This asshole pig sprays people just sitting there with a chemical weapon like he is watering his wife's flowers and he only gets called out in the media cause he was mean to some sodomite he once worked with?
Hey H_O_M_O_S sue this 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators,nor idolaters,nor adulterers,nor effeminate,nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind,as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
@bostoltz One day they'll be playing bagpipes for that piece of shit--assuming security guards get the bagpipes routine. And I'll be sure to knock back a few cold brewskies before I visit his grave, if you get my drift.
Asymmetric response only engenders confusion, anger, and hate. When it is committed by the people whom we pay to protect us, then we began to wonder what to do about it. That officer not only shot himself in the foot, he did so to every police officer. The good cops sustain the greatest injury, because they try to mitigate. They really do care, and want to serve and protect. Their job has gotten much more difficult, as they have to protect us from themselves. Their position is untenable. Shame.
@cl3ify I got to say ... If a "good cop" is really good, he'd find a new line of work, instead of just following orders like a good little nazi. I used to be a stock broker until I realized I was pretty much legally robbing people by feeding the machine and collecting my two bits. I now have a shit job making shit money but I can sleep at night. I don't feel bad for any cop. If a cop wants to be good, he'll do his part to tear down this evil system we live under.
As the protesters were peacefully resisting, a violent response was inappropriate. At sit ins, the procedure is to haul them off. It's a hassle, but that's what we pay public servants for, not revenge
@cl3ify If they had NOT had the police surrounded, that would have been "peacefully resisting". If they had not restricted the police's movement, none of this would have happened.
The police's duty is not to blindly protect. The police's duty is to enforce the law.
Police aren't soldiers. The training is diametric, or used to be. The duty of a police officer is to protect. If that means backing off for a moment to save injury, that's the call. Soldiers attack.
The underlying theme of this situation is that most people are disenfranchised, and desperate. We are, at best, ignored by our own government, and at worst, actually blamed for the crisis. Regular people did not crash our economy. They don.t have that kind of power. The people who did engineer this mess are the very people that we must turn to for help. They're not interested. Shut up and go away is not just insulting, it's infuriating. We are on our own, now. Most of us are unrepresented.
This incident stands out from the rest. New York, D.C., Oakland; few people really care about that violence. The police can bust heads day and night while barely making the news. We expect, and are unmoved by, police brutality. The issue with this incident is not the brutality, it's the cruelty. The way that he methodically tortured those students was cruel. That is what caused the outrage that is missing from the many other examples of misuse of force. We are cruel, now. How can that be OK?
When I first looked up the pepper spray incident, there were many sites to choose from. Most of them were filled with mostly ' fuck the hippies' or ' kill the pigs'.This site had far more thoughtful and intelligent posts.That's why I keep checking it. Here, is the hope that I have for our country. It's good to know that in the sea of hate and bigotry on the web, there is an oasis of intellect. This vital information infrastructure is our shield against ignorance. Hat's off to the site managers.
Suggesting that I should have come when the law was written is an empty argument. I'm not rich. If I showed up when a law was written, and tried to exercise my freedom of expression, I would be led to a ' free speech zone' ,where I would be ignored, or led away in handcuffs. I have been disenfranchised from my government, like most of us. Now, the majority is the minority. Our only recourse is to gather in numbers, that we might be heard. Take that too, and we are merely meat for the machine.
People have been calling the bloodshed in Syria a civil war, even though the government there has not declared one. What is civil war? Does it have to be official, or are running battles an indication
Every member of our great nation is in the uncomfortable position of having to judge that action. Either public servants must serve and protect the public, or guard the public. If the central authority is so frightened of it's citizens that any act is excused, then that changes the discussion. Who are we, as a nation? Are we to be ruled by fear? Are most of us defacto enemies of the state, as the broad surveillance implies? Is U.S. citizenship suspicious, now? Presumed guilty?
' The law against rape is wrong ' ? What the fuck is wrong with you? One law is not all law. Have you ever tried to call your congressman? It's a very expensive call. Changing a law is beyond the freedom of 99 percent. The right to peacefully assemble, and protest, is the only recourse for most of us. Extreme examples are a tried and true method to minimize a real problem. and yes, that violent crime committed by that public servant was torture, as the screams prove. Blame the torturer.
@cl3ify Did you take that literally? My point is that your entire argument goes like this: "I personally believe this law is wrong, therefore the police should not do their job."
No one is trying to stop you from protesting. You just need to make sure the authorities are informed when you're gathering a large amount of people.
No, blame the ones who broke the law, surrounded the police, tried to force them to hand over people under arrest and did not back off when being warned.
@MartinDenStore I was just doing my job, following orders, is the cop out used by far too many predators. Anyone can order anyone to do anything. The awesome aspect that distinguishes us from machines is judgement. Robots follow any order, how ever vile. Humans have the capacity to know right from wrong. To claim 'My job' while torturing people is to deny humanity, theirs and yours. Following orders in no way relieves one of the responsibility of any act. That officer did it. He's guilty.
@MartinDenStore NO, I did not take that literally. I recognized the attempt to excuse that violent crime by comparing the victims to rapist. There is no real comparison. That form of 'Logic' is used to allow anything. We need more than that, now. Scroll down the comments. 'burn', 'kill'. We are literally facing CIVIL WAR. What are you trying to do? Issue a call to arms? You obviously have a brain. Think. At this point, that one idiot has provided a rally point. A weapon. Kids screaming in pain.
@cl3ify Also, please don't presume that I dismiss you out of hand. I am relieved that someone is willing to present an opposing view without resorting to 'kill the pigs'. Every trial needs a defense.
@cl3ify Fact remains you think he was doing something wrong, because YOU personally don't like the law he is enforcing. You can't come NOW and blame him for this. You should have come when the law was written.
We are not facing civil war.
They were not kids, and they were the reason the cops had to show up, and they were the ones attacking the police. Not the other way around.
You think the police should ignore calls of alarm so that they won't have to defend themselves?
@MartinDenStore There are legitimate ways to enforce a law. That was not one of them. The whole 'Us versus them' nonsense is getting out of hand. Acts like that only add fuel. Yes, we are facing civil war. Tens of millions desperate people will do that. Our campuses and parks are literal battle zones, complete with bullets and bombs. Another heinous act by public servants who are supposed to prevent such behavior might tip us, such as the D.C./ L.A. riots. We have put our own gun to our head.
@MartinDenStore I personally don't care about what law he was to enforce. Plain cruelty is not the method that a civilized society employs. To paraphrase ' a culture may be judged by the condition of it's prisoners.' Our culture is reverting to the malevolence that we worked so hard to leave behind. We are a war nation. Our national anthem is a war song. We have wars on drugs, illiteracy, poverty,... and now, a never ending war on terrorism. War provides emergency powers. Law is nullified.
@cl3ify It's not "plain cruelty" if you are the one being attacked. Because fact is, the police was surrounded, and even if they were inflicting no physical pain, put yourself in the position of the police, vastly outnumbered by people chanting "fuck you for doing your job". It's a psychologically stress-/hurtful situation, and releasing the arrested people was not the solution. I can't see many other ways to go about in a situation like that, than to strike back.
@MartinDenStore You keep talking about the people chanting at the police. Do you pay attention at all. It was only a small part of the crowd chanting fuck the police, and the rest of the people stopped that chant pretty quickly.
It does not matter what they chant, words are not violence. The police often put themselves in situation like that just to give themselves a made up reason to start using violence on the people.
@MartinDenStore I have been surrounded. I don't respond well to criminal gangs. How to respond is a choice. I chose to nonviolently reason with them. That public servant chose otherwise.My method worked, surprisingly enough. His did not. I made my choice. He made his. If words hurt his feelings to the point of actual injury, he was obviously unqualified for that duty.To claim no choice is to already have made the choice. He did not have to be cruel. He chose to be.
