@AtheistDaddy You know all about "isolated sob-story examples", don't you? I've even heard some fools parroting "Socialism works in Denmark" so we should just dive in headfirst here in the USA, got me? As soon as you bring up the FACT that socialist goverments are the worst for mass murderers of non-combatents throughout history, they tuck tail and hide. If you want to discuss data, why don't you discuss DEBT ie generational theft. I think it's cuz you have nothing to offer RE: real answers.
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Corporate greed would gladly pay you $3.00 an hour, no benefits, and require unlimited working. At least the government does things with good intentions even if they don't always work out. It's nice to see a Republican actually use evidence no matter how ridiculous it is. Normally, logical thinking comes out of Democrats. Obama 2012!!
@karozans Yeah...your right...worker's rights are'nt important. Give me a break. Keep voting against your own interests. Have fun the next four years.
@karozans More people making higher wages is in everyones' interest. Especially skilled labor. Individuals won't be able to purchase whatever BS your selling without making a large enough income. Wages are falling, hours worked are going up, and Americans get less vacation time than every other civilized country. All of which lead to higher stress, depression, and medical costs. Not to mention strain on families and education. A more lucrative working class helps everyone, even your business.
So tomorrow if every business in the USA increases their workers salary to 1 million dollars per year they will also have to increase the price of their goods and services by a certain percentage in order to pay their employees.
So now a McDonald's hamburger went from $8 to $8000 and you are back at square 1.
If you don't like your job then quit and find a better one.
If you can't find a better one, open your own business.
@karozans Paying people more has been proven beneficial by the hundreds of cities built around well paying blue collar and white collar jobs with large corporations. Market competition is what drives prices down. If Mcdonald's charges $8,000 for a hamburger, then Burger King would come in and charge $5,000 for a hamburger and so on. It seems like you'd understand that basic concept. Paying people less while prices inflate is bad. That's what is happening right now.
@karozans Obviously individual businesses don't want to pay too much. Their goal is to maximize profit by having low costs while increasing value to customers. That's why it's the governments' job to regulate them in order to make the best standard of living for the country. That's why we have a minimum wage. Individual companies are'nt concerned with the big picture and don't make decisions around how their wages can adversely effect other businesses. However, the government can regulate.
Really??? Can you please name the scientific studies that "prove" this?
And they must be scientific studies by reputable scientific organizations. Liberal think-tanks won't do.
You're absolutely right market competition drives down prices as far as they possibly can go. The problem is how much it costs to deliver a hamburger to a customer. If it costs McDonald's $5000 to deliver a hamburger to someone they can't charge $4999.99 for the hamburger could they???
I understand that the reason why wages are going down as inflation goes up is not the fault of the private sector. It's the fault of government.
When government imposes a tax on a business, businesses simply pass it on to their customers or rearrange their business in such a way that the owner gets what he/she wants. Maybe the business fires everyone and closes up shop.
Tell me. How well of a job is government doing at this regulation you speak of?
Last time I checked GE got out of $4B in taxes because they are buddies with Obama. Last time I checked Solyndra hauled ass with $500M of your tax dollars because they bought politicians. And you think that the answer to these problems is to make government bigger and more powerful??? Are you insane???
You're problem is that you are so greedy that you overlook the simplest form of....
@karozans I meant to DISLIKE your "comment" (or should I say: ignorant drivel) NOT like it. My phone's buttons are so small I accidentally hit 'like' instead of dislike, & couldn't change it for some reason.
Money regulates private enterprise better than any government ever could.
Minimum wage keeps poor people from entering the work force to gain skills to get higher paying jobs. PS. Only 7% of the work force in the US makes minimum wage.
Sorry man, but I am not going to pay someone $12 an hour to sweep floors. I'll do it myself and save a bundle.
"Individual companies are'nt concerned with the big picture "
@karozans cont. n to their competitors and what's in their own interests, but could care less about how their actions are going to effect other businesses in different industries. Minimum wage does'nt keep people from working. Many people go from one job to another and without making enough to afford some kind of education or training will never make it out of that income range. I know your not going to pay someone $12.00 an hour to sweep the floors. However, skilled labor shou
The last time I checked, businesses had to look at the "big picture" because if they didn't they would lose money hand over fist and go out of business.
The bottom line is that you are controlled by fear, greed, envy, and the lust for power over your fellow human beings. People aren't going to let you control them. Either they will move away when you create too many laws or they will go to war with you.
Where are you going to find these angels to run your government?
@karozans Okay so you pointed out some mistakes that government has made. What about the numerous cases of the private sector participating in price fixing, antitrust, health care fraud, pollution, violating product safety laws, unsafe working environments, and etc.. All those take a major toll on your wallet too. They have way more government regulation in European countries and yet they have greater social mobility and much better education. Private sector companies pay attentio
@karozans d make more. The problem is that the private sector has been driving wages down through free market competition and we are'nt seeing enough value given to people with training and education. People are being underminded by companies and individuals with money that bribe politicians because they don't want to pay higher wages. Right to work states in the south are underminding union states in the north. You support that because why should those workers in the north make
@karozans so much money. It's a ridiculous notion. Whatever, keep voting Republican and these problems are only going to get worse. The political pendulum is only moving more and more to the left anyways. People are getting more and more educated.
You're right. I don't know you, but I know your type.
When you can't beat your opponent you dismiss them, saying they just don't understand you. This is very common among the Left-wing lemmings.
Again you are right. I don't pose a threat to you, but you pose a threat to America and American freedom. So you are the enemy of people who love freedom and that should have you very afraid. If you aren't, then that demonstrates that you are the brainwash slave. Not I.
@karozans You are goof full of so-called conservative rhetoric and general bullshit. You must be dismissed since you have nothing of substance to contribute....
@karozans first said - When you can't beat your opponent you dismiss them, saying they just don't understand you. This is very common among the Left-wing lemmings.
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then you said - I have destroyed you.
Go away and lick your wounds.
You have been utterly decimated and defeated.
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Self contradictory statements that demonstrate your simple stupidity.....
Exactly. The Union bosses lied to you and made you think you had workers rights in order to keep you under their thumb and in their control.
They say "jump" and you say "how high".
See, people like me are smart enough and hard working enough to keep a job biased upon my own merits. I don't need a mob to protect me. Only lazy and terrible workers need Unions.
Also just because "worker rights" were in a contract doesn't mean that they exist.
@karozans WOW you are really & truly a BRAINWASHED moron.
P.S. - I don't know WTF is wrong with You Tube & not letting you change it if you accidentally hit like instead of dislike (or vice-versa) because I accidentally hit the like button because my damn phone buttons are too damn small. There is no way in hell I would "like" ANY of your ignorant brainwashed rantings.
Why do think every city in america, in the world really ,has been training their police force for rioting? Look at all the special equipment they have "just in case". A shit storm is coming and the powers that be are planning for it.
Did anyone watch this video? THis proves that increasing taxes does FUCK ALL for our budget, just admit you have to cut spending to not just the military and take your facts like a man.
@geezusispan Why just the rich? Why not all the Jews too? Or all the Blacks? We can just take any group of people that someone can disparage and blame their failures on and execute them. Nazi much?
@hulsey1976 A very small percentage of people own more wealth than the entire lower 50%. I think killing them would help out all the rest of us. Why don't you?
@geezusispan yeah history is my favorite subject, i dont think killing people because they are successful capitalists is the solution to everything, that's immoral, if anything revolt against the government who is favoring the big corporations and putting restrictions on the economy
@gt3cupcar93 Wall Street and the banksters that own our government should be "removed". Our totally corrupt government needs a fresh start, a new system not just new players. Killing the rich would be a good start for real change.
