(Part2)Smythe investigated the population with the help of many Chinese staffs on February 1938. He wrote a report which shows the population of Nanking was 250,000 or 270,000 as of the end of March 1938. Furthermore, The Nanking City Administrative Office of the Nanking Restoration Government, which was established on March 28, 1938, registered 277,000 inhabitants. Japanese soldiers killed 300,000 Chinese people in Nanking city? I don't want to hear Chinese people stories which they hope.
(Part1)John Rabe, the Safety Zone Committee (TSZC) member, wrote in his diary in Dec 10, when the Nanking battle began, the Nanking population was 200,000. TSZC described in the Document No.9 dated in Dec 17, "On the 13th when the Japanese entered the city, we had nearly all the civilian population in the Safety Zone, so the number 200,000 is no doubt. TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000.
@sinnieleeonUtube A deliberate policy by current jap history revisionists to minimise or remove any references to jap atrocities committed in Asia ie China and the Pacific. History taught to jap children omits the nasty truthy bits.
@Flamstop --- I cannot understand this mentality. I mean there are videos and films that recorded these atrocities and victims who are still alive today. It's not like these were
word of mouth that passed down from a 2000 yrs ago.
@sinnieleeonUtube Correct but the reasoning is that if these morons continue to tell a llie over and over then hopefully some people will fall for it. As the son of a WW2 vet and the nephew of one who did not survive jap capture I cannot stand for it.
Do you know the fact that the Nanking city was controlled by Chinese government after the Japanese occupied the city? The Reformed Government of the Republic of China (Chinese: 中華民國維新政府) was a Chinese provisional government protected by Japan that existed from 1938 to 1940. 梁鴻志,温宗尭,陳群,陳籙,陳錦濤,王子恵,江洪杰,陳則民,任援道,許修直,朱履龢,高冠吾 and 傅筱庵 controlled the Nanking city until 1940.
1937, 12/18 reported by T. Tillman Durdin in The New York Times , headlines as follows : "All Captives Slain " " Civilians Also Killed as the Japanese Spread Terror in Nanking " "U.S. Embassy is raided"
China doesn't have any conclusive evidence about the Nanking Massacre. However, they have appealed the massacre was true story. Even the Chinese historians, they could not prove the stupid false story to Americans.
In fact, the Nanking population increased to 277,000 from 200,000. Also all of the Nanking Massacre pictures were fabricated by Chinese government. Moreover, well-known witnesses about it admitted their stories were hearsay.
Chinese Army killed over 4 million civilians in the 1938 Yellow River flood alone. Not to mention, it was a common practice for Chinese Army to burn down their own cities, just like how they did it in the 1938 Changsha Fire. Some communist sympathizers estimates the death toll of Nanking Massacre using statistics provided by China, but I am not sure if they are really counting all the deaths caused by Chinese Army themselves.
There are some really really nasty characters and they must be excised from humanity either by llife imprisonment or termination with extreme prejudice . Civilized people can not bury their heads in the sand, because the evil won't go away until it is confronted. In modern times the evil is islamic jihad WORLD WIDE . Every rat hole they dig we have to dig them out .
★4-1★ " 通州事件=Tongzhou incident " occurred on July 29, 1937. Chinese self-government troops attacked the Japanese troops and the Japanese secret military agency, and this Chinese troops also massacred the denizen Japanese. " 通州=Tongzhou city " was a town east of Beijing. At that time Japanese troops were stationed there to protect the Japanese denizen.
★4-2★ 1937, from July 07 to July 28, Chinese troops attacked the Japanese troops several times. July 29, about 3,000 of Chinese troops suddenly attacked about 110 of Japanese troops and about 420 of Japanese denizen. And about 230 of Japanese people were massacred. Brutal bizarre sight of the murder were seen here and there. Some Japanese women were raped and killed in the genital bites a broom. Other Japanese women were killed, and their breasts were cut off.
★4-3★ Severed heads of Japanese female clerks were arranged along on the coffee table. Some beheaded Japanese women were raped. Some Japanese men were killed, and their intestines were out of their bellies. Japanese children were killed and their noses were pieced through with wire rings. Some Japanese men were killed, and their ears and noses were cut off, and their dead bodies were pieced together through with steel wire, and lastly thrown into the lake.
★4-4★ But the Chinese Communist government has not disclosed this unusually brutal massacre of Japanese at all to the Chinese people. Moreover, the Chinese Communist government has exploited photos of the slaughtered Japanese corpses as photos of the Chinese corpses in Nanjing Massacre !!
It is lucky for the Japanese rightists for the strong control of speech exerted by the CCP otherwise hundreds of demonstrations and protests against Nanking massacre and invasion of Diaoyu Island by the common Chinese in various Chinese cities would be unavoidable in times of anger.
@oneofthejapanese You just don't dare to talk about the Nanking massacre huh? The massacre in which hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed, little girls and women and even old grandmas were raped and tortured and murdered.
Your value system is not based on human nature. Your value system is based on your pathetically twisted nationalism.
Until now, you still deny the crimes.
Should I give a list of the purposes of the Japanese Government's covering up on their crimes in WW2?
@oneofthejapanese. Is your wage from working in a ramen joint or video arcade preventing you from getting a proper education? Japan has one of highest quality in education in Asia and you are bringing disgrace to that prestige. If you want to bring some sense of pride to your country then start off with fixing your poor education.
★Former Japanese soldiers have already died, but they left a testimony that there was no massacre in Nanjing.
They said Chinese soldiers immediately surrendered without resistance at that time, and they said they did not see Chinese common civilians because Chinese people were already evacuated to distant from Nanjing when Japanese soldiers arrived in Nanjing.
Nanjing Massacre is a vicious big lie by Chinese government !
Japanese need not to apologize for malicious hoax !
The Japanese nearly 400 were slaughtered in an authority of state of 1937,7,29 China by a Chinese. It was torn a stomach and took out a fetus, and the pregnant woman was hurled.
It was cut a body, and all Japanese were murdered. I tell a lie that a Japanese murdered a Chinese in this.
to all the jap bastards posting ridicules shit on this page i got one thing to say u fuckers got nerve making false accusation my family and countless others have suffer ur wrath 60 years ago and even now u deny what u have done and turn the story around u scums were lucky if the yanks were nice enough to lend the chinese some ships all of u scums would be wipe out
@051883313737 Even Buddha may hit back if his face is hit three times. This is how Japanese behave and Japanese have kept patient for more than 60 years, no more. If China attacks Japan, we welcome that. Puppet Japanese government will be replaced by real Japanese, then Japanese may teach some lessons to people who humiliated Japan for false reasons.
Probably u have the same problems with ur occupied country like we in GER.
The americans shall have to go home, because they r the war-forcing might. Also before 1941 in Asia if somebody is reading serious history books.
However,hope there will be peace in Asia,because in our times a real war can have an only 2 days duration and all is destroyed on every side.I wish for Japan & 4 my country that we will find peacefully a way to restore our cultures from foreign forces.
150 years of diplomatic relations and the brotherhood in war are not forget here.
The former Japan is in my eyes the true core of East-Asia, the highest, naturally culture and I admire that and the way how u fought. (war-crimes, off course not, but happend on every side)
@AntoniusMUC I feel very sorry to Germans that I'd been prejudiced to see Nazis and Hitler as evil until recently. After spending few weeks for researching I've made it sure that Nazis had the great cause for the war and followed International law and Hague treaty much better than Allied countries. A good comfort is that Germany has been recognized as one of the most favorable country in the world. I'm sure that Holohoax spreader will be humiliated sooner or later. The rule of right win always.
@moontokyo EVERYBODY WATCH HERE! This japanese still advocate Nazis and fascism!!! Are you out of your fucking mind? If there's a Jew here you'd be doomed.
A Chinese raped a Japanese in 通州 and slaughtered it. It was let wire go through by a palm, and the man made around ten people one lump. And I was undressed and was cut off a thing. It was cut a stomach and sent the child of the stomach, and the pregnant woman was hurled. It is decided that a Japanese did that oneself worked as the Chinese.
(Part2)It was reported, however, that few responded to the crimes committed by Japanese Army and some refused to testify or to deny the massacre occurred when they were asked for details. Then, the KMT reluctantly submitted the tentative report to the IMTFE on January 20, 1946. Except for one testimony made by a man named Lu Su, no other evidence of massacre by the Japanese Army was available, besides burial records.
(Part1)According to Summary report on the Investigation of Japanese war crimes committed in Nanking, prepared by the Procurator of the District Court in Nanking, to prepare for the IMTFE, the KMT set up the Nanking Investigation Committee for Antagonists Crime on November 7, 1945, and appealed to the Chinese public to report Japanese Army's crimes.
Its a trailer. Why even argue about this? Real history is more important than movies. If you learn to make your argument from movie facts then you will always fail history and make it up in summer school.
