"It is only if human life is respected from conception to death that the ethics of peace is also possible and credible," concluded the Pope. "It is only then that non-violence can express itself in every direction; only then that we truly welcome creation, and only then that we can arrive at true justice." Pope Benedict XVI
If I was a girl, I would get pregnant as many times as possible, then have abortions after the third month of being pregnant so I would deliver a potato sized 1/3 developed dead fetus. Then, I would take the fetus, put it in a jar of preservative fluid and put it on a shelf in a secret room in my house, and I would do it until I had so many that the rooms walls were nothing but potato sized aborted fetuses. Then, I would have a kid and when they were bad I would make them sit in the room.
people should really try to vote pro-life. if your voting for a president thats not willing to defend one of the most innocent human beings who are they going to defend?
How stupid a clump of cells!? I had a early ultrasound at 2 months and my clump of cells had a strong heart beat at the months I had another ultrasound and baby was fully formed so no its not a clump of cells its a little baby if girls don't want to get pregnant close your freaking legs!! Simple as that!! Birth control!! Condoms or just plain and simple get your tubes tied.
why have you used pictures of babies? a fetus is not a baby. Personally i dont think anyone has the right to tell me what i can and cant do with my own body. Pregnancy is a massive strain on the female body can cause serious health problems. The message your sending out is women shouldn't be able to control what happens to their own bodies because of a clump of cells not even aware its alive. Consideration of the woman should be paramount.
@aprildcarreon Birth control is not perfect. Many women who get abortions used some form of contraception. Please get educated before posting such a comment.
Ok, seriously, I had to make the comment and I usually don't even respond to youtube videos but um...
YOU DONT ABORT FULL-TERM BABIES. YOU ABORT DURING THE FIRST TRIMESTER meaning um... 85% of your video was live BABIES that have already been born. If your going to make a video about abortions, how about actually using pictures of "babies" as a fetus in it's first trimester. Kthx...
Anlina, you simply don't understand the FORmation of the universe because it's a P2C2E,(for a couple of decades, maybe) and you would get a lot better idea if you watched a bit more NOVA(there was a good segment they did on the big bang and string theory recently). Plz, just listen to...
If sunlight abrogated the second law, scientists could not have discovered the law. Heat energy flowing into our world increases entropy! Oxidation increases, chemical actions speeds up, and other patterns of degeneration quicken. Harold F. Blum, a biochemist, wrote an entire book on this law. He mantains that this law does apply to our world and everything in it. Consider a human body & all what we do to maintain it, yet all the while it keeps weakening and eventually we all die.
Yes chemical reactions speed up, which release heat and back to entropy... The second law favors the spontaneous formation of increasingly complex geometrically ordered molecules, which gain order as individual systems but end in a net decrease in order. People are wrong when they talk about complete disorder because they fail to understand that chemistry, the study of all matter, deals with millions of compounds with less energy than the compounds they form.
(cont) In summary, "Energetically, the second law of thermodynamics favors the formation of the majority of all known complex and ordered chemical compounds directly from their simpler elements. Thus, contrary to popular opinion, the second law does not dictate the decrease of ordered structure by its predictions. It only demands a "spreading out" of energy when such ordered compounds are formed spontaneously."
Major problems of Uranium-lead: Lead could originally have been mixed in with the uranium of thorium. Part of the uranium and its daughter products could previously have leached out. There can be inaccurate lead ratio comparisons, due to different types of lead within the sample. Radiogenic lead isotope 207 could actually have been formed from lead 206, simply by having captured free neutrons from other rocks. Molten rocks would produce a wild variation in clock settings.
Geologist G.W. Wetherill admits "the two principal problems have been the uncertainties in the radioactive decay constants of potassium and in the ability of minerals to retain the argon produced by this decay." Paleoanthropologist Alberto Angela, also made the following statement when a potassium-argon date for an artifact did not support his previously held notion: "Of course, there may be uncertainties about the dating and interpretation of fossils (and, in fact, there are divergences)".
The uranium-lead system in its simpler forms, using U-238, U-235, and thorium-232, has proved to be less reliable than many of the other dating systems. This is because both uranium and lead are less easily retained in many of the minerals in which they are found. Yet the fact that there are three dating systems all in one allows scientists to easily determine whether the system has been disturbed or not.
Using slightly more complicated mathematics, different combinations of the lead isotopes and parent isotopes can be plotted in such a way as to minimize the effects of lead loss. One of these techniques is called the lead-lead technique because it determines the ages from the lead isotopes alone." I wouldn't recommend just copying and pasting stuff from creationists sites. They usually tell half-truths, such as in this situation. Besides, those quotes mean nothing without evidence.
Potassium occurs widely in fossil-bearing strata, & cuz of such wide dating variations there is no agreement on its halflife Argon quickly leaves the mineral and escape into other rocks and atmosphere So argon migrate in and out potassium rocks altering the dating Rain moves potassium from one location to another & it must be calculated by uranium-lead which is extremely unreliable The potassium-argon dated rocks (that were less than 200 years) to ages ranging 1.60 million to 2.96 billion years
(cont) explanations. They are logical constructs of facts, tested hypotheses, laws, etc put together to explain a phenomenon. I'm not saying I'd rather lose all facts than theories. I'm saying science is built on theories. Can you cite that information about radiometric dating? Thanks. But I hope you understand that even though radiometric dating is obviously not 100% accurate, to be off by what you claim, that would be like saying NYC is 50m away from SF. Uranium-lead is the most
(cont) reliable when done right. How is it unreliable? Please extrapolate on your points or I will not be able to counter them. The flaw in potassium argon dating is exaggerated, lied about and insignificant as explained here: ww w(dot) answersincreation (dot) or g (forward slash) blind (dot) h tm. "Dalrymple found that they are reliable. Two-thirds of the time there is no excess argon at all. And in 25 times out of 26 tests there is no excess argon or there is so little excess argon
@almostskater3210 Such theory has no FOUNDATION. Evolutionists go ahead and pile on top of it layer after layer of speculations, names, and dates. You love to say that the universe has many billions of years old, but you dont dare to discuss the fact that gas in outer space cant possibly form itself into stars, or that something moving in straight line cant by itself change directions or begin circling. Intelligence common sense and reasoning tells me evolution is a fairy tale (keep read. down)
You do know that there are several forces like gravity, electromagnetism etc that dictate how things arise. Think about it, according to us, the beginning of the universe (most popular theory is the big bang)would be when matter begins to conform to a set of laws in place... but wait this is sidetracking way too much. We're not arguing God here; we are arguing evolution. God could have started the world 14billion years ago for all I know. What about stalactites/stalagmites. They take
100,000s of years to form based on a chemical reaction with a chemical in limestone and water. (Hint: don't bring up the Lincoln Memorial. Concrete isn't limestone, another reaction takes place). What about endogenous retroviruses. We have the same virus DNA at the same point in our genome as chimpanzees. That is inexplicable for creationists. Also
@anlina07 (cont) that it will make only a tiny error, if any, in the final date for rocks millions of years old. Thus Dalrymple’s data is not consistent with a young Earth whatsoever. Indeed, if Dalrymple’s data is representative, 3 times out of 26 the K-Ar method will give a too young date." Your'e right about forming hypotheses based on observations, which is exactly how evolution was theorized, unlike creationism. You match evidence to fit what the Bible says.
An abandoned house in the middle of a huge open space -in a desert for example– is a closed system even though it is located in the middle of 100 square miles. Leave that house alone and in time it will deteriorate, it will become “totally” disorganized. That will happen to the Solar System, right? The Sun will deteriorate, and the system with it, correct? Systems are of different sizes and mater... I find your point quite irrelevant!
uhh. A closed system is a system that does not get energy, only loses it. Sorry but the sun supplies us with energy. Doesn't matter if you think the universe is closed system or not, because bodies can supply each other with energy, even if the net energy change is negative. When scientists talk about facts, they're talking about confirmed observations. Facts are a dime in a dozen. By themselves they don't do much for you. Theories are the most important things in science. They are
I bet that if people do that to pregnant dogs, to go to a vet and take the puppies out of her womb, “because YOU are not prepare to have puppies”.. many of you will be accusing them of barbarians, of murderers, of I don’t know what else. You have your priorities messed up!
@anlina07 You asked a question, assumed the answer, then concluded we have our priorities messed up based on the answer you gave to the question you asked us.
Terminating a dog's pregnancy at the early stage of dog development is not a problem at all. What's wrong with it? If you can't afford to take care of puppies, then should they just have the puppies anyway? Do you know how many dogs get gassed every day because their owners couldn't afford to take care of them? Wake up to reality.
@ninjajesus81 Haven't you heard there are actually countless number of people against gassing dogs? The point is I was trying to explain to you that YOU people (sorry, YOU cancer of the earth) have your priorities really messed up.. If we are sooo overpopulated, then why on earth all demographic data and figures point the contrary?? All the problems we see rest mainly on politics. Perhaps next time let your monkey answer my comments, pretty sure he will do better than you.
@anlina07 I don't think dogs should be gassed, I think they should be transported out into the wild if we don't want to spend money taking care of them. What demographic data point to the contrary? Demographic data wouldn't tell you about the effects of overpopulation, you don't know what you're talking about.
And now you're going on about some conspiracy with the UN. Just stop.
For those selfish women that want to have a perfect life where only them matters.. STOP acting like prostitutes and begin acting responsibly.. If you have sex there is a 99.9% probability you will get pregnant. SO DON’T DO IT if you wont take care of the child! The same shit happens when you have a dog and don`t want it to have puppies. You keep it locked in your house or you castrated it.. as simple as that! So stop acting like animals.. you animals!
