The scandalous accusations have long since been proven false: see the film 'Transformation: The Life And Legacy of Werner Erhard" available on NetFlix. This man is one of the most important philosophers of our time, though he is still seen as a combination cult leader & California New Thought guru. The est training of old and the evolving Landmark Forum now both introduce crucial distinctions & then ask people to engage with them honestly. The result is a transformed way of being in the world.
As i have been studying the works of various persons, including Werner Erhard, Tony Robbins, LRon Hubbard, etc etc. I can see many of Werner's idea's as well as the others were influenced by prior people who wrote of simiar ideas, like the many people of the New Thought movement, among others.
you're like a thunderstorm, unpredictable. People are unpredictable, like a thunderstorm. Thunderstorm thunderstorm, people, unpredictable, people are like thunderstorms.....redundant, but I like
@Caliban201 when I worked on my masters degree in instructional media, the main thesis was: tell them what you are going to say, tell them, then tell them again.
why is it a'waste of time ' to engage my comments/ is that a dismissal of their validity? I did both the est training, the forum and live events w/ werner, fernando flores and hubert dreyfus
@Crebrakassassin why waste your energy on resenting @chris8lee's cynicism. It is what is. Again it is no different from calling the thunderstorm evil.
NOTHING means anything until we say it does and even then it only means something for us because we say it does.
I am curious .. of all commenters, how many actually TOOK the est Training? The Landmark Forum is NOT est @chris8lee and this communication from Werner predates the creation of Landmark. Werner as brand was NOT and is not associated with Landmark. Perhaps you calling the thunderstorm "evil" when what is true is that it is just a thunderstorm.
@Teddy- you don't see Werner speaking on YOUTUBE either..eg: it's a free medium and his and Landmark's lawyers vigorously protect and control what's released about him. He is a brilliant savant, and communicator. But whenever someone has a financial agenda in the wisdom marketplace, they have an incentive in controlling the "appearance" of their brand. He "appears" to you as the Source of this message. He's not disposed to be wholly forthright about his background and methods.
erhard is a crafty dude. He's a modern day Empedocles. He's a paid lecturer/teacher. He dresses up his explorations in existentialism and Socratic "midwifery'' and makes it look like he thought it up on his own. His style is both charismatic and long winded. I have studied his work for quite a while and find it refreshing to be able to study his sources--people who don't have his mercenary agenda.
@chris8lee Yeah.....except I have yet to see Socrates speaking on Youtube. And.....not sure who Empedocles is.....but he probably didn't shoot any video either.
though its getting onward to 30 years, Werner is the voice of this message in our lifetime.
@chris8lee I resent your cynicism, werner was very clear that he got the ideas from other thinkers a lot of the time, also he managed to combine these ideas in a way which created something unique, which really was his creation.
Werner is truly a brilliant man and his programs helped thousands of people. The video is great but it feels incomplete. If there is more, I would love to see it.
Excellent, thanks for the upload!
rainmon 1 week ago
The scandalous accusations have long since been proven false: see the film 'Transformation: The Life And Legacy of Werner Erhard" available on NetFlix. This man is one of the most important philosophers of our time, though he is still seen as a combination cult leader & California New Thought guru. The est training of old and the evolving Landmark Forum now both introduce crucial distinctions & then ask people to engage with them honestly. The result is a transformed way of being in the world.
Herm7es 3 months ago 5
Anyone have the 60 minutes video from 1991 ???
feelthefear73 4 months ago
Thank you for being born.
dallaselectras 6 months ago
As i have been studying the works of various persons, including Werner Erhard, Tony Robbins, LRon Hubbard, etc etc. I can see many of Werner's idea's as well as the others were influenced by prior people who wrote of simiar ideas, like the many people of the New Thought movement, among others.
upcycle 6 months ago
Hi durdenwasright. Thanks for posting. I used to have this tape but don't anymore. Can you email the full audio file?