@geezusispan i agree that wall street is corrupt and its primarily the governments fault, we need to get rid of the crony capitalist system we have, quit with the government favoritism, and get the government out of the economy, but i dont think we need to kill all investors at wall street
@geezusispan Because I now wealth isn't a fixed amount. Me having a full head of hair isn't making someone else bald, and rich people being rich isn't making other people poor.
@geezusispan Why don't I? Because money doesn't justify murder, because if I want "stuff" I can work for it and have it without killing for it, because the truth is if most of those bottom 50% controlled that wealth they would waste it - it would not be as productive in the economy as it currently is, which is probably why they never controlled it to begin with, or maybe because I know that wealth is a temporary illusion and I have better things to do that spend my time being jealous of others.
What you just stated is that the US can't stop borrowing money! Amazing how much I learned in this vid! Raise taxes and the economy shrinks even more. You have proven why us preppers prep and why non preppers are all range targets in the US. In the UK, just grab some rocks, no weapons for pussies. Ya gave em up sooo easily! In fascism when a government falters it takes the economy with it because government is the main job creator. Everything else is blah, blah and.... ...oh yeah... blah.
I think this guy is missing the point. we can't retroactively correct Bush's "Right-Wing" spending, but we can fix his screwups by investing in our infrastructure. And in order to fund that, we have to tax more. I am so sick of these idiots spewing that the rich are going to fix our economy by this "trickle down" effect (which has never helped), and cutting spending on all of these "socialist" programs like; the DOD, the USPS, Medicare, Medicaid, SS, DOT, IRS, ETC. WE NEED THESE SERVICES MORONS.
No matter how much you spin it and skew the numbers, we cannot fund a country without taxing. And the fact that the rich pay a less percentage of their earnings than you and I do should sicken you. Instead, you right-wing folks back them up and act as if they care about you. They don't.
@natemcrae54 No, we can't fix it with "infrastructure" spending, Obama tried that last year and it didn't help. And we didn't need all these, yes socialistic, programs before 1913 and we don't now.
@NAdducci09 It takes more than a year to fix this country. And actually, GM turned around from near bankrupcy to being the number one selling auto maker in a little over two years because of government spending. And believe it or not, America was a poor, country with very few paved roads before 1913. Taxes created this awesome country of ours and they are the only way to fix it.
@UnitedCorpOfAmerica I wouldn't object. That's how countries fund important projects and programs. You shouldn't object either if you love this country.
@UnitedCorpOfAmerica They should not raise taxes, raising taxes only gives the rich one more reason not to do their business in this country, do you think it's worth risking countless jobs in raising taxes? In America they pay 50% in taxes if you play it fair, which hardly anyone does because that is completely stupid and outrageous to earn half of the dollar you should have earned to begin with, This is why money gets trapped overseas.
@NAdducci09 Think about it for just a minute. In the '90's, we were the richest counrty in the world with OTHER COUNTRIES coming to us and borrowing money. Then several idiots voted Bush in TWICE, and he and his congress deregulated everything, set up oil as a commodity (as well as your mortgage) and cut taxes for the rich, and now we are falling behind and owe OTHER COUNTRIES money. It has been proven that we cannot fix our country without infrastructure spending and tax cuts.
@natemcrae54 Set oil up as a commodity? Did he? Are you sure that wasn't Clinton when he signed into law the Commodities and Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which DEREGULATED naked oil speculation? FYI, oil has always been commoditized, not just when Bush was Prez. And mortgage backed securities came into existence under Clinton as well. I'm all for bashing Bush and his stupid policies, but before you do, learn.
I remember a time when I didn't know a single person that did not have a job, in the last five years out of the 30 or so people I know about 10 of them have jobs. Hard working people who's jobs just went away, can someone please explain how this happened.
Obviously, bone head when I said the government allowed in these immigrants to keep wages low for business, I was speaking of illegal immigrants. Your vision is too narrow to see what is really going on.
@geezusispan Not obvious at all. See, the government doesn't allow them in. The government has fences, Obama has increased the border guard, etc.We don't want illegals, especially not conservatives.
Like I said your vision is TOO narrow. The government has allowed illegal immigration at least since the 60s. How else could there be 12 million living here? Try to think...
@geezusispan Yes, but it is becoming harder and harder for illegals to get in here, even if the gov't finds it immoral to deport these people. Since 2005, illegal immigration has decreased 67%, from 850,000 a year to 300,000 annually. It's all from Pew, look it up yourself
@TheMoron64 My wife was a Legal Aid attorney, illegal immigrants were in court all the time. None were ever deported. The government allowed them to stay.
@MichaelPolios Slash spending dramatically. This video proves that the government can't possibly tax enough to pay for everything - so they need to stop paying for so much.
Just stop immigration completely. Immigration is a better deal for the companies so they have a bigger pool to higher from, and for the immigrants themselves who come from worse off places. But immigration is always a worse deal for the average people living in a developed country. So why the fuck is immigration happpening when it should be against the wishes of the majority in any country like Britain, Australia, etc?
@Floodlezoot That has got to be the most flawed logic I have seen in my life. So what you are saying is that you don't like immigration because it forces you to work harder for a job, and as a result, the government should stop it entirely? You do know that every person anywhere is descended from immigrants, right? But because YOU don't want to earn your job, you want to be hired out of necessity, the government should forbid people from moving to a better life?How selfish is that?
We hear the rich Rep's cry that 47% of the population does not pay any federal tax. Well fuck an A the rich do not even pay workers enough to pay federal tax. We need to do what Denmark does and make minimum wage 18 an hour and tax them 40 percent. that is still more then any American minimum wage and the workers all pay federal tax under that system. but the rich refuse to pay real wages. We have to fuckign kill them!
@MrJapper88 I am ready for a war. I am ready to kill the rich and all the illegal scab labor they invaded our nation with. We just need the military on our side.
@MrJapper88 The rich actually value labor quite highly, at least certain types of it. Why should someone who flips burgers all day get a lot of money? Or someone who assembles cars?
The rich are given our resources to manage and this is the best they can do? Import millions of scab illegals and export out best jobs to chink land? We do not need the rich at all. Our economy would be better served if the state ran all business and all our jobs stayed here for real Americans so we can all work and earn a real living wage and be treated well.
@MrJapper88 HAHAHA we would not be better off if the gov't ran our business. They would both pay us and tax us and therefore have total control over us you mindless drone
@TheMoron64 Our jobs would stay here, we are the government, so we would be working of ourselves. We the people. Much better off then working for some evil shit who wants to off shore our jobs to 3rd world child labor camps and import millions of 3rd world shit skin scabs. The rich will have to work for a living as well oh poor babies...
@MrJapper88 Your condescending and resentful tone does nothing to help your flawed logic, if anything it makes you even harder to talk to. The rich don't "import 3rd world shit skin scabs," those immigrants, which is a much more civilized name for them, move here so they can get a better life. And I have already proven to you the rich work even harder than their workers. And the government would have utter control over our jobs and therefore our financial security.
@TheMoron64 Actually the government has allowed the immigrants to come here as cheap labor for business. It's obvious. The rich only work if they want to. Many do not....
@geezusispan OH MY GOD! Why do you keep saying "Allow" when talking about letting in immigrants? It isn't a matter of allowing them. What right does the government have to keep them out? Why was it fine for our ancestors to come, but at THIS point in time, competition is too high? You and Japper, it seems, resent competition so much because it forces you to earn a job and not get handed one. Also, immigrants create demand, which creates new jobs. It's a cycle.
@TheMoron64 Obviously, bone head when I said the government allowed in these immigrants to keep wages low for business, I was speaking of illegal immigrants. Your vision is too narrow to see what is really going on.
@MrJapper88 If the government controls our jobs, then they can force ANYTHING on us under the threat of losing our jobs. We would be powerless to fight the massive entity that is the government, and fighting the government is what America was built on, hence the Bill of Rights giving so much power to the states and individuals. But I guess you just have such utter contempt for those smart and more hard-working than you who are better off that you didn't consider this.