@ninjajesus81 You clearly degenerate yourself to the very bottom. You think sex is all in a relationship? If you are really a person you should know that LOVE is something completely different from sex. If you don’t want to have children you shouldn’t have sex. Also let me tell you that I am not jealous at all! PLEASE! I'm sure I'm way prettier and smarter than you! I’m happily committed, I'll get marry soon, I’ll have a family and I’ll be proud of myself that I wasn't a sex doll like perhaps u
@anlina07 I don't think sex is very important in a relationship at all, but people have a desire for sex and they should be able to fulfill that desire with someone they love.
I don't think you're smarter than me and I'm a guy so I don't think I could be referred to as pretty. And I've never had sex either, I'm just aware of reality and I support freedom.
@ninjajesus81 I apologize for having thought you were a girl… Freedom is a very delicate concept, so be careful. If you don't use freedom wisely you can lose it.
Dear Loving Jesus, Do forgive your children who believe abortion is right. They do not know how horrible it is. They don't know unhuman it is. They don't know that it is murder. They don't know that these children are the gifts of the future that you sent to us. Thank you.
@Lucricia228 Abortion is no more horrible than for a woman not to get pregnant every time she ovulates. If she ovulates and she doesn't get that egg fertilized, it goes to waste. That potential human being will never exist and that woman let it happen. Do you think that's reasonable?
@ninjajesus81 umm why do you think there are many eggs? no all of them will get fertilized and no it doesn't go to waste it served its perpose. Abortion is a lot more worse then a egg no getting fertilized. i think killing a baby is way worse then the uterus thinks it is time to get pregnant because there is company and letting a egg go.
@Lucricia228 It's the same thing, abortions just happen later. Every egg that doesn't get fertilized is a potential human being being put into non-existence. That person will never exist because of someone's selfish decision not to fertilize it.
@ninjajesus81 no you don't get it, when a sperm fertilizes an egg in stasrts to become a baby, an egg needs the sperm so it does't matter if it doesn't get fertilized. a person exists after fertilization. there is no selfish decsion of not getting a egg fertilized. so what you are saying is that a 12 year old girl who is starting her period should have sex before the egg dies? abortion is way worse because it is murder and eggs not gettin fertilized doesn't mean anything.
@Lucricia228 It does mater if the egg doesn't get fertilized. Had it got fertilized, that person could exist. But now that person will never exist because it wasn't fertilized. Why are you making this so difficult?
Abortion is way worse because why? Because you're killing something that's not aware of itself? No, abortion and not fertilizing an egg is the same thing. One was made and died and the other was never made at all. That person is lost forever. How can that mean nothing?
@ninjajesus81 if they are the same then why does a baby bleed when killed and a egg doesn't? in abortion they crush the baby's head and body parts, burn it with acid, take it out of the uterus and chop it up while it is still living, throw still alive aborted babies in the trash to suffer to death slowly, and other horrible things. when the egg enters the uterus it disappears. no god puts the person's soul into the fertilized egg after joining with the sperm. so acutly you are wrong.
@Lucricia228 Your stupidity is vast. Why does a baby bleed when killed? Because it has blood in it. What does that matter? Things can die without bleeding.
In abortions they do none of the things you say they do. You're either a liar, or you believed a lie. And it's insulting that you actually expected me to believe that.
There is no god and there is no soul, so don't start talking about fairy tales with me. And you need to grow up if you actually believe all that crap.
@ninjajesus81 why are you making this so difficult? a woman has many eggs that she can spare. a baby is as much aware of itself as much as you are of yourself and me and anyone else.
So it's not bad that an egg is wasted because there are a lot of them? Then why do you care about a fetus? There's 7 billion people in the world. We can spare a few million. There's way too many people as it is, we don't need more. Stop trying to overpopulate the planet.
@ninjajesus81 a baby is aware because it has a brain.
i'm not trying to over populated the earth, anyways many people die everyday. just because we have so many people doesn't mean that we have to kill babies. I care about a baby because i want him or her to live their life instead of it being wasted. yes there are other eggs that can be fertilized.
@Lucricia228 Just because a baby has a brain doesn't make it aware. Babies don't even start forming memories until a certain age.
The world population is growing exponentially. That means people are making too many babies. And too many people can become a crisis, not just some inconvenience. It can actually become a threat to the lives of other people.
A baby being wasted is the same as a sperm and an egg being wasted. It's just a DNA combination.
@ninjajesus81 Overpopulated your brain of something called “shit”… The world is not overpopulated, that’s what many governments wants you to believe in so they can take advantage of that and make you its puppets. You could move the entire world population inside medium-sized homes and they’d all fit inside Texas, yielding a population density similar to that of Paris. There is plenty of land left folks! What we don't have is many smart people. So sad
@anlina07 You think so naively. You think the only problem we would encounter with overpopulation is running out of land? Really?
There's plenty of land left? Cool, let's just turn all that land into residential, which means we need more industrial and commercial land. Great. Let's cover the Earth with concrete. We need more cars and more pollution. Who needs trees? And fuck all the other animals that need land, because there's "plenty of land left folks" for us to take.
@ninjajesus81 Eisenstein said it "human stupidity has no limit” If there is such overpopulation then why don’t you be the first one to volunteer to kill yourself! for the sake of Mother Earth of course. It is not unborn babies fault that you feel like a cancer to earth and also guilty for you being born. Don't you get the UN is behind all of this? so we give up land ownership and hand it over to the them! All problems, like starvation, is a political disaster, not a natural one. Go Study!
@anlina07 Kill myself? I don't advocate killing adults, unless they deserve it. I advocate people being free to make the decision to have an abortion if they want to or need to.
If you care so much about unborn babies, why don't you care about a woman's egg going to waste? That's an unborn potential baby. That's a DNA combination of a human that will never exist, and you don't give a shit about that. You only care about the ones that happened to get fertilized. You're inconsistent.
@ninjajesus81 Inconsistent? Me? Life begins when there is a union of an oocyte and a sperm, this marks the beginning of a unique human being. Just a woman’s egg has nothing to do with a potential human being UNLESS there is a zygote already involved (occyte+sperm=zygote). Do you believe that JUST an egg is a potential human being? So are u saying an egg will suddenly grow arms, legs, and become a person?? Give me a break! An egg is just an egg (nothing more), a fertilized egg involves life.
@anlina07 No, life does not begin when an egg is fertilized. Sperm and egg cells are living, so they don't just suddenly spring into life when they're united.
The egg itself doesn't turn into a human being, growing arms and legs, but neither does a zygote. That zygote has to split billions of times. One zygote is not a human being, just like you're not just a skin cell.
What I'm saying is that egg had the DNA of a potential, unique, someone, if it was fertilized.
@ninjajesus81 I don`t wanna listen to what YOU BELIEVE an egg is or not, or what a zygote is or not. Prove me wrong with FACTS! And what does egg DNA matters in all of this? An egg DNA contains the mother’s DNA, a sperm contains the father’s DNA, saliva contains DNA, poop contains DNA (reasoning like u then saliva and poop contains potentiality to bring a human being?) I can prove you a zygote is already a person in formation. A zygote or fertilized egg initiate the prenatal development. STUDY
@anlina07 Your logic makes no sense. You're saying if you have an egg in one hand and a sperm in another, you can kill them and it's nothing. But if you put them together and you kill it, then that's murder? That's absurd. You're being deliberately stubborn now.
@ninjajesus81 Sorry to tell you that it’s not just MY logic dude! I’m basing all what I’ve told you on scientific FACTS, on biological FACTS, on genetic FACTS. On the other hand you are the one who have a funny logic, you just say what you wanna say. Your words are like dust in the wind.. they get lost! I’m still waiting for you TO PROVE ME WRONG with facts! I don’t wanna know what you think… SHOW ME FACTS!
@anlina07 What facts are you speaking of? That a sperm and egg uniting is a zygote? I know it is. It's not a human being, it's just one cell of a future human being.
What I'm arguing is your phoney defense of a zygote. Like I said, if a sperm and egg are separated, that means nothing to you, they can be destroyed like any piece of garbage and it doesn't matter. But once you put the sperm inside the egg, then suddenly destroying it is tantamount to murder, even though basically nothing changed.
@ninjajesus81 Let’s see if by giving you this example at least your shitty head works a little. Lets suppose the following: let’s change concepts with numbers, where sperm=1, egg=1, baby=2. If you have just #1 (egg) THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY #1 IS equal to #2. YOU NEED BOTH 1 TO GET THE RESULT OF #2. Can you even sum? 1+1=2
@anlina07 If you have 1 sperm and 1 egg, that's 1+1=2. If you kill them individually, you're still killing 2. But you don't care about that because your argument is inconsistent.
@ninjajesus81 Why is it so hard for you to get something so simple!!?
"The term embryo applies to the earliest form of life, produced when an egg (female reproductive cell) is fertilized by a sperm (male reproductive cell; semen). The fertilized egg is called a zygote. Shortly after fertilization, the zygote begins to grow and develop." (scienceclarified*com)
Doesn't say when JUST an egg begins to grow, or JUST a sperm begins to develop.
Don't have both 1, there is no way to have a 2! 1+1=2
@anlina07 You don't even know what I'm saying. Your grasp of English isn't very good. I'm explaining this clearly, yet you still manage to not understand the point I'm trying to make.
A zygote is an egg and a sperm. If they're together, they're called a zygote, and you consider it a human being. If you go back in time 10 seconds, when they're apart, then they're not a human being and they can be destroyed and it's no big deal. So 10 seconds is the difference between murder and not murder?