@cl3ify After countless times of asking them to step aside, what should he have done?
It's not his feelings that are hurt. It's the fact that he is surrounded by people screaming at him. Even if there were only a few people chanting "Fuck the Police" they were still part of the crowd surrounding the police. The other ones also clearly stated that they would have the police surrounded until the police released the arrested ones. This is restriction of freedom.
What happened to the constitutional right to peaceful assembly? I wish that those officers had exercised that right. Those kids were not rioting, yet they were violently attacked, as if we commoners no longer have any recourse to address real, and immediate, grievances. Shut up and go away is not how this nation was formed. Our founders were painfully aware of the powder keg that such an attitude produced. If we are forced to be silent, consume, and die, then BOOM ! Yell some. It can save a life
Permission to protest. What an odd concept, like the ' Free Speech Zones ' that have become a popular way to minimize free speech. As this entire nation used to be a free speech zone, so was the right to protest considered to be a patriotic duty. That was the point of this country. We were obliged to speak out, so that the government would not become insulated from the people that it was sworn to serve. Admitting the problem is the first step. If that step is forbidden, then we are negligent.
@MartinDenStore Man, you reaching too far. I'm no anarchist. In fact, I fix anarchy. If you expect me to condone theft because I don't like violent crimes, against anyone, you've got a lot to learn. The Law in this country is now very fluid. No one is sure of The Law. That's the problem. To use that vagary as an excuse to publicly torture OUR OWN CITIZENS is inexcusable.
I watch the destruction of my country, and wonder, how far will we go? All of the way to the very edge? Over it? Are we so lost that the only solution that we may see is violence, against ourselves. Are we no longer the United States? If we are not United, what kind of States are we in? Police States? Shall we have half of our nation guarding the other half? Our country is not just one percent versus ninety nine percent. We are families, friends, and neighbors, aren't we? What matters more, law?
Hypothetical wonder--- When does civil strife become civil war? Typically, when military troops are officially deployed against a nation's own civilians, en mass. This issue is clouded with the para-militarization of our civil forces. If para-military is routinely deployed against the citizens that pay for it, would that be a defacto civil war? Does a civil war have to be officially declared to be official? This question seems particularly relevant given the current program of disinformation.
All of the madness of late is like wondering which arm of an octopus just smacked us.The hits keep coming, each at the appropriate time to destroy a liberty. How can this be coordinated? Getting a bunch of people to work together, and keep the association secret, is extremely difficult. It's no wonder that many people feel that there must be some arch evil calling the shots. The pattern of our demise is old, and standard. We study history, and yet repeat it, anyway.Maybe the end really is near.
I'm not into conspiracy theories, but it is becoming more difficult to deny that the economic collapse is accidental. Like Germany between the world wars, we seem to be intentionally devaluing our country to make ourselves desperate. Desperate people make poor, and limited choices.That seems to be the point of all of this. Divide, and conquer. Neighbor against neighbor. Who may we turn to? Public servants, such as the officers in this video? For their protection, we must act as slaves, and kneel
To the point- The same tactic that we used abroad is now being employed here. Somehow, we have blamed the economic collapse on poor people, even though poor people don't have the power. The true threat of the Reagan Iran-Contra scandal was the creation of mini covert agencies that were self funding through the sale of drugs and guns. Now, NO ONE knows how many secret agencies are operating in our country.The secret police are so secret that even they don't know the extent. Another hidden cost.
Regarding Pakistan, it's duplicity speaks for itself, and yet, we pretended not to know. We are playing Pakistan and India against each other in a suicide game. Now, we will have India manufacture flying death drones, so that we can use them to strike for us. We have given the same death drones to Iran, to show a threat. Now that Iran possesses stealthy autonomous flying weapons platforms that might be loaded with deceit, we must attack. Again, in the land of the free, we will have no choice.
Many, many, many people have waved the sign BUSH KNEW. Perhaps he did, but I think that G.W. was the little boy in the room, trying not to get yelled at by his dad's friends. Yes, it was Saudi Arabia that hit us, and yes, we somehow blamed the hit on Iraq, our ally against Iran. The Bush = Bin Laden business tie does seem convenient, and manufacturing an enemy is a tried and true method of gaining control. When a real enemy won't strike, pay a friend to do it, and offer to SELL protection.
This is the Face of a COWARD, The face of those who were once sworn to uphold the Law but now protect the interests of Americas Corperate Elite. This is the face of an organized group of thugs, paid for by our tax dollars yet they are the same Cowards who brutalize Peaceful Protestors who are exercising the Constitutional Rights. This is the first { and most disposible} line of defense propped up to protect the NEW FASCIST REGIME. The Police in America have become AN ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.
What can be said about the intellect of a university chancellor that would wield such violent hate? At U.C. Davis, Oppression 101 is a course that is free to all.Why would people feed their children to a predator, such as her? All that the students have learned there is that recitation is safer than thinking. If you think that something is wrong, even dangerously wrong, support it anyway, or be a target. You're either with her, or against her. She is at war, with you. Surrender, or suffer!
@cl3ify It is the same intellect that backed GEORGE BUSH Jr in the early days of his FASCIST AGENDA. The alarming number of American Citizens with the same Hatred that cheered when Jr announced that we would retaliate against those who brought down the TWIN TOWERS. Yet we attacked Iraq, when if fact the WHITEHOUSE should have been set a blaze. Key players of the Bush Administration should have been arrested along with the co conspirators from Israel, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
By slurring his victims, the police officer elevated his violent attack to the level of a hate crime. That is typically a federal offense. Where is the authority that has been entrusted to investigate hate crimes? What is the status of the investigation? What Non Governmental Organizations are assisting in the investigation, such as the A.C.L.U.? Do hate crimes matter anymore?
How shall we survive this state of corporate anarchy? How may we be free in a corporately owned and operated nation? We are burning United States books. We are burning United States citizens.We are occupied by the one percent. Our country has been sold to the lowest bidder. We have done all of this ti ourselves, and for what? A small savings at a place like Walmart? Once again, we profit from slave labor. Didn't we win a war against that? How could we forget, so quickly? Don't we teach history?
Public servants should never, ever be allowed to prey upon the public. When they do, they are public predators, and the common public has no recourse, no protection under the law. That police officer is a documented violent criminal, and he enjoys the protection under the law that he denied his victims, at the public's expense.We all paid for that crime, and we will continue to pay for it, with money, and blood. We are occupied.
all they do is talk about freedom of speech but as soon as you say something that isnt in the socialists handbook they result to violence and try to shut you up you liberals are so stupid you cant make up your own minds you have to follow the in crowd you hate government yet you have a hard on for socialism everything you all say and do is backwards enjoy that socialist nightmare idiots
about time an officer had the balls to say something call me what you want i hate gays why cause there sick and twisted and im tired of the libtards pushing the whole gay thing no they shouldnt have rights there not a race or religion there freaks who have taken over just about everything its not a lifestyle its a mental disorder the same thing with liberals read all the comments i get from them they have nothing to stand on so there gonna result to name calling like nazi or facsits
The one solid fact to come from this incident is that police may attack us, in front of everyone, and be protected for it. It doesn't matter if the victims were gay, or not. All that matters now is - How much money do you have? Protection under the law is expensive. Police are above the law, as this evidence clearly demonstrates. We have been warned.
