MUST WATCH!!-Austin Man drives plane in to IRS building- SUicide note!!! -2/2

[jamplease1]

I have been in this situation and worse. Even though I am angry with people destroying my dream, I know there is a higher power that the big asterisks are already having to deal with. The balance of power will shift dramatically, and the only ones to blame will be the ones who created this game. The big wigs are digging their own grave and will soon throw themselves in it. Just wait, and watch. And believe in holy justice.

[catgumart]

on a more positive note-thanks for this great channel!

[catgumart]

I will say that Americans make light of it comparitively speaking- but if it had been a Muslim then--the reactions would be far more serious-and people would use it as an excuse to defend anti gun control and militarism--but since it is a disenfranchised frustrated white American male-- then many in our culture will be like "yeah it is tough out their -this guy was a nut...I wish he had made a different choice..but life can be so painful and humiliating and pointless for many people.

[catgumart]

The reason i don't define it a terrorist act is because it was different from organized groups of people planing destruction to spread fear & strengthen their organizations ability to intimidate to gain power--this was a one man act of suicidal desperation hoping he could take out a few of those he considered enemies-which would be innocent people doing their job working for the government-I do agree that the problems are real-& that the institutions are flawed & oppressive

[catgumart]

I disagree with using violence--if things are going to continue to be this bad then it will call for non-violent civil disobedience that coressponds to methods and criteria set by Gandhi & King & others--just mindlessly turning to violence not only will bring a downward spiral of worse and worse violence but could possibly enable far worse, more corrupt powers to come to power. As for this man's desperate act I don't think it should be defined terrorist..

[catgumart]

I think the man who committed this kamikaze act was an act of desperation and I'm sad he suffered so much...there are so many people suffering in these ways all over the country--but it is somehow somewhat invisible or glossed over by diversion--or people who are doing--"ok" are to busy doing what it takes  to keep themselves "ok" like work too many hours for too little income at un-gratifying jobs--and conforming to trends and conventions that are like traps that keep em' on the treadmill...

[captcrais101]

was this terrorist a libertarian? Some of you libertarians are crazy.

[baalHunter]

go blow up ur local mcDs

[vacinestoxic]

I read a news piece today regarding a man who

had his home bulldozed to the ground before it

foreclosed.

Bravo!

[911truthncDotOrg]

Everyone is NOT seeing the whole picture. Please, please, please, google Walter Burien and The Biggest Game In Town.

The financial crisis is another hoax people. Learn about the

Comprehensive Annual Financial Report.

cafr1 com

[TeslaGenius]

"financial crisis is another hoax" WTF are you talking about?!

[911truthncDotOrg]

Climate Change!! ROFL!!!!

This dude needs to read!!  Quit listening to Democracy Now!

Climategate is a fraud. Just like Peak Oil.

[javamanV3]

Obviously an oil shil...

[911truthncDotOrg]

Peak Oil a myth in the making. There are plenty of answers to Peak Oil if they are ever allowed to be developed. Natural Gas for one. Switch the trucking industry over to natural gas.

Peak Oil problem solved. Simple and inexpensive.

[exenrontexas]

I disagree with the call for violent revolution. That is PRECISELY what those you rant against WANT so they can finally quit pretending to provide rights and equality. It was what Hitler did by burning the Reichstag and what BUSH did with 9-11 to get an excuse to remove freedoms.

FIRST step: REMOVE the ELECTORAL College. That will give the people the hope that their votes will count and mean something. Second: clean up election fraud. Third (really first) support EDUCATION.

[javamanV3]

You forgot the real change move - get rid of the lobbying system. Only constituents get to petition the government - not corporations...

[exenrontexas]

The GOP will never allow it and the groups that seem to be organizing for such change in Washington are owned by the GOP. The religious right, tea baggers and the corporations. The Dems are far too disorganized, poorly funded and poorly focused to get much done and their "change" standard bearer is stuck in neutral. We need REAL reform and outrage like against corporations at the turn of the 20th century. Teddy R. Upton Sinclair and the rest and also during the Great Depression. REAL reform.