@ninjajesus81 Exactly! Finally! From fertilization, the being is highly organized, has the ability to acquire materials and energy, has the ability to respond to his or her environment, has the ability to adapt, and has the ability to reproduce (the cells divide, then divide again, etc., and barring pathology and pending reproductive maturity has the potential to reproduce other members of the species). Non-living things do not do these things.
@ninjajesus81 Just out of curiosity, are your parents’ siblings?... I was specifying on humans!! Because we are arguing on human life here… Remind me again when did I say something like: animals or PLANTS are non-living!?
@ninjajesus81 Empirically-verifiable proof is as close as your nearest abortion clinic: send a sample of an aborted fetus to a laboratory and have them test the DNA to see if it’s from a different person or not. You’ll get surprise from the results!
@ninjajesus81 Really?.. well I’m truly sorry Mr. Einstein.. since I’m a broken record of nonsense would you please tell me WHEN does life begins? And EXPLAIN your answer step by step on why you think life begins at “x” moment.
@ninjajesus81 “Life is ill-defined”?? You are telling me that life emerged from the first-replicating molecule (which according to you happened about 3 and ½ billion years ago) and you CAN NOT tell me when does life starts (at the womb) which happens with almost every living thing on planet at all time? And you surely know what happened 3 billion years ago!? Quit trying to take the easy way out by just telling me “is ill-defined”
@anlina07 So I can't repeat scientific facts about history unless I was alive during that time? I wasn't alive during WW2, so am I unable to say when WW2 started?
And how does me being alive at a certain time in history give me more credibility regarding what was happening then?
@ninjajesus81 I'll let other experts answer your silly questions: Ronan O'Rahilly and Fabiola Muller: Although life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed....
Bruce Carlson: Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote). The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual.
@ninjajesus81 To the contrary, they’re very relevant! What happens is that you are ignoring the essence of the quotations because you don’t wanna accept the truth. I didn’t want to waste space in commenting on common sense answers. But since u insist: Cells got their names for their FUNCTIONALITY not just cuz “They split” Greek origin of the word Zygote: to join together, so the name zygote is given because is the union of two gametes. You don’t call metal to your metal spoon, do you?
@ninjajesus81 When I read your following comment I laughed so hard! I seriously thought it was a joke. Why do you know about WW2? Wasn’t it because you studied history? Maybe because someone else, perhaps your teacher, told you about it? It’s a story that runs from one generation to another and then another and so on. Your grandchildren will know about 9/11 because people who lived during 9/11 will give credibility of that event to future generations.
@anlina07 I said something happened 3 and a half billion years ago and you made a joke about me being 3 billion years old. As if I can't know that happened unless I was there.
The WW2 analogy showed that you can use that argument with everything. I can't know what happened during WW2 because I wasn't there?
@ninjajesus81 What you know about WW2 is because millions of people were alive then, there were witnesses .But no one was alive 3 billion years ago, there are no witnesses. Science CANNOT even date rocks, their age is assumed, it is not a proven fact.
@ninjajesus81 Once again: Ronan O'Rahilly and Fabiola Muller: "ALTHOUGH LIFE IS A CONTINUOUS PROCESS, FERTILIZATION IS A CRITICAL LANDMARK BECAUSE, UNDER ORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, A NEW, GENETICALLY DISTINCT HUMAN ORGANISM IS THEREBY FORMED..." A new life begins at fertilization, you began to exist when you were conceived.
@anlina07 "A new genetically distinct human organism" is a far cry from "life begins". Life is not beginning at that point. Life is constant. Saying life begins at that point is saying that the egg and sperm were not living.
@anlina07 "A new, genetically distinct human organism" is a far cry from "life begins". Life is constant. Saying it begins when an egg unites with a sperm is denying that the sperm and egg themselves are living.
@ninjajesus81 When did you you YOU STARTED to be alive? Were you alive in your father’s balls as sperm? And in your mother as an ovum? YOU BEGAN EXISTING AT THE MOMENT YOU WERE CONCEIVED. You have your blood type, your fingerprints, and also your sex was determined at that moment. And obviously ALL LIFE must come from preexisting life. Where would you expect us to come from? From out of nothing?
@anlina07 Your question doesn't have an exact answer. There is no specific time that I came to life. A sperm and egg are my constituent parts. I could say that I was living at that point, I just wasn't put together yet.
And fingerprints aren't determined at conception. That assumes fingerprints are entirely genetic. That would mean identical twins would have the same fingerprints, which they don't.
Life hasn't always existed, so life must have come from non-life.
@ninjajesus81 The worst kind of blind person is the one who refuses to see.. I’VE BEEN GIVING YOU EXACT ANSWERS WITH DETAILS AND SCIENTIFIC SUPPORT! Everything that I’ve told is scientifically supported and proven. On the other hand, the only thing you have done is to type trash: just what you think.
MAY THE CREATOR OF ALL THE UNIVERSE BLESS BELIEVERS!
@ninjajesus81 Whatever man! You were always trying to avoid my comments, and the only thing you did was to tell me that it wasn't true and when I asked you to prove me wrong you never did.
Radiometric dating and photon examinations corroborate to point to a 4.5 billion year old Earth. We have retrovirus DNA on the same spot on our genome as primates. Only evolution can explain that.
@almostskater3210 Do me a favor! See both sides of the coin not just one. Scientists still have problems with radiometric and C14 dating. C14 dates back only 5000 years, no further. So it is not possible for ANYONE to say the earth is 4.5 billion years old when C14 only goes back 5000 years! About the fairytale of evolution? I have countless ways to refute such THEORY but I’ll just leave you with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Go read about it and let me know what conclusion you end up with.
They don't use carbon dating, but many other forms such as potassium-argon dating, which all correspond with each other and can date in the billions. Gravity is also a theory; theories are just as important in science as facts. 2nd law of thermodynamics only applies to a closed system. The sun supplies energy to the Earth, so it is not closed. If we had no external energy source, it would be closed. Stop listening to these blatantly wrong bits of creationist propaganda.
@almostskater3210 Theories are NOT as important as facts! It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Keep reading down)
@ninjajesus81 I repeat: Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Muller: “ALTHOUGH LIFE IS A CONTINUOUS PROCESS, FERTILIZATION IS A CRITICAL LANDMARK BECAUSE, UNDER ORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, A NEW, GENETICALLY DISTINCT HUMAN ORGANISM IS THEREBY FORMED…”A new life begins at fertilization, you began to exist when you were conceived. Go study!!
@ninjajesus81 And since the zygote is the initial phase of prenatal development then we talk about human embryo or fetus... If this is not a human being, so why bothering in having an abortion? According to your reasoning there would be no need of an abortion because there is no baby in there.
@anlina07 A zygote is not a human being, it can turn into one. Just like one of your skin cells is not a human being, but if we use the right manipulation, we could use the DNA inside of it to create a human being. But that's off topic.
When you have an abortion, it won't quite look human, but it is a human being.
@ninjajesus81 Damn it… a zygote is the initial of a human being!! Once you have the zygote what comes right after (like it or not) is the embryo! Do you know what does that means? YES! If you abort, you kill the baby! You are just creating your own truth to supposedly free you from the burden of supporting the killing of defenseless babies. Please do me a favor, after reading this do a research on google, and books on this topic. Open your eyes to the REAL TRUTH.
@anlina07 No, what comes right after a zygote are two cells, then four, then eight, then sixteen. A zygote doesn't just get bigger and grow arms and legs. It's just a cell.
You probably think god magically inserts a soul into it or some insane crap like that, that's the only reason you're so defensive about a cell.
And what's so great about human beings that they deserve to be treated better than other animals?
@ninjajesus81 Oh my God, are you being serious?… You should go check your head to make sure if you actually have a brain in there.. how old are you? 16? Cuz if you’re 16 I’ll understand! I will ask you ONCE again PROVIDE ME FACTS! I DON’T WANNA KNOW, I JUST REALLY DON'T CARE what your faulty brain thinks about this.
What’s so great about human beings? Do I really need to answer that question? Look, if you want to be treated as a cockroach, that’s not my problem, good luck with that!
@anlina07 Facts about what? You want facts without telling me what you want facts for? Ok. My spoon is made out of metal. There is an unopened bottle of water on my desk. My speakers are turned on.
@ninjajesus81 I want you to prove me that what you say are FACTS. Give me facts that just an egg is a potential human being without being fertilized.. I want you to prove me wrong that once you have the zygote or embryo is not already a forming baby.. But I repeat.. please, I don't wanna keep reading about your reasoning.. I want references from science or biology. REFERENCES NOT WHAT YOU THINK.. REFERENCES!
@anlina07 You want proof that an egg is a potential human being without being fertilized? Ok, look up "somatic cell nuclear transfer". That's how cloning is done.
@ninjajesus81 In this process you don’t have the set of chromosomes of the father (so JUST sperm is not a potential human being) and since sperm and egg are cells, separately they aren’t potential H.B. When egg and sperm join the resulting zygote ends up with 2 set of chromosomes. The SCNT already contains 2 complete sets of chromosomes and are placed in the egg (with its single set of chromosomes removed) to form the embryo. I ask you once again, did the egg BY ITSELF grew into an embryo? No!