Really how so? What a cop did three years ago combined with what he did now doesn't show a pattern, or reflect his character? It is absolutely pertinent, and if I were a student at UC Davis or parent of a student you best believe my tuition money would be "talking", and telling them to fire this fascist pig
@Solange822001 "It is absolutely pertinent, and if I were a student at UC Davis or parent of a student you best believe my tuition money would be "talking","
Isnt that the problem in the first place -- if these students could let there "tution money do the talking" they why did they protest in the first place.. why not simply take your tution money elsewhere..
@badpanda84 Because Americans have the right to congregate and protest "peacefully" what needs to be changed, not just walk away and let it get worse. But there is away's some looser cop that has to stand out from the rest or the actual good cops, and try to illegally take those rights away. He was insighting to riot, and they were not. Pike is a coward, and un-American.
@applepiebetty "But there is away's some looser cop that has to stand out from the rest or the actual good cops,"
Actually that so called "loser cop" what probably doing exactly what all the other cops wanted to do in that situation but didnt have the gut to do it.
@badpanda84 Your in the last semester, your classes are half done, you can't just leave and get into any collage right now. Nothing they did was probable going to change it, but they wanted to protest, so the school knew how hard this is on them. They have the right to protest, and weren't hurting anything. So why go all Genghis Khan on them? These kids did nothing aggressive before, during, or after! The school is ran by bullies.
@badpanda84 To this film. I have seen no other. This was a sit in... It was announced that the cops were encircled and felt they could not pass. Well they did with no problem, and not one was hit. There was space for the cops to walk anywhere they headed to.
@marijuanamanfan421 You are somewhat right, there are many situations where although the cops' actions arent justified, the citizen is in the wrong too for provoking them or causing trouble. But peaceful protest does not apply. It is a big part of this nation's history and an important part of our democracy. Protesting peacefully should never be equated with "pissing cops off".
wow whats rong with the world people take stuff to far what just to prove a point or for a gereater cause thats what i wana know ? can some one tell me ?
They were clearly protesting lawlessly and when asked to cooperate with the law, they maliciously didn't. They risked their heads and got what they deserved. If you asked me, they should of been taken off camera and into a police van and savagely beaten.
Arm yourselves These are not peace officers they are cold blooded killers.The cops in America are Cold blooded killers.There are very few cops left that uphold thier Oath of office. Most decent police officers have handed in thier badges. Understand these are not police they are mercenaries.Someone who will do anything for money. Most cops have to be athiest's in order to get hired and have criminal backrounds including drugs,rape yes and even Murder they are not Good American Citizens
@ronpaulfreedom1 there are skinheads(neo-nazis), then there are guys who keep their hair short for safety/looks. Most police are ex-military and have kept their hair short for years. These police officers are not skinheads.
@Dan00bindahouse You can't fire someone solely for being gay, it isn't considered protected speach to discriminate in employment against gays or any other protected group. Not saying this is what happened, just saying that is what the law suit is about.
Skin head Cops..Thier Sargent or captain whoever she is agreed it was right untill the media got involved and her job was on the line..Police need to stand down ..This is America not a friggen police state..These kind of cops are dangerous to our entire Nation and should be thrown off the police force and out the door head first !!!
Let me tell you about Officer Chang (AKA the gay cop). He was fired for causing between 3-6 car collisions while on duty and being an overall liability. When he got fired he threw a bitch fit and sued in hopes of getting some form of severance. He started a witch hunt in the process, claiming that officers in the department called him homophobic slurs. After ALL THIS he had the nerve to want his JOB back, the same place where he supposedly suffered "emotional damage". Oh and btw I live in Davis
@Robertjcksn40 Is there any where to get more info on this lawsuit or his firing? If what you say is true, then obviously he is unreliable. However, I still wouldn't say this gives him a pass in the pepper spray attack
While I'm not going to take a stance on whether or not the officer used excessive force, there is absolutely no correlation between him being anti-gay (true or untrue) and the incident involving the pepper spraying of students. Both incidents may be appalling but are in no way related and the fact that this story aired is just another reason why people shouldn't be sheeple to the media.
@styk182 I think it does. I think he is a police officer who doesn't have the judgement or values to hold a badge, and both these incidents prove that. I don't see how anyone can say otherwise. They are both actions by one person. It all goes to judging his character and temperament. Lets not forget that cops have a huge responsibility, they have more power than most, not to mention deadly weapons. You really think they should be exempt from having their character or patience judged?
@jbriggs06 Did you miss the part where the lawsuit is "ongoing" and was filed years ago? The news is just bringing it to light because of the pepper spray incident, it is not the gay cop who up and decided today to sue.
@MartinDenStore not really.. shows his a redneck nazi in a uniform.. hates gays, police brutality ,(most likely hates minorities) sounds like a pussy nazi to me
@Silentsam7532 Have you even seen footage of the pepper spraying? The protesters had the police surrounded and broke the law, so the police warned them, several (many) times, that they would have to use force unless the protesters moved out of the way. The police is here to enforce the law and it was exactly what they did. This guy was just the one who had to do the "dirty" work. (As a side note, many of those who got pepper-sprayed had chanted "Fuck the police!" just minutes earlier.)
@MartinDenStore Warning that you will commit a crime does not excuse the crime. With freedom of speech, we may not attack each other over words. To excuse that violent attack of those public servants upon the public is exactly that. An excuse. Dirty work, indeed.
@MartinDenStore Yes many times. i see how the kids sitting on the ground hardly had them contained and were easily stepped over.
I also understand that the designers of the peppar spray have said that is not how they intended for it to be used and testing for safe use does not take into account that kind of use.
I also understand that the police are only to use force like that when someone else is using force or going to harm someone. I also understand that chanting is not violence.
@Silentsam7532 Their behavior was threatening, even if the odds of them actually hurting a police officer directly was really low. The reason they couldn't just step over them was that they had people under arrest with them. The reason the protesters surrounded the police was to force the police to release the arrested ones.
After countless warnings, the police have all the rights to use the weakest kind of force they could, to stop the threatening law-breakers.
@MartinDenStore The behaviour of the police accross America is a disgraxce, and so are the actions or the government in coordinating the police through Homland security to attack these protesters.
The police had no reason to arrest anyone and the people were right to try and stop the police.
The protesters do not have to stay within the law, they actually have a duty to protest outside the law. Democracy demands that they do. They should actually group up and surround police stations.
@Silentsam7532 You nailed it. Combining civil and military force into D.H.S. changes the nature of our country. Used to be, at least officially, military intelligence agencies were forbidden from civil action. Now, it is demanded. We blamed the C.I.A. for the failure of 9-11, and then gave them the country. Being a police state is now an open secret, known, but not admitted. See you in the camp.
@Silentsam7532 It is easy to seek permission to protest. These protesters didn't and consequently, after several warnings, the police arrested a few of them. Just because you don't like this law, doesn't mean the police should not enforce it.
You're actually arguing that one should be able to attack the police, while they should not get to defend themselves? The people that go to work every day, knowing they might have to risk their lives to save the life of someone they don't know?
@MartinDenStore The police did far more than arrest a few of them. That officer actually tortured them on world wide T.V. No good deed allows that, as if the often misunderstood concept of Karma applies. To claim that it is okay to torture the public because they sometimes protect the public is malign excuse. I know cops, and I don't have the luxury of thinking that all cops are bad, or good. Cops are people too, with all that entails. That official violent crime endangers everyone, even cops.
@MartinDenStore The idea of seeking permission to protest is stupid. Is that what people in other countries who lived under worse conditions should have done?
Read the words of the founders of America. They had very different ideas. The Occupy protesters are more enlightened than the founders by staying peaceful. Being disruptive is not the same as being violent. When the police are allowed to act that way to stop disruption America is lost.
@Silentsam7532 Other countries are irrelevant in this case. They would have gotten the permission if they'd only asked for it. The reason there is such a law is the same as for concerts and other large public events. It's a precautionary measure since large groups of people means a larger risk of danger for everyone in that area. This law exists, and if you don't like it, don't blame the cops. Blame the ones who wrote the law.