After World War II, Japan has a huge amount of economic aid to China. But the Chinese Communist government does not publicize this fact to the Chinese people. Moreover, Chinese government unfairly fabricates a Nanjing Massacre in order to inflame anti-Japanese sentiments. Chinese government wants to use the anti-Japanese movement as one of the bargaining ways against Japan. We know well communist states often use the low shameless ways in the international community.→★
@oneofthejapanese 1.Chinese know your gov had some aid. But do you know that China didn't take a cent of your war indemnity? That's a larger amount of money. Because CCP was thinking you japs are so srewed up after the WW2 and so they didnot take the indemnity!
2. Don't repeat communists again and again. How about South Korea? Filipinos? Why they also have anti-Japanese movements?
This is a massacre by Chinese government against the anti-government Chinese. The Chinese government always thoroughly hides their hard-line crackdowns against the anti-government people and the minorities in China.
@oneofthejapanese hey, one of the japanese, you know nothing about China. Your knowledge came from your government's propaganda, and you choose what you want to believe. Seriously, you just don't have the courage to face the truth of history.
@oneofthejapanese I bielieved what they did was right. If they hadn't stepped in, there would have been a full scale civil-war, which I'm pretty sure the U.S and their puppet government Taiwan would like. They didn't kill that many people, what? 1 thousand people dead in order to keep peace and stability? Yea, I would pick the same choice because if we didn't, there would have been millions of chinese dead and probably might have even started WW3.
@oneofthejapanese You're talking about a totally unrelated event that took place a half century later. Nothing justifies Japan's butchery in WWII. Nothing surpasses this butchery.
@oneofthejapanese of course we know the tianamen massacre, alot of chinese(including me) remember that and fucking hate the communist party, but we know that you and undertakerrach are just the japanese equivelent of 50 cent party, we all know that you two and many others and on the payroll of japanese right wings, gtfo
@Vampiric59 Have you noticed this? These Japanese here always try to alter the topic from the massacre in China by japanese to the CCP's crime in China. Changing the topic- what a smart idea!
@oneofthejapanese What the Communists have done is what they have done. What the Japanese have done is what they have done. All crimes against humanity, there are no excuses.
(Part1)The Tungchow Mutiny was a cruel massacre because Chinese killed many nonresistance Japanese and Koreans civilians in Tōngzhōu, China on 29 July 1937.
The slaughterer Chinese killed them mercilessly; the way of killing and torturing was the same as the way of time-honored custom in China. Definitely, Chinese inhumanity killing ways and means was handed down in Chinese traditionally. In other words, Chinese only could do such a thing cruelly
(Part1)In Nov. 1937, during the Battle of Nanking, the Nationalist Party established The International Propaganda Section (IPS). According to the top-secret document entitled “Outline of International Propaganda Operations,” the IPS held 300 press conferences in Hankou between Dec 1, 1937 and Oct 24, 1938.
(Part1)Chinese Communist Party Chairman Mao Zedong never referred to a massacre in Nanking. He made exactly one mention of the Battle of Nanking during a lecture delivered at Yan’an six months after the conflict, reproduced in On Protracted War. Chairman Mao criticized the Japanese for failing to annihilate Chinese troops after having surrounded them.
(Part2) About 35 foreign journalists and diplomats attended there. However, Chinese didn’t explain the fact which was so-called the Nanking Massacre even once during any of these 300 conferences was a statement or announcement.
(Part2)If there had been slaughter in Nanking of a magnitude so great (300,000 civilian victims) as to prompt the description “holocaust of the century,” there is not the slightest chance that he would have been silent on the matter.
The Chinese are really good people? Where have you been living? In a box? They are the scum of the Earth. Nature's greatest mistake.They skin animals alive on the streets of their towns and cities, they are responsible for the final extinction of most species and are still hammering away at what is left. They will ensure that future generations are robbed of species like the tiger, the rhino and of many or all of the Earth's most precious and natural resources.The chinks are not good people!!!!!
@ericji78 (Part2) because this was the sort of stunt their ancestor always pulls.
The other nationalities might aren't beyond the conception such as Chinese style. In short, The Nanking Massacre was a created story by Chinese who had killed nonresistance civilians of Japanese and Koreans in the Tungchow Mutiny. Unmistakably, the Nanking Massacre was based on the Tungchow Mutiny. They took a hint from the mutiny. This is one of evidence shows that the Nanking Massacre was made up story.
The Nanking Massacre was a false story which was just a rumor creating by China. If the Chinese say the massacre was true story, they should show conclusive evidence. I have written so many Chinese people, but nobody has written the evidence. Nanking believers have appealed the story is true to the world, but it is not indefinite. Moreover, some evidence such as pictures and videos was created by China.
How people can believe the story without evidence?
my point is the Chinese people are really good people and the Japanese shouldnt have done that. even to many koreans or other asians. However, I think there's an issue w/ the Chinese government....i think there should be a reform within them. but yes as a jap, i agree that japanese were like raging barbarians who just didnt know morals at the time
partially i dont agree w/ kaito8209. i believe that Japanese caused many casualties and should compensate for that (im pretty sure they havent fully compensated yet). but i somewhat agree w/ the fact that Chinese people sorta attacks their civilians...but really it's more like the GOVERNMENT, NOT THE PEOPLE who caused harm. for example ,Beijing Olympic..in order to create space for the new stadium....the government destroyed all those houses in Beijing even if people were inside the house.
Japanese Army had to capture Nanking in December 1937. The prosecutions presented for this 'Nanking Massacre' have been various, and especially, the number of victims is controversial. According to the Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone, the committee members in China reported to the world about the number of victims in Nanking battle was 49 people in 1938. Mr. Smythe reported 15,760 victims in 1938. Iris Chang said 300,000 in 1997 in her book The Rape of Nanking.
≪Prosecution of the 'nanking massacre' - Why Differs Widely in Casualties Count≫ Date claims Number of casualties/ 1938 The Safety Zone Committee 49/ 1938 L.C. Smythe 15760/ 1938 M.S. Bates 42000/ 1941 E. Snow 42000/ 1943 A. Smedley 200000/ 1946 Nanking district Court 340000/ 1948 The IMTFE 200000/ 1971 Hsu Long-hsuen and Chang Ming-kai 100000/ 1993 The New Encyclopedia Britannica 42000/ 1995 Communist China 300000/ 1997 Iris Chang 300000
■ (Part2) “One of these was tying a victim immovable and unclothed over a freshly sprouting bed of thorny cactus which is said to grow very rapidly in south China, and with great force, so that sharp spines with which in breaks through the sod pierce upward as it grows and gradually penetrate the helpless man’s body in the course of a day or two”. Not only that, there were many styles of cruel tortures in China. Violation of human rights is Chinese forte.
■ (Part1) China has claimed. In fact, so many cruel tortures, punishments and executions were conducted in everywhere in China by Chinese government in 1900’s. Moreover, In Chinese history, Chinese soldiers destroyed civilian’s homes and a town in order to wipe out any possible supplies or shelter that could be utilized by the over-extended enemy troops. This strategy is called "The Clean Field Strategy" by China.
American Rulph Townsend stayed in China in 1930. He said,
When Japanese soldiers killed people (men. women and children), they used all kinds of methods humanly imaginable, such as shooting, bayoneting, beheading, killing with bamboo spears, burying alive, beating to death, hanging, setting on fire, running over by trucks, and you name it. That's why Japanese used to be called "human animals" throughout Asia during and after WW2.
■ (Part3) Chinese soldiers killed 30,000 their own people in cold blood in Changsha in 1938 under the Clean Field Strategy even though Japanese didn’t reach the city. During the Shino-Japanese war, Chinese military killed Chinese people as if they were a worm. Chinese government was a genius to conceive cruel tortures and killing ways, and at propaganda. They said that the Japanese must have done with these cruel tortures and massacres.
@youngk9lover western propaganda always portrayed their enemies as diabolical,
There is no such propaganda about what soviet soldiers did in poland,germany,baltic states or bombing Entirely civilian people in germany(dresden bombings),Not even mention about how china treating Uygurs and tibetians today.,or what americans did horrible things in vietnam,iraq and afghanistan.
History written by Winners,looser always doomed and ridiculed,
@AntoniusMUC if we insist to examine theese war as a member of nation instead of a humanbeing we always miss the idea of what is make us humankind.
Japan,German,american,russian,chinese no matter which nationality you belong all wars are civil wars always civilians getting killed and majority of the killers get away with it.
@youngk9lover Han tribe Chinese is the only race which has habit of eating human for thousands of years, and Korean is the only race which has habit of eating human shit as far as I know. These two races have culture of telling lies to cheat some advantages. There is no country in Asia which disgrace Asian people but China and Korea.
Japs are the only tribes who have practiced the Yobai culture for over 1000 years. Until quite recently in rural Japan, Yobai would have been an introduction to sex for many young Japs. There is no country in Asia which disgrace Asian people but Japs.
@youngk9lover It seems that my suggestion that you are a virgin boy is correct. For the sake of virgin boy, I teach you. Yobai means that a man to visit secretly a girlfriend house at night to have fun. Trolling on the net does not give you a girlfriend. Go outside.