@ninjajesus81 This process was not through fertilization because there was no sperm fertilizing the egg, it was through science. But, do you really pretend this will ever happen naturally? YOU ASKED why don’t we care about AN EGG (alone) but we do for a zygote. JUST AN EGG doesn’t have the 2 sets of chromosomes needed to become a zygote. MEANING: THE EGG ALONE WONT GROW! ONLY when both sets of chromosomes join (naturally or artificially) a NEW LIFE BEGINS! btw Thanks for bringing up the SCNT ;)
@ninjajesus81 So it’s not a zygote but a cell? (then there would be no need to call it zygote because it is just another cell, right?) But when cell splits is because something will be reproduced or repaired!.. So, what would be reproduced or repaired in the case of a splitting zygote?
@anlina07 So all cells should just be called cells since they're all cells? So we don't need a distinction between a human brain cell and an e-coli bacteria? They're just cells so they're all the same? A zygote splits to reproduce. Obviously you need more than one.
@ninjajesus81 3 prominent experts on Medical Embryology will answer ur ques: Moore, Keith: This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning of a human being.
Jan Langman: The development of a human being begins with fertilization... give rise to a new organism, the zygote
Sadler, T.W:The development of a human begins with fertilization, a process by which the spermatozoon from the m. and the oocyte from the f. unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote
@ninjajesus81 Omg, you never got through kindergarten did you? I'll use the same example I noticed you liked to use: eggs. If the egg has been fertilized, the embryo inside divide several times and together with incubation the embryonic cells differentiate to form a chick. If not fertilized, then the oocyte within will never grow or divide and the egg will never hatch (NOT A POTENTIAL CHICK). Similar principle to that of humans. Grow a brain, study a little more and then comment. Thank you!
@anlina07 The potential is there, since a man could potentially fertilize that egg and that zygote would grow into a human being. But since he chose not to fertilize it, they have damned that potential person to an infinite non-existence. All he had to do was fertilize it and it would grow, become a human, die and go to heaven (that's what you people believe?). But instead, he chose not to, because he's evil and selfish, and now that combination of DNA (what a person is), will never exist.
The argument for abortion falls apart when women who consider it, choose to give birth, and then feel guilty for even considering it in the first place when they look at their child. That is proof enough that pro-choicers are full of shit.
I think that even if a women got raped, or abused by a man she didnt love...the baby deserves a life...the baby is still HERS. The baby can be raised to have a good life and not have to be killed. The baby doesnt have to be raised with their father who is an asshole...matter in fact, you can give the baby up for abortion...but the baby is still yours...its coming from your body and flesh...I WISH ABORTIONS NEVER EXISTED!!
@MordSith1818 I know..and most of the cases are because the girl was stupid on not using protection..she has to face the consequences on raising the baby...but killing the baby is just like killing a human..I find no difference too it.
@CoolnessWendy Forcing a woman to give birth to the seed of her rapist is evil. You should be ashamed of yourself.
And giving a child up for adoption isn't that easy. You think there's a nice family waiting at the hospital with a warm blanket to wrap the seed of a rapist in and take it home?
@ninjajesus81 First of all, is that the only excuse you can come up with? Rape? Most of the times its because the girl was drunk, stupid, or didnt feel like using protection. Oh well, its her responsibilty now. The baby is innocent. And by the way, your username shouldnt have the name JESUS in it, it should say Satan because every baby is god angels.
Your so cold hearted...who knows that baby could of been the new Martin Luther King? or the new president?
@CoolnessWendy There's lots of reasons to have an abortion, not just rape. But rape is the one that can't be defended. I don't care what you say, if you want to force people to have their rapists child, you're evil. You lose right then and there.
And it's a good thing this discussion is just hypothetical, since abortion is legal across the board. It doesn't matter what reason you have, you can get an abortion. The reason should never even be discussed.
@CoolnessWendy I know you're not ashamed, that's why I said you should be. I bet you wouldn't have the audacity to tell a woman who's just been raped that she should keep the baby, lest she be a murderer. If you would, then you're disgusting.
@ninjajesus81 I wouldnt say it like that IDIOT, my advice to her would to be to keep the baby, and I am never gonna be ashamed about myself cause I know I'm doing the right thing!!!! =)))))
@CoolnessWendy And giving her that "advice" is insensitive and selfish. You're more worried about your own self-righteous beliefs than someone else's feelings. You should be ashamed for that.
@CoolnessWendy You're trying to tell people what to do because it's what YOU believe. That's selfish. You're pushing your beliefs on others. I'm not. I'm saying people should do what they want. How is that selfish?
@nluvwithlayne07 ok so you're saying abortion is sometimes okay and that rape is cool? you should be ashamed of yourself. i'm glad my son is dead and will never have to meet people like you
@pabstbluehipster rape is nowhere near cool. Thats why i'm saying you should have been aborted. Either your mom wasn't smart enough to use protection, or your dad missed her asshole and made you instead. Since you were supposedly able to tell the sex, you commited an illegal abortion, and you will rot in hell, regardless of how far along you were. So YOU should be ashamed of yourself. I'm glad your baby is dead too, so it doesn't have a low life piece of shit as a mother.
@nluvwithlayne07 LOL good thing hell doesn't exist right?? you're glad i aborted my child? what is wrong with you? some anti-abortionist you are... I'm glad he is dead and you know what? i wish you were dead too.
@pabstbluehipster Try not being a whore, and use protection. The world would have been a lot better off if your mom would have just sucked your dad off, and swallowed you.
we don't like to kill our unborn, we need them to grow up and fight our wars, if you are really pro-life then why are most pro-lifers republican who believe that if you can't afford to have that life saving surgery, then you should not get it and die, the same people who believe that guns are good thing, when their sole purpose is to kill, i have had it with all the double standers, if you are really "pro life" then why don't you try protesting at funerals?
@markjohnston781 There is a difference, but you are too stupid to see it. With abortion you are killing a baby who has done nothing wrong. With a gun (for defense) you are killing a criminal who can make his own decisions, and his decision was to harm an innocent person. Liberals are the ones who don't want to punish criminals. Oh, and fighting in a war is a persons choice. The government is not forcing them to do it.
@PeacefulLivin I completely understand that there are couples that want the child but for some girls its still 9 months of hell literally carrying the burden of a rape or a huge mistake on there shoulders, im not just making this shit up i do know from first hand experience. though i do under stand what your saying
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"It is only if human life is respected from conception to death that the ethics of peace is also possible and credible," concluded the Pope. "It is only then that non-violence can express itself in every direction; only then that we truly welcome creation, and only then that we can arrive at true justice." Pope Benedict XVI
teton99 4 days ago
If I was a girl, I would get pregnant as many times as possible, then have abortions after the third month of being pregnant so I would deliver a potato sized 1/3 developed dead fetus. Then, I would take the fetus, put it in a jar of preservative fluid and put it on a shelf in a secret room in my house, and I would do it until I had so many that the rooms walls were nothing but potato sized aborted fetuses. Then, I would have a kid and when they were bad I would make them sit in the room.
ZanderWesli 1 week ago
@ZanderWesli I do hope you're joking
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
people should really try to vote pro-life. if your voting for a president thats not willing to defend one of the most innocent human beings who are they going to defend?
TheSwinsons 2 weeks ago
Abortion should be before 3 or 2 months.
whatisreal12345 2 weeks ago
@whatisreal12345 abortion should be never. in biology it says that a baby is alive AT conception.
TheSwinsons 2 weeks ago
How stupid a clump of cells!? I had a early ultrasound at 2 months and my clump of cells had a strong heart beat at the months I had another ultrasound and baby was fully formed so no its not a clump of cells its a little baby if girls don't want to get pregnant close your freaking legs!! Simple as that!! Birth control!! Condoms or just plain and simple get your tubes tied.
martina2247 2 weeks ago
lol
AndroFiend 3 weeks ago
why have you used pictures of babies? a fetus is not a baby. Personally i dont think anyone has the right to tell me what i can and cant do with my own body. Pregnancy is a massive strain on the female body can cause serious health problems. The message your sending out is women shouldn't be able to control what happens to their own bodies because of a clump of cells not even aware its alive. Consideration of the woman should be paramount.
vaseline162 3 weeks ago
@vaseline162 But the fetus also has rights, conciousness is irrelevant to humanity and the righ over your body doesn`t give you the right to kill.
reviewreviewer1 2 weeks ago
@vaseline162 Close the legs, there that solves that problem
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
We hit the 7 billion mark...nuff said.
animecatgirlroxs 3 weeks ago
Man, I saw a lot of pictures of babies in this videos. Babies are sentinent, autonomous beings, which therefore can not be aborted.
dancer8164 4 weeks ago
If a womans not ready for a child, she should use birth control NOT get an abortion.
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@aprildcarreon Birth control is not perfect. Many women who get abortions used some form of contraception. Please get educated before posting such a comment.
dancer8164 4 weeks ago
there is far too much value put on human life.
TheCynicalPessimist 1 month ago
Why i only saw white babies? White babies are not prettier than any other race, so be realistic!
936justme 1 month ago
You sir, are a bellend. Who are you to tell women what to do with their wombs? You're a holier-than-thou douchebag.
georgearkeeble 1 month ago
LOOL IF U DONT WANT A FUCKING KID U SHOULD BE ABLE TO RIP THAT BITCH OUT
luv3z2p00p 1 month ago
@luv3z2p00p wow
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
Ok, seriously, I had to make the comment and I usually don't even respond to youtube videos but um...
YOU DONT ABORT FULL-TERM BABIES. YOU ABORT DURING THE FIRST TRIMESTER meaning um... 85% of your video was live BABIES that have already been born. If your going to make a video about abortions, how about actually using pictures of "babies" as a fetus in it's first trimester. Kthx...