@MartinDenStore No, I doubt people living under dictators would be given the right to protest if they asked for it.
The students where all on campus and the campus is designed to hold its student populations. The idea that they were breaking laws by being at school is stupid. The cops had no reason to be there and the school staff that called the police have partially admitted that doing so was a mistake.
I blame the people who are ignorant enough to not resist when their nation falls apart.
@Silentsam7532 As I said, other countries are not relevant. If they had been refused their right to protest, THEN your argumentation would be valid.
Even student organisations have to request permission to host larger gatherings.
Still, you're putting the blame on the wrong persons. If you truly believe the law is wrong, blame the one creating the law, not the one enforcing it.
To make an extreme example: I may think that a law against rape is stupid. Wouldn't you like the cops to stop me?
@MartinDenStore Holding large gatherings and protesting are different things. Protesters do often get legal permission to protest, or at least try. It obviously can not always be done that way. The right to protest is above laws like that, especially in a country like America.
Yes the cops are not to blame for the problems in America, but the police are taking orders from the wrong side. They are accepting large donations from banks and often taking second jobs as private security for banks.
@Silentsam7532 If you claim to be above the law, you better not complain when there are consequences. No matter what law it is.
Their job is to protect two things: Lives, and Property. Like it or not, but their job is to restrict the freedom of people, according to agreed laws. Don't ever blame the ones doing their job in a situation like this. Blame the ones who told him how to do his job, or the ones who attacked him for doing his job.
@MartinDenStore I never claimed to be above the law, I said the right to protest was above those laws, and yes the right to protest is above all law. Democracy can not exist without the right to protest.
In history there has been many times when police joined with the people in protest. In case you didnt know the police are people and can make decisions. Just as soldiers are going to protest, the police should as well.
It is sad that so many Americans want authority instead of liberty now.
@Silentsam7532 All of those soldiers coming home. Thank god for that. Remember last time? Tens of thousands of traumatized people suddenly thrust back into our society. Many of the people on the civil rights lines were vets. Where will they stand this time? On both sides, again? How many are like Kerry, and how many are like McVeigh? We're about to find out.
@Silentsam7532 You claim that one who protests is above the law, and should not have to bear any consequences, even if they inflict psychological damage on others.
So, tell me how you lost your job to strike a blow for this cause!
@MartinDenStore I never claimed that protesters are above the law. I keep saying very clearly that the right to protest is above law. You love to make up extra stuff that has nothing to do with this.
I never lost my job. Why would you assume that? It is strange that no matter how many times protesters talk about being at Occupy on their days off, or how some have two jobs and still can barely get by, and then have idiots yell at them to get a job.
@Silentsam7532 If you don't think being surrounded by a large amount of people, yelling at you, telling you you're doing your job wrong, and yelling "Fuck people with your profession", is distressing, then you're missing something. Not all violence is physical.
@MartinDenStore It is distressing, but it is not violent. If you think the police needed to be there to arrest people and cause all the violence then you have very strange views of freedom.
The police can not lawfully respond with violence when there is no one being violent. The police were the only people to do anything wrong that day. The protesters did nothing wrong.
the cop did nothing wrong.. this is bull crap. and BEFORE YOU GET MAD AT ME. watch this video: watch?v=hhPdH3wE0_Y&feature=player_embedded#! and tell me if you still think the students are the "victims"
@hwinans94 The video is just a collection of clips. I went to UC Davis and I know that the protesters did nothing wrong. The assembly was completely law. I know Pike quite well, he is in fact the reason I left the school. He harass's students regularly, even to the point of following them around grocery stores. The campus will not do anything to him.
This is such a waste of our time! The retarded students were holding the police hostage and refused to let them leave. AFTER the police gave multiple warnings that they were going to use pepper spray, the students remained there chanting "fuck the police". There was nothing peaceful about their protest and they deserved to be pepper sprayed. The pepper spray incident has nothing to do with "anti-gay" slurs. This stupid propaganda is only empowering these hippy students to do more stupid things.
@Jahocolips Gasp - students sitting on the ground were 'holding the police hostage'!!! LOL - only in your own warped fantasy. You're entitled to your own opinion - not your own set of so-called "facts'. And sorry to hear you hate one of the principles America was founded on - freedom of speech. You might be better suited for a place like Iran or Saudi Arabia.
@Jahocolips Um, yeah - says the person who thinks sitting on the ground is a form of taking police 'hostage!!" LOL..... You began with hysteria and lies and your response followed up with a non-response. Just what I expected!
@TheTruthHurts9999 Look, I'm a firm supporter of the OWS movement and its clear you are as well, but you're misguided if you think encircling police officers and telling them "give us what we want and we'll let you leave" is a form of nonviolent protest. Not only did they restrain police against their will (exactly what they accuse the police of doing to them) but they broke the law while doing it. I just don't want other OWS supporters to get ideas from these guys.
@Jahocolips So to recap you are for pepper spraying non-violent protesters, against freedom of speech, for making up stories (ie the Police were NOT held 'hostage') , and contrary to your other beliefs - totally for the OWS movement. OK! You are one CONFUSED person.
@Jahocolips its all the damn media stories and how twisted this gets. No one sees the whole thing just the edited parts that make the cops look bad and the "poor protesters" look like the victims. SMH
@Jahocolips I believe it was "shame on you," not "fuck the police"
As in "Shame on you for employing Third Reich tactics to squelch out the first amendment" And hostages? I think not. The Uc Davis Police force had a secure perimeter of the entire area, those cops could've gotten in and out of there unscathed.
Excessive force implies that he was actually doing his job when he sprayed those kids. Clearly he wasn't doing his job because in any police manual you'll find an entire section on pepper spray, and they clearly state that pepper spray is a tool for subduing violent suspects, not dispersing nonviolent crowds. This man's job was to know this before using it, so any way you argue it he was derelict of duty when he sprayed these protesters and he should be charged with assault with a weapon.
@fram4153 Well, it is also against the law to disregaurd the police, and from the raw footage shot at this event, the students were given MORE than one warning to get the fuck out. So if they did not listen, then they deserved what they got.
Lt. John PIke is one jacked up, ready to push the trigger at all times kinda guy. You know, the type that would blast twenty rounds into your grandma if she tapped him on the shoulder to ask for directions...
This asshole pig sprays people just sitting there with a chemical weapon like he is watering his wife's flowers and he only gets called out in the media cause he was mean to some sodomite he once worked with?
FastBrian1 18 hours ago
Hey H_O_M_O_S sue this 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators,nor idolaters,nor adulterers,nor effeminate,nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind,as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
OBAMABInlaDENrublind 18 hours ago
I hate this guy so much you just dont know how..
StKetoiL 18 hours ago
So if we are communist all of the sudden we all make 40k a year. But not for long.
bkl139 1 day ago
Occupy Earth.
bmw200000 2 days ago
Fucking hippies.
bradlahsheelds 2 days ago
if that cop would do the same shit here in germany he certainly would lose his job. fucking psychopath
bostoltz 4 days ago 2
@bostoltz One day they'll be playing bagpipes for that piece of shit--assuming security guards get the bagpipes routine. And I'll be sure to knock back a few cold brewskies before I visit his grave, if you get my drift.
fantom58 3 days ago
Asymmetric response only engenders confusion, anger, and hate. When it is committed by the people whom we pay to protect us, then we began to wonder what to do about it. That officer not only shot himself in the foot, he did so to every police officer. The good cops sustain the greatest injury, because they try to mitigate. They really do care, and want to serve and protect. Their job has gotten much more difficult, as they have to protect us from themselves. Their position is untenable. Shame.