@moontokyo where did u get that shit i have never heard, read or seen such article don't think ur so high and mighty with ur faulty accusations u can't deny what ur people did and another thing china is a disgrace? look at ur own culture and what they did japan is the only asian country that has committed genocide against all other so shut the fuck up be glad that u are alive today not a nuked mutated thing think twice before posting lies
@051883313737 Read old Chinese books. There are many stories which suggest Han tribe Chinese ate humans habitually for pursuing taste of food. Read old Korean books. There are also many books which are written about how to eat human shit. I'm serious.
@youngk9lover Absolutely right my friend.Both my Father and Uncle were airman in the RAAF and were paid to shoot these cunts during the Pacific war. My Father survived the war but my Uncle was shot down,captured and beheaded by these cunts. Me? I'd shoot the little yellow bastards for FREE!
Agree 100%. I spit on japan and refuse to consciously buy anything japanese. We have to remember all the men who paid the ultimate price. The Arizona still leaks oil yet its good to see the Mighty Mo there at Pearl as a reminder that we kicked the sh*t out of those mindless nips
@goodoldrebel8 The japs lacked the human,natural resources and industrial might of the US so they'd lost before they'd even started.....thats basic math.We could not possibly have beaten the japs alone so I am very grateful indeed for the massive sacrifices made by the US during the Pacific and European wars.
Mao was a loyal ally in ww2 unlike the soviets. Its a shame that we supported the fascist, corrupt inhumane, Kuomintang. Look at how many taiwanese were murdered when chiang kai shek got his ass kicked off the mainland & forced himself on that island. We made the same mistake in vietnam by supporting a corrupt government. Anyway, we were phobic about the word 'communism' and weren't able to distinguish from the russians, chinese, n. koreans or n.vietnamese form of communism.
Australia, Canada and USA are natural allies. By the way "Scapegoats of the Empire" has always been one of my favorite reads. You know that story-- the Boar War etc.
@Flamstop If we supported Mao instead of the Nationalists, the nips would have been so bogged down in China that no way they would have had the resources to launch an attack on Australia or even New Guinea for that matter. Mao's army eventually beat back the nips. Its bizarre that we supported the nationalists as chiang kai shek's son was an officer in the nazi kraut army. You can see pictures of him all dressed up as a nazi. The nationalists didn't really want to fight the nips
(Part2) and 9,160 death tolls due to the brutal treatments in the rural area of Nanking - Jiangning. This is all but impossible to prove 300,000 massacred. In addition, these figures do not specify who were the offenders. The number of deaths, therefore, has not been specified as to whether they were the soldier's deaths or the ones due to the battles, or the victims of the 'Scorched earth operation' practiced by the Chinese Army or the victims due to unlawful acts of the Chinese deserters.
(Part1)There is what is called Smythe's Investigation. This is the investigation of the war damage in Nanking made by Lewis S. C. Smythe, professor of Sociology, Nanking University and his Chinese assistants.According to the Smythe's Investigation, the personal injury among civilians in the urban area is totaled to l5,760. Among them, 2,400 death tolls due to the brutal treatments and 4,200 taken away (those who were taken away were considered dead) in the urban area,
those japanese screams are so annoying. We beat jap nips in schoool for fun. Weak fuckers with small penis can't defend themselves. hahahhaa japanese nips so weak. I could take on 20 of you slit eye cunts. hahahahaa
These Japanese officers were eventually found guilty and hanged when they were trialled in Tokyo and Nanking so it shows that in the end with truth in our hands, the foe shall be overcome.
Ways That Are Dark ~The truth about China Ralph Townsend
If a jury of the most experienced Americans or Englishmen in China today were asked to name the most prominent characteristic in the Chinese mentality as opposed to our own, I think most if not all of them would unhesitatingly answer, “lying." In the West we scarcely know anything about lying. We are rank amateurs.
(Part2) "She referred to that notorious order for Prince ASAKANOMIYA and his staff to 'kill all POWs', but her statement was of no reliable evidence."
For another example, David M. Kennedy, the chief of history department of Stanford University, contributed to the Atlantic Monthly (April 1998), and demonstrated his opinion as follows: She [Iris Chang] is clearly tempted to argue that the Rape of Nanking resulted from formal political decisions taken at the highest levels,
《Did the Japanese Army have a policy of killing POWs? 》
(Part1)Prince ASAKANOMIYA's 'order for killing POWs' was referred to in Japan's Imperial Conspiracy (New York, William Morrow and company, Inc., 1971) by David Bergamini. However, American historians pointed out that the contents of this book were greatly suspicious.
For example, Richard Finn, Emeritus Professor of American University, criticized Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking saying,
(Part3) an argument whose virtually lone proponent is the historian David Bergamini, whom Chang repeatedly cites.
In a decidedly eccentric book, Japan's Imperial Conspiracy (1971), Bergamini tried to lay the blame for Nanjing and much else squarely at the feet of Emperor Hirohito. Chang is obliged to concede that "unfortunately, Bergamini's book was seriously criticized by reputable historians.
Part2)The Chinese government has announced that all of these victims were massacred by the Japanese even though they killed many Chinese people. The Chinese government used a clever trick which was called Chinese propaganda during the war. They are an expert on lies, Ralph Townsend said.
Ralph Townsend has no creditbilities because he was a Japanese agent work for Japan's interests.A liar says others are experts of lies, how funny it is.
I mean were the casualties in Hiroshima and Nagasaki non-existent simply because you cannot count the complete number of bodies , this is the same case with Nanking Massacre because a lot of dead bodies were not buried but dumped into Yantze river and were burned into ashes.
Part1)In Chinese history, Chinese soldiers destroyed the homes and fields of their own civilians in order to wipe out any possible supplies or shelter that could be utilized by the over-extended enemy troops. This strategy is called "The Clean Field Strategy" by China. In fact, Chinese soldiers killed 30,000 their own people in cold blood in Changsha in 1938 under this strategy in spite of the fact that the Japanese didn’t attack the city.
What about hundreds and thousands of genuine pictures that evidenced the Nanking massacre which you don't mention?
The IMTFE gave the verdict that at least 200,000 Chinese both civilians and POWs were murdered in Nanking on the first 6 weeks of Japanese occupation, what else do you want ?
Burial records by charitable societies could account to 270,000 bodies in one theory, some of these societies were commissioned and paid by the Japanese authorities..
The Chinese govt did not pay Harold Timperley for writing " What War Means" which was a compilation of his own reports published in the Guardian of UK earlier.
Since the book was a factual description of Japanese war crimes in Nanking , KMT found it useful to expose Japanese atrocities in order to get international help for the war against Japan, so KMT bought the right of translation of the book into Chinese only.
According to the document under the title of 'Outline of International Propaganda' preserved in Taiwan, the Chinese Nationalist Ministry of Information considered "What are means" was a propaganda book.
Moreover, He was a advisor to the Chinese Nationalist Ministry of Information.
@Thak11 According to the document under the title of 'Outline of International Propaganda' preserved in Taiwan, the Chinese Nationalist Ministry of Information considered "What are means" was a propaganda book. Moreover, He was a advisor to the Chinese Nationalist Ministry of Information.
@Thak11 According to "burital lists" submitted to the IMTFE, the Advance Benevolnce Society had buried 112,226 and the Red Swastika Society had buried 43,071, respectively. Total 112,226. (You are WRONG) ============ Where were remains? If the bodys were burned without leaving any trace as you said, how Charitable Society had counted the bodies? ====== CONTRADICTION ===== NO EVIDENCE====== You stupid.
Those bodies dumped into Yantze river and burned into ashes were not counted yet. What about the bodies buried by Lok Sin Tong and other Nanking citizens individually?
(Part3) Also, the figure of those taken by force has contained those who might have been released later, or some who were taken by force by the Chinese Army as a militiaman or a civilian war worker.
In addition that there did not exist the formal documents 'ordering to kill all POWs,' the existing formal documents had been saying clearly contrary to the accusation. Therefore, there was absolutely no ground for such criticism that 'the Japanese Army's policy was to kill all POWs from the beginning.'
(Part1)In Chinese history, Chinese soldiers destroyed the homes and fields of their own civilians in order to wipe out any possible supplies or shelter that could be utilized by the over-extended enemy troops. This strategy is called "The Clean Field Strategy" by China. In fact, Chinese soldiers killed 30,000 their own people in cold blood in Changsha in 1938 under this strategy in spite of the fact that the Japanese didn’t attack the city.
(Part2)The Chinese government has announced that all of these victims were massacred by the Japanese even though they killed many Chinese people. The Chinese government used a clever trick which was called Chinese propaganda during the war. They are an expert on lies, Ralph Townsend said.
