
wow it is sad toooo sad
TheNicolee93 1 year ago
I think she's talking about how she and other vocaloids are short lived fads. She doesn't want to die, but she knows that she'll live on within us. Then she tells us not to forget her and the other vocaloids, but we have to sing our own song. But I think she's generalizing about technology as well. She represents technology, and she's telling us to not forget about technology, but not to forget about our humanity in the process.
Chiimokosan 1 year ago 2
@Chiimokosan well put reflection!
jarisfurry 1 year ago
@jarisfurry Why thank yew. : 3
Chiimokosan 1 year ago
@Chiimokosan your welcome! \(^.^)/
jarisfurry 1 year ago
@jarisfurry AHY-MU-COD! I love that smiley! x D
Chiimokosan 1 year ago
@Chiimokosan blushies! ( ' # /o\ # ')
jarisfurry 1 year ago
This is possibly the most beautiful, and definitely the most interesting, piece of Hatsune Miku music I've seen and heard - music and images combined. Finally using Miku's synthetic, almost ethereal voice where it adds something a human voice could not add.
Bitchwolf 1 year ago
1:12 SHE'S STARING INTO YOUR SOUL!!
jabathehutt5555 1 year ago
I feel like I'm being drawn in.... *snaps out of it* DAMN THAT WAS CLOSE..
shoujoluvr707 1 year ago
It's called stock characters, SanguineUltima.
azayakachan 1 year ago
in the end she's just a pool of data. if i was her i would be sad too, knowing that she can never become real. this song gets me every time
0MikuHatsune0 1 year ago 2
@0MikuHatsune0 To me...call me an otaku..but she's a singer that lives on within us. She's much more meaningful to me at least. but yes, in the end, she's just data.
Chiimokosan 1 year ago
The cello in the intro is captivating and so beautiful, like the rest of the song. :)
PekanChan 1 year ago
Does anyone else think of Chobits (Chi) when they watch this?
100yuki001 1 year ago
epic :DD
nikotannikorpg 1 year ago
Is there any way I could get the romaji lyrics for this? Or the kanji, even? :3
TheLastSophieAlive 1 year ago
DUDE Watch this in fullscreen IT'S EPIC!
FireIsShiny 1 year ago
is it just me or does this song feel like nostalgia....
holyheartkimi 1 year ago
This video made me realize that maybe the VOCALOIDs are real, maybe not in our reality but maybe in our hearts and soul. Like us we might just be "alive" in someone else heart because they wanted us to be "alive" in some shape or form.
Thecoventv 1 year ago 4
@Thecoventv
Yes, singing programs are alive in both hearts and soul.
NOT.
KrispyApplez 1 year ago
@Thecoventv that's actually a HUGE theme in a lot of the songs- being worthless, fear of being thrown away, forgotten- because that's what humans usually do with artificial, nonliving things- once they are bored, they throw them away. Miku Hatsune, I think, is supposed to represent a person that sings her happiness, her sadness, sings things that reach our hearts, even though she's not real- but underneath that, there is a fear that she won't be loved because she isn't real.
QueenXOfXHearts77 1 year ago
Sometimes I ask myself, how real are vocaloids? I mean thay used to be just programs but after fans, they kinda 'turn alive' maybe I'm just saying deliring things but I think miku is alive, the fans gave her life...
v3ro125 1 year ago 2
made me cry
frostedlambs 1 year ago
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itena 1 year ago
This song... it's as if it's trying to reach into the soul of the listener. It makes my heart wrench a little.
itena 1 year ago 2
this song is so...i cant even explain but its awsome!^-^miku is the best!
TheXvocaloidsX 1 year ago 5
If you don't like it go back to your music. I personally find this emotional and profound. If you think it sucks go ahead, those who enjoy it will enjoy it and you won't; your loss.
StUPiDrAnDOmNesS 1 year ago 68
@StUPiDrAnDOmNesS
Did someone made a bad comment about this video? ._.
(I love this video too!)