TeraGurl2003 1 month ago
i wanted to cry
candycornx33 1 month ago
amazing video <3 i love it
candycornx33 1 month ago
Almoststaker
raymondoe1997 1 month ago
Anlina, you simply don't understand the FORmation of the universe because it's a P2C2E,(for a couple of decades, maybe) and you would get a lot better idea if you watched a bit more NOVA(there was a good segment they did on the big bang and string theory recently). Plz, just listen to...
raymondoe1997 1 month ago
Shame on all you who liked this video.
crzysteve159 2 months ago
If sunlight abrogated the second law, scientists could not have discovered the law. Heat energy flowing into our world increases entropy! Oxidation increases, chemical actions speeds up, and other patterns of degeneration quicken. Harold F. Blum, a biochemist, wrote an entire book on this law. He mantains that this law does apply to our world and everything in it. Consider a human body & all what we do to maintain it, yet all the while it keeps weakening and eventually we all die.
anlina07 3 months ago
@anlina07
(cont)
Yes chemical reactions speed up, which release heat and back to entropy... The second law favors the spontaneous formation of increasingly complex geometrically ordered molecules, which gain order as individual systems but end in a net decrease in order. People are wrong when they talk about complete disorder because they fail to understand that chemistry, the study of all matter, deals with millions of compounds with less energy than the compounds they form.
almostskater3210 3 months ago
@anlina07
(cont) In summary, "Energetically, the second law of thermodynamics favors the formation of the majority of all known complex and ordered chemical compounds directly from their simpler elements. Thus, contrary to popular opinion, the second law does not dictate the decrease of ordered structure by its predictions. It only demands a "spreading out" of energy when such ordered compounds are formed spontaneously."
almostskater3210 3 months ago
@anlina07
(cont) And we die because we have lifespan timing devices called telomeres. There are genes for age.
almostskater3210 3 months ago
Major problems of Uranium-lead: Lead could originally have been mixed in with the uranium of thorium. Part of the uranium and its daughter products could previously have leached out. There can be inaccurate lead ratio comparisons, due to different types of lead within the sample. Radiogenic lead isotope 207 could actually have been formed from lead 206, simply by having captured free neutrons from other rocks. Molten rocks would produce a wild variation in clock settings.
anlina07 3 months ago
Geologist G.W. Wetherill admits "the two principal problems have been the uncertainties in the radioactive decay constants of potassium and in the ability of minerals to retain the argon produced by this decay." Paleoanthropologist Alberto Angela, also made the following statement when a potassium-argon date for an artifact did not support his previously held notion: "Of course, there may be uncertainties about the dating and interpretation of fossils (and, in fact, there are divergences)".
anlina07 3 months ago
@anlina07
The uranium-lead system in its simpler forms, using U-238, U-235, and thorium-232, has proved to be less reliable than many of the other dating systems. This is because both uranium and lead are less easily retained in many of the minerals in which they are found. Yet the fact that there are three dating systems all in one allows scientists to easily determine whether the system has been disturbed or not.
almostskater3210 3 months ago
@anlina07
Using slightly more complicated mathematics, different combinations of the lead isotopes and parent isotopes can be plotted in such a way as to minimize the effects of lead loss. One of these techniques is called the lead-lead technique because it determines the ages from the lead isotopes alone." I wouldn't recommend just copying and pasting stuff from creationists sites. They usually tell half-truths, such as in this situation. Besides, those quotes mean nothing without evidence.
almostskater3210 3 months ago
Potassium occurs widely in fossil-bearing strata, & cuz of such wide dating variations there is no agreement on its halflife Argon quickly leaves the mineral and escape into other rocks and atmosphere So argon migrate in and out potassium rocks altering the dating Rain moves potassium from one location to another & it must be calculated by uranium-lead which is extremely unreliable The potassium-argon dated rocks (that were less than 200 years) to ages ranging 1.60 million to 2.96 billion years
anlina07 3 months ago
@anlina07
(cont) explanations. They are logical constructs of facts, tested hypotheses, laws, etc put together to explain a phenomenon. I'm not saying I'd rather lose all facts than theories. I'm saying science is built on theories. Can you cite that information about radiometric dating? Thanks. But I hope you understand that even though radiometric dating is obviously not 100% accurate, to be off by what you claim, that would be like saying NYC is 50m away from SF. Uranium-lead is the most
almostskater3210 3 months ago
@anlina07
(cont) reliable when done right. How is it unreliable? Please extrapolate on your points or I will not be able to counter them. The flaw in potassium argon dating is exaggerated, lied about and insignificant as explained here: ww w(dot) answersincreation (dot) or g (forward slash) blind (dot) h tm. "Dalrymple found that they are reliable. Two-thirds of the time there is no excess argon at all. And in 25 times out of 26 tests there is no excess argon or there is so little excess argon
almostskater3210 3 months ago
@almostskater3210 Such theory has no FOUNDATION. Evolutionists go ahead and pile on top of it layer after layer of speculations, names, and dates. You love to say that the universe has many billions of years old, but you dont dare to discuss the fact that gas in outer space cant possibly form itself into stars, or that something moving in straight line cant by itself change directions or begin circling. Intelligence common sense and reasoning tells me evolution is a fairy tale (keep read. down)
anlina07 3 months ago
@anlina07
You do know that there are several forces like gravity, electromagnetism etc that dictate how things arise. Think about it, according to us, the beginning of the universe (most popular theory is the big bang)would be when matter begins to conform to a set of laws in place... but wait this is sidetracking way too much. We're not arguing God here; we are arguing evolution. God could have started the world 14billion years ago for all I know. What about stalactites/stalagmites. They take
almostskater3210 3 months ago
@anlina07
100,000s of years to form based on a chemical reaction with a chemical in limestone and water. (Hint: don't bring up the Lincoln Memorial. Concrete isn't limestone, another reaction takes place). What about endogenous retroviruses. We have the same virus DNA at the same point in our genome as chimpanzees. That is inexplicable for creationists. Also
almostskater3210 3 months ago
@anlina07
Last thing for you to counter: ww w(com) evolutionpages(dot) com(forward slash)chromosome_2 (dot) htm
almostskater3210 3 months ago
@anlina07 (cont) that it will make only a tiny error, if any, in the final date for rocks millions of years old. Thus Dalrymple’s data is not consistent with a young Earth whatsoever. Indeed, if Dalrymple’s data is representative, 3 times out of 26 the K-Ar method will give a too young date." Your'e right about forming hypotheses based on observations, which is exactly how evolution was theorized, unlike creationism. You match evidence to fit what the Bible says.
almostskater3210 3 months ago
An abandoned house in the middle of a huge open space -in a desert for example– is a closed system even though it is located in the middle of 100 square miles. Leave that house alone and in time it will deteriorate, it will become “totally” disorganized. That will happen to the Solar System, right? The Sun will deteriorate, and the system with it, correct? Systems are of different sizes and mater... I find your point quite irrelevant!
anlina07 3 months ago
@anlina07
uhh. A closed system is a system that does not get energy, only loses it. Sorry but the sun supplies us with energy. Doesn't matter if you think the universe is closed system or not, because bodies can supply each other with energy, even if the net energy change is negative. When scientists talk about facts, they're talking about confirmed observations. Facts are a dime in a dozen. By themselves they don't do much for you. Theories are the most important things in science. They are
almostskater3210 3 months ago
Wanna know something interesting? The lady who made abortion legal is now a Christian and trying to make abortion illegal again.
MissClavelle 3 months ago
ABORTION IS DISGUSTING. ABORTION IS WRONG. ABORTION IS MURDER. ABORTION SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.
28804ecorrell 4 months ago
@28804ecorrell <---------- Does anyone know, what he trying to say.!!!
Skaramoosh5 3 months ago
ITS HER BODY IF SHE ISNT READY FOR A CHILD ITS HER BUINSESS SHE DOESNT HAVE TO KEEP IT ITS NOT EVEN A BABY YET ITS A FETUS!!!!!
(There is nothing wrong with abortions its not like they will remember anythings its nothing) >:(
international4life1 4 months ago
@international4life1 you can put it up for adoption! or just don't have sex and no worries
amberax7 2 months ago
"EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTED SLAVERY WAS FREE
EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS ABORTION WAS BORN
THAT'S HOW OPPRESSION WORKS"
"They are not people"--We've heard that before!
anlina07 4 months ago
"EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTED SLAVERY WAS FREE
EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS ABORTION WAS BORN
THAT'S HOW OPPRESSION WORKS"
anlina07 4 months ago
I bet that if people do that to pregnant dogs, to go to a vet and take the puppies out of her womb, “because YOU are not prepare to have puppies”.. many of you will be accusing them of barbarians, of murderers, of I don’t know what else. You have your priorities messed up!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 You asked a question, assumed the answer, then concluded we have our priorities messed up based on the answer you gave to the question you asked us.
Terminating a dog's pregnancy at the early stage of dog development is not a problem at all. What's wrong with it? If you can't afford to take care of puppies, then should they just have the puppies anyway? Do you know how many dogs get gassed every day because their owners couldn't afford to take care of them? Wake up to reality.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Haven't you heard there are actually countless number of people against gassing dogs? The point is I was trying to explain to you that YOU people (sorry, YOU cancer of the earth) have your priorities really messed up.. If we are sooo overpopulated, then why on earth all demographic data and figures point the contrary?? All the problems we see rest mainly on politics. Perhaps next time let your monkey answer my comments, pretty sure he will do better than you.
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 I don't think dogs should be gassed, I think they should be transported out into the wild if we don't want to spend money taking care of them. What demographic data point to the contrary? Demographic data wouldn't tell you about the effects of overpopulation, you don't know what you're talking about.