By taking the money of everyone making over $250k, you've already taken all the money from Billy Gates and Warren Buffet + the other 398 members of Forbes' list, right? Redundant and only makes your point stronger.
this is a nightmare 80/20 rule in reverse to the extream. you rich want to solve the problems by going after the 99% that have nothing in this society... fucking idiots. We have under ground economies, drugs prostitution, and the church all need to be taxed. get rid of scab illegals and pay real Americans a living wage so we can all pay the federal taxes of this land. The rich pay workers so shity wages they dont even make enough to pay federal taxes.
No mater what, the rich can cry and think they have it so bad, but they have all the money and 99% have shit. Shit jobs shit pay, shit future... The rich never have it as bad as we do, we do all the work they can have it so good. They want to work us to death, they never want us to retire or enjoy life, they send our best jobs to chink land, and import millions of illegal scabs to keep wages down. fuck the rich.
@geezusispan Oh really? The owners and investors do none of the work? Lets start out by looking at where they got their money to invest or their company to own. The overwhelming majority will have worked their way up for it, and been the best, which is why they are in such a good position. Now, If you think that owners don't do any work, you are sorely mistaken. Let's look at a computer company. The workers are mostly unskilled laborers.
@geezusispan They aren't payed phenomenally well because unskilled labor is in no way valuable and very easily replaceable. Now, the owner of the company is on the hook for deciding every single thing the company does. What divisions to fund, open, or close. How best to advertise. Working out partnerships with other companies such as microchip makers. The work done by the owner requires much more skill than the work of the laborers. It is also more valuable.
@TheMoron64 this is why we have to kill the rich. they work so hard to keep wages low, they do not value labor, this dip shit called it unskilled and is to replace thanks to the off shoring and the illegals scabs they import. the rich have to fuckign die!
@MrJapper88 So you are wiling to kill another individual based on your envy?You are true evil you don't have so you want to destroy those who do.How would society benefit with out the rich
@Cogitatio023 Bible states if you take form form my family and take away my ability to feed and take care of my family that is the same as killing us. We have the moral obligation to set things right, and fucks like you have stated over and over again you will not entertain the idea of paying us a fair living wage. You leave us no choice but to kill them and make things right.
@MrJapper88 No to off shoring bring all jobs back home and kick out every illegals and only allow real Americans to work and all is well. It work great for all of us for the first 200 years of the USA existence.
@MrJapper88 What does the bible say about insulting your neighbor? What does the bible say about helping those worse-off than you? The people who legally immigrate to this country are often much worse off than anyone in America. Now, without offshore jobs, businesses would either go under or charge MUCH more. The business wouldn't eat the cost, they would pass it on to the average person. You just don't get that do you?
@TheMoron64 bull shit. Legal immigration at 1 million a year is far too high, and that is just 2 percent of all the illegals on top of that. do not confuse the two. Business will charge no more then the market can bear. We have 200 years of American history where is all worked perfect, only the last 40 years of this vodo economics has ruined the USA. Kill the rich and let the state run all business the rich will not earn profit off us ever again.
@MrJapper88 Absurd claim. According t the Pew Hispanic Center, 350,00 illegal immigrants enter yearly. IMMACT limits legal immigration 700,000 a year. The USA system, relatively, is quite difficult, when compared to other first world countries. If Government controls both our salaries and taxes, they control everything about us. They can force anything on us under threat of unemployment! And businesses, if unable to raise prices enough to compensate, will go bankrupt!
@MrJapper88 Tell me one rich man who has taken from you?What do you mean by a living wage? people get paid by there value. This is why me as a them park worker make 8 dollars an hr,and my neighbor as an electrical worker makes 40 dollars an hr. his skill his more valuable then mine.
@geezusispan Also, in many cases, though not all, the owner supplied a good chuck of the initial money and took the largest risk, as he guaranteed salaries to workers and might not turn a profit. Moving on to your slightly-more-valid investors comment, no, investors don't do any work for the company. Forgetting the fact that they likely earned their money elsewhere, without investors, new companies would almost never start up or get big.
@geezusispan Investors are vital to capitalism because they allow new companies to rise up and have a fair shot at the old ones. They put in their own money to take a massive risk on a new company, and because their money is what allowed the company to succeed, they get payoffs. Workers take no risk by taking a job. They are guaranteed a salary until the company goes bankrupt.
@TheMoron64 workers sacerfice their entire life energy for the business their sweat blood and tears for the business. only way a company is ever successful is due to the workers and they should get the lion share of the profits not investors that do not do shit. Lincoln told us all 150 years ago Labor is superior to capital. Wake the fuck up.
@geezusispan That is why investors are so sought-after, their risk can be all a company needs to succeed, so they are given a large chunk of the proceeds. Workers, who take no risk and aren't very valuable, get the salary they were GUARANTEED. sorry for the long response
Where in Africa? Maybe you've forgotten that Africa is a continent, with many different countries, each country with its own specific problem.
The reason why 'African' women work hard but have no money is because those parts of the continent are war-torn and heavily regulated by government. Didn't you ever wonder why "Africans" don't just go plant some food if they're that hungry?
That only proves my point even more! 'African women' who work hard don't get 'paid' because of their COUNTRY. America is a place that allows hard work to be rewarded,
@aveyowyns Not true at all. You work hard and in a few years you get a few weeks vacation and a good wage and they lay you off and replace you with a 3rd world illegal and you starve and lose everything. The USA does not value hard work at all. They are seeking everyday possible to grind down wages and pay everyone less and less. The rich loby our leaders 24/7 for news ways to off shore work and import millions of illegals to keep wages super low.
Its simple. The rich earn more money than they need to survive (which they save). That saved money sits in banks or investments accruing interest (from the market) The poor spend their money on goods and services (to survive) stimulating the economy (Businesses owners businesses) Hmmmmm... I wonder who ends up with all the money? Could it be banks and business owners? WOW! What a surprise!
@SquidgyMcGee 1. So you are saying that it is a bad idea to have money on hand in case of emergencies? It is not bad to save money. But who gets to decide how much? It's your money.
2. Rich people don't just live in boxes and hold onto money just because they like having green paper with presidents. They buy Bentleys and houses, and boats, or the smarter ones invest into more opportunities to make more money. Are going to say that investing is bad? take an econ class for god sake.
We need to pay working people a lot more like Denmark does 18 minimum wage and tax them all at 40% so the working poor are allowed to help pay the debt burden and take it off the hands of the rich, but the rich have to pay real living wages and stop using 33rd world illegal scabs.
What good are the rich? they want us to pay the highest possible price for their products but they refuse to pay us a fair living wage, export our best jobs to chink land, and import millions of illegal scabs to grind our wages down. fuck the rich we need to kill these fucking cunts.
Goddamn Amerikkkans...when you have a political system that can be bought for cash you're in for trouble,
I think the rot in this country runs so deep that the only way out is a fucking big financial crash that will take the current usurers out of circulation, the monetary system does not work , we need a new template for commerce.
Did I space out or did he totally forget to subtract all the money the government takes in per year in taxes, tariffs, etc. from the total spending?? Yeah.... so how about you start there..
OK. WELL DONE Iowahawk. This is very clever. I don't think the poor want to liquidate anything (When cornered people get angry) They just want an even share of the money 'as its made'. After all they do a lot of the work and buy businesses products and services. anyway If your going to liquidate such vast amounts of stuff. Who would you sell it to? don't be ridiculous. Average people don't want to cut down the apple tree in the orchard. They just want a greater share of the fruit as its grown.
