Deedat Errors 003 - Translating Messiah and INSERTING Arabic Names

[lamentations32223]

The way he integrates the Hebrew with the Arabic - one would almost think that he wants to be reunited with his Jewish brothers .. and for the wall of partition to be removed ...

[Texas75023]

You say 'integrates'... I say 'misapproproates'.

The realy purpose of Mohammedism is to COOPT and SUBVERT the Word of God in the EARTH.

To SUPPLANT the TRUE Children of the Covenant, and lead them away from the Truth.

As you LISTEN to Mohammedans apologists, BE AWARE they may say whatever they think they need to, in order to trick you inso 'Islam'.

And the Quran has a VERY CLEAR indictment to KILL those who ONCE JOIN, and then LEAVE Mohammedism. Sura 4.89

[Texas75023]

I encourage ALL who CALL THEMSELVES MUSLIM to sincerely ponder and think WHERE is your HEART, my brothers?

Do you worship Mohammed? or do you seek to worship the One True God of Abraham?

I can HEAR you cry out 'We DO NOT worship Mohammed!' and yet you hold Mohammed's WORD ABOVE the Word of God.

IF YOU DO believe the Quran, TAKE HEED of Sura 3.55 and 61.14, which PROVE JESUS is the SON OF GOD, my friends.

[101alpha101]

don't need anyone to tell them about God, Jesus , or Mohamad and don't need references from the Bible to proof that Mohamad is the messenger of God (ALLAH).Your claim doesn't make sense. You mentioned he did that to make unchallenged claims. For years and Deedat was challenging everyone who comes accross him, see other debates for him about other subjects

Debates means face to face not through youtube, a real debates where both opponents present their cases in front of audience...

[Texas75023]

If as you claim, 101alpha, Mohammed did not need the credentials he tried to steal over and over again from the Bible, he would have skipped his whole effort.

But in fact, Mohammed HIMSELF made appeal after appeal to the Torah and Bible to claim THEY spoke of him, even when NO SUCH REFERENCE exists.

In fact, when Ahmed Deedat was CHALLENGED to produce the verse of Jesus promising 'Ahmad' to come, Deedat ADMITS THERE IS NO SUCH REFERENCE i the Word of God. Deedat ADMITS there is NO SUCH VERSE.

[101alpha101]

Do you have the evidences that Mohamad told people to follow him because he was mentioned in the Bible or Torah. The more you talk the more you are showing your ignorance, your false claims and accusations. Mohamad came from people that used to worship the statues, no christians or Jews were involved when he started his missionary, do you think it would matter for someone who worship the stone whether Mohamad was mentioned in the Bible or Torah or not to follow him?

[Texas75023]

@101alpha101 Of COURSE, my friend. from UR VERY OWN QURAN.

Those who follow the Apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures) - in the Law and the Gospel.

Surah 7.157

And again in Qur'an 61:6 Mohammed concocts a fictitious recommendation from Jesus 'confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is Ahmad (the Praised One).'

There are MORE if U want them, my friend.

[101alpha101]

@Texas75023 These Suras exactly apply on people like you, which proves his prophecy.

[Texas75023]

101alpha, charlatans and deceivers give general claims with nothing specific.

'People will DOUBT my message'... yeah RIGHT, that is supposed to be impressive as a 'Prophecy?

You are not going to accept my answer and reject Mohammed as a Fraud.

See, I TOO am a prophet BETTER tham Mohammed, because MY prophecies come to pass IMMEDIATELY.

I'm busy working on the videos to explain Suras 3.55 and 61.14 to you, my friend. They are unfulfilled promises AT BEST. Direct CONTRADICTIONS at worst.

[101alpha101]

First, there is nothin that is called Mohammadism, or Mohammedans, they are Muslims worship Allah Amighty, not Mohamad or any human being so stop introducing this ideology that exists only in your mind to people. Second writing in big letters is not a way to convince anyone. Third,I think Deedat 's purpose in his debates is to ntroduce Islam to Christians and tell them what are Muslims beleifs. So saying that he was lecturing Muslims only is pathetic and a falsification because Muslims...