And now you're going on about some conspiracy with the UN. Just stop.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
For those selfish women that want to have a perfect life where only them matters.. STOP acting like prostitutes and begin acting responsibly.. If you have sex there is a 99.9% probability you will get pregnant. SO DON’T DO IT if you wont take care of the child! The same shit happens when you have a dog and don`t want it to have puppies. You keep it locked in your house or you castrated it.. as simple as that! So stop acting like animals.. you animals!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 So if a couple doesn't want to have children, they should never have sex for their entire life? That's realistic.
I think you're just jealous of them because no one wants to have sex with you.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 You clearly degenerate yourself to the very bottom. You think sex is all in a relationship? If you are really a person you should know that LOVE is something completely different from sex. If you don’t want to have children you shouldn’t have sex. Also let me tell you that I am not jealous at all! PLEASE! I'm sure I'm way prettier and smarter than you! I’m happily committed, I'll get marry soon, I’ll have a family and I’ll be proud of myself that I wasn't a sex doll like perhaps u
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 I don't think sex is very important in a relationship at all, but people have a desire for sex and they should be able to fulfill that desire with someone they love.
I don't think you're smarter than me and I'm a guy so I don't think I could be referred to as pretty. And I've never had sex either, I'm just aware of reality and I support freedom.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 I apologize for having thought you were a girl… Freedom is a very delicate concept, so be careful. If you don't use freedom wisely you can lose it.
anlina07 4 months ago
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serenitykemeia 4 months ago
Dear Loving Jesus, Do forgive your children who believe abortion is right. They do not know how horrible it is. They don't know unhuman it is. They don't know that it is murder. They don't know that these children are the gifts of the future that you sent to us. Thank you.
Love,
all who are pro life
Lucricia228 4 months ago 2
@Lucricia228 Abortion is no more horrible than for a woman not to get pregnant every time she ovulates. If she ovulates and she doesn't get that egg fertilized, it goes to waste. That potential human being will never exist and that woman let it happen. Do you think that's reasonable?
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 umm why do you think there are many eggs? no all of them will get fertilized and no it doesn't go to waste it served its perpose. Abortion is a lot more worse then a egg no getting fertilized. i think killing a baby is way worse then the uterus thinks it is time to get pregnant because there is company and letting a egg go.
Lucricia228 4 months ago
@Lucricia228 It's the same thing, abortions just happen later. Every egg that doesn't get fertilized is a potential human being being put into non-existence. That person will never exist because of someone's selfish decision not to fertilize it.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 no you don't get it, when a sperm fertilizes an egg in stasrts to become a baby, an egg needs the sperm so it does't matter if it doesn't get fertilized. a person exists after fertilization. there is no selfish decsion of not getting a egg fertilized. so what you are saying is that a 12 year old girl who is starting her period should have sex before the egg dies? abortion is way worse because it is murder and eggs not gettin fertilized doesn't mean anything.
Lucricia228 4 months ago
@Lucricia228 It does mater if the egg doesn't get fertilized. Had it got fertilized, that person could exist. But now that person will never exist because it wasn't fertilized. Why are you making this so difficult?
Abortion is way worse because why? Because you're killing something that's not aware of itself? No, abortion and not fertilizing an egg is the same thing. One was made and died and the other was never made at all. That person is lost forever. How can that mean nothing?
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 if they are the same then why does a baby bleed when killed and a egg doesn't? in abortion they crush the baby's head and body parts, burn it with acid, take it out of the uterus and chop it up while it is still living, throw still alive aborted babies in the trash to suffer to death slowly, and other horrible things. when the egg enters the uterus it disappears. no god puts the person's soul into the fertilized egg after joining with the sperm. so acutly you are wrong.
Lucricia228 4 months ago
@Lucricia228 Your stupidity is vast. Why does a baby bleed when killed? Because it has blood in it. What does that matter? Things can die without bleeding.
In abortions they do none of the things you say they do. You're either a liar, or you believed a lie. And it's insulting that you actually expected me to believe that.
There is no god and there is no soul, so don't start talking about fairy tales with me. And you need to grow up if you actually believe all that crap.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 why are you making this so difficult? a woman has many eggs that she can spare. a baby is as much aware of itself as much as you are of yourself and me and anyone else.
Lucricia228 4 months ago
@Lucricia228 A fetus is not aware.
So it's not bad that an egg is wasted because there are a lot of them? Then why do you care about a fetus? There's 7 billion people in the world. We can spare a few million. There's way too many people as it is, we don't need more. Stop trying to overpopulate the planet.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 a baby is aware because it has a brain.
i'm not trying to over populated the earth, anyways many people die everyday. just because we have so many people doesn't mean that we have to kill babies. I care about a baby because i want him or her to live their life instead of it being wasted. yes there are other eggs that can be fertilized.
Lucricia228 4 months ago
@Lucricia228 Just because a baby has a brain doesn't make it aware. Babies don't even start forming memories until a certain age.
The world population is growing exponentially. That means people are making too many babies. And too many people can become a crisis, not just some inconvenience. It can actually become a threat to the lives of other people.
A baby being wasted is the same as a sperm and an egg being wasted. It's just a DNA combination.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Overpopulated your brain of something called “shit”… The world is not overpopulated, that’s what many governments wants you to believe in so they can take advantage of that and make you its puppets. You could move the entire world population inside medium-sized homes and they’d all fit inside Texas, yielding a population density similar to that of Paris. There is plenty of land left folks! What we don't have is many smart people. So sad
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 You think so naively. You think the only problem we would encounter with overpopulation is running out of land? Really?
There's plenty of land left? Cool, let's just turn all that land into residential, which means we need more industrial and commercial land. Great. Let's cover the Earth with concrete. We need more cars and more pollution. Who needs trees? And fuck all the other animals that need land, because there's "plenty of land left folks" for us to take.
You're an idiot.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Eisenstein said it "human stupidity has no limit” If there is such overpopulation then why don’t you be the first one to volunteer to kill yourself! for the sake of Mother Earth of course. It is not unborn babies fault that you feel like a cancer to earth and also guilty for you being born. Don't you get the UN is behind all of this? so we give up land ownership and hand it over to the them! All problems, like starvation, is a political disaster, not a natural one. Go Study!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 Kill myself? I don't advocate killing adults, unless they deserve it. I advocate people being free to make the decision to have an abortion if they want to or need to.
If you care so much about unborn babies, why don't you care about a woman's egg going to waste? That's an unborn potential baby. That's a DNA combination of a human that will never exist, and you don't give a shit about that. You only care about the ones that happened to get fertilized. You're inconsistent.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Inconsistent? Me? Life begins when there is a union of an oocyte and a sperm, this marks the beginning of a unique human being. Just a woman’s egg has nothing to do with a potential human being UNLESS there is a zygote already involved (occyte+sperm=zygote). Do you believe that JUST an egg is a potential human being? So are u saying an egg will suddenly grow arms, legs, and become a person?? Give me a break! An egg is just an egg (nothing more), a fertilized egg involves life.
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 No, life does not begin when an egg is fertilized. Sperm and egg cells are living, so they don't just suddenly spring into life when they're united.
The egg itself doesn't turn into a human being, growing arms and legs, but neither does a zygote. That zygote has to split billions of times. One zygote is not a human being, just like you're not just a skin cell.
What I'm saying is that egg had the DNA of a potential, unique, someone, if it was fertilized.
That person will never exist.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 I don`t wanna listen to what YOU BELIEVE an egg is or not, or what a zygote is or not. Prove me wrong with FACTS! And what does egg DNA matters in all of this? An egg DNA contains the mother’s DNA, a sperm contains the father’s DNA, saliva contains DNA, poop contains DNA (reasoning like u then saliva and poop contains potentiality to bring a human being?) I can prove you a zygote is already a person in formation. A zygote or fertilized egg initiate the prenatal development. STUDY
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 Your logic makes no sense. You're saying if you have an egg in one hand and a sperm in another, you can kill them and it's nothing. But if you put them together and you kill it, then that's murder? That's absurd. You're being deliberately stubborn now.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Sorry to tell you that it’s not just MY logic dude! I’m basing all what I’ve told you on scientific FACTS, on biological FACTS, on genetic FACTS. On the other hand you are the one who have a funny logic, you just say what you wanna say. Your words are like dust in the wind.. they get lost! I’m still waiting for you TO PROVE ME WRONG with facts! I don’t wanna know what you think… SHOW ME FACTS!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 What facts are you speaking of? That a sperm and egg uniting is a zygote? I know it is. It's not a human being, it's just one cell of a future human being.
What I'm arguing is your phoney defense of a zygote. Like I said, if a sperm and egg are separated, that means nothing to you, they can be destroyed like any piece of garbage and it doesn't matter. But once you put the sperm inside the egg, then suddenly destroying it is tantamount to murder, even though basically nothing changed.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Let’s see if by giving you this example at least your shitty head works a little. Lets suppose the following: let’s change concepts with numbers, where sperm=1, egg=1, baby=2. If you have just #1 (egg) THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY #1 IS equal to #2. YOU NEED BOTH 1 TO GET THE RESULT OF #2. Can you even sum? 1+1=2
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 Oh sorry.. for you 1+1=1 very clever!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 If you have 1 sperm and 1 egg, that's 1+1=2. If you kill them individually, you're still killing 2. But you don't care about that because your argument is inconsistent.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Why is it so hard for you to get something so simple!!?
"The term embryo applies to the earliest form of life, produced when an egg (female reproductive cell) is fertilized by a sperm (male reproductive cell; semen). The fertilized egg is called a zygote. Shortly after fertilization, the zygote begins to grow and develop." (scienceclarified*com)
Doesn't say when JUST an egg begins to grow, or JUST a sperm begins to develop.