@SquidgyMcGee What? Grow your own tree! What ever happened to starting your own business or just working hard. I can't believe the entitlement mentality that comes from the left. UHHHH I didn't earn anything, but I deserve more money, because other people are making more than me! That's the most moronic argument I've ever heard. Stop being the victim and just make your own money. I'm so tired of this I'm poor, so someone needs to give me something I really don't deserve shit!
@you831able Well funny you should say that you831able. I am a business owner. My mum was a CEO (retired millionaire) my father is about to sell out of his 2 franchise business he created. I have been purchased my very own business. I am the boss. Not everyone can start a business. Because they are not in the position to. If your so sure you have the answers. You start putting down the poor of this world. because without help they will die. So why don't you put them out of their misery?
@SquidgyMcGee- So you advocate higher taxes? How will higher taxes help you? Will you hire more people when you have less money? My whole family was poor my entire life. I went in the military, got out, and went to school. I worked many different low wage jobs. Now after 25 years of working, I make decent money. Life is what people make it. Yes, everyone besides druggies and handicapped people can start a business or get an education. They just have to work and save.
@you831able Actually i'm just giving my employees a share of the profits of the business. By giving them shares in the company. After all they work their fingers to the bone, spending the duration of their natural lives in service of my organisation. I want them to know that their time with me is appreciated. The more they contribute the more they get. i treat them with the esteem i give myself. Not just as an expendable asset.
@you831able Well funny you should say that you831able. I am a business owner. My mum was a CEO (retired millionaire) my father is about to sell out of his 2 franchise business he created. I have been purchased my very own business. I am the boss. Not everyone can start a business. Because they are not in the position to. If your so sure you have the answers. You start putting down the poor of this world. because without help they will die. So why don't you put them out of their misery?
@you831able Bollocks mate i'm not on any wing. i just see it how it is. If companies treat people so fairly why are they on the verge of revolt? Wake up and smell the smelling salts. You might be able to smell them if you pull your head out your arse
@SquidgyMcGee Did Bill Gates whine like you when he was in his garage planning his empire? Did Henry Ford whine and say " Give me money " Fuck no! Democrats are expecting the government to fight a battle, that really should be fought by the individual through hard work and fiscal responsibilty!
conservatives hate evidence...a.k.a. data.
AtheistDaddy 6 hours ago
@AtheistDaddy You know all about "isolated sob-story examples", don't you? I've even heard some fools parroting "Socialism works in Denmark" so we should just dive in headfirst here in the USA, got me? As soon as you bring up the FACT that socialist goverments are the worst for mass murderers of non-combatents throughout history, they tuck tail and hide. If you want to discuss data, why don't you discuss DEBT ie generational theft. I think it's cuz you have nothing to offer RE: real answers.
FlatEarthHypothesis 1 hour ago
@AtheistDaddy Oh man, you crack me up. You mean, the evidence that Bill just dished out? Er...what...
CorbinAllred 21 minutes ago
Boston Globe article from 2/19/12
Why it matters that our politicians are rich
geezusispan 4 days ago
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Tikiman03 4 days ago
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Corporate greed would gladly pay you $3.00 an hour, no benefits, and require unlimited working. At least the government does things with good intentions even if they don't always work out. It's nice to see a Republican actually use evidence no matter how ridiculous it is. Normally, logical thinking comes out of Democrats. Obama 2012!!
Tikiman03 4 days ago
@Tikiman03
If you keep working for a "greedy" corporation like the one you spoke of, then you are a fool and you deserve far worse.
What are you going to do when the "greedy" corporations decide to move oversees like they have already started doing?
News Flash! Jobs don't belong to you, jobs belong to employers.
Sorry little kid but you won't get your way no matter how big of a temper tantrum you throw.
karozans 4 days ago
@karozans Yeah...your right...worker's rights are'nt important. Give me a break. Keep voting against your own interests. Have fun the next four years.
Tikiman03 4 days ago
@Tikiman03
There is no such thing as "worker rights". That is a term invented by the Liberal elite to keep you under their thumb.
Every time I vote I vote to have smaller government control and I vote for more freedom.
Freedom to choose which employer I work for is in my best interest.
Freedom to open my own business is in my best interest.
Why would I ever open a business and hire someone like you who is going to ruin it with your shoddy workmanship?
karozans 4 days ago
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@karozans More people making higher wages is in everyones' interest. Especially skilled labor. Individuals won't be able to purchase whatever BS your selling without making a large enough income. Wages are falling, hours worked are going up, and Americans get less vacation time than every other civilized country. All of which lead to higher stress, depression, and medical costs. Not to mention strain on families and education. A more lucrative working class helps everyone, even your business.
Tikiman03 4 days ago
@Tikiman03
So tomorrow if every business in the USA increases their workers salary to 1 million dollars per year they will also have to increase the price of their goods and services by a certain percentage in order to pay their employees.
So now a McDonald's hamburger went from $8 to $8000 and you are back at square 1.
If you don't like your job then quit and find a better one.
If you can't find a better one, open your own business.
You haven't thought about this much have you?
karozans 3 days ago
@karozans Paying people more has been proven beneficial by the hundreds of cities built around well paying blue collar and white collar jobs with large corporations. Market competition is what drives prices down. If Mcdonald's charges $8,000 for a hamburger, then Burger King would come in and charge $5,000 for a hamburger and so on. It seems like you'd understand that basic concept. Paying people less while prices inflate is bad. That's what is happening right now.
Tikiman03 3 days ago
@karozans Obviously individual businesses don't want to pay too much. Their goal is to maximize profit by having low costs while increasing value to customers. That's why it's the governments' job to regulate them in order to make the best standard of living for the country. That's why we have a minimum wage. Individual companies are'nt concerned with the big picture and don't make decisions around how their wages can adversely effect other businesses. However, the government can regulate.
Tikiman03 3 days ago
@Tikiman03
Really??? Can you please name the scientific studies that "prove" this?
And they must be scientific studies by reputable scientific organizations. Liberal think-tanks won't do.
You're absolutely right market competition drives down prices as far as they possibly can go. The problem is how much it costs to deliver a hamburger to a customer. If it costs McDonald's $5000 to deliver a hamburger to someone they can't charge $4999.99 for the hamburger could they???
karozans 3 days ago
@Tikiman03
I do understand that basic concept. You don't.
I understand that the reason why wages are going down as inflation goes up is not the fault of the private sector. It's the fault of government.
When government imposes a tax on a business, businesses simply pass it on to their customers or rearrange their business in such a way that the owner gets what he/she wants. Maybe the business fires everyone and closes up shop.
karozans 3 days ago
@Tikiman03
Tell me. How well of a job is government doing at this regulation you speak of?
Last time I checked GE got out of $4B in taxes because they are buddies with Obama. Last time I checked Solyndra hauled ass with $500M of your tax dollars because they bought politicians. And you think that the answer to these problems is to make government bigger and more powerful??? Are you insane???
You're problem is that you are so greedy that you overlook the simplest form of....
karozans 3 days ago
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@karozans I meant to DISLIKE your "comment" (or should I say: ignorant drivel) NOT like it. My phone's buttons are so small I accidentally hit 'like' instead of dislike, & couldn't change it for some reason.
BlakMagikWoman72 5 hours ago
@Tikiman03
...regulation. It's called money.
Money regulates private enterprise better than any government ever could.
Minimum wage keeps poor people from entering the work force to gain skills to get higher paying jobs. PS. Only 7% of the work force in the US makes minimum wage.
Sorry man, but I am not going to pay someone $12 an hour to sweep floors. I'll do it myself and save a bundle.
"Individual companies are'nt concerned with the big picture "
Really???
karozans 3 days ago
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@karozans cont. n to their competitors and what's in their own interests, but could care less about how their actions are going to effect other businesses in different industries. Minimum wage does'nt keep people from working. Many people go from one job to another and without making enough to afford some kind of education or training will never make it out of that income range. I know your not going to pay someone $12.00 an hour to sweep the floors. However, skilled labor shou
Tikiman03 3 days ago
@Tikiman03
The last time I checked, businesses had to look at the "big picture" because if they didn't they would lose money hand over fist and go out of business.