FatalNarutoxMio 1 year ago
@StUPiDrAnDOmNesS Very nice comment. But, dont want to sound mean, no one posted a bad comment about the video ^^''
ChuChoDrawer3 10 months ago 2
awesome
FERNANDO4846 2 years ago 2
musica elettronica..musica che domina
IMPERO81 2 years ago
brave!! perfecto!! this song is very beautiful it's like miku very essence is in this song very beautiful ahhhhh~ never heard a machine could sing such an emotional song. and the video has a nostalgic effect some what melancholy effect.
maosama013 2 years ago 6
Are there any words powerful enough to describe this song, this feeling, this soul, this love?
No, good sir.
It is as impeccable as it can be.
TheLastSophieAlive 2 years ago 10
Is there like a show for this?
Renton156 2 years ago
this video and song is beautiful and freaky at the same time
MsLugiratina 2 years ago
Wow. This is a really good son,g but very sad. Why does it seem like the video is old O.o
MollyIsAFreak17 2 years ago 4
....i got chills....
i never get chills because of little things like a song..........
RazberryPineapple 2 years ago
this song is so sad sounding and very pretty too, da~! +favorites+
XOBrokenPorcelainOX 2 years ago
O.O ack its so good but so slow...
Pegawolf 2 years ago
the aboriginal miku were kwl!!!
agnishika 2 years ago 3
@MiamiGodess Promotional Video
GELU1996 2 years ago 2
Not entirely sure what it stands for, but it's pretty much just saying it's an actual music video.
dreamsmadeflesh1 2 years ago 8
this Tune sounds sooo sad it makes me wanna cry D: all who think the same say Aye.
Emilyaucoin 2 years ago 2
Me recuerda a la película de Fantasia xD
MokaDJFox 2 years ago
Aggea: I been thinking about this a lot...but I never actualy thought of saying anything till now.
Personaly, I think that behind everyone one of these Vocaloids is a lovley soul. Miku's, I've noticed, is expecaily beautiful.
shamangirltouka 2 years ago 2
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Don't kid yourself.
They may have vibrant personalities given to them by the fans, but in the end they're still just electronic data, a program. They don't have life, or souls. That's up to us.
SonjaArashi 2 years ago
Aggea: Ahaha ^^ kaykay, but the fans have given her something lovely, if you wanna put it thats way, as if they have givin her a soul to match the voice.
shamangirltouka 2 years ago 6
I agree with you...but them fans ain't gonna like this D:
McSohai 2 years ago 2
makes you think the volcaliods are prisoners and not free singers.......saddness,sorrow,.....pain...... 20/10 for best video of all!!!!!!!!
MetafalicaShine 2 years ago 4
Miku + Opera = addicting.
animecraazee 2 years ago 51
This song is pretty. ^^ But long. xP
Angelx624 2 years ago
I can't get the tune...
theMoporter 2 years ago
that reminds me.. i would love to see miku do the mummers dance
Endrance88 2 years ago 2
My perception is that miku is awesome and I love her.
:3
HellGateFanticLeader 2 years ago 4
Ahhaha, well, in a way I used to be a college professor, come to think of it. What I wrote is actually a personal response to some of the comments Zalamath posted, so it's not quoted.
I'm a non-religious, world-traveling artist trained as a scientist. I've given a fair share of thought to understanding the nature of life and existence, if that helps put the posts in perspective.
Kentama 2 years ago
Btw, this reminds me a lot of Xenogears, and other games that deal heavily with conciousness as well as some animes such as Experiments Lain, etc. Its refreshing.
Zalamath 2 years ago
Well put my friend. I couldn't have possibly said it more eloquently myself. It's a pity more film and music in western media doesn't reflect on themes of existentialism and reality. Xenogears, Dothack, Lain, Code Geass, and Evangelion are all prime examples, among others...
SanguineUltima 2 years ago
I could say so many wonderful things about this....
I'd give it a gazillion starts if I could.....
Pure amazing.
RPerPerson 2 years ago 2
Awesome, amazing, adorable! 5/5 stars and more, if it would have been possible.
Feinsgular 2 years ago 2
iCry
blackchips909 2 years ago 5
Sounds really beautiful!
Thanks for posting this video, it's pure poetry
enistoja 2 years ago 2
at 1:10 to 1:13 Miku looks like a Code Geass character.
Izunafan101 2 years ago 8
i don't see it
captaincanteloupe 2 years ago
you know how the artis of Code Geass makes the chins like a point? if you look at her chin its a point. and if you look at her face after that, she looks like she's from Code Geass.