[rbgsolomon]

Stop arguing with each other and UNITE!!!!!!!!

[picklestickle]

Well what im doing personally is by the end of the year me and my family will be a sovereign citizens of the state of maine and fade out into the state and stop wasting my time with this society... Im taking away my demand that causes all this craziness. Me and the federal government will not be doing business any more... infact only mainers will have my business and i will produce my own needs and live humbly. Its always been my plan im just going to have to speed it up. VIOLENCE will not fix!

[powergirl901]

Many of us are awake to the government's true issues and insolvency, but i wonder when will my parent, my mom is 80 and doesn't care about this issue?

So many others are like her, so I wonder if and when the rest of the USA will ever wake up?

[saintearth]

Make your best guess and double it.

[tomasbermea]

even though a lot of what he said makes sense, violence is NEVER the answer. if u have a problem with the govt. or anything then struggle in a way that would be beneficial/edifying like ghandi, martin luther king jr. etc. did u know?

[powergirl901]

No, ridding us of this corrupt government will take violence, sorry if that offends you.

[duh420duh]

Hell this guy sounds like a fraud.....

a false flag mission.....

something to stir up a mess between the fed government and the truth movement.....

[Squirelbutt]

Check the news the global warming hoax is mainstream now.

[MarmaladeINFP]

I agree that the argument of his suicide note is logical, but he still was a terroritst. Flying a plane into a building only randomly kills people. It makes for great terrorism, but it doesn't punish those who are responsible.

As for the Earth LIberation Front, they destroy property but they don't kill people. Liberal protesters in general including the Weather Underground have avoided killing people. Why are rightwing protesters more prone to murder?

[jamplease1]

@MarmaladeINFP Sometimes their destruction of property is very deadly. Google a few of those events.

[MarmaladeINFP]

@jamplease1 I wasn't advocating the destruction of property. I'm mostly a pacifist in such manners. I dislike the killing & destruction of property the US military does around the world. I don't care if I agree w/ the motivations or the desired end, violence should be an absolute last resort. But if someone does feel a compelling need to resort to violence (be they a part of a private organization or the military), I'd prefer they do attacks on property (symbolic or tactical) w/o killing people.

[truefakeness]

I agree with him that violence is the only solution. That is not an insane or uncommon viewpoint, read Sartre, Fannon, etc. etc. At least he gave the bastards a bloody nose before he checked out.

[classicallady]

Violence is never an answer. It only generates more violence leading to anarchy. Voting is the answer. And EDUCATION over ignorance.

[truefakeness]

@classicallady Well I guess it's a good thing fools like you were in the minority in all the great revolutions which advanced human society and culture. If people were not willing to use violence to liberate themselves from oppression you would still be a peasant like your ancestors in medieval Europe.

Voting means nothing when it is just a means of passive consent and not real democratic control of the state. And education from a slave society is only an education to be a good slave.

[classicallady]

Why are you jumping to conclusion about who my forefather were?You don't know me.I see you are a communist - I am fine with it.Got several friends who also are but imposing violence will only get us to a state of Martial Law and I hate to live in any country under dictatorship.And boy you weren't even born yet and I was already reading Marx/Trotsky.Yet I cansee the greatness Catherine the Great brought to Russia but I am not blind to see the horrible sides too.

[classicallady]

Been there, done that.

[truefakeness]

@classicallady I was not saying your ancestors were necessarily Europeans, I was merely expressing the point that it is through revolutions that humanity has acquired whatever freedom and justice it currently has. And you shouldn't jump to conclusions about how old I am either.

And clearly you didn't read Marx or Trotsky close enough. I'm sorry you are afraid to live under martial law, but if you really want to be free you have to stake your life in struggle.

[classicallady]

But they were but you don't know if they were peasants or not.BTW I am against monarchy, I am what in Europe we consider a republican - NOT HERE - and you state in your page you are 19.True real change came with civil unrest and revolutions but the outcome didn't necessarily mean it was for the better.