The bottom line is that you are controlled by fear, greed, envy, and the lust for power over your fellow human beings. People aren't going to let you control them. Either they will move away when you create too many laws or they will go to war with you.
Where are you going to find these angels to run your government?
karozans 3 days ago
@karozans Okay so you pointed out some mistakes that government has made. What about the numerous cases of the private sector participating in price fixing, antitrust, health care fraud, pollution, violating product safety laws, unsafe working environments, and etc.. All those take a major toll on your wallet too. They have way more government regulation in European countries and yet they have greater social mobility and much better education. Private sector companies pay attentio
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@karozans d make more. The problem is that the private sector has been driving wages down through free market competition and we are'nt seeing enough value given to people with training and education. People are being underminded by companies and individuals with money that bribe politicians because they don't want to pay higher wages. Right to work states in the south are underminding union states in the north. You support that because why should those workers in the north make
Tikiman03 3 days ago
@Tikiman03
People in government can be bought.
Everyone has a price.
Even you.
karozans 3 days ago
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@karozans so much money. It's a ridiculous notion. Whatever, keep voting Republican and these problems are only going to get worse. The political pendulum is only moving more and more to the left anyways. People are getting more and more educated.
Tikiman03 3 days ago
@karozans YOU don't have to worry about being eaten, we know you are not rich....
geezusispan 3 days ago
@geezusispan
Well duh! If I was rich I wouldn't be talking to a fool like you on the interweb.
I would be on my 30 million dollar yacht with 20 super models living up the good life.
But I have worked for some very wealthy people.
And when you eat those wealthy people I suffer because of your greedy and envy.
Do me a favor, stop taxing my employers so that I can keep my jobs.
Someone who wants to get me fired is not my friend, they are my enemy.
You are my enemy.
karozans 2 days ago
@karozans
You don't know me or even understand half of what I posted here.
You can be my enemy, I don't care, you pose no threat to me at all...You are just another brainwashed slave....
geezusispan 2 days ago
@geezusispan
You're right. I don't know you, but I know your type.
When you can't beat your opponent you dismiss them, saying they just don't understand you. This is very common among the Left-wing lemmings.
Again you are right. I don't pose a threat to you, but you pose a threat to America and American freedom. So you are the enemy of people who love freedom and that should have you very afraid. If you aren't, then that demonstrates that you are the brainwash slave. Not I.
karozans 2 days ago
@karozans You are goof full of so-called conservative rhetoric and general bullshit. You must be dismissed since you have nothing of substance to contribute....
geezusispan 2 days ago
@geezusispan
I am not a Conservative little boy. I am a Libertarian.
I have destroyed you.
Go away and lick your wounds.
You have been utterly decimated and defeated.
karozans 2 days ago
@karozans 1st you said -I am not a Conservative little boy. I am a Libertarian.
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then you said - "Liberals want Conservatives to shut up, and Conservatives want Liberals to keep talking.
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It looks like you are destroying yourself, not me.... You admit you're not rich, so you are defending the rich because you are their lackey.
Pawns like you make me laugh.
geezusispan 2 days ago
@geezusispan
LOL. Man you are tied to the tracks and that stupid train just keeps running over you.
That sentence is called a quote. Do you know what a quote is?
You should go back to 2nd grade and learn what a quote is.
LOL Wow! You are a very stupid person. Seriously. I am laughing at you right now.
I'd rather be a lackey to a rich person than a slave to the federal government like you.
Slaves like you make me laugh.
karozans 2 days ago
@karozans is such an angry little gnat.... hehe
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@geezusispan is such an angry little slave.... hehe
karozans 1 day ago
@karozans says - I'd rather be a lackey to a rich person than a slave to the federal government like you.
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Thanks for your admission, you buffoon!!
geezusispan 2 days ago
@geezusispan
Thanks for your admission, you slave!!
karozans 1 day ago
@karozans
Really? Copy cat comments? I guess i shouldn't expect anything more from you....
pathetic.
geezusispan 1 day ago
@geezusispan
You're right. Slaves should hold their masters to higher standards.
karozans 1 day ago
@karozans is a real rightwad religious fanatic! Not be taken seriously by anyone.
100chemosabe 1 day ago
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@100chemosabe is a real leftwad religious fanatic! Hasen't be taken seriously by anyone.
karozans 23 hours ago
@karozans is douche bagging for jesus! Keep up the good work!
100chemosabe 1 day ago
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@100chemosabe is flee bagging for obama! Please stop your horrible work!
karozans 23 hours ago
@karozans first said - When you can't beat your opponent you dismiss them, saying they just don't understand you. This is very common among the Left-wing lemmings.
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then you said - I have destroyed you.
Go away and lick your wounds.
You have been utterly decimated and defeated.
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Self contradictory statements that demonstrate your simple stupidity.....
geezusispan 2 days ago
@geezusispan
No contradiction here.
I want you to stay right here forever. I enjoy destroying every single of your arguments.
"Liberals want Conservatives to shut up, and Conservatives want Liberals to keep talking."
-Unknown
karozans 2 days ago
@karozans So, it is OK to kill Iraqi children but, not the US rich? You don't know who your real enemy is.....
geezusispan 4 days ago
@geezusispan
It's not okay to kill anyone.
In war time there are certain levels of acceptable collateral damage.
Technology is a wonderful thing. In Iraq the collateral damage was minimized.
You should see videos of the South Koreans napalming a village in Vietnam of innocence women and children.
karozans 3 days ago
@karozans I worked in a factory in the 70s. Worker's rights were written out in the union contract.
geezusispan 4 days ago
@geezusispan
Exactly. The Union bosses lied to you and made you think you had workers rights in order to keep you under their thumb and in their control.
They say "jump" and you say "how high".
See, people like me are smart enough and hard working enough to keep a job biased upon my own merits. I don't need a mob to protect me. Only lazy and terrible workers need Unions.
Also just because "worker rights" were in a contract doesn't mean that they exist.
karozans 3 days ago
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@karozans said - just because "worker rights" were in a contract doesn't mean that they exist.
l hahahahahaha A union contract is legally binding, just like any and all business contracts. How stupid are you?
geezusispan 3 days ago
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@karozans WOW you are really & truly a BRAINWASHED moron.
P.S. - I don't know WTF is wrong with You Tube & not letting you change it if you accidentally hit like instead of dislike (or vice-versa) because I accidentally hit the like button because my damn phone buttons are too damn small. There is no way in hell I would "like" ANY of your ignorant brainwashed rantings.
BlakMagikWoman72 4 hours ago
@Tikiman03
Ron Paul 2012
catsareflyingD8 1 day ago
Why do think every city in america, in the world really ,has been training their police force for rioting? Look at all the special equipment they have "just in case". A shit storm is coming and the powers that be are planning for it.
geezusispan 5 days ago
Did anyone watch this video? THis proves that increasing taxes does FUCK ALL for our budget, just admit you have to cut spending to not just the military and take your facts like a man.
GermanConquistador08 5 days ago
I wish there was a "Love" option on youtube.
gmillerguy 5 days ago
1.5 million children are homeless in the US each year. Americans spend $61 billion on their pets each year. Yeah, America is great all right.....