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Not taking sides but I want to point out the facts
1.Japan killed a bunch of Chinese during WW2 using inhumane methods including the civilians, showing the first modern massacre in China
2. The Chinese Communists killed way more Chinese than the Japanese did
3.Japan still denies lots of its pact and distorts their war records
4.China distorts their records regarding facts like TianAnMen Massacre or Tibet's Uprising
Now lets stop this trash talk as if we are saints but the others are evil
jinanimal6 2 days ago
(Part2)Smythe investigated the population with the help of many Chinese staffs on February 1938. He wrote a report which shows the population of Nanking was 250,000 or 270,000 as of the end of March 1938. Furthermore, The Nanking City Administrative Office of the Nanking Restoration Government, which was established on March 28, 1938, registered 277,000 inhabitants. Japanese soldiers killed 300,000 Chinese people in Nanking city? I don't want to hear Chinese people stories which they hope.
undertakerRach 2 days ago
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(Part1)John Rabe, the Safety Zone Committee (TSZC) member, wrote in his diary in Dec 10, when the Nanking battle began, the Nanking population was 200,000. TSZC described in the Document No.9 dated in Dec 17, "On the 13th when the Japanese entered the city, we had nearly all the civilian population in the Safety Zone, so the number 200,000 is no doubt. TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000.
undertakerRach 2 days ago
The Japs and the Nazis were so proud of themselves before and all of a sudden they make themselves out to be victims nowaday. What's going on here ?
sinnieleeonUtube 4 days ago
@sinnieleeonUtube A deliberate policy by current jap history revisionists to minimise or remove any references to jap atrocities committed in Asia ie China and the Pacific. History taught to jap children omits the nasty truthy bits.
Flamstop 4 days ago
@Flamstop --- I cannot understand this mentality. I mean there are videos and films that recorded these atrocities and victims who are still alive today. It's not like these were
word of mouth that passed down from a 2000 yrs ago.
sinnieleeonUtube 4 days ago
@sinnieleeonUtube Correct but the reasoning is that if these morons continue to tell a llie over and over then hopefully some people will fall for it. As the son of a WW2 vet and the nephew of one who did not survive jap capture I cannot stand for it.
Flamstop 4 days ago
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Do you know the fact that the Nanking city was controlled by Chinese government after the Japanese occupied the city? The Reformed Government of the Republic of China (Chinese: 中華民國維新政府) was a Chinese provisional government protected by Japan that existed from 1938 to 1940. 梁鴻志,温宗尭,陳群,陳籙,陳錦濤,王子恵,江洪杰,陳則民,任援道,許修直,朱履龢,高冠吾 and 傅筱庵 controlled the Nanking city until 1940.
Haven't you learned the history in school?
undertakerRach 4 days ago
Nanking Massacre Campaign in order to hide Tibet problem
SOVIETasTheINVADER 1 week ago
1937, 12/18 reported by T. Tillman Durdin in The New York Times , headlines as follows : "All Captives Slain " " Civilians Also Killed as the Japanese Spread Terror in Nanking " "U.S. Embassy is raided"
Thak11 1 week ago
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China doesn't have any conclusive evidence about the Nanking Massacre. However, they have appealed the massacre was true story. Even the Chinese historians, they could not prove the stupid false story to Americans.
In fact, the Nanking population increased to 277,000 from 200,000. Also all of the Nanking Massacre pictures were fabricated by Chinese government. Moreover, well-known witnesses about it admitted their stories were hearsay.
undertakerRach 1 week ago
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There Is Not a Single "Real Photograph" Documenting the Nanking Incident
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Kawanya37 2 weeks ago
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Chinese Army killed over 4 million civilians in the 1938 Yellow River flood alone. Not to mention, it was a common practice for Chinese Army to burn down their own cities, just like how they did it in the 1938 Changsha Fire. Some communist sympathizers estimates the death toll of Nanking Massacre using statistics provided by China, but I am not sure if they are really counting all the deaths caused by Chinese Army themselves.
onigoroshi442 2 weeks ago
Oh man. Can't get enough of this nationalism commentary. :/
sesenkodude 2 weeks ago
There are some really really nasty characters and they must be excised from humanity either by llife imprisonment or termination with extreme prejudice . Civilized people can not bury their heads in the sand, because the evil won't go away until it is confronted. In modern times the evil is islamic jihad WORLD WIDE . Every rat hole they dig we have to dig them out .
PERIOD
fabianstraregy 3 weeks ago
Long live china!
33guyfawkes 3 weeks ago
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Chinese Torture Atrocities: Beheadings Death by a 1000 Cuts. Note: Mao's Wife Demands the president of China be tortured to "death by 1000 cuts."
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Watch the video of the title above.
Everyone will be surprised to know a lot of atrocities by brutal CCP and the past cruel Chinese.
The Chinese should be ashamed of the fact that they originally love the bloody corpse.
oneofthejapanese 3 weeks ago
@oneofthejapanese very funny. make a video about it
SirHungryHippo 3 weeks ago
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Japan resolutely blames a lot of crafty conspiracies by the Chinese Communist Party.
CCP has fabricated a malicious fake story "Nanjing Massacre" in order to unfairly disparage Japan in the international community.
oneofthejapanese 3 weeks ago
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Dirty ways of plots by CCP are always same.
First, CCP thoroughly deceives the Chinese people by fake pictures and fake movies.
Next, CCP incites anti-Japanese movements to completely fooled and furious Chinese people across China.
Then, CCP delivers to the world a lot of news of violent riots by angry Chinese people.
CCP is more crafty than former Nazis !!
oneofthejapanese 3 weeks ago
★4-1★ " 通州事件=Tongzhou incident " occurred on July 29, 1937. Chinese self-government troops attacked the Japanese troops and the Japanese secret military agency, and this Chinese troops also massacred the denizen Japanese. " 通州=Tongzhou city " was a town east of Beijing. At that time Japanese troops were stationed there to protect the Japanese denizen.
oneofthejapanese 3 weeks ago
@oneofthejapanese Whatever you were studying was out of space... lol!
BobBlobOfFancyPants 3 weeks ago
★4-2★ 1937, from July 07 to July 28, Chinese troops attacked the Japanese troops several times. July 29, about 3,000 of Chinese troops suddenly attacked about 110 of Japanese troops and about 420 of Japanese denizen. And about 230 of Japanese people were massacred. Brutal bizarre sight of the murder were seen here and there. Some Japanese women were raped and killed in the genital bites a broom. Other Japanese women were killed, and their breasts were cut off.
oneofthejapanese 3 weeks ago
★4-3★ Severed heads of Japanese female clerks were arranged along on the coffee table. Some beheaded Japanese women were raped. Some Japanese men were killed, and their intestines were out of their bellies. Japanese children were killed and their noses were pieced through with wire rings. Some Japanese men were killed, and their ears and noses were cut off, and their dead bodies were pieced together through with steel wire, and lastly thrown into the lake.
oneofthejapanese 3 weeks ago
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★4-4★ But the Chinese Communist government has not disclosed this unusually brutal massacre of Japanese at all to the Chinese people. Moreover, the Chinese Communist government has exploited photos of the slaughtered Japanese corpses as photos of the Chinese corpses in Nanjing Massacre !!
oneofthejapanese 3 weeks ago
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oneofthejapanese 3 weeks ago
★ Communist governments thoroughly hide inconvenient truth.
Communist governments thoroughly slaughter cumbersome people like anti-government agitator or ethnic minorities.
In communist countries, national people are merely used as political tools.
They are not guarantees of fundamental human rights.
They pretend to faithfully obey the government because they know well rebels are surely killed.
oneofthejapanese 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese Are you retarded? We are talking about NANKING MASSACRE here.
Are you fucking retarded?!!
lonewar 1 month ago
It is lucky for the Japanese rightists for the strong control of speech exerted by the CCP otherwise hundreds of demonstrations and protests against Nanking massacre and invasion of Diaoyu Island by the common Chinese in various Chinese cities would be unavoidable in times of anger.
Thak11 1 month ago
★ Communist states always enforce strong control of speech and deliberate manipulation of information.
First of all, it is too obsolete that state leads national people to a specific concept.
Liberalism states are laughing at childish incitement by communist states.
oneofthejapanese 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese Yeah continue to laugh. You still can't change the fact you japs committed big massacre in Nanking. You're evil.
lonewar 1 month ago
★ The Chinese government's anti-Japanese propaganda has two purposes.
One of them is to use historical events of the past as means of attacks in negotiations with Japan.
Another purpose is to hide the brutal massacre of anti-government Chinese by the Chinese government.
oneofthejapanese 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese you are the same person as UndertakerRach
Vampiric59 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese You just don't dare to talk about the Nanking massacre huh? The massacre in which hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed, little girls and women and even old grandmas were raped and tortured and murdered.
Your value system is not based on human nature. Your value system is based on your pathetically twisted nationalism.
Until now, you still deny the crimes.
Should I give a list of the purposes of the Japanese Government's covering up on their crimes in WW2?
lonewar 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese. Is your wage from working in a ramen joint or video arcade preventing you from getting a proper education? Japan has one of highest quality in education in Asia and you are bringing disgrace to that prestige. If you want to bring some sense of pride to your country then start off with fixing your poor education.
TKKTism 1 month ago
★Former Japanese soldiers have already died, but they left a testimony that there was no massacre in Nanjing.
They said Chinese soldiers immediately surrendered without resistance at that time, and they said they did not see Chinese common civilians because Chinese people were already evacuated to distant from Nanjing when Japanese soldiers arrived in Nanjing.
Nanjing Massacre is a vicious big lie by Chinese government !
Japanese need not to apologize for malicious hoax !
oneofthejapanese 1 month ago
勿忘国耻
wendevideo 1 month ago
9 PPL WAS JAPS
kayzkzkzkzk 1 month ago
The Japanese nearly 400 were slaughtered in an authority of state of 1937,7,29 China by a Chinese. It was torn a stomach and took out a fetus, and the pregnant woman was hurled.