[classicallady]

IWDN I was very impressed by his letter yet someone who owns a plane is refusing to pay 40K in taxes? It sounds very Illogical to me.

[MarmaladeINFP]

That does poke a hole in the argument of his suicide note. He claims he lost all of his money, but he still had a plane and enough money to fuel it. I'd like to find more about the real story behind all of this.

[classicallady]

@Marmalade: a psycho, wacko job. The man was insane and as I think ppl who rfuse and hate to pay taxes are self centered egomaniacs it only serves to proof me I am right. He never had any feeling towards his own wife and daughter.

[MarmaladeINFP]

I'm fine with people not wanting to pay taxes, but they still have to pay them or else accept the consequences. I'm fine with people protesting, but terrorism is a whole other matter.

The fact of the matter is that taxes are the way our society operates... like it or not. People are free to move to another country, but many countries tax more than the US government.

[classicallady]

I am fine too. In Euroep we pay a hell more in taxes...I just ask these ppl to stop using highways, police, emergency services . They are all part of a social strata.

[p717]

The corporate left has already brushed this guy off as a teabagger - despite the outcry from a lot of us normal people who are saying that there is a lot that they can relate to in the content of his 'exit speech'. I noticed nothing fringe right about the guy, only in his experience with con artist Sam Kennedy types and how they screwed him over along with the federal tax loopholes and accountants.

[classicallady]

Yep the guy was a cutie....Made sure to leave his wife and daughter homeless. Last I've checked the ones hating to pay taxes are from the right and all of them Ray Gun lovers.

[p717]

You right. I love funding genocide myself. That's what's great about taxes.

[classicallady]

Ok next time your house gets robbed DO NOT CALL 911.Don't use the highways, roads, Postal service nor hospitals for emergency issues.They are all provided to you by taxes.And everybody defending this evil bastard I wish a sibbling of yours or your own children get blown away in another attack

[p717]

lol. I don't defend the murder aspect of his actions, but I love how quickly one simple wedge issue makes people automatic enemies incapable of intelligent debate or dealing with real social issues. Typical talking points mentality to make someone who has even the slightest disagreement with your position out to be a 2 dimensional being.

That's why things like this happen in this country, because people have no platform of discourse, just spoon-fed ideologues.

[classicallady]

you are preaching to the wrong crowd. I am NOT a citizen of this country.You are trying to defend a domestic terrorist, a socyopath who claimed other ppl's lives because he felt paying his duties were just a not convenient way for him. I abject violence of any kind.Don't come and give me your nonsense about social issues. There is a reason we have a much more egalitarian society and not as manu psychos in there.

[p717]

I'm not preaching nor defending the ACTIONS of this guy. He's a symptom of a bigger problem that our cultures leaders and media ignore. Most taxes here are paying for empire building while our bridges collapse and infrastructure is sold to foreign interests at taxpayer expense. Your society is egalitarian. Good. That's our end goal. We won't have it until the mafia we live under is disenfranchised. Stop whining about what you see from a distance unless your in the thick of it.

[p717]

BTW, I've read many things about Canada over the past several years because I once thought of escaping there. Then I read the horror stories of the Native population and was dumbfounded by not only the number of homeless people, but by how badly they're treated by Authorities. Yep, that's a proudly egalitarian culture. I think that's why we tend to refer to Canada as "America Jr." Of course, if it doesn't affect you or your circle of friends/family personally, it doesn't exist, does it?

[classicallady]

p717 I have been visiting Canada for over 30 years, different cities, my family lived all over and I have no idea what you are talking about.Really! French part, English one......I don't know what to say!

[magichandpuppet]

Our politicians use violence as a political tactic every day. Not saying I condone the initiation of violence. But, as Gerald Celente says: "People who lose everything tend to lose it!"

I expect much more of this kind of thing as the ponzi-economy continues to fall apart.