Izunafan101 2 years ago
i miss that anime .-.
sonicherores 2 years ago
why? it's still on. you can watch it.... if you wait till about 1:30 AM on sundays....
Izunafan101 2 years ago
um both seasons are finished .-.
sonicherores 2 years ago
i just watched it sunday morning...
Izunafan101 2 years ago 2
what a beautiful song <3
thekungfufighter 2 years ago 3
@ Zedox : she is no ANIME its an Vocaloid charakter it means she is an virtual charakter who can sing with any synhtmetic or how that called programm so she is no anime but she is in a lot of games because she is so famous and everyone like she !
pochiarimu 3 years ago 2
ya everyone but my sister, she says she has red spiky hair... and a smilyface shirt... eww
DarkStarboye 2 years ago
Una de las cosas más tristes que he escuchado en mi vida o_o
Me pone en depresión jajajaa.
Pero sigue siendo muy buena, me encanta.
AnaMaria456 3 years ago 2
JUST MUST ASK!!!! Is Hatsune Miku a anime or does she exist IN a anime? :) would be happy if someone replied
zedox10 3 years ago
She is originally one of the VOCALOIDs (vocal-synthesizing software, technologically developed by YAMAHA), not a character in anime. Thanks to all activities of the fans (including composers, illustrators etc.), however, she has some existence, at least, in our imaginary. Sorry, as this space is not enough, to know more detail, could you search (english) Wikipedia with "Vocaloid"? You would find more detailed information there.
Universaux 3 years ago 2
Actually your part is true. There is a manga that a japanese artist took over. Try googling it :)
MisdermeanerJ 3 years ago 2
she was once in Lucky Star XD
bratznextopmodelover 3 years ago
kagami.....
purdoy25 3 years ago
@zedox10 There is also a manga for the VOCALOIDs called Hatsune Mix I believe.
Thecoventv 1 year ago
Now that does make me think. In a way, she's a formless collective creation, only existing in songs and in images and in imagination. For a abstract concept to yearn for a form it can't hope to realize, that seems so sad.
Kentama 3 years ago 29
wow thats deep...
Momoko2288 3 years ago 5
I think the various anime archetypes and vocaloid personalities are all part of a certain collective unconcious that exists in our hearts. I only just started getting into them (Rin, Len, Miku, etc) in the last week or so, but they all seemed very familiar right away. Did anyone else feel something similar?
SanguineUltima 3 years ago 9
If the theoretical aspects of this problem (collectivity of imaginary in Japanese Anime-Manga culture) interest you, recently a book written by Hiroki Azuma, young Japanese philosopher, is translated into English ("Otaku: Japan's Database Animals") and in French ("Génération Otaku : Les enfants de la postmodernité"). I don't totally share his analysis, but this book would provide some hints to understand the background.
Universaux 3 years ago 6
Thank you very sincerely for the recommendation! I will surely look into the name, as well as the book. Sound's like he might share some of my opinions on the matter, I'll have to investigate further. Thanks also for posting this wonderful song, I very much enjoy it.
SanguineUltima 3 years ago
If by collective unconcious.. you mean can we relate to them and realize their existance and feelings.. then sure. We can come to terms and understand their feelings because we have had experiences throughout our lives that in some way relate to various aspects of these character archetypes. This is even further encompased by the reality of the saying 'truth is in the eye of the beholder' and we can each percieve them in a unique manner that ultimately relates to ourselves. Familiarity.. indeed.
Zalamath 2 years ago
@SanguineUltima
They are all pretty familure at the start, but if you watch fan made videos/songs, you'll find they they're way too open I guess... Giving us too much room to make them who we think they should be...
Which makes them that much better, because Kaito can come off as a cockyhotty, a childish fool, or a normal young-adult...
Which probably makes them more realistic 'cause no one is always the exact same. Oh well. (:
<Len3
100yuki001 1 year ago
Of course... these creations themselves are incapable of yearning for anything as they are merely an abstraction painted out into a archetype which is then given a role that we each percieve differently. It, however, can not percieve there for it does not exist. "Cogito, Ergo sum" I think, therefore I am. (I think, therefore I exist.)