It was cut a body, and all Japanese were murdered. I tell a lie that a Japanese murdered a Chinese in this.
japansaikoful 1 month ago
to all the jap bastards posting ridicules shit on this page i got one thing to say u fuckers got nerve making false accusation my family and countless others have suffer ur wrath 60 years ago and even now u deny what u have done and turn the story around u scums were lucky if the yanks were nice enough to lend the chinese some ships all of u scums would be wipe out
051883313737 1 month ago
@051883313737 Even Buddha may hit back if his face is hit three times. This is how Japanese behave and Japanese have kept patient for more than 60 years, no more. If China attacks Japan, we welcome that. Puppet Japanese government will be replaced by real Japanese, then Japanese may teach some lessons to people who humiliated Japan for false reasons.
moontokyo 1 month ago
@moontokyo
Probably u have the same problems with ur occupied country like we in GER.
The americans shall have to go home, because they r the war-forcing might. Also before 1941 in Asia if somebody is reading serious history books.
However,hope there will be peace in Asia,because in our times a real war can have an only 2 days duration and all is destroyed on every side.I wish for Japan & 4 my country that we will find peacefully a way to restore our cultures from foreign forces.
AntoniusMUC 1 month ago
@moontokyo
...outher that:
150 years of diplomatic relations and the brotherhood in war are not forget here.
The former Japan is in my eyes the true core of East-Asia, the highest, naturally culture and I admire that and the way how u fought. (war-crimes, off course not, but happend on every side)
Greetings
AntoniusMUC 1 month ago
@AntoniusMUC I feel very sorry to Germans that I'd been prejudiced to see Nazis and Hitler as evil until recently. After spending few weeks for researching I've made it sure that Nazis had the great cause for the war and followed International law and Hague treaty much better than Allied countries. A good comfort is that Germany has been recognized as one of the most favorable country in the world. I'm sure that Holohoax spreader will be humiliated sooner or later. The rule of right win always.
moontokyo 1 month ago
@moontokyo EVERYBODY WATCH HERE! This japanese still advocate Nazis and fascism!!! Are you out of your fucking mind? If there's a Jew here you'd be doomed.
FUCK YOU japanese nazi
lonewar 1 month ago
A Chinese raped a Japanese in 通州 and slaughtered it. It was let wire go through by a palm, and the man made around ten people one lump. And I was undressed and was cut off a thing. It was cut a stomach and sent the child of the stomach, and the pregnant woman was hurled. It is decided that a Japanese did that oneself worked as the Chinese.
japansaikoful 1 month ago
@japansaikoful give me a link to the official news page and report or go do ur fucking bashido
051883313737 1 month ago
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Come on Commie Chinks, Japanese = immigrants from China, Chinese=Japanese,
you are accusing your own self.
keynesac 1 month ago
The truth is here.
nankingatricites net
Thak11 1 month ago
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(Part2)It was reported, however, that few responded to the crimes committed by Japanese Army and some refused to testify or to deny the massacre occurred when they were asked for details. Then, the KMT reluctantly submitted the tentative report to the IMTFE on January 20, 1946. Except for one testimony made by a man named Lu Su, no other evidence of massacre by the Japanese Army was available, besides burial records.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
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(Part1)According to Summary report on the Investigation of Japanese war crimes committed in Nanking, prepared by the Procurator of the District Court in Nanking, to prepare for the IMTFE, the KMT set up the Nanking Investigation Committee for Antagonists Crime on November 7, 1945, and appealed to the Chinese public to report Japanese Army's crimes.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
Its a trailer. Why even argue about this? Real history is more important than movies. If you learn to make your argument from movie facts then you will always fail history and make it up in summer school.
toberlycoberly 1 month ago
มันม่วนดี
namkhangice 1 month ago
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日本人是狗
Japanese is a DOG
k23000000 1 month ago
After World War II, Japan has a huge amount of economic aid to China. But the Chinese Communist government does not publicize this fact to the Chinese people. Moreover, Chinese government unfairly fabricates a Nanjing Massacre in order to inflame anti-Japanese sentiments. Chinese government wants to use the anti-Japanese movement as one of the bargaining ways against Japan. We know well communist states often use the low shameless ways in the international community.→★
oneofthejapanese 2 months ago
@oneofthejapanese 1.Chinese know your gov had some aid. But do you know that China didn't take a cent of your war indemnity? That's a larger amount of money. Because CCP was thinking you japs are so srewed up after the WW2 and so they didnot take the indemnity!
2. Don't repeat communists again and again. How about South Korea? Filipinos? Why they also have anti-Japanese movements?
lonewar 1 month ago
@lonewar Hi, Chinese cute boy !
Good boy should not believe poor grandpa of Communist Party of China.
oneofthejapanese 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese You shut up. Kneel down. Say sorry.
lonewar 1 month ago
★→ Do you know the Tiananmen Square massacre ?
This is a massacre by Chinese government against the anti-government Chinese. The Chinese government always thoroughly hides their hard-line crackdowns against the anti-government people and the minorities in China.
oneofthejapanese 2 months ago 4
@oneofthejapanese hey, one of the japanese, you know nothing about China. Your knowledge came from your government's propaganda, and you choose what you want to believe. Seriously, you just don't have the courage to face the truth of history.
ljeckosunny 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese I bielieved what they did was right. If they hadn't stepped in, there would have been a full scale civil-war, which I'm pretty sure the U.S and their puppet government Taiwan would like. They didn't kill that many people, what? 1 thousand people dead in order to keep peace and stability? Yea, I would pick the same choice because if we didn't, there would have been millions of chinese dead and probably might have even started WW3.
SpedMrAttack 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese You're talking about a totally unrelated event that took place a half century later. Nothing justifies Japan's butchery in WWII. Nothing surpasses this butchery.
shaggybreeks 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese of course we know the tianamen massacre, alot of chinese(including me) remember that and fucking hate the communist party, but we know that you and undertakerrach are just the japanese equivelent of 50 cent party, we all know that you two and many others and on the payroll of japanese right wings, gtfo
Vampiric59 1 month ago
@Vampiric59 Have you noticed this? These Japanese here always try to alter the topic from the massacre in China by japanese to the CCP's crime in China. Changing the topic- what a smart idea!
lonewar 1 month ago
@lonewar they are on the payroll of right wings lmao
Vampiric59 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese This is Nanking! Nanking MASSACRE! by the japs! You miserable fuck go to hell if you deny this!
lonewar 1 month ago
@oneofthejapanese What the Communists have done is what they have done. What the Japanese have done is what they have done. All crimes against humanity, there are no excuses.
Anonymous52550 4 weeks ago 8
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通州事件とは、はるか昔から中国に伝わる虐殺方法・拷問方法を使用して、
中国人が無抵抗な日本人(妊婦、幼児も含む)、そして朝鮮人を大虐殺した事件。
これらの残虐な行為は、中国に古くから伝わる一般的な虐殺方法であり、中国人にしか思いつかない惨いやり方である。つまり南京大虐殺は、中国人が無抵抗な日本人・朝鮮人を、想像も絶するような非道な方法で虐殺した「通州事件をモデルにして 作られた嘘の歴史」であるという一つの証拠でもある。
これらの残虐な行為は、中国に古くから伝わる一般的な虐殺方法であり、中国人にしか思いつかない惨いやり方である。つまり南京大虐殺は、中国人が無抵抗な日本人・朝鮮人を、想像も絶するような非道な方法で虐殺した「通州事件をモデルにして 作られた嘘の歴史」であるという一つの証拠でもある。
kaito8209 2 months ago
(Part1)The Tungchow Mutiny was a cruel massacre because Chinese killed many nonresistance Japanese and Koreans civilians in Tōngzhōu, China on 29 July 1937.
The slaughterer Chinese killed them mercilessly; the way of killing and torturing was the same as the way of time-honored custom in China. Definitely, Chinese inhumanity killing ways and means was handed down in Chinese traditionally. In other words, Chinese only could do such a thing cruelly
kaito8209 2 months ago
(Part1)In Nov. 1937, during the Battle of Nanking, the Nationalist Party established The International Propaganda Section (IPS). According to the top-secret document entitled “Outline of International Propaganda Operations,” the IPS held 300 press conferences in Hankou between Dec 1, 1937 and Oct 24, 1938.
kaito8209 2 months ago
中国共産党率いる毛沢東は南京大虐殺について、一切何も語ってはいない。
(Part1)Chinese Communist Party Chairman Mao Zedong never referred to a massacre in Nanking. He made exactly one mention of the Battle of Nanking during a lecture delivered at Yan’an six months after the conflict, reproduced in On Protracted War. Chairman Mao criticized the Japanese for failing to annihilate Chinese troops after having surrounded them.
kaito8209 2 months ago
@singaporeshithead i wonder why china dont drop 10 in japan NOW
1118genius 2 months ago
I always do not understand why Japs do not dare China will revenge over them if they refuse to apologize their crimes.