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@cl3ify I got to say ... If a "good cop" is really good, he'd find a new line of work, instead of just following orders like a good little nazi. I used to be a stock broker until I realized I was pretty much legally robbing people by feeding the machine and collecting my two bits. I now have a shit job making shit money but I can sleep at night. I don't feel bad for any cop. If a cop wants to be good, he'll do his part to tear down this evil system we live under.
FastBrian1 18 hours ago
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That my stupid liberal atheist is why you honor respect love and worship the 2nd amendment.
jacosoft666 1 week ago
As the protesters were peacefully resisting, a violent response was inappropriate. At sit ins, the procedure is to haul them off. It's a hassle, but that's what we pay public servants for, not revenge
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@cl3ify that cops should be dead fuckign decaptiated.
jacosoft666 1 week ago
@cl3ify If they had NOT had the police surrounded, that would have been "peacefully resisting". If they had not restricted the police's movement, none of this would have happened.
The police's duty is not to blindly protect. The police's duty is to enforce the law.
MartinDenStore 1 week ago
@MartinDenStore Do you honestly believe that those police were in physical danger?
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@cl3ify Not very much so, but that's not what matters. As already said, not all crimes are physically hurting people.
MartinDenStore 1 week ago
Police aren't soldiers. The training is diametric, or used to be. The duty of a police officer is to protect. If that means backing off for a moment to save injury, that's the call. Soldiers attack.
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The underlying theme of this situation is that most people are disenfranchised, and desperate. We are, at best, ignored by our own government, and at worst, actually blamed for the crisis. Regular people did not crash our economy. They don.t have that kind of power. The people who did engineer this mess are the very people that we must turn to for help. They're not interested. Shut up and go away is not just insulting, it's infuriating. We are on our own, now. Most of us are unrepresented.
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This incident stands out from the rest. New York, D.C., Oakland; few people really care about that violence. The police can bust heads day and night while barely making the news. We expect, and are unmoved by, police brutality. The issue with this incident is not the brutality, it's the cruelty. The way that he methodically tortured those students was cruel. That is what caused the outrage that is missing from the many other examples of misuse of force. We are cruel, now. How can that be OK?
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When I first looked up the pepper spray incident, there were many sites to choose from. Most of them were filled with mostly ' fuck the hippies' or ' kill the pigs'.This site had far more thoughtful and intelligent posts.That's why I keep checking it. Here, is the hope that I have for our country. It's good to know that in the sea of hate and bigotry on the web, there is an oasis of intellect. This vital information infrastructure is our shield against ignorance. Hat's off to the site managers.
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Suggesting that I should have come when the law was written is an empty argument. I'm not rich. If I showed up when a law was written, and tried to exercise my freedom of expression, I would be led to a ' free speech zone' ,where I would be ignored, or led away in handcuffs. I have been disenfranchised from my government, like most of us. Now, the majority is the minority. Our only recourse is to gather in numbers, that we might be heard. Take that too, and we are merely meat for the machine.
cl3ify 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
People have been calling the bloodshed in Syria a civil war, even though the government there has not declared one. What is civil war? Does it have to be official, or are running battles an indication
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Every member of our great nation is in the uncomfortable position of having to judge that action. Either public servants must serve and protect the public, or guard the public. If the central authority is so frightened of it's citizens that any act is excused, then that changes the discussion. Who are we, as a nation? Are we to be ruled by fear? Are most of us defacto enemies of the state, as the broad surveillance implies? Is U.S. citizenship suspicious, now? Presumed guilty?
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' The law against rape is wrong ' ? What the fuck is wrong with you? One law is not all law. Have you ever tried to call your congressman? It's a very expensive call. Changing a law is beyond the freedom of 99 percent. The right to peacefully assemble, and protest, is the only recourse for most of us. Extreme examples are a tried and true method to minimize a real problem. and yes, that violent crime committed by that public servant was torture, as the screams prove. Blame the torturer.
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@cl3ify Did you take that literally? My point is that your entire argument goes like this: "I personally believe this law is wrong, therefore the police should not do their job."
No one is trying to stop you from protesting. You just need to make sure the authorities are informed when you're gathering a large amount of people.
No, blame the ones who broke the law, surrounded the police, tried to force them to hand over people under arrest and did not back off when being warned.
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore I was just doing my job, following orders, is the cop out used by far too many predators. Anyone can order anyone to do anything. The awesome aspect that distinguishes us from machines is judgement. Robots follow any order, how ever vile. Humans have the capacity to know right from wrong. To claim 'My job' while torturing people is to deny humanity, theirs and yours. Following orders in no way relieves one of the responsibility of any act. That officer did it. He's guilty.
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@MartinDenStore NO, I did not take that literally. I recognized the attempt to excuse that violent crime by comparing the victims to rapist. There is no real comparison. That form of 'Logic' is used to allow anything. We need more than that, now. Scroll down the comments. 'burn', 'kill'. We are literally facing CIVIL WAR. What are you trying to do? Issue a call to arms? You obviously have a brain. Think. At this point, that one idiot has provided a rally point. A weapon. Kids screaming in pain.
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@cl3ify Also, please don't presume that I dismiss you out of hand. I am relieved that someone is willing to present an opposing view without resorting to 'kill the pigs'. Every trial needs a defense.
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@cl3ify Funny how you say that "Every trial needs a defense." when the protesters, you're defending, tried to stop the trial from happening...
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore Good bit about the defense. You may have me there. Thinking.
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@cl3ify Fact remains you think he was doing something wrong, because YOU personally don't like the law he is enforcing. You can't come NOW and blame him for this. You should have come when the law was written.
We are not facing civil war.
They were not kids, and they were the reason the cops had to show up, and they were the ones attacking the police. Not the other way around.
You think the police should ignore calls of alarm so that they won't have to defend themselves?
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore There are legitimate ways to enforce a law. That was not one of them. The whole 'Us versus them' nonsense is getting out of hand. Acts like that only add fuel. Yes, we are facing civil war. Tens of millions desperate people will do that. Our campuses and parks are literal battle zones, complete with bullets and bombs. Another heinous act by public servants who are supposed to prevent such behavior might tip us, such as the D.C./ L.A. riots. We have put our own gun to our head.
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@MartinDenStore I personally don't care about what law he was to enforce. Plain cruelty is not the method that a civilized society employs. To paraphrase ' a culture may be judged by the condition of it's prisoners.' Our culture is reverting to the malevolence that we worked so hard to leave behind. We are a war nation. Our national anthem is a war song. We have wars on drugs, illiteracy, poverty,... and now, a never ending war on terrorism. War provides emergency powers. Law is nullified.
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@cl3ify It's not "plain cruelty" if you are the one being attacked. Because fact is, the police was surrounded, and even if they were inflicting no physical pain, put yourself in the position of the police, vastly outnumbered by people chanting "fuck you for doing your job". It's a psychologically stress-/hurtful situation, and releasing the arrested people was not the solution. I can't see many other ways to go about in a situation like that, than to strike back.
MartinDenStore 1 week ago
@MartinDenStore You keep talking about the people chanting at the police. Do you pay attention at all. It was only a small part of the crowd chanting fuck the police, and the rest of the people stopped that chant pretty quickly.
It does not matter what they chant, words are not violence. The police often put themselves in situation like that just to give themselves a made up reason to start using violence on the people.
The way you value authority over liberty is sad.
Silentsam7532 1 week ago
@MartinDenStore I have been surrounded. I don't respond well to criminal gangs. How to respond is a choice. I chose to nonviolently reason with them. That public servant chose otherwise.My method worked, surprisingly enough. His did not. I made my choice. He made his. If words hurt his feelings to the point of actual injury, he was obviously unqualified for that duty.To claim no choice is to already have made the choice. He did not have to be cruel. He chose to be.
