@Gungeek Really? I guess Ive never chronoed it nor pulled bullets and weighed the powder. Seems like the stuff on the 8rd strippers has quite a bit more felt recoil though. Why do you say that?
@locknloadvideo The Czech steel case stuff on chargers I find have the bullets and case stuck together and that drives up the pressure.I put them in my die and brake them apart.
I think its a myth too. What sub-gun takes 8rd strippers? Its also a recipe for disaster to make special loads like this. I think there's just really poorly made surplus ammo out there.
Also, its been proven that the cz-52 is not as strong as the TT-33. Just look how thin the chamber is! CZ-52's are quite weak! I still love the gun though!
@OCofthe3 The TT-33 borrows the weaker browning tilt barrel mechanism designed for lower pressure .45ACP and 9mm rounds. The CZ-52 borrows its cam lock design from the MG-42 which is one cannot argue about the rigidity of that design. Russian 7.62x25 ammunition for the PPSH was far hotter than those intended for the TT33.
@ChrisPenta I can argue that the CZ-52 is not a MG-42 and no comparison should be made between these two weapons other than how the mechanism works. There are 2 problems with the 52. The first one is how thin the bottom of the chamber is. The second is how all of the recoil forces load into the slide. I shot mostly Romanian ammo through my 52 and I developed a crack on the slide starting from the ejection port. This is not uncommon. Search around, the 52's strength is a myth.
@OCofthe3 I am in no way saying these guns are quality pieces, I just have had the chance to work with both the TT-33 and the CZ. The CZ's were made from competent gunsmiths, the TT-33s were made from what amounts to slave labor (out of cheap stamped steel no less). The roller mechanism allows it to shoot high pressure ammunition much like the MG.
@locknloadvideo It certainly is not a myth. The subgun ammo was used in the PPSH, and (when you can find it) it packs about 200 FPS more than the standard stuff.
thanks for the info, coz i've been thinking about getting one. very helpful
twb3459 3 weeks ago
i have this gun!
ZachManZ71 1 year ago
Nice review, thanks for the information.
malignantpoodle 1 year ago
what does "arsenaled" mean exactly? my cz has 2 divits... my barrel is heavily pitted how much will changing it affect the accuracy?
dirtTdude 1 year ago
@dirtTdude by arsenaled I mean, recondishioned, refurbished, sent back to the weapons arsenal and inspected and parts replaced as needed.
locknloadvideo 1 year ago
@locknloadvideo thanks! I got the new barrel for my cz, changed it and did some testing... changing the barrel does not seem to affect its accuracy
dirtTdude 1 year ago
I think the subgun ammo is a myth.
Gungeek 1 year ago
@Gungeek Really? I guess Ive never chronoed it nor pulled bullets and weighed the powder. Seems like the stuff on the 8rd strippers has quite a bit more felt recoil though. Why do you say that?
locknloadvideo 1 year ago
@locknloadvideo The Czech steel case stuff on chargers I find have the bullets and case stuck together and that drives up the pressure.I put them in my die and brake them apart.
Gungeek 1 year ago
@locknloadvideo
I think its a myth too. What sub-gun takes 8rd strippers? Its also a recipe for disaster to make special loads like this. I think there's just really poorly made surplus ammo out there.
Also, its been proven that the cz-52 is not as strong as the TT-33. Just look how thin the chamber is! CZ-52's are quite weak! I still love the gun though!
OCofthe3 1 year ago
@OCofthe3 The TT-33 borrows the weaker browning tilt barrel mechanism designed for lower pressure .45ACP and 9mm rounds. The CZ-52 borrows its cam lock design from the MG-42 which is one cannot argue about the rigidity of that design. Russian 7.62x25 ammunition for the PPSH was far hotter than those intended for the TT33.
ChrisPenta 3 weeks ago
@ChrisPenta I can argue that the CZ-52 is not a MG-42 and no comparison should be made between these two weapons other than how the mechanism works. There are 2 problems with the 52. The first one is how thin the bottom of the chamber is. The second is how all of the recoil forces load into the slide. I shot mostly Romanian ammo through my 52 and I developed a crack on the slide starting from the ejection port. This is not uncommon. Search around, the 52's strength is a myth.
OCofthe3 3 weeks ago
@OCofthe3 I am in no way saying these guns are quality pieces, I just have had the chance to work with both the TT-33 and the CZ. The CZ's were made from competent gunsmiths, the TT-33s were made from what amounts to slave labor (out of cheap stamped steel no less). The roller mechanism allows it to shoot high pressure ammunition much like the MG.
ChrisPenta 3 weeks ago
@ChrisPenta Also, Glock borrows this same tilt-to-lock action and uses it on their 357 sig chambered guns.
OCofthe3 3 weeks ago
@locknloadvideo It certainly is not a myth. The subgun ammo was used in the PPSH, and (when you can find it) it packs about 200 FPS more than the standard stuff.
ChrisPenta 3 weeks ago