We don't have to eat the rich, just killing them should sens a message.
geezusispan 5 days ago
@geezusispan Why just the rich? Why not all the Jews too? Or all the Blacks? We can just take any group of people that someone can disparage and blame their failures on and execute them. Nazi much?
hulsey1976 5 days ago
@hulsey1976 A very small percentage of people own more wealth than the entire lower 50%. I think killing them would help out all the rest of us. Why don't you?
geezusispan 5 days ago
@geezusispan so your solution is killing people? your retarded
gt3cupcar93 5 days ago
@gt3cupcar93
The people in power NEVER just hand over that power. It always has to be taken from their cold dead hands..... Have you ever studied any history?
geezusispan 5 days ago
@geezusispan yeah history is my favorite subject, i dont think killing people because they are successful capitalists is the solution to everything, that's immoral, if anything revolt against the government who is favoring the big corporations and putting restrictions on the economy
gt3cupcar93 5 days ago
@gt3cupcar93 Wall Street and the banksters that own our government should be "removed". Our totally corrupt government needs a fresh start, a new system not just new players. Killing the rich would be a good start for real change.
geezusispan 5 days ago
@geezusispan i agree that wall street is corrupt and its primarily the governments fault, we need to get rid of the crony capitalist system we have, quit with the government favoritism, and get the government out of the economy, but i dont think we need to kill all investors at wall street
gt3cupcar93 4 days ago
@geezusispan
You're a psycho that needs to be locked up before you do something insane.
karozans 4 days ago
@geezusispan Because I now wealth isn't a fixed amount. Me having a full head of hair isn't making someone else bald, and rich people being rich isn't making other people poor.
kendaigmj 5 days ago
@geezusispan Why don't I? Because money doesn't justify murder, because if I want "stuff" I can work for it and have it without killing for it, because the truth is if most of those bottom 50% controlled that wealth they would waste it - it would not be as productive in the economy as it currently is, which is probably why they never controlled it to begin with, or maybe because I know that wealth is a temporary illusion and I have better things to do that spend my time being jealous of others.
hulsey1976 5 days ago
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@hulsey1976 you're an idiot.
BlakMagikWoman72 4 hours ago
What you just stated is that the US can't stop borrowing money! Amazing how much I learned in this vid! Raise taxes and the economy shrinks even more. You have proven why us preppers prep and why non preppers are all range targets in the US. In the UK, just grab some rocks, no weapons for pussies. Ya gave em up sooo easily! In fascism when a government falters it takes the economy with it because government is the main job creator. Everything else is blah, blah and.... ...oh yeah... blah.
UnitedCorpOfAmerica 6 days ago
Michael...ha ha. I like Michael Malone from the American Carol much better.
GremlinsAndGnomes 6 days ago
I'd become a citizen producer if I had a job, but I'm a minor.
GremlinsAndGnomes 6 days ago
This guy could get a job with Fox News.
I can see him and good old Bill working together.
MrDickWarrior 6 days ago
I think this guy is missing the point. we can't retroactively correct Bush's "Right-Wing" spending, but we can fix his screwups by investing in our infrastructure. And in order to fund that, we have to tax more. I am so sick of these idiots spewing that the rich are going to fix our economy by this "trickle down" effect (which has never helped), and cutting spending on all of these "socialist" programs like; the DOD, the USPS, Medicare, Medicaid, SS, DOT, IRS, ETC. WE NEED THESE SERVICES MORONS.
natemcrae54 1 week ago
No matter how much you spin it and skew the numbers, we cannot fund a country without taxing. And the fact that the rich pay a less percentage of their earnings than you and I do should sicken you. Instead, you right-wing folks back them up and act as if they care about you. They don't.
natemcrae54 1 week ago
@natemcrae54 No, we can't fix it with "infrastructure" spending, Obama tried that last year and it didn't help. And we didn't need all these, yes socialistic, programs before 1913 and we don't now.
NAdducci09 1 week ago in playlist Liked videos
@NAdducci09 It takes more than a year to fix this country. And actually, GM turned around from near bankrupcy to being the number one selling auto maker in a little over two years because of government spending. And believe it or not, America was a poor, country with very few paved roads before 1913. Taxes created this awesome country of ours and they are the only way to fix it.
natemcrae54 1 week ago
@natemcrae54 Yes, they should raise your taxes!
UnitedCorpOfAmerica 6 days ago
@UnitedCorpOfAmerica I wouldn't object. That's how countries fund important projects and programs. You shouldn't object either if you love this country.
natemcrae5454 6 days ago
@UnitedCorpOfAmerica They should not raise taxes, raising taxes only gives the rich one more reason not to do their business in this country, do you think it's worth risking countless jobs in raising taxes? In America they pay 50% in taxes if you play it fair, which hardly anyone does because that is completely stupid and outrageous to earn half of the dollar you should have earned to begin with, This is why money gets trapped overseas.
Evenwas616 5 days ago
@NAdducci09 Think about it for just a minute. In the '90's, we were the richest counrty in the world with OTHER COUNTRIES coming to us and borrowing money. Then several idiots voted Bush in TWICE, and he and his congress deregulated everything, set up oil as a commodity (as well as your mortgage) and cut taxes for the rich, and now we are falling behind and owe OTHER COUNTRIES money. It has been proven that we cannot fix our country without infrastructure spending and tax cuts.
natemcrae54 1 week ago
@natemcrae54 Set oil up as a commodity? Did he? Are you sure that wasn't Clinton when he signed into law the Commodities and Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which DEREGULATED naked oil speculation? FYI, oil has always been commoditized, not just when Bush was Prez. And mortgage backed securities came into existence under Clinton as well. I'm all for bashing Bush and his stupid policies, but before you do, learn.
hulsey1976 5 days ago
@hulsey1976 I can't blame the rich, but you can blame the presidents for their bad policies?
Who benefited from those policies? That's right, only the rich! All presidents are owned by the rich or, is one of them
geezusispan 5 days ago
@geezusispan I wasn't necessarily blaming anyone myself, just pointing out that sometimes the facts don't agree with people's political bias.
hulsey1976 5 days ago
@NAdducci09 They made our economy worse. So let's try the opposite and see if that works.
natemcrae54 1 week ago
@NAdducci09 Read these in reverse order. LOL. Sorry. YOUTUBE limited me.
natemcrae54 1 week ago
I remember a time when I didn't know a single person that did not have a job, in the last five years out of the 30 or so people I know about 10 of them have jobs. Hard working people who's jobs just went away, can someone please explain how this happened.
Kiddeth 1 week ago
Obviously, bone head when I said the government allowed in these immigrants to keep wages low for business, I was speaking of illegal immigrants. Your vision is too narrow to see what is really going on.
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan Not obvious at all. See, the government doesn't allow them in. The government has fences, Obama has increased the border guard, etc.We don't want illegals, especially not conservatives.
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@TheMoron64
Like I said your vision is TOO narrow. The government has allowed illegal immigration at least since the 60s. How else could there be 12 million living here? Try to think...
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geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan Yes, but it is becoming harder and harder for illegals to get in here, even if the gov't finds it immoral to deport these people. Since 2005, illegal immigration has decreased 67%, from 850,000 a year to 300,000 annually. It's all from Pew, look it up yourself
TheMoron64 1 week ago
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@TheMoron64 My wife was a Legal Aid attorney, illegal immigrants were in court all the time. None were ever deported. The government allowed them to stay.
geezusispan 1 week ago
Tax the rich IS a start in the right direction.....
Has anyone seen the similarity to Greece here?
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan In Greece, people were permitted to retire with something like 80% pay at age 52... That isn't here yet...
TheMoron64 1 week ago
Fantastic video. It's unbelievable there are people out there that actually believe "tax the rich" is the solution to our problems.
LacusTheDestroyer 1 week ago
@LacusTheDestroyer Then what is?
MichaelPolios 1 week ago
@MichaelPolios Slash spending dramatically. This video proves that the government can't possibly tax enough to pay for everything - so they need to stop paying for so much.
LacusTheDestroyer 1 week ago
Just stop immigration completely. Immigration is a better deal for the companies so they have a bigger pool to higher from, and for the immigrants themselves who come from worse off places. But immigration is always a worse deal for the average people living in a developed country. So why the fuck is immigration happpening when it should be against the wishes of the majority in any country like Britain, Australia, etc?