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@cl3ify After countless times of asking them to step aside, what should he have done?
It's not his feelings that are hurt. It's the fact that he is surrounded by people screaming at him. Even if there were only a few people chanting "Fuck the Police" they were still part of the crowd surrounding the police. The other ones also clearly stated that they would have the police surrounded until the police released the arrested ones. This is restriction of freedom.
MartinDenStore 1 week ago
What happened to the constitutional right to peaceful assembly? I wish that those officers had exercised that right. Those kids were not rioting, yet they were violently attacked, as if we commoners no longer have any recourse to address real, and immediate, grievances. Shut up and go away is not how this nation was formed. Our founders were painfully aware of the powder keg that such an attitude produced. If we are forced to be silent, consume, and die, then BOOM ! Yell some. It can save a life
cl3ify 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Permission to protest. What an odd concept, like the ' Free Speech Zones ' that have become a popular way to minimize free speech. As this entire nation used to be a free speech zone, so was the right to protest considered to be a patriotic duty. That was the point of this country. We were obliged to speak out, so that the government would not become insulated from the people that it was sworn to serve. Admitting the problem is the first step. If that step is forbidden, then we are negligent.
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@cl3ify You may protest all you want without a permission as long as you don't gather a large group of people for it.
The protesters broke the law, and therefore should be punished.
Or am I allowed to download movies, forge money etc, just because I'm not "rioting" while doing so?
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore Man, you reaching too far. I'm no anarchist. In fact, I fix anarchy. If you expect me to condone theft because I don't like violent crimes, against anyone, you've got a lot to learn. The Law in this country is now very fluid. No one is sure of The Law. That's the problem. To use that vagary as an excuse to publicly torture OUR OWN CITIZENS is inexcusable.
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I watch the destruction of my country, and wonder, how far will we go? All of the way to the very edge? Over it? Are we so lost that the only solution that we may see is violence, against ourselves. Are we no longer the United States? If we are not United, what kind of States are we in? Police States? Shall we have half of our nation guarding the other half? Our country is not just one percent versus ninety nine percent. We are families, friends, and neighbors, aren't we? What matters more, law?
cl3ify 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Hypothetical wonder--- When does civil strife become civil war? Typically, when military troops are officially deployed against a nation's own civilians, en mass. This issue is clouded with the para-militarization of our civil forces. If para-military is routinely deployed against the citizens that pay for it, would that be a defacto civil war? Does a civil war have to be officially declared to be official? This question seems particularly relevant given the current program of disinformation.
cl3ify 2 weeks ago
Fucking Fag!!!
Mikey1000 2 weeks ago
All of the madness of late is like wondering which arm of an octopus just smacked us.The hits keep coming, each at the appropriate time to destroy a liberty. How can this be coordinated? Getting a bunch of people to work together, and keep the association secret, is extremely difficult. It's no wonder that many people feel that there must be some arch evil calling the shots. The pattern of our demise is old, and standard. We study history, and yet repeat it, anyway.Maybe the end really is near.
cl3ify 2 weeks ago
I'm not into conspiracy theories, but it is becoming more difficult to deny that the economic collapse is accidental. Like Germany between the world wars, we seem to be intentionally devaluing our country to make ourselves desperate. Desperate people make poor, and limited choices.That seems to be the point of all of this. Divide, and conquer. Neighbor against neighbor. Who may we turn to? Public servants, such as the officers in this video? For their protection, we must act as slaves, and kneel
cl3ify 2 weeks ago
To the point- The same tactic that we used abroad is now being employed here. Somehow, we have blamed the economic collapse on poor people, even though poor people don't have the power. The true threat of the Reagan Iran-Contra scandal was the creation of mini covert agencies that were self funding through the sale of drugs and guns. Now, NO ONE knows how many secret agencies are operating in our country.The secret police are so secret that even they don't know the extent. Another hidden cost.
cl3ify 2 weeks ago
Regarding Pakistan, it's duplicity speaks for itself, and yet, we pretended not to know. We are playing Pakistan and India against each other in a suicide game. Now, we will have India manufacture flying death drones, so that we can use them to strike for us. We have given the same death drones to Iran, to show a threat. Now that Iran possesses stealthy autonomous flying weapons platforms that might be loaded with deceit, we must attack. Again, in the land of the free, we will have no choice.
cl3ify 2 weeks ago
Many, many, many people have waved the sign BUSH KNEW. Perhaps he did, but I think that G.W. was the little boy in the room, trying not to get yelled at by his dad's friends. Yes, it was Saudi Arabia that hit us, and yes, we somehow blamed the hit on Iraq, our ally against Iran. The Bush = Bin Laden business tie does seem convenient, and manufacturing an enemy is a tried and true method of gaining control. When a real enemy won't strike, pay a friend to do it, and offer to SELL protection.
cl3ify 2 weeks ago
This is the Face of a COWARD, The face of those who were once sworn to uphold the Law but now protect the interests of Americas Corperate Elite. This is the face of an organized group of thugs, paid for by our tax dollars yet they are the same Cowards who brutalize Peaceful Protestors who are exercising the Constitutional Rights. This is the first { and most disposible} line of defense propped up to protect the NEW FASCIST REGIME. The Police in America have become AN ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.
whiteboyardy 2 weeks ago
What can be said about the intellect of a university chancellor that would wield such violent hate? At U.C. Davis, Oppression 101 is a course that is free to all.Why would people feed their children to a predator, such as her? All that the students have learned there is that recitation is safer than thinking. If you think that something is wrong, even dangerously wrong, support it anyway, or be a target. You're either with her, or against her. She is at war, with you. Surrender, or suffer!
cl3ify 2 weeks ago
@cl3ify It is the same intellect that backed GEORGE BUSH Jr in the early days of his FASCIST AGENDA. The alarming number of American Citizens with the same Hatred that cheered when Jr announced that we would retaliate against those who brought down the TWIN TOWERS. Yet we attacked Iraq, when if fact the WHITEHOUSE should have been set a blaze. Key players of the Bush Administration should have been arrested along with the co conspirators from Israel, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
whiteboyardy 2 weeks ago
By slurring his victims, the police officer elevated his violent attack to the level of a hate crime. That is typically a federal offense. Where is the authority that has been entrusted to investigate hate crimes? What is the status of the investigation? What Non Governmental Organizations are assisting in the investigation, such as the A.C.L.U.? Do hate crimes matter anymore?
cl3ify 3 weeks ago
How shall we survive this state of corporate anarchy? How may we be free in a corporately owned and operated nation? We are burning United States books. We are burning United States citizens.We are occupied by the one percent. Our country has been sold to the lowest bidder. We have done all of this ti ourselves, and for what? A small savings at a place like Walmart? Once again, we profit from slave labor. Didn't we win a war against that? How could we forget, so quickly? Don't we teach history?
cl3ify 3 weeks ago
HE SHOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF A LAWSUIT FOR THIS INCIDENT!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS! HE SHOULD BE ARRESTED, TRIED, AND JAILED FOR HIS ACTIONS!
LibertyInsurgency1 3 weeks ago
Public servants should never, ever be allowed to prey upon the public. When they do, they are public predators, and the common public has no recourse, no protection under the law. That police officer is a documented violent criminal, and he enjoys the protection under the law that he denied his victims, at the public's expense.We all paid for that crime, and we will continue to pay for it, with money, and blood. We are occupied.
cl3ify 3 weeks ago
LOL so you can get sued for a racial slur -- but pepperspraying protestors is fine..