Davidhaitaopan 2 months ago
@Davidhaitaopan Because the USA will protect them ! on the other hand, japan is controlled by usa. are you an american?
1118genius 2 months ago
@1118genius
(Part2) About 35 foreign journalists and diplomats attended there. However, Chinese didn’t explain the fact which was so-called the Nanking Massacre even once during any of these 300 conferences was a statement or announcement.
1937年11月、南京戦の最中、中国国民党はプロパガンダ局を立ち上げた。「プロパガンダ作戦の概要」という秘密文書によると、プロパガンダ局は1937年12月1日から、1938年10月24日までの間、300回を超える報道記者会見を漢江で行っている。約35人の外国人記者や諸外国の外交官も出席した記者会見であったにもかかわらず、中国側は一切南京大虐殺について報道してはいない。
kaito8209 2 months ago
@Davidhaitaopan
(Part2)If there had been slaughter in Nanking of a magnitude so great (300,000 civilian victims) as to prompt the description “holocaust of the century,” there is not the slightest chance that he would have been silent on the matter.
中国共産党率いる毛沢東は南京大虐殺について、一切何も語ってはいない。彼はこの事件が起きたとされる6ヶ月後、Protracted Warという書物の中でこう語っている。日本軍は中国軍を追い詰めてからのツメがあまいと。もし30万人という中国人が殺された南京大虐殺がほんとうに起きたのなら、これは黙っていたはずがないだろう。
kaito8209 2 months ago
The Chinese are really good people? Where have you been living? In a box? They are the scum of the Earth. Nature's greatest mistake.They skin animals alive on the streets of their towns and cities, they are responsible for the final extinction of most species and are still hammering away at what is left. They will ensure that future generations are robbed of species like the tiger, the rhino and of many or all of the Earth's most precious and natural resources.The chinks are not good people!!!!!
Roynsam 2 months ago
@Roynsam
Its inspired from the japanese.
ericji78 2 months ago
@ericji78 (Part2) because this was the sort of stunt their ancestor always pulls.
The other nationalities might aren't beyond the conception such as Chinese style. In short, The Nanking Massacre was a created story by Chinese who had killed nonresistance civilians of Japanese and Koreans in the Tungchow Mutiny. Unmistakably, the Nanking Massacre was based on the Tungchow Mutiny. They took a hint from the mutiny. This is one of evidence shows that the Nanking Massacre was made up story.
kaito8209 2 months ago
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The Nanking Massacre was a false story which was just a rumor creating by China. If the Chinese say the massacre was true story, they should show conclusive evidence. I have written so many Chinese people, but nobody has written the evidence. Nanking believers have appealed the story is true to the world, but it is not indefinite. Moreover, some evidence such as pictures and videos was created by China.
How people can believe the story without evidence?
undertakerRach 2 months ago
my point is the Chinese people are really good people and the Japanese shouldnt have done that. even to many koreans or other asians. However, I think there's an issue w/ the Chinese government....i think there should be a reform within them. but yes as a jap, i agree that japanese were like raging barbarians who just didnt know morals at the time
rorschachnite121 2 months ago
partially i dont agree w/ kaito8209. i believe that Japanese caused many casualties and should compensate for that (im pretty sure they havent fully compensated yet). but i somewhat agree w/ the fact that Chinese people sorta attacks their civilians...but really it's more like the GOVERNMENT, NOT THE PEOPLE who caused harm. for example ,Beijing Olympic..in order to create space for the new stadium....the government destroyed all those houses in Beijing even if people were inside the house.
rorschachnite121 2 months ago
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日本軍は、1937年12月、南京を攻略する必要があった。南京大虐殺に関する日本への起訴状は非常に多様に富んでいる。特にその数字に関しては意見が分かれるところが多い。1938年(翌年)南京避難区の出した書類には49人と記載され、同じく1938年のスマイスの種類には15,790人の被害者と出ている。アイリスチャンは彼女の本、レイプオブナンキンには、なんと30万人だ。
kaito8209 2 months ago
Japanese Army had to capture Nanking in December 1937. The prosecutions presented for this 'Nanking Massacre' have been various, and especially, the number of victims is controversial. According to the Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone, the committee members in China reported to the world about the number of victims in Nanking battle was 49 people in 1938. Mr. Smythe reported 15,760 victims in 1938. Iris Chang said 300,000 in 1997 in her book The Rape of Nanking.
kaito8209 2 months ago
kaito8209 2 months ago
@singaporeshithead
FUCK OFF! Ass Hole
FuckCHNCommunist 2 months ago
CHINA FUCK OFF.....SMALL MEN, STUPID NO CULTURE, COWARDS....I FUCKED MANY OF YOUR WOMEN, BIG SIZE LAND,SMALL SIZE BRAIN AND PENIS AH AH
youpeopleofmonkeys 2 months ago
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1900年代でも中国各地で残酷な拷問や、刑罰、処刑が行われていた。また中国史にも残る清野作戦は、迫り来る敵に補給物資を与えないようにするため、人民の家や街ごと焼き払うような作戦も採られていた。
アメリカ人、ラルフタウンゼントは1930年に中国にいた人物だ。彼はこう言っている。『中国で行われている処刑法の一つに、人間を裸にし動けないように縛り上げ、非常に鋭利なとげを持つサボテンの近くにつるし上げる。中国南部に生育しているそのサボテンは生長がものすごく早く、1日か2日でその男の体に食い込んでいくのである。』
それだけではない。中国には様ざまな残酷な拷問法がある。人権蹂躙とも言えるこれらは中国ではお家芸だ。清野作戦においても1938年にはChangshaという市で、3万人の中国人が中国人の手によって殺された。日本軍が近づいてもいない市で起こったことだ。支那戦争中、中国人兵士はまるで虫を殺すかのように、中国人民を殺してきた。中国政府のこの残酷な処刑の発想や殺し方、そして宣伝のやり方は天才的である。中国人はこれらの残忍な処刑や虐殺は日本軍がやったものだと宣伝している。
kaito8209 2 months ago
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@kaito8209
Civilian casualties by Japan's own aggressions and atrocities in Asia and the Pacific are:
- Japan's own: Only 0.5~1 millions
- Asian countries: 10~19 millions
(China: 7~16 millions, French Indo-China: 1~1.5 millions, Philippines: 0.5~1 millions, Korea: 380,000~480,000, Burma: 250,000, Malaya: 100,000, Portuguese Timor: 40,000~70,000, Singapore: 50,000, South Pacific Mandate: 57,000, Papua New Guinea: 6,500, and etc.)
Who are the real victims here? Go figure.
youngk9lover 2 months ago 18
■ (Part2) “One of these was tying a victim immovable and unclothed over a freshly sprouting bed of thorny cactus which is said to grow very rapidly in south China, and with great force, so that sharp spines with which in breaks through the sod pierce upward as it grows and gradually penetrate the helpless man’s body in the course of a day or two”. Not only that, there were many styles of cruel tortures in China. Violation of human rights is Chinese forte.
kaito8209 2 months ago
■ (Part1) China has claimed. In fact, so many cruel tortures, punishments and executions were conducted in everywhere in China by Chinese government in 1900’s. Moreover, In Chinese history, Chinese soldiers destroyed civilian’s homes and a town in order to wipe out any possible supplies or shelter that could be utilized by the over-extended enemy troops. This strategy is called "The Clean Field Strategy" by China.
American Rulph Townsend stayed in China in 1930. He said,
kaito8209 2 months ago
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When Japanese soldiers killed people (men. women and children), they used all kinds of methods humanly imaginable, such as shooting, bayoneting, beheading, killing with bamboo spears, burying alive, beating to death, hanging, setting on fire, running over by trucks, and you name it. That's why Japanese used to be called "human animals" throughout Asia during and after WW2.
youngk9lover 2 months ago 21
@youngk9lover
■ (Part3) Chinese soldiers killed 30,000 their own people in cold blood in Changsha in 1938 under the Clean Field Strategy even though Japanese didn’t reach the city. During the Shino-Japanese war, Chinese military killed Chinese people as if they were a worm. Chinese government was a genius to conceive cruel tortures and killing ways, and at propaganda. They said that the Japanese must have done with these cruel tortures and massacres.
kaito8209 2 months ago
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@kaito8209 what?if u don't know the truth ,please shut up ! History never can change !!
helloboysization 2 months ago
@youngk9lover Russians and germans do that too to each other. Thats War... :( but the dance was nice!
Keylen 1 month ago
@youngk9lover western propaganda always portrayed their enemies as diabolical,
There is no such propaganda about what soviet soldiers did in poland,germany,baltic states or bombing Entirely civilian people in germany(dresden bombings),Not even mention about how china treating Uygurs and tibetians today.,or what americans did horrible things in vietnam,iraq and afghanistan.
History written by Winners,looser always doomed and ridiculed,
schattenfaust 1 month ago
@schattenfaust
Yes - u r right!Crime where done at all sides & r all terrible enough & deserve military courts.
For example to bomb Tokyo with phosphor bombs, these wooden city at this days,cost 100.000 people in Tokyo their lives.
This happend in just one night, imagine an other "liberating 1000bomber raid" every day & night over Japan and Germany..
