I don't know if it's just me, but the guy who plays Anthony Blanche- Nickolas Grace- looks exactly like Tim Curry. I actually thought for a second that it was him.
There is much discussion on the virtues of both video adaptations - it's true that this is much more loyal to the book, but I find the movie much more enjoyable to watch as an entity on it's own. Probably because I watched the movie then read the book and am now watching this series...
After watching the mini series back in the early 80's I found the latest Movie indigestible, I couldn't relate to either actor. Glad Evelyn Waugh didn't live to see what they did to his book. The mini series is a masterpiece and will always shine as an example of what can be accomplished with the right director and cast.
The great tolerance and forbearance Sebastian has for the absurd world he lives in is his ultimate charm. The wonderful "Catholic" virtue of forgiveness comes naturally to him.
Think the movie based a lot on the series. But I like both. The movie has an excellent score what makes it very dreamy and dramatic at times. And I love Whishaw's Sebastion as I like Andrews and especially Irons acting. But of course, there is more context here.
both cHARLES AND sEBASTIAN ARE MISCAST. tHEY'RE TOO OLD. cHARLES IS TOO PRETENTIOUS WITH HIS ACCENT, AND SEBASTIAN IS TOO MASCULINE. i LIKE wISHAW'S sEBASTIAN BETTER.
@Saskiana Well, I watched the movie first, then read the book, and am now watching the series. So to me Charles and Sebastian were perfectly cast. The movie is riveting, though sometimes lagging....and in the end it's only 2 hours long. The series so far, is rather boring and very matter of fact
@ggggroucho What you watch first probably does affect your preference. I thought the movie strayed too far from what the book was trying to say, completely changing/making stuff up, where-as the mini series is faithful. So, if you want Waugh's true vision, it's the mini series.
It -needs- to be told at length over several episodes, it needs a slow pace to allow for the characters to develop and for the atmosphere of the time to show through. It doesn't work as well condensed into one movie.
@ggggroucho Well, if you care more about superficial appearances than irons' and Andrews' amazing acting abilities...
It's true that the movie is more accurate to how Sebastian is supposed to look in the book, but that's pretty much the ONLY respect in which it's accurate. I got so angry at it that I couldn't finish it. It's a pale, insipid imitation of the original.
The brilliant thing about this series is the definative nature of the actors playing the characters. Jeremy Irons is a pretty definative Charles Ryder, although I believe the character is a bit interchangable and could be played by any competant dramatic actor (although Irons obviously brings something to the role) Anthony Andrews always seems to fall a bit short to me,though obviously his performance is not bad. But Nikolas Grace IS Anthony Blanche and John Gielguid IS Ryder senior! Brilliant!
Thank you so much for posting this. Living in France, I miss out on these excellent productions from British TV. (French television is dire and is rarely worth watching). Anyway, thanks again.
Hail Mary's aren't said at Mass.
Prancer1231 3 weeks ago
lol! Gielgud is so wonderful in this. Ah, the time honored ritual of the college kid asking Dad for more money.
thehoopoe 2 months ago
Yes Charles is very much in queer street. Lol
globalman 3 months ago
I don't know if it's just me, but the guy who plays Anthony Blanche- Nickolas Grace- looks exactly like Tim Curry. I actually thought for a second that it was him.
graceaspenmatthews 5 months ago
Mr Ryder such a funny part-I shall remember his technique if I ever have kids who ask me for money all the time!!
squashedtomato 8 months ago 4
There is much discussion on the virtues of both video adaptations - it's true that this is much more loyal to the book, but I find the movie much more enjoyable to watch as an entity on it's own. Probably because I watched the movie then read the book and am now watching this series...
starmanlover 8 months ago
After watching the mini series back in the early 80's I found the latest Movie indigestible, I couldn't relate to either actor. Glad Evelyn Waugh didn't live to see what they did to his book. The mini series is a masterpiece and will always shine as an example of what can be accomplished with the right director and cast.
jdollinter 8 months ago
The great tolerance and forbearance Sebastian has for the absurd world he lives in is his ultimate charm. The wonderful "Catholic" virtue of forgiveness comes naturally to him.
rh7onda7 9 months ago
OE ties have gone downhill since the 1930's version which Sebastien sports here.
Boratlon 1 year ago
Think the movie based a lot on the series. But I like both. The movie has an excellent score what makes it very dreamy and dramatic at times. And I love Whishaw's Sebastion as I like Andrews and especially Irons acting. But of course, there is more context here.
deliriousweare 1 year ago
both cHARLES AND sEBASTIAN ARE MISCAST. tHEY'RE TOO OLD. cHARLES IS TOO PRETENTIOUS WITH HIS ACCENT, AND SEBASTIAN IS TOO MASCULINE. i LIKE wISHAW'S sEBASTIAN BETTER.
ggggroucho 1 year ago
@ggggroucho Whishaw is a great actor but he was completely miscast as Sebastian, no one but Anthony Andrews could ever be Sebastian.
As this mini series is the most faithful adaptation of the book, I find it hard to believe anyone could think Charles and Sebastian miscast in it.
Saskiana 1 year ago 6
@Saskiana Well, I watched the movie first, then read the book, and am now watching the series. So to me Charles and Sebastian were perfectly cast. The movie is riveting, though sometimes lagging....and in the end it's only 2 hours long. The series so far, is rather boring and very matter of fact
ggggroucho 1 year ago
@ggggroucho What you watch first probably does affect your preference. I thought the movie strayed too far from what the book was trying to say, completely changing/making stuff up, where-as the mini series is faithful. So, if you want Waugh's true vision, it's the mini series.
It -needs- to be told at length over several episodes, it needs a slow pace to allow for the characters to develop and for the atmosphere of the time to show through. It doesn't work as well condensed into one movie.
Saskiana 1 year ago 2
@ggggroucho Well, if you care more about superficial appearances than irons' and Andrews' amazing acting abilities...
It's true that the movie is more accurate to how Sebastian is supposed to look in the book, but that's pretty much the ONLY respect in which it's accurate. I got so angry at it that I couldn't finish it. It's a pale, insipid imitation of the original.
celzmccelz 1 year ago
The brilliant thing about this series is the definative nature of the actors playing the characters. Jeremy Irons is a pretty definative Charles Ryder, although I believe the character is a bit interchangable and could be played by any competant dramatic actor (although Irons obviously brings something to the role) Anthony Andrews always seems to fall a bit short to me,though obviously his performance is not bad. But Nikolas Grace IS Anthony Blanche and John Gielguid IS Ryder senior! Brilliant!
BelatedCommiseration 1 year ago
@krane121 "He went to Australia" in response to what Charles' should do when in a queer street
lizclegg 1 year ago
Thank you so much for posting this. Living in France, I miss out on these excellent productions from British TV. (French television is dire and is rarely worth watching). Anyway, thanks again.
DrZenith 1 year ago
"...and then, FIFFT!, v-v-vanished, with nothing left atall. Nothing."
"...Should we go, Anthony?"
riseuplight 1 year ago 8
jeremy's dad seem pretty posh
ericnfan 1 year ago
I love the man at ;40!!
Museegirl0018 2 years ago
Quite the gossip, Anthony.
mannixisle 2 years ago 13
@mannixisle antony gets drunk and does tell everything even when jeremy is clearly not interested.
ericnfan 1 year ago
There are at the end of the traditional Latin Mass.
JennyYaaay 2 years ago 9