Zalamath 2 years ago
But then, is it also possible that we too are painted abstractions, just like the electric soul? A rock is said to not 'perceive', but does it not exist? But then, who is to say that a rock (simply because it is unlike a living creature) cannot actually perceive in a way that cannot be sensed by humans? And, what exactly is existence? There may be much more to reality and the dizzying possibilities for its' foundations than we may ever know or perceive through the possibly limited human senses.
Kentama 2 years ago
While that holds some interesting thoughts... it all comes down to perception. Existience is defined by one's perception of reality and what is/is not. In short... a rock can not react based on stimulus, but a human being or living creature can. If we yell at a dog it will pee itself, if we yell at a child it will cry, if we yell, kick, or threaten a rock it will do nothing. Perhaps we do not comprehend how it reacts? Can a rock choose to be diamon, sediment, etc.? Can it choose to wear down?
Zalamath 2 years ago
One of the most intriguing aspects of conciousness, existence, and being is self awareness and irrationality. Animals be it human, canine, or an arthropod... it can act irrationaly, fear, and percieve... its own existence and that of anothers'. It may irrationally protect its offspring sacrificing its very 'own' life.. Rocks can not do this unfortunately. Neither can computer programs. No matter how you program it its predetermined like the thousands of tunnels and paths water may flow.
Zalamath 2 years ago
One could argue that humans are limited too and their fates predetermined, that we never actually make choices ourselves but that they are forced upon us and we merely believe this scheme is of our will. Based on the law of causality there is an infinite number of occurences (i.e. possibilities) for every action. In other words time and space diverge infinitely. Rocks alway have limited outcomes... human occurence continues indefinately, however.Further,beings can percieve infinitely, rocks cant
Zalamath 2 years ago
By definition this makes the entity that percieves (dreams/thinks of...) us 'God' and by definition this makes that of which is capable of self awareness the second order of that chain. Capable of conciousness... another way to put it is there is that which exists purely to exist, and that which needs a reason to exist... existentialism you could say... of course there are extremes so one must be careful in how they interpret it.
Zalamath 2 years ago
Again.. this is furthered by infinite perceptions of reality... or to be more precise based on the law of causality... existence is defined by the infinite perceptions of occurence which define individiual realities for each self awareness (conciousness) and further... diverges into greater infinite possibities... I can interpret an occurence an infinite number of ways... and an infinite number of events can follow each of which I can infinitely percieve in various ways once again.
Zalamath 2 years ago
Based on programming structure it is either.... Choice A and if not A then take choice B/C/etc. (of coures its limited... due to memory space...memroy will always be finite) and then followed by this take choice... A/B/C/etc. and maybe do a loop (repeat action/occurence) then another choice... etc. until it reaches end of program or infintely continues main loop (with all choices inside this reoccuring loop). While it can simulate reality... it can not branch away from its path... 'ever'.
Zalamath 2 years ago
While humans are capable of performing spontaneous and irrational actions..rocks..and computer 'AI'..can only act within predefined parameters(restricted due to memory..and time)that produce exact results based on the way they are programmed..If action A is taken then continue to follow path B and at checkpoints roll dice/use statistics(given percentages/odds of..)to branch to another path..Only occuring based on predetermined posibilities. Irrationality is defined as the opposite of this nature
Zalamath 2 years ago
This is an interesting line of thought, but I am of the belief that human beings are actually no different from the rest of the matter in the universe. If you think about it, we are physically composed of the same matter as the minerals and elements found on the earth, and the calories we burn that allow for our physical movement can be followed through the chain of life to simply being energy from the sun.
Kentama 2 years ago
There is, of course, a difference in the nature of a rock and a living organism. A living organism is inherently a pattern of matter and energy that self-perpetuates over time, a negative entropy of sorts that improves upon itself to live longer and in more stable forms of order. A rock, by itself, does not contain these properties. But, under circumstances, the matter that makes up a rock can become a part of life itself.
Kentama 2 years ago
Iron, Zinc, Copper, Magnesium, etc., are all minerals that, by themselves in nature, do not exhibit the aspects of life. When absorbed into a lifeform like a human, however, they are essentially a part of the life of the human organism. They become a part of a self-perpetuating pattern, though perhaps only for a short time as the human body constantly replenishes and reforms itself with nutrients from the surrounding environment.