Floodlezoot 1 week ago
@Floodlezoot That has got to be the most flawed logic I have seen in my life. So what you are saying is that you don't like immigration because it forces you to work harder for a job, and as a result, the government should stop it entirely? You do know that every person anywhere is descended from immigrants, right? But because YOU don't want to earn your job, you want to be hired out of necessity, the government should forbid people from moving to a better life?How selfish is that?
TheMoron64 1 week ago
Michael Moore...you wanna talk about fascism. Wow.
stelter20 1 week ago
We hear the rich Rep's cry that 47% of the population does not pay any federal tax. Well fuck an A the rich do not even pay workers enough to pay federal tax. We need to do what Denmark does and make minimum wage 18 an hour and tax them 40 percent. that is still more then any American minimum wage and the workers all pay federal tax under that system. but the rich refuse to pay real wages. We have to fuckign kill them!
MrJapper88 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 I am ready for a war. I am ready to kill the rich and all the illegal scab labor they invaded our nation with. We just need the military on our side.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 The rich actually value labor quite highly, at least certain types of it. Why should someone who flips burgers all day get a lot of money? Or someone who assembles cars?
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 The rich value unique skills that aren't something everyone can do. People are paid by their value
TheMoron64 1 week ago
FUCK YOU RACIST PIECE OF SHIT. YOU JUST DON'T WANT US BLACK PEOPLE TO HAVE ANY FUCK YOU. YOU MAKE ME FUCKING SICK.
blackpower4eba 1 week ago
The rich are given our resources to manage and this is the best they can do? Import millions of scab illegals and export out best jobs to chink land? We do not need the rich at all. Our economy would be better served if the state ran all business and all our jobs stayed here for real Americans so we can all work and earn a real living wage and be treated well.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 HAHAHA we would not be better off if the gov't ran our business. They would both pay us and tax us and therefore have total control over us you mindless drone
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@TheMoron64 Our jobs would stay here, we are the government, so we would be working of ourselves. We the people. Much better off then working for some evil shit who wants to off shore our jobs to 3rd world child labor camps and import millions of 3rd world shit skin scabs. The rich will have to work for a living as well oh poor babies...
MrJapper88 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 Your condescending and resentful tone does nothing to help your flawed logic, if anything it makes you even harder to talk to. The rich don't "import 3rd world shit skin scabs," those immigrants, which is a much more civilized name for them, move here so they can get a better life. And I have already proven to you the rich work even harder than their workers. And the government would have utter control over our jobs and therefore our financial security.
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@TheMoron64 Actually the government has allowed the immigrants to come here as cheap labor for business. It's obvious. The rich only work if they want to. Many do not....
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan OH MY GOD! Why do you keep saying "Allow" when talking about letting in immigrants? It isn't a matter of allowing them. What right does the government have to keep them out? Why was it fine for our ancestors to come, but at THIS point in time, competition is too high? You and Japper, it seems, resent competition so much because it forces you to earn a job and not get handed one. Also, immigrants create demand, which creates new jobs. It's a cycle.
TheMoron64 1 week ago
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@TheMoron64 Obviously, bone head when I said the government allowed in these immigrants to keep wages low for business, I was speaking of illegal immigrants. Your vision is too narrow to see what is really going on.
geezusispan 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 If the government controls our jobs, then they can force ANYTHING on us under the threat of losing our jobs. We would be powerless to fight the massive entity that is the government, and fighting the government is what America was built on, hence the Bill of Rights giving so much power to the states and individuals. But I guess you just have such utter contempt for those smart and more hard-working than you who are better off that you didn't consider this.
TheMoron64 1 week ago
No thanks. I just ate tacos.
vspqbd 1 week ago
By taking the money of everyone making over $250k, you've already taken all the money from Billy Gates and Warren Buffet + the other 398 members of Forbes' list, right? Redundant and only makes your point stronger.
RSDSaint 1 week ago
The governing class, through their herds of labor lemmings, are now protesting against the citizens. This isn't good.
When Liberals tell you how much they want to help people, with YOUR money, the people they're referring to are themselves.
TylerNull 1 week ago
this is a nightmare 80/20 rule in reverse to the extream. you rich want to solve the problems by going after the 99% that have nothing in this society... fucking idiots. We have under ground economies, drugs prostitution, and the church all need to be taxed. get rid of scab illegals and pay real Americans a living wage so we can all pay the federal taxes of this land. The rich pay workers so shity wages they dont even make enough to pay federal taxes.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
No mater what, the rich can cry and think they have it so bad, but they have all the money and 99% have shit. Shit jobs shit pay, shit future... The rich never have it as bad as we do, we do all the work they can have it so good. They want to work us to death, they never want us to retire or enjoy life, they send our best jobs to chink land, and import millions of illegal scabs to keep wages down. fuck the rich.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
@MrJapper88
"They want to work us to death."
Where do you work?
...maybe the 1% can close all of their companies and guess what, you'll be out of a job.
aveyowyns 1 week ago
@aveyowyns We don't need the owners and investors who make all the profit and do none of the work. Yeah, it really is that simple.
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan Oh really? The owners and investors do none of the work? Lets start out by looking at where they got their money to invest or their company to own. The overwhelming majority will have worked their way up for it, and been the best, which is why they are in such a good position. Now, If you think that owners don't do any work, you are sorely mistaken. Let's look at a computer company. The workers are mostly unskilled laborers.
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@geezusispan They aren't payed phenomenally well because unskilled labor is in no way valuable and very easily replaceable. Now, the owner of the company is on the hook for deciding every single thing the company does. What divisions to fund, open, or close. How best to advertise. Working out partnerships with other companies such as microchip makers. The work done by the owner requires much more skill than the work of the laborers. It is also more valuable.
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@TheMoron64 this is why we have to kill the rich. they work so hard to keep wages low, they do not value labor, this dip shit called it unskilled and is to replace thanks to the off shoring and the illegals scabs they import. the rich have to fuckign die!
MrJapper88 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 So you are wiling to kill another individual based on your envy?You are true evil you don't have so you want to destroy those who do.How would society benefit with out the rich
Cogitatio023 1 week ago
@Cogitatio023 Bible states if you take form form my family and take away my ability to feed and take care of my family that is the same as killing us. We have the moral obligation to set things right, and fucks like you have stated over and over again you will not entertain the idea of paying us a fair living wage. You leave us no choice but to kill them and make things right.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 No to off shoring bring all jobs back home and kick out every illegals and only allow real Americans to work and all is well. It work great for all of us for the first 200 years of the USA existence.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 What does the bible say about insulting your neighbor? What does the bible say about helping those worse-off than you? The people who legally immigrate to this country are often much worse off than anyone in America. Now, without offshore jobs, businesses would either go under or charge MUCH more. The business wouldn't eat the cost, they would pass it on to the average person. You just don't get that do you?
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@TheMoron64 bull shit. Legal immigration at 1 million a year is far too high, and that is just 2 percent of all the illegals on top of that. do not confuse the two. Business will charge no more then the market can bear. We have 200 years of American history where is all worked perfect, only the last 40 years of this vodo economics has ruined the USA. Kill the rich and let the state run all business the rich will not earn profit off us ever again.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 Absurd claim. According t the Pew Hispanic Center, 350,00 illegal immigrants enter yearly. IMMACT limits legal immigration 700,000 a year. The USA system, relatively, is quite difficult, when compared to other first world countries. If Government controls both our salaries and taxes, they control everything about us. They can force anything on us under threat of unemployment! And businesses, if unable to raise prices enough to compensate, will go bankrupt!