..in a 12 billion army like the Wehrmacht some single men could get crazy about own burned family and dont make any prisoners.
AntoniusMUC 1 month ago
@AntoniusMUC if we insist to examine theese war as a member of nation instead of a humanbeing we always miss the idea of what is make us humankind.
Japan,German,american,russian,chinese no matter which nationality you belong all wars are civil wars always civilians getting killed and majority of the killers get away with it.
schattenfaust 1 month ago
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@schattenfaust
, Britain
BraceNemesiz 1 month ago
@youngk9lover Han tribe Chinese is the only race which has habit of eating human for thousands of years, and Korean is the only race which has habit of eating human shit as far as I know. These two races have culture of telling lies to cheat some advantages. There is no country in Asia which disgrace Asian people but China and Korea.
moontokyo 1 month ago
@moontokyo
Japs are the only tribes who have practiced the Yobai culture for over 1000 years. Until quite recently in rural Japan, Yobai would have been an introduction to sex for many young Japs. There is no country in Asia which disgrace Asian people but Japs.
youngk9lover 1 month ago
@youngk9lover I think you never had fun with ladies. Go out side and try to find a girl friend. Virgin boy should not talk about Sexual matters.
moontokyo 1 month ago
@moontokyo
Making unrelated comment? I always have fun while I work. I simply rebutted your comment. Bye Jap.
youngk9lover 1 month ago
@youngk9lover It seems that my suggestion that you are a virgin boy is correct. For the sake of virgin boy, I teach you. Yobai means that a man to visit secretly a girlfriend house at night to have fun. Trolling on the net does not give you a girlfriend. Go outside.
moontokyo 1 month ago
@moontokyo where did u get that shit i have never heard, read or seen such article don't think ur so high and mighty with ur faulty accusations u can't deny what ur people did and another thing china is a disgrace? look at ur own culture and what they did japan is the only asian country that has committed genocide against all other so shut the fuck up be glad that u are alive today not a nuked mutated thing think twice before posting lies
051883313737 1 month ago
@051883313737 Read old Chinese books. There are many stories which suggest Han tribe Chinese ate humans habitually for pursuing taste of food. Read old Korean books. There are also many books which are written about how to eat human shit. I'm serious.
moontokyo 1 month ago
@youngk9lover Absolutely right my friend.Both my Father and Uncle were airman in the RAAF and were paid to shoot these cunts during the Pacific war. My Father survived the war but my Uncle was shot down,captured and beheaded by these cunts. Me? I'd shoot the little yellow bastards for FREE!
Flamstop 1 month ago
@Flamstop
Agree 100%. I spit on japan and refuse to consciously buy anything japanese. We have to remember all the men who paid the ultimate price. The Arizona still leaks oil yet its good to see the Mighty Mo there at Pearl as a reminder that we kicked the sh*t out of those mindless nips
goodoldrebel8 1 month ago
@goodoldrebel8 The japs lacked the human,natural resources and industrial might of the US so they'd lost before they'd even started.....thats basic math.We could not possibly have beaten the japs alone so I am very grateful indeed for the massive sacrifices made by the US during the Pacific and European wars.
Flamstop 1 month ago
@Flamstop
Mao was a loyal ally in ww2 unlike the soviets. Its a shame that we supported the fascist, corrupt inhumane, Kuomintang. Look at how many taiwanese were murdered when chiang kai shek got his ass kicked off the mainland & forced himself on that island. We made the same mistake in vietnam by supporting a corrupt government. Anyway, we were phobic about the word 'communism' and weren't able to distinguish from the russians, chinese, n. koreans or n.vietnamese form of communism.
goodoldrebel8 1 month ago
@Flamstop
Australia, Canada and USA are natural allies. By the way "Scapegoats of the Empire" has always been one of my favorite reads. You know that story-- the Boar War etc.
goodoldrebel8 1 month ago
@Flamstop If we supported Mao instead of the Nationalists, the nips would have been so bogged down in China that no way they would have had the resources to launch an attack on Australia or even New Guinea for that matter. Mao's army eventually beat back the nips. Its bizarre that we supported the nationalists as chiang kai shek's son was an officer in the nazi kraut army. You can see pictures of him all dressed up as a nazi. The nationalists didn't really want to fight the nips
goodoldrebel8 1 month ago
youngk9lover 2 months ago 4
(Part2) and 9,160 death tolls due to the brutal treatments in the rural area of Nanking - Jiangning. This is all but impossible to prove 300,000 massacred. In addition, these figures do not specify who were the offenders. The number of deaths, therefore, has not been specified as to whether they were the soldier's deaths or the ones due to the battles, or the victims of the 'Scorched earth operation' practiced by the Chinese Army or the victims due to unlawful acts of the Chinese deserters.
kaito8209 2 months ago
(Part1)There is what is called Smythe's Investigation. This is the investigation of the war damage in Nanking made by Lewis S. C. Smythe, professor of Sociology, Nanking University and his Chinese assistants.According to the Smythe's Investigation, the personal injury among civilians in the urban area is totaled to l5,760. Among them, 2,400 death tolls due to the brutal treatments and 4,200 taken away (those who were taken away were considered dead) in the urban area,
kaito8209 2 months ago
those japanese screams are so annoying. We beat jap nips in schoool for fun. Weak fuckers with small penis can't defend themselves. hahahhaa japanese nips so weak. I could take on 20 of you slit eye cunts. hahahahaa
Pr1vateToX 2 months ago
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This is a made-up story by China. B-class film like Honkong Kung-Fu movie. Nonsense! fuck China! 糞映画
FuckCHNCommunist 2 months ago
@youngk9lover
As I thought, You are an Animal inhaviting in AU.
FuckCHNCommunist 2 months ago
i believe most of japanese who's been involved in the war were victims themselves, but the bloodthirty culture ofjapanese is what scares the world.
paliwoo 2 months ago
JosephineShelley =Are you a kangaroo? ASSHOLE
FuckCHNCommunist 2 months ago
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JosephineShelley 2 months ago
@FuckCHNCommunist
FUCK YOU!! YOU'RE THE KANGAROO DIPSHIT
JosephineShelley 2 months ago
These Japanese officers were eventually found guilty and hanged when they were trialled in Tokyo and Nanking so it shows that in the end with truth in our hands, the foe shall be overcome.
Who cares for some bloody Englishmen
JosephineShelley 2 months ago
Ways That Are Dark ~The truth about China Ralph Townsend
If a jury of the most experienced Americans or Englishmen in China today were asked to name the most prominent characteristic in the Chinese mentality as opposed to our own, I think most if not all of them would unhesitatingly answer, “lying." In the West we scarcely know anything about lying. We are rank amateurs.
もしアメリカ人やイギリス人に中国人の性格でもっとも突起したものを一つあげるとしたら、なんと答えるだろうか。私はほとんど全員がこう言うと思う。「嘘つきだ。」我々西洋にも確かに嘘はある。しかし我々のレベルは彼らのアマチュアの領域を出ることはない。
kaito8209 2 months ago
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≪下記訳≫
≪日本軍は捕虜殺害という方針だったか?≫
朝香宮中将の「捕虜殺害命令」というのは、デービッド・バーガミニが『天皇の陰謀』(一九七一年)という本で主張したことだが、その内容は、アメリカの歴史家たちから大きな疑問を投げかけられている。
たとえば、アメリカン大学名誉教授リチャード・フィンは、アイリス・チャン著『ザ・レイプ・オブ・南京』に関連して、「朝香宮やその参謀が、『捕虜はすべて殺せ』という、かの悪名高い命令を発したという、信頼に足る証拠もない」と指摘している
また、スタンフォード大学歴史学部長デビツド・ケネディは『アトランティック・マンスリー』一九九八年四月号に寄稿して次のように述べている。
「バーガミニは、明らかに奇抜な論点に基づいて書かれた自著『天皇の陰謀』(一九七一年)で、南京虐殺とその他の残虐行為を正面から天皇ヒロヒトの責任であると決めつけようとした。しかし(アイリス・)チャンは『不幸にして、バーガミニの著作は定評ある歴史家たちの痛烈な批判を浴びている』点を認めざるを得なかった。
kaito8209 2 months ago
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kaito8209 2 months ago
(Part2) "She referred to that notorious order for Prince ASAKANOMIYA and his staff to 'kill all POWs', but her statement was of no reliable evidence."
For another example, David M. Kennedy, the chief of history department of Stanford University, contributed to the Atlantic Monthly (April 1998), and demonstrated his opinion as follows: She [Iris Chang] is clearly tempted to argue that the Rape of Nanking resulted from formal political decisions taken at the highest levels,
kaito8209 2 months ago
《Did the Japanese Army have a policy of killing POWs? 》
(Part1)Prince ASAKANOMIYA's 'order for killing POWs' was referred to in Japan's Imperial Conspiracy (New York, William Morrow and company, Inc., 1971) by David Bergamini. However, American historians pointed out that the contents of this book were greatly suspicious.
For example, Richard Finn, Emeritus Professor of American University, criticized Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking saying,
kaito8209 2 months ago
(Part3) an argument whose virtually lone proponent is the historian David Bergamini, whom Chang repeatedly cites.