No one give a shit about protestors but if you offend a gay person you get sues --
badpanda84 3 weeks ago
all they do is talk about freedom of speech but as soon as you say something that isnt in the socialists handbook they result to violence and try to shut you up you liberals are so stupid you cant make up your own minds you have to follow the in crowd you hate government yet you have a hard on for socialism everything you all say and do is backwards enjoy that socialist nightmare idiots
TheAngelofvengance 3 weeks ago
about time an officer had the balls to say something call me what you want i hate gays why cause there sick and twisted and im tired of the libtards pushing the whole gay thing no they shouldnt have rights there not a race or religion there freaks who have taken over just about everything its not a lifestyle its a mental disorder the same thing with liberals read all the comments i get from them they have nothing to stand on so there gonna result to name calling like nazi or facsits
TheAngelofvengance 3 weeks ago
I'm ganna asassinate Obama
iRoxproductions 3 weeks ago
The one solid fact to come from this incident is that police may attack us, in front of everyone, and be protected for it. It doesn't matter if the victims were gay, or not. All that matters now is - How much money do you have? Protection under the law is expensive. Police are above the law, as this evidence clearly demonstrates. We have been warned.
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badpanda84 3 weeks ago
Are police officers trained in McDonalds?
DiabolicHeart 1 month ago
@Solange822001 Fuck you I specifically said this suit was filed 3 years ago... And I was arguing in favor of the news so back the fuck off.
jbriggs06 1 month ago
@jbriggs06 Sorry, the reply was kind of confusing. Ill have to find the comment you were replying to and see if that clears things up
Solange822001 1 month ago
Really how so? What a cop did three years ago combined with what he did now doesn't show a pattern, or reflect his character? It is absolutely pertinent, and if I were a student at UC Davis or parent of a student you best believe my tuition money would be "talking", and telling them to fire this fascist pig
Solange822001 1 month ago
@Solange822001 "It is absolutely pertinent, and if I were a student at UC Davis or parent of a student you best believe my tuition money would be "talking","
Isnt that the problem in the first place -- if these students could let there "tution money do the talking" they why did they protest in the first place.. why not simply take your tution money elsewhere..
badpanda84 3 weeks ago
@badpanda84 Because Americans have the right to congregate and protest "peacefully" what needs to be changed, not just walk away and let it get worse. But there is away's some looser cop that has to stand out from the rest or the actual good cops, and try to illegally take those rights away. He was insighting to riot, and they were not. Pike is a coward, and un-American.
applepiebetty 3 weeks ago
@applepiebetty "But there is away's some looser cop that has to stand out from the rest or the actual good cops,"
Actually that so called "loser cop" what probably doing exactly what all the other cops wanted to do in that situation but didnt have the gut to do it.
badpanda84 3 weeks ago
@badpanda84 Your in the last semester, your classes are half done, you can't just leave and get into any collage right now. Nothing they did was probable going to change it, but they wanted to protest, so the school knew how hard this is on them. They have the right to protest, and weren't hurting anything. So why go all Genghis Khan on them? These kids did nothing aggressive before, during, or after! The school is ran by bullies.
applepiebetty 3 weeks ago
@applepiebetty "These kids did nothing aggressive before, during, or after"
Really based on what footage are you claiming they did nothing agreesive beforehand
badpanda84 3 weeks ago
@badpanda84 To this film. I have seen no other. This was a sit in... It was announced that the cops were encircled and felt they could not pass. Well they did with no problem, and not one was hit. There was space for the cops to walk anywhere they headed to.
applepiebetty 2 weeks ago
u really think that was the best way to deal with it by pissing the cops off ? haha was your own falt if u got pepper spraed
marijuanamanfan421 1 month ago
@marijuanamanfan421 Yeah but the cops voilated the 1rst ammendment
flyingjerry1 1 month ago
@marijuanamanfan421 You are somewhat right, there are many situations where although the cops' actions arent justified, the citizen is in the wrong too for provoking them or causing trouble. But peaceful protest does not apply. It is a big part of this nation's history and an important part of our democracy. Protesting peacefully should never be equated with "pissing cops off".
Solange822001 1 month ago
wow whats rong with the world people take stuff to far what just to prove a point or for a gereater cause thats what i wana know ? can some one tell me ?
marijuanamanfan421 1 month ago
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They were clearly protesting lawlessly and when asked to cooperate with the law, they maliciously didn't. They risked their heads and got what they deserved. If you asked me, they should of been taken off camera and into a police van and savagely beaten.
loh1110 1 month ago
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Arm yourselves These are not peace officers they are cold blooded killers.The cops in America are Cold blooded killers.There are very few cops left that uphold thier Oath of office. Most decent police officers have handed in thier badges. Understand these are not police they are mercenaries.Someone who will do anything for money. Most cops have to be athiest's in order to get hired and have criminal backrounds including drugs,rape yes and even Murder they are not Good American Citizens
ronpaulfreedom1 1 month ago
Notice that almost every cop is a skin head!!!
ronpaulfreedom1 1 month ago
@ronpaulfreedom1 there are skinheads(neo-nazis), then there are guys who keep their hair short for safety/looks. Most police are ex-military and have kept their hair short for years. These police officers are not skinheads.
LostMyShadesAgain 1 month ago
@ronpaulfreedom1 I'm black and shave my hair off.
DoubleAssClown 1 month ago
What the hell happened to freedom of speech? I mean, as long as he's not, say, going out and casually pepper-spraying gays, what's the problem?
Dan00bindahouse 1 month ago
@Dan00bindahouse You can't fire someone solely for being gay, it isn't considered protected speach to discriminate in employment against gays or any other protected group. Not saying this is what happened, just saying that is what the law suit is about.
durhamdf 1 month ago
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Happy MLK day every one*SSSTCHHHH* AAAAAAAAAAAAH! MY EYES! SWEET JESUS MY EYES! WHY??? WHY OBAMA WHY??
MrBaldurthegood 1 month ago
you know what could be worser than that? a gun. Oppressive!
choyyuz 1 month ago
Skin head Cops..Thier Sargent or captain whoever she is agreed it was right untill the media got involved and her job was on the line..Police need to stand down ..This is America not a friggen police state..These kind of cops are dangerous to our entire Nation and should be thrown off the police force and out the door head first !!!
ronpaulfreedom1 1 month ago
Lt. Pike is my hero.
dbull50 1 month ago
Three years ago? Really? At some point you need to get over it....
C9316 1 month ago
Let me tell you about Officer Chang (AKA the gay cop). He was fired for causing between 3-6 car collisions while on duty and being an overall liability. When he got fired he threw a bitch fit and sued in hopes of getting some form of severance. He started a witch hunt in the process, claiming that officers in the department called him homophobic slurs. After ALL THIS he had the nerve to want his JOB back, the same place where he supposedly suffered "emotional damage". Oh and btw I live in Davis
Robertjcksn40 1 month ago
@Robertjcksn40 Is there any where to get more info on this lawsuit or his firing? If what you say is true, then obviously he is unreliable. However, I still wouldn't say this gives him a pass in the pepper spray attack
Solange822001 1 month ago
@Solange822001 Sorry, I meant if its true it makes Chang unreliable, but even so, I still hoold the Captain responsible for the pepper spray attack
Solange822001 1 month ago
While I'm not going to take a stance on whether or not the officer used excessive force, there is absolutely no correlation between him being anti-gay (true or untrue) and the incident involving the pepper spraying of students. Both incidents may be appalling but are in no way related and the fact that this story aired is just another reason why people shouldn't be sheeple to the media.
styk182 1 month ago
@styk182 I think it does. I think he is a police officer who doesn't have the judgement or values to hold a badge, and both these incidents prove that. I don't see how anyone can say otherwise. They are both actions by one person. It all goes to judging his character and temperament. Lets not forget that cops have a huge responsibility, they have more power than most, not to mention deadly weapons. You really think they should be exempt from having their character or patience judged?