Kentama 2 years ago
If one were to ascribe to the theory that life (i.e., the capacity for matter and energy to self-perpetuate patterns/configurations over time) emerged from the primordial ooze of the mixture of chemicals and heat of the earth, then one could conclude that the capacity for life is a result of natural chemical reaction, similar to the results of mixing baking soda and vinegar.
Kentama 2 years ago 2
If this is indeed the case, on a much larger scale one could see that the progression of life and its evolution over time to produce higher forms of ordered energy and matter is actually a very long complicated series of chemical reactions, a deterministic result of matter interacting with energy. If this is indeed the case, then it could be postulated that the actions of you and I are not in fact random, but the direct result of the actions preceding us.
Kentama 2 years ago 2
Following the course of history lends credence to the idea of how the past establishes and affects the present, and continues its influence in the future. We learn from our parents how to walk and talk, we make decisions based on the experiences that preceded us, and we have natural instincts that help form our decisions when approaching the stimuli we face in our everyday encounters.
Kentama 2 years ago
Given all this, that life could be just the result of the universal capacity for matter and energy to interact with one another, and the possibility for the long-term reaction-based emergence of life (the self perpetuating patterns of matter and energy), one may conclude that life is not necessarily different than matter, but merely matter in a different chemical reaction of sorts, i.e. in a different state/configuration, as the sun is in a different state/configuration.
Kentama 2 years ago
As humans, it is not surprising, I think, that we want to find ourselves special or perhaps different from the environment itself, and this may in fact be true in the sense that we are perhaps the most advanced configuration of matter and energy that is capable of restructuring the environment to better accommodate our capacity to self-perpetuate, extend our life patterns for longer times and improve our life patterns...
Kentama 2 years ago
...but in that hubris we may be deluding ourselves from the true nature of our origins and our present existence, as well as the goals that life itself aspires to and what we unconsciously aspire to as well (and perhaps, all the universe unconsciously aspires to as well).
Kentama 2 years ago
Ummm comment much? =/
PandaSings 2 years ago 6
While we are made up of the same basic principles we have experienced enough 'evolution' to the extent that we have developed self awareness, thought, and perception which are really all one in the same in a general sense. Rocks have yet to reach this point.. Now I won't go say someday we may see speaking rocks that have dreams to become movie stars, and astronauts, etc... but it is not impossible for rocks to get further down the evolutional chain (though I don't really want to imagine that...)
Zalamath 2 years ago
BEATIFUL!!!!!
T.T ^///^
AleLaSciamana 3 years ago 2
T.T beautifully sad magnificent job!
mimi9306 3 years ago
My, my...even after all of this time, I still love this beautiful song just as much as, if not mare than, the first time I heard it. This song is truly a work of art, and I believe will travel with Miku through the ages.
Dogbot3000 3 years ago 4
uwaah..^^ So amazing. Miku-chan is the greatest.
UchihaEna 3 years ago
the beginning reminds me of legend of zelda windwaker XD
animelovr777 3 years ago
Now I have the strangest urge to draw a manga of HM in the real world, noticing that she's different from everyone else, and not completely herself because she's made of bits and pieces of other people. Why? I don't know. I can't even draw her. ^_^ beautiful.
voiceofopinion 3 years ago
the song is so sad and beautiful( how come everything sad is beautiful). it gives you a different view of things.
GAARAShadow 3 years ago
Why does this remind me of the beginning of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time so much? o.O
bloodtearalchemist 3 years ago
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. The music is haunting, and the lyrics invoke thought. I was almost moved to tears.
peachandhoney 3 years ago
deep stuff..... it's like.... you want to.... confess.... i dont know how to explain it.... but it just .... feels like youre a better person after you hear it....
xXMiyukiSamaXx 3 years ago
Many, many thanks to all of you who share your time on this video. I'd never imagin this piece of work, which I wrote, could won 10000 views with such interesting discussion!
For Japanese, it is natural to "feel" as if there were soul exists in inorganic substance
. I certainly feel she has a soul sometime.I know she is only a software at this moment, but as it may be so that, we never know fore coming conclusion. Since we yet to know what actually soul is anyway.
mausublow 3 years ago 2
Also, just who are we to decide what does have a soul and what does not? What is alive and what is not?