[Texas75023]

100alpha, the religion that whoships the Word of Mohammed as IF IT WERE the word from a god is Mohammedism. There is no other suitable word for it, my friend. Mohammedism has taught you to accept EVERY word of the Quran, or at least to SAY YOU BELIEVE the Quran, and to ignore the REAL Word of God, the Torah and Bible, which even MOhammed cried out to for some hope of credentials.

But If the Quran is TRUE, Sura 3.55 and Sura 61.14 PROVE Jesus is the Son of God, my friend.

[101alpha101]

How did you came out with this conclusion? Is there any other scholars that agrees with you about these terms or is it only you who figured it out too? So now you speak and understand the Arabic language too as much as the Hebrew? Again I would like to hear you reading them in Arabic (Not the translation) and explaining them in English which is fine and prove for us that these suras says that Jesus is the son of God?

[Texas75023]

@101alpha101 I grant you that the entire Quran is incoherent, even for those who CLAIM to speak Arabic. In fact, WITHOUT THE HADITHS there is no one who can actually try to claim ANY specific reading of ANY ayat is even HALFWAY close to what Mohmmaed intended with his sayings.

This is the fundamental problem of Mohammedism, my friend, the text written by one man alone, is not coherent and self-explanatory as the Word of God is.

this is why the Bible NEEDS NO 'hadiths', my friend.

[101alpha101]

Deedat when he debated there were Christians too, so he was not speaking to Muslims only as you claimed. And we Mulims don't need Deedat or any other human being to tell us about Mohamad to keep our faith. And at the end we don't worship Mohamad we worship ALLAH almighty. An you are trying to debate with yourself what a man died said.Why don't you debate with the people that still alive and see what they say.Like Dr.Zakir Naik for example. I beleive he will be happy to debate about these points

[Texas75023]

@101alpha101, these errors are not during a 'DEBATE' my friend. They are from a special meeting for Mohammedans AFTER the Swaggert debate. I'm sure a few Christians attended, but in general Deedat was speaking ONLY to Mohammedans, and his comments and directions were to make unchallenged claims (MOST of them wrong).

By refuting De3edat, I AM debating Dr. Naik, because MOST of Naiks argument are from Deedat. But direct citations of Naik and refuting his errors is in progress, my friend.

[sha150680]

say these things to someone who doesn't about the bible, Deedat has proven to all of your world missionaries that Jesus was not crucified. they couldn't answer him. now u'r proven to us that you're better than them.

welldone

[Texas75023]

Actually, my friend, Deedat was a VERY SLIPPERY LIAR, and I have several videos refuting his gorss errors, as well as irrefutably PROVING that DEEDAT is a bold-faced Liar.

But do you know the WORST OF IT, my friend?

The LIES that DEEDAT told were told to THOSE WHO CALL THEMSELF 'Muslim'. And he LIED to you to CREATE the deception that Mohammed is mentioned IN THE BIBLE.

This is the most TERRIBLE sin he committed. He LIES to you to KEEP you in Islam. Watch the VIDEO. SEE for yourself.

[101alpha101]

I don't think God or anyone will benefit if someone keep his faith or accept another. Islam doesn't deny Jesus so don't mislead the people, a muslim is not a muslim if he doesn't beleive in Jesus, (mentioned in the Quran). Discussing relegion you should have some manners and try to use apropriate words. there is nothing called Mohamadism, it is Islam. This is the deception. And why don't you defend the bible by bringing proofs for what you are claiming instead of attacking others.

[Texas75023]

@101alpha101

You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder.

And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist.

You see, my friend, to SAY you believe Jesus IS NOT the Christ is a gross error. But to say Jesus IS THE Christ, and do so thinking the WRONG MEANING of Christ is not better.

Jesus the Christ IS THE SON OF GOD, my friend. CHRIST is synonymous with, MEANS, the SON OF GOD.

[Texas75023]

@101alpha101

There are times to teach PURE TRUTH, and as you watch my videos, I refute Deedat and other Mohammedan teachings with PURE TRUTH from the Word of God. But there are also times to HIGHLIGHT the errors and intentionally false claims being made to spread Mohammedism.

Just so you know, Mohammedism IS the religion started by the MAN named MOHAMMED. It is the religion that follows HIS WORDS as if they were the words of an allah.