Lgold9898
spincolor 6 months ago
Could you send me the complete video please?
urpower69 7 months ago
you're like a thunderstorm, unpredictable. People are unpredictable, like a thunderstorm. Thunderstorm thunderstorm, people, unpredictable, people are like thunderstorms.....redundant, but I like
Caliban201 7 months ago
@Caliban201 when I worked on my masters degree in instructional media, the main thesis was: tell them what you are going to say, tell them, then tell them again.
rainmon 1 week ago
Werner changed my life.
gopherandme2 7 months ago
for everyone that keeps asking me about getting the full recording check the discription
durdenwasright 7 months ago
why is it a'waste of time ' to engage my comments/ is that a dismissal of their validity? I did both the est training, the forum and live events w/ werner, fernando flores and hubert dreyfus
chris8lee 7 months ago
@Crebrakassassin why waste your energy on resenting @chris8lee's cynicism. It is what is. Again it is no different from calling the thunderstorm evil.
NOTHING means anything until we say it does and even then it only means something for us because we say it does.
PerfectEnergy 7 months ago
I am curious .. of all commenters, how many actually TOOK the est Training? The Landmark Forum is NOT est @chris8lee and this communication from Werner predates the creation of Landmark. Werner as brand was NOT and is not associated with Landmark. Perhaps you calling the thunderstorm "evil" when what is true is that it is just a thunderstorm.
PerfectEnergy 7 months ago
Hi durdenwasright,
Can you please send me the whole lecture?
Thanks
Dinesh
dineshnarwani 7 months ago
@Teddy- you don't see Werner speaking on YOUTUBE either..eg: it's a free medium and his and Landmark's lawyers vigorously protect and control what's released about him. He is a brilliant savant, and communicator. But whenever someone has a financial agenda in the wisdom marketplace, they have an incentive in controlling the "appearance" of their brand. He "appears" to you as the Source of this message. He's not disposed to be wholly forthright about his background and methods.
chris8lee 7 months ago 2
erhard is a crafty dude. He's a modern day Empedocles. He's a paid lecturer/teacher. He dresses up his explorations in existentialism and Socratic "midwifery'' and makes it look like he thought it up on his own. His style is both charismatic and long winded. I have studied his work for quite a while and find it refreshing to be able to study his sources--people who don't have his mercenary agenda.
chris8lee 7 months ago
@chris8lee Yeah.....except I have yet to see Socrates speaking on Youtube. And.....not sure who Empedocles is.....but he probably didn't shoot any video either.
though its getting onward to 30 years, Werner is the voice of this message in our lifetime.
teddyherzog 7 months ago 2
@chris8lee I resent your cynicism, werner was very clear that he got the ideas from other thinkers a lot of the time, also he managed to combine these ideas in a way which created something unique, which really was his creation.
Crebralassassin 7 months ago 2
Please share where the full lectures may be downloaded/purchased from.
RUlegaleagle 8 months ago
This is a very good lecture. I have all the tapes for this lecture but need to transfer it to CD.
dallaselectras 8 months ago
I have all of the 3.5 hours. It is amazing. Need to convert if from tape to CD.
dallaselectras 9 months ago in playlist Erhard
I love this "stand back from yourself far enough"
Crebralassassin 9 months ago
I love a bit of Werner. Werners awesome. Could you send me the file please?
Crebralassassin 9 months ago
This is just a clip from the lecture "The Heart Of The Matter". The full thing is 3.5 hours so i cant get it all on youtube. Email me if you want it
durdenwasright 1 year ago 2
@durdenwasright
Hi durdenwasright. Thank you for posting a clip of Heart of the Matter by Werner Erdard.
I'd appreciate very much if you could send me the whole 3.5 hour lecture.
Thanks a lot
Adam
adamhashmalator 10 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Not sure how to e-mail from youtube...
I e-mailed to durdenwasright@gmail.com
Hoping that is correct.
Thank you for posting!!!
I'd luv the 3.5 hour clip
erinfall 8 months ago
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@durdenwasright
Hi durdenwasright,
Can you please send me the whole lecture?
Thanks
Dinesh
dineshnarwani 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@durdenwasright I am intersted in receiving a copy of this lecture. can you assist me? Keoni.rivera@gmail.com
rjohne 7 months ago
Werner is truly a brilliant man and his programs helped thousands of people. The video is great but it feels incomplete. If there is more, I would love to see it.
MrHschumann 1 year ago 2