Don't have both 1, there is no way to have a 2! 1+1=2
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 You don't even know what I'm saying. Your grasp of English isn't very good. I'm explaining this clearly, yet you still manage to not understand the point I'm trying to make.
A zygote is an egg and a sperm. If they're together, they're called a zygote, and you consider it a human being. If you go back in time 10 seconds, when they're apart, then they're not a human being and they can be destroyed and it's no big deal. So 10 seconds is the difference between murder and not murder?
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Exactly! Finally! From fertilization, the being is highly organized, has the ability to acquire materials and energy, has the ability to respond to his or her environment, has the ability to adapt, and has the ability to reproduce (the cells divide, then divide again, etc., and barring pathology and pending reproductive maturity has the potential to reproduce other members of the species). Non-living things do not do these things.
Prove me wrong, I dare you!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 What did I say was non-living? You're constructing strawmans, moving goal posts. Look up what those phrases mean if you don't already know.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 "what did I say was non-living?" A: Since you say it is not a person! (I was referring to Human life if you didn't get me before)
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 Oh, so only people are living? Apparently my cat is undead or something, cause it's not living. You're in dire need of a biology course.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Just out of curiosity, are your parents’ siblings?... I was specifying on humans!! Because we are arguing on human life here… Remind me again when did I say something like: animals or PLANTS are non-living!?
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 You were not specifying humans because you said "Non-living things do not do these things."
So by "non-living" you mean "non-human"? Because non-human animals do everything you listed.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Whatever man… don’t make a fool of yourself.. I know you did get my point.
anlina07 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Empirically-verifiable proof is as close as your nearest abortion clinic: send a sample of an aborted fetus to a laboratory and have them test the DNA to see if it’s from a different person or not. You’ll get surprise from the results!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 Proof of what? You're a broken record of nonsense.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Really?.. well I’m truly sorry Mr. Einstein.. since I’m a broken record of nonsense would you please tell me WHEN does life begins? And EXPLAIN your answer step by step on why you think life begins at “x” moment.
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 When does life begin? It began about 3 and a half billion years ago. It began with the first self-replicating molecule.
But "life" is ill-defined.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 “Life is ill-defined”?? You are telling me that life emerged from the first-replicating molecule (which according to you happened about 3 and ½ billion years ago) and you CAN NOT tell me when does life starts (at the womb) which happens with almost every living thing on planet at all time? And you surely know what happened 3 billion years ago!? Quit trying to take the easy way out by just telling me “is ill-defined”
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 Life doesn't start at the womb. Life has been continuous for the past 3 and a half billion years.
You want me to say that life starts in the womb? That implies the matter that creates the life is not living itself, but non-living.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 So you are 3 billion years old!... .. Now that’s something new in history! You should call Ripley’s believe it or not!
Seriously man! When was your birthday?
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 So I can't repeat scientific facts about history unless I was alive during that time? I wasn't alive during WW2, so am I unable to say when WW2 started?
And how does me being alive at a certain time in history give me more credibility regarding what was happening then?
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 I'll let other experts answer your silly questions: Ronan O'Rahilly and Fabiola Muller: Although life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed....
Bruce Carlson: Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote). The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual.
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 What the hell are you talking about? You're quoting things that are completely irrelevant to what I just said.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 To the contrary, they’re very relevant! What happens is that you are ignoring the essence of the quotations because you don’t wanna accept the truth. I didn’t want to waste space in commenting on common sense answers. But since u insist: Cells got their names for their FUNCTIONALITY not just cuz “They split” Greek origin of the word Zygote: to join together, so the name zygote is given because is the union of two gametes. You don’t call metal to your metal spoon, do you?
anlina07 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 When I read your following comment I laughed so hard! I seriously thought it was a joke. Why do you know about WW2? Wasn’t it because you studied history? Maybe because someone else, perhaps your teacher, told you about it? It’s a story that runs from one generation to another and then another and so on. Your grandchildren will know about 9/11 because people who lived during 9/11 will give credibility of that event to future generations.
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 I said something happened 3 and a half billion years ago and you made a joke about me being 3 billion years old. As if I can't know that happened unless I was there.
The WW2 analogy showed that you can use that argument with everything. I can't know what happened during WW2 because I wasn't there?
What are you even arguing?
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 What you know about WW2 is because millions of people were alive then, there were witnesses .But no one was alive 3 billion years ago, there are no witnesses. Science CANNOT even date rocks, their age is assumed, it is not a proven fact.
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 Science can date rocks. Scientists don't assume anything. Radiometric dating is accurate.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Once again: Ronan O'Rahilly and Fabiola Muller: "ALTHOUGH LIFE IS A CONTINUOUS PROCESS, FERTILIZATION IS A CRITICAL LANDMARK BECAUSE, UNDER ORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, A NEW, GENETICALLY DISTINCT HUMAN ORGANISM IS THEREBY FORMED..." A new life begins at fertilization, you began to exist when you were conceived.
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 "A new genetically distinct human organism" is a far cry from "life begins". Life is not beginning at that point. Life is constant. Saying life begins at that point is saying that the egg and sperm were not living.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@anlina07 "A new, genetically distinct human organism" is a far cry from "life begins". Life is constant. Saying it begins when an egg unites with a sperm is denying that the sperm and egg themselves are living.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 When did you you YOU STARTED to be alive? Were you alive in your father’s balls as sperm? And in your mother as an ovum? YOU BEGAN EXISTING AT THE MOMENT YOU WERE CONCEIVED. You have your blood type, your fingerprints, and also your sex was determined at that moment. And obviously ALL LIFE must come from preexisting life. Where would you expect us to come from? From out of nothing?
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 Your question doesn't have an exact answer. There is no specific time that I came to life. A sperm and egg are my constituent parts. I could say that I was living at that point, I just wasn't put together yet.
And fingerprints aren't determined at conception. That assumes fingerprints are entirely genetic. That would mean identical twins would have the same fingerprints, which they don't.
Life hasn't always existed, so life must have come from non-life.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 The worst kind of blind person is the one who refuses to see.. I’VE BEEN GIVING YOU EXACT ANSWERS WITH DETAILS AND SCIENTIFIC SUPPORT! Everything that I’ve told is scientifically supported and proven. On the other hand, the only thing you have done is to type trash: just what you think.
MAY THE CREATOR OF ALL THE UNIVERSE BLESS BELIEVERS!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 And yet again, another post by you that has nothing to do with the post you're responding to.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Whatever man! You were always trying to avoid my comments, and the only thing you did was to tell me that it wasn't true and when I asked you to prove me wrong you never did.
Checkmate!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 You said a zygote grows into a baby. It does not. You're wrong. I don't know how many more ways I can tell you that.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@anlina07
Radiometric dating and photon examinations corroborate to point to a 4.5 billion year old Earth. We have retrovirus DNA on the same spot on our genome as primates. Only evolution can explain that.
almostskater3210 3 months ago
@almostskater3210 Do me a favor! See both sides of the coin not just one. Scientists still have problems with radiometric and C14 dating. C14 dates back only 5000 years, no further. So it is not possible for ANYONE to say the earth is 4.5 billion years old when C14 only goes back 5000 years! About the fairytale of evolution? I have countless ways to refute such THEORY but I’ll just leave you with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Go read about it and let me know what conclusion you end up with.
anlina07 3 months ago
@anlina07
They don't use carbon dating, but many other forms such as potassium-argon dating, which all correspond with each other and can date in the billions. Gravity is also a theory; theories are just as important in science as facts. 2nd law of thermodynamics only applies to a closed system. The sun supplies energy to the Earth, so it is not closed. If we had no external energy source, it would be closed. Stop listening to these blatantly wrong bits of creationist propaganda.
almostskater3210 3 months ago
@almostskater3210 Theories are NOT as important as facts! It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Keep reading down)
anlina07 3 months ago
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@ninjajesus81 I repeat: Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Muller: “ALTHOUGH LIFE IS A CONTINUOUS PROCESS, FERTILIZATION IS A CRITICAL LANDMARK BECAUSE, UNDER ORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, A NEW, GENETICALLY DISTINCT HUMAN ORGANISM IS THEREBY FORMED…”A new life begins at fertilization, you began to exist when you were conceived. Go study!!
anlina07 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 And since the zygote is the initial phase of prenatal development then we talk about human embryo or fetus... If this is not a human being, so why bothering in having an abortion? According to your reasoning there would be no need of an abortion because there is no baby in there.
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 A zygote is not a human being, it can turn into one. Just like one of your skin cells is not a human being, but if we use the right manipulation, we could use the DNA inside of it to create a human being. But that's off topic.
When you have an abortion, it won't quite look human, but it is a human being.
I don't know what reasoning you think I'm using.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Damn it… a zygote is the initial of a human being!! Once you have the zygote what comes right after (like it or not) is the embryo! Do you know what does that means? YES! If you abort, you kill the baby! You are just creating your own truth to supposedly free you from the burden of supporting the killing of defenseless babies. Please do me a favor, after reading this do a research on google, and books on this topic. Open your eyes to the REAL TRUTH.
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 No, what comes right after a zygote are two cells, then four, then eight, then sixteen. A zygote doesn't just get bigger and grow arms and legs. It's just a cell.
You probably think god magically inserts a soul into it or some insane crap like that, that's the only reason you're so defensive about a cell.
And what's so great about human beings that they deserve to be treated better than other animals?