[101alpha101]

So is it different from Islam?!!! Is this a new religion that humanity didn't know about it yet and you discovered it recently?!! Man you are hurting yourself.

Lets consider that what you are saying is right, can you debate that and proof that is was from Mohamad words?

Deedat brought up many evidences to say that the Bible is not the word of God and that Jesus wasn't crucified and were all from the Bible itself. Can you do the same and bring proofs supporting your claims from the Bible?

[Texas75023]

The TRUE religion from God is COMPLETELY different than Mohammedism (which wants to call itself 'Islam').

The problem with Deedats claims is that MANY of them are FALSE and INAcCURATE readings from the Word of God, the Torah and Bible.

And as I prove in another video, Deedat is a BOLD-FACED LIAR when it comes to his claim that Mohammed is the Comforter of John 16. Deedat simply lies whenever he needs to create a claim.

[101alpha101]

You already told me that several times but this is not what i asked you. I asked you and still asking you to provide evidences just like Deedat did read my comments. So far you didn't.

[Texas75023]

@101alpha101 I HAVE answered your question.

'The TRUE religion from God is COMPLETELY different than Mohammedism '

You should LEARN TO READ, my friend. LEAR TO THINK with the mind God gave you, and REJECT the false teachings of the one man alone who claimed to speak for an unknown pagan deity.

[101alpha101]

@Texas75023 I send this advice back to you. Quran came with logic, knowledge and science. What did the Bible came with. Deedat and many other came with proves and evidences show us yours. And I am saying it convince me like Deedat did and I will follow your path.

[Texas75023]

101alpha, the logic the Quran claims is not very good logic, my friend.

The Bible contains the Words of Life, my friend. The OLD Testament and the NEW Testament stand as ONE, UNITED, just as God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit ECHAD, ONE United.

Watch my video about how the Quran is NOT a 3rd Testament. And focus on how the NEW TESTAMENT completely RESPECTS the Old Testament (The Torah, Psalms and Prophets).

Study the Word of God and COUNT the many times is says 'That it MIGHT BE FULFILLED'.

[janjanjohnson]

incredible!! texas, you are simply the Best!

[ISMASHYOUBRO]

I'm just curious. Why do you believe that Islam is a deception?

[Texas75023]

@ISMASHYOUBRO

The simple answer is that it is 'NOT the Truth'. Which of course BEGS the next question WHO is the perpetrator of this deception, this hoax? Right?

The answer is that Jesus was the Son of God, and His PURPOSE on Earth was to bring salvation to men, AND reassert God's authority in the Earth. 

The Bible declares the 'god of this world', Satan, has tried to blind the minds of men. And the #1 religion to attack Christianty AFTER it began is Mohammedism, which DENIES Jesus.

[Texas75023]

And if you pause and think about the eternal conflict which exists between God and Satan, the Christian explanation is consistent.

Jesus came and 'conquered' Satan by allowing Himself to be Crucified and subsequently resurrected. After this humiliating defeat, Satan did not quit or give up, he simplyl set about his scheming as 'al makr' the best deceiver and father of lies, to attempt to white-wash and cover over the entire issue.

He founded a religion, 600 years later, to deny it all.

[Texas75023]

This is essentially the Christian world-view of the 'existence and purpose' of Mohammedism. It exists to deny the fact that Jesus is the SON OF GOD, and to deny the fact that JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED.

It has NO OTHER PURPOSE to exist. And it has NO OTHER MESSAGE of spiritual insight. This is part of the foundation of deception of Mohammedism.

Second, there is NO OTHER religion on earth that Mohammedism attempts to DIRECTLY CONTRADICT. It does not NAME or identify ANY OTHER religion by name.

[Texas75023]

And, YES, I consider Christianity a PART of judaism. It is a completion of the PROMISE of God, not a NEW and different religion. It is a 'BETTER' Covenant established from the first Covenant that God made with Isaac.

The Covenant that God established with Abraham through Isaac was PLANNED to facilitate and give Jesus entry into the Earth as a man. Jesus said He did NOT come to abolish the Covenant, but to fulfill it, and to establish the New Covenant whereby ALL nations might be blessed.