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@MrJapper88 Tell me one rich man who has taken from you?What do you mean by a living wage? people get paid by there value. This is why me as a them park worker make 8 dollars an hr,and my neighbor as an electrical worker makes 40 dollars an hr. his skill his more valuable then mine.
Cogitatio023 1 week ago
@MrJapper88
Envy is a deadly sin.
NickyAmerica 1 week ago
@geezusispan Also, in many cases, though not all, the owner supplied a good chuck of the initial money and took the largest risk, as he guaranteed salaries to workers and might not turn a profit. Moving on to your slightly-more-valid investors comment, no, investors don't do any work for the company. Forgetting the fact that they likely earned their money elsewhere, without investors, new companies would almost never start up or get big.
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@geezusispan Investors are vital to capitalism because they allow new companies to rise up and have a fair shot at the old ones. They put in their own money to take a massive risk on a new company, and because their money is what allowed the company to succeed, they get payoffs. Workers take no risk by taking a job. They are guaranteed a salary until the company goes bankrupt.
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@TheMoron64 workers sacerfice their entire life energy for the business their sweat blood and tears for the business. only way a company is ever successful is due to the workers and they should get the lion share of the profits not investors that do not do shit. Lincoln told us all 150 years ago Labor is superior to capital. Wake the fuck up.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
@geezusispan That is why investors are so sought-after, their risk can be all a company needs to succeed, so they are given a large chunk of the proceeds. Workers, who take no risk and aren't very valuable, get the salary they were GUARANTEED. sorry for the long response
TheMoron64 1 week ago
@geezusispan
Yes, we do. That's like saying the human body can do without a brain, after all, it's the limbs and organs that do all the work.
aveyowyns 1 week ago
If hard work made one rich, every woman in Africa would be a billionaire!
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan
Ignorant.
Where in Africa? Maybe you've forgotten that Africa is a continent, with many different countries, each country with its own specific problem.
The reason why 'African' women work hard but have no money is because those parts of the continent are war-torn and heavily regulated by government. Didn't you ever wonder why "Africans" don't just go plant some food if they're that hungry?
aveyowyns 1 week ago
@aveyowyns
You just tell me where the African women work all day AND get paid like millionaires.
geezusispan 1 week ago
@geezusispan
That only proves my point even more! 'African women' who work hard don't get 'paid' because of their COUNTRY. America is a place that allows hard work to be rewarded,
aveyowyns 1 week ago
@aveyowyns Not true at all. You work hard and in a few years you get a few weeks vacation and a good wage and they lay you off and replace you with a 3rd world illegal and you starve and lose everything. The USA does not value hard work at all. They are seeking everyday possible to grind down wages and pay everyone less and less. The rich loby our leaders 24/7 for news ways to off shore work and import millions of illegals to keep wages super low.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
I don't think we need to eat the rich, just killing them would solve most of our problems....
geezusispan 1 week ago
Its simple. The rich earn more money than they need to survive (which they save). That saved money sits in banks or investments accruing interest (from the market) The poor spend their money on goods and services (to survive) stimulating the economy (Businesses owners businesses) Hmmmmm... I wonder who ends up with all the money? Could it be banks and business owners? WOW! What a surprise!
SquidgyMcGee 1 week ago
@SquidgyMcGee 1. So you are saying that it is a bad idea to have money on hand in case of emergencies? It is not bad to save money. But who gets to decide how much? It's your money.
2. Rich people don't just live in boxes and hold onto money just because they like having green paper with presidents. They buy Bentleys and houses, and boats, or the smarter ones invest into more opportunities to make more money. Are going to say that investing is bad? take an econ class for god sake.
ph7ryan 1 week ago
We need to pay working people a lot more like Denmark does 18 minimum wage and tax them all at 40% so the working poor are allowed to help pay the debt burden and take it off the hands of the rich, but the rich have to pay real living wages and stop using 33rd world illegal scabs.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
We are wasting fucking 50 billion of foreign aid. good fuckign damn it!!!!
MrJapper88 1 week ago
What good are the rich? they want us to pay the highest possible price for their products but they refuse to pay us a fair living wage, export our best jobs to chink land, and import millions of illegal scabs to grind our wages down. fuck the rich we need to kill these fucking cunts.
MrJapper88 1 week ago
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SquidgyMcGee 1 week ago
P.S. This guy is a fucknuckle...
Phreekoid 1 week ago
Goddamn Amerikkkans...when you have a political system that can be bought for cash you're in for trouble,
I think the rot in this country runs so deep that the only way out is a fucking big financial crash that will take the current usurers out of circulation, the monetary system does not work , we need a new template for commerce.
Phreekoid 1 week ago
why does michael moores face look like a waterbed someones having sex on, every time he speaks?
xCaliSunshinex 1 week ago
Did I space out or did he totally forget to subtract all the money the government takes in per year in taxes, tariffs, etc. from the total spending?? Yeah.... so how about you start there..
zacrl1230 1 week ago
garbage propaganda
nsdtr01 1 week ago
OK. WELL DONE Iowahawk. This is very clever. I don't think the poor want to liquidate anything (When cornered people get angry) They just want an even share of the money 'as its made'. After all they do a lot of the work and buy businesses products and services. anyway If your going to liquidate such vast amounts of stuff. Who would you sell it to? don't be ridiculous. Average people don't want to cut down the apple tree in the orchard. They just want a greater share of the fruit as its grown.
SquidgyMcGee 1 week ago
@SquidgyMcGee What? Grow your own tree! What ever happened to starting your own business or just working hard. I can't believe the entitlement mentality that comes from the left. UHHHH I didn't earn anything, but I deserve more money, because other people are making more than me! That's the most moronic argument I've ever heard. Stop being the victim and just make your own money. I'm so tired of this I'm poor, so someone needs to give me something I really don't deserve shit!
you831able 1 week ago 2
@you831able Well funny you should say that you831able. I am a business owner. My mum was a CEO (retired millionaire) my father is about to sell out of his 2 franchise business he created. I have been purchased my very own business. I am the boss. Not everyone can start a business. Because they are not in the position to. If your so sure you have the answers. You start putting down the poor of this world. because without help they will die. So why don't you put them out of their misery?
SquidgyMcGee 1 week ago
@SquidgyMcGee- So you advocate higher taxes? How will higher taxes help you? Will you hire more people when you have less money? My whole family was poor my entire life. I went in the military, got out, and went to school. I worked many different low wage jobs. Now after 25 years of working, I make decent money. Life is what people make it. Yes, everyone besides druggies and handicapped people can start a business or get an education. They just have to work and save.
you831able 1 week ago
@you831able Actually i'm just giving my employees a share of the profits of the business. By giving them shares in the company. After all they work their fingers to the bone, spending the duration of their natural lives in service of my organisation. I want them to know that their time with me is appreciated. The more they contribute the more they get. i treat them with the esteem i give myself. Not just as an expendable asset.
SquidgyMcGee 1 week ago
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@you831able Well funny you should say that you831able. I am a business owner. My mum was a CEO (retired millionaire) my father is about to sell out of his 2 franchise business he created. I have been purchased my very own business. I am the boss. Not everyone can start a business. Because they are not in the position to. If your so sure you have the answers. You start putting down the poor of this world. because without help they will die. So why don't you put them out of their misery?
SquidgyMcGee 1 week ago
@you831able Bollocks mate i'm not on any wing. i just see it how it is. If companies treat people so fairly why are they on the verge of revolt? Wake up and smell the smelling salts. You might be able to smell them if you pull your head out your arse
SquidgyMcGee 1 week ago
@you831able final someone with some fucking common sense.
TheC0ldest 1 week ago
@SquidgyMcGee Did Bill Gates whine like you when he was in his garage planning his empire? Did Henry Ford whine and say " Give me money " Fuck no! Democrats are expecting the government to fight a battle, that really should be fought by the individual through hard work and fiscal responsibilty!
you831able 1 week ago