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Oh my God, are you being serious?… You should go check your head to make sure if you actually have a brain in there.. how old are you? 16? Cuz if you’re 16 I’ll understand! I will ask you ONCE again PROVIDE ME FACTS! I DON’T WANNA KNOW, I JUST REALLY DON'T CARE what your faulty brain thinks about this.
What’s so great about human beings? Do I really need to answer that question? Look, if you want to be treated as a cockroach, that’s not my problem, good luck with that!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 Facts about what? You want facts without telling me what you want facts for? Ok. My spoon is made out of metal. There is an unopened bottle of water on my desk. My speakers are turned on.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 I want you to prove me that what you say are FACTS. Give me facts that just an egg is a potential human being without being fertilized.. I want you to prove me wrong that once you have the zygote or embryo is not already a forming baby.. But I repeat.. please, I don't wanna keep reading about your reasoning.. I want references from science or biology. REFERENCES NOT WHAT YOU THINK.. REFERENCES!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 You want proof that an egg is a potential human being without being fertilized? Ok, look up "somatic cell nuclear transfer". That's how cloning is done.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 In this process you don’t have the set of chromosomes of the father (so JUST sperm is not a potential human being) and since sperm and egg are cells, separately they aren’t potential H.B. When egg and sperm join the resulting zygote ends up with 2 set of chromosomes. The SCNT already contains 2 complete sets of chromosomes and are placed in the egg (with its single set of chromosomes removed) to form the embryo. I ask you once again, did the egg BY ITSELF grew into an embryo? No!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 The egg was not fertilized and yet can grow into an embryo.
Now you're moving the goalposts.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 This process was not through fertilization because there was no sperm fertilizing the egg, it was through science. But, do you really pretend this will ever happen naturally? YOU ASKED why don’t we care about AN EGG (alone) but we do for a zygote. JUST AN EGG doesn’t have the 2 sets of chromosomes needed to become a zygote. MEANING: THE EGG ALONE WONT GROW! ONLY when both sets of chromosomes join (naturally or artificially) a NEW LIFE BEGINS! btw Thanks for bringing up the SCNT ;)
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 Zygotes don't grow either.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 So if zygotes don’t grow… Then, what are zygotes for? What is their functionality? They just stay as zygotes?
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 They split like all cells.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 So it’s not a zygote but a cell? (then there would be no need to call it zygote because it is just another cell, right?) But when cell splits is because something will be reproduced or repaired!.. So, what would be reproduced or repaired in the case of a splitting zygote?
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 So all cells should just be called cells since they're all cells? So we don't need a distinction between a human brain cell and an e-coli bacteria? They're just cells so they're all the same? A zygote splits to reproduce. Obviously you need more than one.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 3 prominent experts on Medical Embryology will answer ur ques: Moore, Keith: This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning of a human being.
Jan Langman: The development of a human being begins with fertilization... give rise to a new organism, the zygote
Sadler, T.W:The development of a human begins with fertilization, a process by which the spermatozoon from the m. and the oocyte from the f. unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote
anlina07 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Syllogism (Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer)
*Potential LIFE begins only when a complete set of chromosomes pairs forms. (SCNT contains the complete set of chromosome pairs).
*Egg’s single set of chromosomes were not even necessary (were removed).
*Therefore, egg alone has no potentiality to bring life.
(And just for the record, this is not even a natural process but a human intervention)
anlina07 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Omg, you never got through kindergarten did you? I'll use the same example I noticed you liked to use: eggs. If the egg has been fertilized, the embryo inside divide several times and together with incubation the embryonic cells differentiate to form a chick. If not fertilized, then the oocyte within will never grow or divide and the egg will never hatch (NOT A POTENTIAL CHICK). Similar principle to that of humans. Grow a brain, study a little more and then comment. Thank you!
anlina07 4 months ago
@anlina07 The potential is there, since a man could potentially fertilize that egg and that zygote would grow into a human being. But since he chose not to fertilize it, they have damned that potential person to an infinite non-existence. All he had to do was fertilize it and it would grow, become a human, die and go to heaven (that's what you people believe?). But instead, he chose not to, because he's evil and selfish, and now that combination of DNA (what a person is), will never exist.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
The argument for abortion falls apart when women who consider it, choose to give birth, and then feel guilty for even considering it in the first place when they look at their child. That is proof enough that pro-choicers are full of shit.
LoneRookRS1 5 months ago
I think that even if a women got raped, or abused by a man she didnt love...the baby deserves a life...the baby is still HERS. The baby can be raised to have a good life and not have to be killed. The baby doesnt have to be raised with their father who is an asshole...matter in fact, you can give the baby up for abortion...but the baby is still yours...its coming from your body and flesh...I WISH ABORTIONS NEVER EXISTED!!
CoolnessWendy 5 months ago
@CoolnessWendy me too. I always wonder how killing innocent babies ever became an argument.
MordSith1818 4 months ago
@MordSith1818 I know..and most of the cases are because the girl was stupid on not using protection..she has to face the consequences on raising the baby...but killing the baby is just like killing a human..I find no difference too it.
CoolnessWendy 4 months ago
@CoolnessWendy Forcing a woman to give birth to the seed of her rapist is evil. You should be ashamed of yourself.
And giving a child up for adoption isn't that easy. You think there's a nice family waiting at the hospital with a warm blanket to wrap the seed of a rapist in and take it home?
You need to stop living in a fantasy land.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 First of all, is that the only excuse you can come up with? Rape? Most of the times its because the girl was drunk, stupid, or didnt feel like using protection. Oh well, its her responsibilty now. The baby is innocent. And by the way, your username shouldnt have the name JESUS in it, it should say Satan because every baby is god angels.
Your so cold hearted...who knows that baby could of been the new Martin Luther King? or the new president?
CoolnessWendy 4 months ago
@CoolnessWendy There's lots of reasons to have an abortion, not just rape. But rape is the one that can't be defended. I don't care what you say, if you want to force people to have their rapists child, you're evil. You lose right then and there.
And it's a good thing this discussion is just hypothetical, since abortion is legal across the board. It doesn't matter what reason you have, you can get an abortion. The reason should never even be discussed.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 I'm not ashamed of anything, Im actually proud of myself for argueing about this =)
CoolnessWendy 4 months ago
@CoolnessWendy I know you're not ashamed, that's why I said you should be. I bet you wouldn't have the audacity to tell a woman who's just been raped that she should keep the baby, lest she be a murderer. If you would, then you're disgusting.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 I wouldnt say it like that IDIOT, my advice to her would to be to keep the baby, and I am never gonna be ashamed about myself cause I know I'm doing the right thing!!!! =)))))
CoolnessWendy 4 months ago
@CoolnessWendy And giving her that "advice" is insensitive and selfish. You're more worried about your own self-righteous beliefs than someone else's feelings. You should be ashamed for that.
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Well Im not soooo too bad for you, cause your the selfish one being soo liberal !
CoolnessWendy 4 months ago
@CoolnessWendy You're trying to tell people what to do because it's what YOU believe. That's selfish. You're pushing your beliefs on others. I'm not. I'm saying people should do what they want. How is that selfish?
ninjajesus81 4 months ago
wow, this video assures me i did the right thing when i got my abortion. those babies are disgusting
pabstbluehipster 5 months ago
@pabstbluehipster your fucking disgusting-
maybe your mom should have sat in castor oil when she was mistakenly knocked up with you!
nluvwithlayne07 5 months ago
@nluvwithlayne07 judging from your comment, you approve of abortion too?
pabstbluehipster 5 months ago
@pabstbluehipster the only abortion i would have approved of was you.
your probably just a date rape baby anyways.
nluvwithlayne07 5 months ago
@nluvwithlayne07 ok so you're saying abortion is sometimes okay and that rape is cool? you should be ashamed of yourself. i'm glad my son is dead and will never have to meet people like you
pabstbluehipster 5 months ago
@pabstbluehipster rape is nowhere near cool. Thats why i'm saying you should have been aborted. Either your mom wasn't smart enough to use protection, or your dad missed her asshole and made you instead. Since you were supposedly able to tell the sex, you commited an illegal abortion, and you will rot in hell, regardless of how far along you were. So YOU should be ashamed of yourself. I'm glad your baby is dead too, so it doesn't have a low life piece of shit as a mother.
nluvwithlayne07 5 months ago
@nluvwithlayne07 LOL good thing hell doesn't exist right?? you're glad i aborted my child? what is wrong with you? some anti-abortionist you are... I'm glad he is dead and you know what? i wish you were dead too.
pabstbluehipster 5 months ago
@pabstbluehipster Try not being a whore, and use protection. The world would have been a lot better off if your mom would have just sucked your dad off, and swallowed you.
bb152005 5 months ago
we don't like to kill our unborn, we need them to grow up and fight our wars, if you are really pro-life then why are most pro-lifers republican who believe that if you can't afford to have that life saving surgery, then you should not get it and die, the same people who believe that guns are good thing, when their sole purpose is to kill, i have had it with all the double standers, if you are really "pro life" then why don't you try protesting at funerals?
markjohnston781 5 months ago
@markjohnston781 There is a difference, but you are too stupid to see it. With abortion you are killing a baby who has done nothing wrong. With a gun (for defense) you are killing a criminal who can make his own decisions, and his decision was to harm an innocent person. Liberals are the ones who don't want to punish criminals. Oh, and fighting in a war is a persons choice. The government is not forcing them to do it.
bb152005 5 months ago
@PeacefulLivin I completely understand that there are couples that want the child but for some girls its still 9 months of hell literally carrying the burden of a rape or a huge mistake on there shoulders, im not just making this shit up i do know from first hand experience. though i do under stand what your saying
mymuzicful 5 months ago