[Texas75023]

ISMASH, consider the following. IF Satan exists, and is the enemy of God, WHAT religion(s) would Satan ACTUALLY be offended by, threatened by, have offense with, Attack, or otherwise attempt to destroy?

Would Satan bother to attack FALSE beliefs that already lead men AWAY from God? Or, would Satan, assuming he hates God, primarily be focused on attacking the religion that TRULY worships God?

There is NO OTHER religion on earth, my friend, that DIRECTLY ATTACKS another specific religion.

[Texas75023]

ISMASH, consider ALSO the continued efforts of men, like Deedat, to ATTEMPT to claim their leader Mohammed has 'credentials' from the Bible and Torah, but then they COMPLETELY reject the message of the Torah and Bible.

That is a pretty gross hypocrisy, to claim Mohammed is a prophet BECAUSE the Bible 'reveals' him, but NOTHING ELSE in the Bible may be trusted or should be respected.

This TOO is a LARGE deception in the thinking of Mohammedans. They SAY and DO very conflicting things.

[master611]

Jesus was never called isa?

we muslim know jesus as Isa. We always call him isa..

[Texas75023]

master611, exactly.

JESUS was NEVER called 'Issa' during His lifetime. If you called to him and said 'Hay Esau' or 'Hey Issa', He would NOT know who you were talking to.

This is the VERY argument Deedat makes attempting to claim 'Jesus' is not a name He would recognize. The TRICK Deedat uses is his inconsistency. He does not follow the same rules that he claims apply to 'Jesus'.

[shamshirghazali]

Forgive me. I still cannot see the difference. The original one is in Hebrew. If you want to translate into what ever language, so you translate using the translated language word for it. If there are many words in that languange for that original word, use the best you think would convey the true meaning.

[Texas75023]

The trick is that Deedat has tricked you into accepting ARABIC as if it were HEBREW. And this is his intention. Deedat had no knowledge of Hebrew, so he could not discuss details, such as the ACTUAL HEBREW WORD, 'MaCHMaD'.

It served Deedat's deception to these 4 HEBREW letters are the SAME as the Arabic word 'Mohammedim'.

It is indiciative and consistent with his lack of honesty and lack of scholarship, which when carefully applied, refutes Islam and its many baseless claims, my friend.

[shamshirghazali]

What I understand he said is "Messiah" in Hebrew, in Arabic Masehi. The Hebrew word is translated to Greek as Kristos. There is nothing wrong there. He did not say that the original word in the Bible as from Arabic but Hewbrew.

[Texas75023]

As I describe in the Video, this is a TRICK , my friend, because Deedat is attempting to MASK the fact the word is TRANSLATED into Arabic JUST AS MUCH as translated into Greek.

Try this. Think about this issue this way. 'Messiah, in Hebrew is Christos in Greek. The word is translated into Arabic 'Masee'. Think about it in that way, my friend.

[Mohahammed]

why do u tink deedat pbuh was triking u?

but i see wut u mean. muhse is arabic and is not hebrew.

can u tel me y u cal Allah 'J'ehovuh?

[Texas75023]

Mohahammed, Deedat was a dedicated but sadly wrong and deceived individual.

That does not insult him, my friend. It speaks the truth of a man who, in his heart, probably THOUGHT he was serving the Living God. But in reality, Deedat was zealously promoting the deception of Islam.

The God of Abraham REVEALED HIS NAME, my friend, through the Prophets. And the name that God revealed, my friend, is 'YHWH'.

It is not 'Allah' as Islam has claimed.

This is a HUGE difference from the Prophets.

[Texas75023]

Mohahammed(2) I encourage you, my friend, to sincerely and honestly seek the TRUE knowledge of God from the Prophets. It is recorded in the Torah and Bible, which EVEN THE Quran, my friend, CONFIRMS and ENDORSES.

Read Sura 5.47, which tells Christians to JUDGE by all that Allah HAS REVEALED in the Bible. If the Bible is TRUE and CORRECT for JUDGMENT as the Quran claims, my friend, then it is the TRUE Word of God and should be read.

Sura 5.68 says U HAVE NO GUIDANCE w/o the Torah and Bible.

[neolia23]

very informative information god bless you .....the truth will set us free