In a decidedly eccentric book, Japan's Imperial Conspiracy (1971), Bergamini tried to lay the blame for Nanjing and much else squarely at the feet of Emperor Hirohito. Chang is obliged to concede that "unfortunately, Bergamini's book was seriously criticized by reputable historians.
kaito8209 2 months ago
Wow.... Animals from Japan. Disgusting.
youngk9lover 2 months ago
@youngk9lover FUCK OFF
FuckCHNCommunist 2 months ago
@youngk9lover
worst, feces i reckon.
JosephineShelley 2 months ago
THIS IS A MADE-UP STORY. NONSENSE
jq6uhb 2 months ago
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This is a made-up story by China. B-class film like Honkong Kung-Fu movie. Nonsense! fuck China! 糞映画
FuckCHNCommunist 2 months ago
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jq6uhb 2 months ago
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"This is a made-up story. Nonsense! fuck China!"
I strooooooooooooongly suppout this comment!!!!
FuckCHNCommunist 3 months ago
Part2)The Chinese government has announced that all of these victims were massacred by the Japanese even though they killed many Chinese people. The Chinese government used a clever trick which was called Chinese propaganda during the war. They are an expert on lies, Ralph Townsend said.
中国の歴史では中国軍が人民の家や辺り一帯を焼き払う清野作戦というものがある。事実、中国人兵士達は、日本軍が近づいてもいないChangshaという街を、清野作戦の元1938年に無残にも焼き払っている。
中国人兵士が殺してるのにもかかわらず、中国政府はこれらの犠牲者を日本軍の蛮行として宣伝しているのである。ラルフタウンゼントは彼らは嘘つきのエクスパートであると本に書いている。
FuckCHNCommunist 3 months ago
@FuckCHNCommunist
Ralph Townsend has no creditbilities because he was a Japanese agent work for Japan's interests.A liar says others are experts of lies, how funny it is.
Thak11 2 months ago
@Thak11 NO BASIS NO EVIDENCE
FuckCHNCommunist 2 months ago
@FuckCHNCommunist
Can you count the number of dead bodies of Japanese killed by the atomic bomb in Hiroshima ?
Thak11 2 months ago
@Thak11
Had Japanese Military Army used A-Bomb on Nanking? ASSHOLE!
Who could believe such incredible testimonies that 200,000 corpses left no traces?
======NO EVIDENCE======FALSE CHARGE====== You stupid.
jq6uhb 2 months ago
@jq6uhb
I mean were the casualties in Hiroshima and Nagasaki non-existent simply because you cannot count the complete number of bodies , this is the same case with Nanking Massacre because a lot of dead bodies were not buried but dumped into Yantze river and were burned into ashes.
Thak11 2 months ago
@FuckCHNCommunist
Japanese are lying fucking bitches; they are trying to say Pearl Harbor never happened. FUCK YOU. We should of used all 3 A-Bombs.
hittingstick 2 months ago
@hittingstick FUCK OFF CHINK
FuckCHNCommunist 2 months ago
@hittingstick who said Pearl Harbor never happened? it is historical truth that it happened. I believe non of japanese think like that.
misomasa328 2 months ago
Part1)In Chinese history, Chinese soldiers destroyed the homes and fields of their own civilians in order to wipe out any possible supplies or shelter that could be utilized by the over-extended enemy troops. This strategy is called "The Clean Field Strategy" by China. In fact, Chinese soldiers killed 30,000 their own people in cold blood in Changsha in 1938 under this strategy in spite of the fact that the Japanese didn’t attack the city.
FuckCHNCommunist 3 months ago
Why Chinese government edited at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum?
Why Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000 when the IMTFE was opened?
Where were 300,000 of dead bodies?
Why many Chinese people came back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre?
You should show me your conclusive evidence.
FuckCHNCommunist 3 months ago
@FuckCHNCommunist
What about hundreds and thousands of genuine pictures that evidenced the Nanking massacre which you don't mention?
The IMTFE gave the verdict that at least 200,000 Chinese both civilians and POWs were murdered in Nanking on the first 6 weeks of Japanese occupation, what else do you want ?
Burial records by charitable societies could account to 270,000 bodies in one theory, some of these societies were commissioned and paid by the Japanese authorities..
Thak11 2 months ago
@Thak11
The Chinese govt did not pay Harold Timperley for writing " What War Means" which was a compilation of his own reports published in the Guardian of UK earlier.
Since the book was a factual description of Japanese war crimes in Nanking , KMT found it useful to expose Japanese atrocities in order to get international help for the war against Japan, so KMT bought the right of translation of the book into Chinese only.
Thak11 2 months ago
@Thak11
According to the document under the title of 'Outline of International Propaganda' preserved in Taiwan, the Chinese Nationalist Ministry of Information considered "What are means" was a propaganda book.
Moreover, He was a advisor to the Chinese Nationalist Ministry of Information.
=============Don't talk RUBBISH===================
Read 'TOP-SECRET CHINESE NATIONALIST DOCUMENTS REVEAL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE NANKING INCIDENT' by Higashinakano
What kind!
jq6uhb 2 months ago
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@Thak11 According to the document under the title of 'Outline of International Propaganda' preserved in Taiwan, the Chinese Nationalist Ministry of Information considered "What are means" was a propaganda book. Moreover, He was a advisor to the Chinese Nationalist Ministry of Information.
=============Don't talk RUBBISH===================
Read 'TOP-SECRET CHINESE NATIONALIST DOCUMENTS REVEAL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE NANKING INCIDENT' by Higashinakano
What kind!
jq6uhb 2 months ago
@Thak11 According to "burital lists" submitted to the IMTFE, the Advance Benevolnce Society had buried 112,226 and the Red Swastika Society had buried 43,071, respectively. Total 112,226. (You are WRONG) ============ Where were remains? If the bodys were burned without leaving any trace as you said, how Charitable Society had counted the bodies? ====== CONTRADICTION ===== NO EVIDENCE====== You stupid.
jq6uhb 2 months ago
@jq6uhb
Those bodies dumped into Yantze river and burned into ashes were not counted yet. What about the bodies buried by Lok Sin Tong and other Nanking citizens individually?
Thak11 2 months ago
(Part3) Also, the figure of those taken by force has contained those who might have been released later, or some who were taken by force by the Chinese Army as a militiaman or a civilian war worker.
《スマイス教授の綿密な現地調査》
南京市街地での、民間人の人的被害は、暴行による死者2,400、拉致4,200(拉致されたものはほとんど死亡したものとしている)、さらに南京周辺部(江寧県)での暴行による死者は9,160で、合計15,760人が一般市民の被害ということになり少なくとも30万大虐殺説は成り立たない。
しかも、この数字は「犯人」を特定しない数字であり,このなかには、戦闘員としての戦死、戦闘行為の巻き添えによる死亡、中国軍の「堅壁清野作戦」などによる被害、退却中国兵の不法行為による死亡なども含まれる。拉致のなかには、後に帰還したもの、中国軍による強制的な民兵・軍夫の徴用も含まれる。
kaito8209 2 months ago
@Thak11
In addition that there did not exist the formal documents 'ordering to kill all POWs,' the existing formal documents had been saying clearly contrary to the accusation. Therefore, there was absolutely no ground for such criticism that 'the Japanese Army's policy was to kill all POWs from the beginning.'
「捕虜をすべて殺害せよ」とする公式文書は存在しない上、公式文書にそれとは逆のことを明示している以上、「日本軍は初めから捕虜を殺害する方針だった」との非難は全く成り立たない。
kaito8209 2 months ago
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FuckCHNCommunist 3 months ago
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(Part1)In Chinese history, Chinese soldiers destroyed the homes and fields of their own civilians in order to wipe out any possible supplies or shelter that could be utilized by the over-extended enemy troops. This strategy is called "The Clean Field Strategy" by China. In fact, Chinese soldiers killed 30,000 their own people in cold blood in Changsha in 1938 under this strategy in spite of the fact that the Japanese didn’t attack the city.
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Why Chinese government edited at least 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum?
Why Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000 when the IMTFE was opened?
Where were 300,000 of dead bodies?
Why many Chinese people came back to Nanking after Japanese occupied the city?
Why Chinese government paid money to Harold Timperley for writing book What War Means which was written about so-called the Nanking Massacre?
You should show me your conclusive evidence.
undertakerRach 3 months ago
nuke nips one more time
right2left2 3 months ago
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@right2left2
(Part2)The Chinese government has announced that all of these victims were massacred by the Japanese even though they killed many Chinese people. The Chinese government used a clever trick which was called Chinese propaganda during the war. They are an expert on lies, Ralph Townsend said.
中国の歴史では中国軍が人民の家や辺り一帯を焼き払う清野作戦というものがある。事実、中国人兵士達は、日本軍が近づいてもいないChangshaという街を、清野作戦の元1938年に無残にも焼き払っている。
中国人兵士が殺してるのにもかかわらず、中国政府はこれらの犠牲者を日本軍の蛮行として宣伝しているのである。ラルフタウンゼントは彼らは嘘つきのエクスパートであると本に書いている。