We do not understand even our own existance...
How are we to judge other´s ?
Some decades ago people believed plants had no will nor feeling nor reactions, yet it´s proven since some time ago that plants do react and do "suffer", even if in a primitive way when broken or ripped apart.
We just decide what is alive and what is not based on our own ignorance.
i wonder what the future and
Ifrianpsu 3 years ago
Knowledge will bring.
Ifrianpsu 3 years ago
Let's see. I'm dead all right when we got the answer, though :-)
mausublow 3 years ago
This stuff is deep
8AnimeLover8 3 years ago
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Some topics come off,
Thing which music comes from God, and comes back to God
I do not, whatever it is, mind the process
MatsudaYouWhoShoot 3 years ago
Humans react to things they want or need right? And with robots they only do what they are programmed to do because they have no true will.
We kind of have to accept that robots and programs will probably always have no will BUT, you know how in games they have glitches when things don't go the way it was programmed but it doesn't last long, but what if we could create a long-lasting glitch with robots that gives them their own will? It'd be awesomely awesome!
deathwish527 3 years ago 3
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Program them to do what they want randomly ROFL XD
Riizaru 3 years ago
Wow, that was beautiful! All the artist fanart and beautiful song!! I loved it!!
deathwish527 3 years ago
The Vocaloids are so human-like that sometimes I forget that the Vocaloids are just voice synthisizing programs... it's sad really, I think it'd be wonderful if they were real... however, I am very glad that there are so many ways to give the Vocaloids "feelings" in their songs that the fact that they're not humans fades away as we hear them sing... btw Miku's song here is beautiful... :3
azmariah94 3 years ago 5
I believe /we/ are what gives Miku her soul.
Like our pets-- We give them a personality, even though they're just an animal.
A robot can be given emotions and be programmed what to do and think; much like humans. Humans are told what to do and think according to society instead of thinking for themselves.
A robot can never be given free will though. That's what seperates us from robots.
Emotions would be too much for a robot to handle, though. Humans can forget; a robot could never do that.
PlatinumxAlchemist 3 years ago 5
Still, is a robot an improved version of the human or is it just a copy of a human being?
3Residence3 3 years ago 3
Does it matter if they are an improved version or copy? They are still exist. The kind of personality or will is defined by the capabilities of the robot. Much like a human.
raiconm 3 years ago
Well, humans created robots to do things for them, so that'd make robots copies of a human. They're there to take the commands of what a human would do. Kinda like slaves when you think about it.
Shugotenshi99 3 years ago
Agreed. Humans can't make something capable of thinking therefore robots only do stuff what we make or tell them to do for personal gain, that indeed sounds like slavery to me.
3Residence3 3 years ago
so the lirics arent really with the song?
KentaiAkatsuki 3 years ago
Try listening to the sound only, please.
There appears to be the story of your own.
kuroyagi007 3 years ago 2
yes the first AI,s will have no rigths it will be like wuth the black peopel in america cheap work resurches its unclear waht will happen becaus the difernt is just too big how ever everyone is just that waht the peopel around you make out of you.even aftr your dead you will "live" as a memori^^. miku dont exist but she is waht we made out of her if you look that way she is more famos then the most human being will ever be xD
ps: i like too talk with you guys^^
eisvogel01 3 years ago
for exampel you canot really controll you vital functions if you try not too breath your body will forche you .you can cantrole if you sleep with a women/men but you canot controle if you find him/her atractiv. got waht i mean?
look at computer technology from around 1960 and now and see the diffrent^^ i think if we old and grey we will se the first buggy sentient AI (i hope they are not from microsoft<.<)
eisvogel01 3 years ago
well rafamax humans ar just controlled bey ther hormons an DNA and hormons alle are just simpel cemical reactions between atmos made of protons neutrons and electrons.you can tell me wehere into that our soul is? also nobody can EXACTLY tell waht a soul
the best comment ever said to a discusion if artifactal life forms can have a soul was
"humans are just orcanis machins"
pls comment this^^
eisvogel01 3 years ago 2
sounds logic too me!:D and soo smart tha