Solange822001 1 month ago
@socom018 did you miss the 3 years ago part? How can he bring up charges 3 years ago because hes butt hurt today?
jbriggs06 1 month ago
@jbriggs06 Did you miss the part where the lawsuit is "ongoing" and was filed years ago? The news is just bringing it to light because of the pepper spray incident, it is not the gay cop who up and decided today to sue.
Solange822001 1 month ago
Pike did absolutely nothing wrong. And these allegations are coming up because the pepper kids are butt hurt that they got what was coming to them.
SOCOM018 1 month ago
fucking faggs
wulfrano12 2 months ago
When he said it was 3 years ago, I stopped watching. This is completely irrelevant to the pepper-spray "incident".
MartinDenStore 2 months ago 16
@MartinDenStore not really.. shows his a redneck nazi in a uniform.. hates gays, police brutality ,(most likely hates minorities) sounds like a pussy nazi to me
LeGette88 3 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore It is relevant because it was about the same guy and what kind of guy he is.
Silentsam7532 2 weeks ago
@Silentsam7532 Have you even seen footage of the pepper spraying? The protesters had the police surrounded and broke the law, so the police warned them, several (many) times, that they would have to use force unless the protesters moved out of the way. The police is here to enforce the law and it was exactly what they did. This guy was just the one who had to do the "dirty" work. (As a side note, many of those who got pepper-sprayed had chanted "Fuck the police!" just minutes earlier.)
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore Warning that you will commit a crime does not excuse the crime. With freedom of speech, we may not attack each other over words. To excuse that violent attack of those public servants upon the public is exactly that. An excuse. Dirty work, indeed.
cl3ify 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore Yes many times. i see how the kids sitting on the ground hardly had them contained and were easily stepped over.
I also understand that the designers of the peppar spray have said that is not how they intended for it to be used and testing for safe use does not take into account that kind of use.
I also understand that the police are only to use force like that when someone else is using force or going to harm someone. I also understand that chanting is not violence.
You dont.
Silentsam7532 2 weeks ago
@Silentsam7532 Their behavior was threatening, even if the odds of them actually hurting a police officer directly was really low. The reason they couldn't just step over them was that they had people under arrest with them. The reason the protesters surrounded the police was to force the police to release the arrested ones.
After countless warnings, the police have all the rights to use the weakest kind of force they could, to stop the threatening law-breakers.
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore The behaviour of the police accross America is a disgraxce, and so are the actions or the government in coordinating the police through Homland security to attack these protesters.
The police had no reason to arrest anyone and the people were right to try and stop the police.
The protesters do not have to stay within the law, they actually have a duty to protest outside the law. Democracy demands that they do. They should actually group up and surround police stations.
Silentsam7532 2 weeks ago
@Silentsam7532 You nailed it. Combining civil and military force into D.H.S. changes the nature of our country. Used to be, at least officially, military intelligence agencies were forbidden from civil action. Now, it is demanded. We blamed the C.I.A. for the failure of 9-11, and then gave them the country. Being a police state is now an open secret, known, but not admitted. See you in the camp.
cl3ify 2 weeks ago
@Silentsam7532 It is easy to seek permission to protest. These protesters didn't and consequently, after several warnings, the police arrested a few of them. Just because you don't like this law, doesn't mean the police should not enforce it.
You're actually arguing that one should be able to attack the police, while they should not get to defend themselves? The people that go to work every day, knowing they might have to risk their lives to save the life of someone they don't know?
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore The police did far more than arrest a few of them. That officer actually tortured them on world wide T.V. No good deed allows that, as if the often misunderstood concept of Karma applies. To claim that it is okay to torture the public because they sometimes protect the public is malign excuse. I know cops, and I don't have the luxury of thinking that all cops are bad, or good. Cops are people too, with all that entails. That official violent crime endangers everyone, even cops.
cl3ify 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@cl3ify
1. This was not torture.
2. It was not a crime.
3. The officer actually did his job while people were filming him.
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore The idea of seeking permission to protest is stupid. Is that what people in other countries who lived under worse conditions should have done?
Read the words of the founders of America. They had very different ideas. The Occupy protesters are more enlightened than the founders by staying peaceful. Being disruptive is not the same as being violent. When the police are allowed to act that way to stop disruption America is lost.
The police had no reason to show up in force.
Silentsam7532 2 weeks ago
@Silentsam7532 Other countries are irrelevant in this case. They would have gotten the permission if they'd only asked for it. The reason there is such a law is the same as for concerts and other large public events. It's a precautionary measure since large groups of people means a larger risk of danger for everyone in that area. This law exists, and if you don't like it, don't blame the cops. Blame the ones who wrote the law.
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore No, I doubt people living under dictators would be given the right to protest if they asked for it.
The students where all on campus and the campus is designed to hold its student populations. The idea that they were breaking laws by being at school is stupid. The cops had no reason to be there and the school staff that called the police have partially admitted that doing so was a mistake.
I blame the people who are ignorant enough to not resist when their nation falls apart.
Silentsam7532 2 weeks ago
@Silentsam7532 As I said, other countries are not relevant. If they had been refused their right to protest, THEN your argumentation would be valid.
Even student organisations have to request permission to host larger gatherings.
Still, you're putting the blame on the wrong persons. If you truly believe the law is wrong, blame the one creating the law, not the one enforcing it.
To make an extreme example: I may think that a law against rape is stupid. Wouldn't you like the cops to stop me?
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore Holding large gatherings and protesting are different things. Protesters do often get legal permission to protest, or at least try. It obviously can not always be done that way. The right to protest is above laws like that, especially in a country like America.
Yes the cops are not to blame for the problems in America, but the police are taking orders from the wrong side. They are accepting large donations from banks and often taking second jobs as private security for banks.
Silentsam7532 2 weeks ago
@Silentsam7532 If you claim to be above the law, you better not complain when there are consequences. No matter what law it is.
Their job is to protect two things: Lives, and Property. Like it or not, but their job is to restrict the freedom of people, according to agreed laws. Don't ever blame the ones doing their job in a situation like this. Blame the ones who told him how to do his job, or the ones who attacked him for doing his job.
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore I never claimed to be above the law, I said the right to protest was above those laws, and yes the right to protest is above all law. Democracy can not exist without the right to protest.
In history there has been many times when police joined with the people in protest. In case you didnt know the police are people and can make decisions. Just as soldiers are going to protest, the police should as well.
It is sad that so many Americans want authority instead of liberty now.
Silentsam7532 2 weeks ago
@Silentsam7532 All of those soldiers coming home. Thank god for that. Remember last time? Tens of thousands of traumatized people suddenly thrust back into our society. Many of the people on the civil rights lines were vets. Where will they stand this time? On both sides, again? How many are like Kerry, and how many are like McVeigh? We're about to find out.
cl3ify 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Silentsam7532 You claim that one who protests is above the law, and should not have to bear any consequences, even if they inflict psychological damage on others.
So, tell me how you lost your job to strike a blow for this cause!
MartinDenStore 1 week ago
@MartinDenStore I never claimed that protesters are above the law. I keep saying very clearly that the right to protest is above law. You love to make up extra stuff that has nothing to do with this.
I never lost my job. Why would you assume that? It is strange that no matter how many times protesters talk about being at Occupy on their days off, or how some have two jobs and still can barely get by, and then have idiots yell at them to get a job.
Pay more attention.
Silentsam7532 1 week ago
@Silentsam7532 If you don't think being surrounded by a large amount of people, yelling at you, telling you you're doing your job wrong, and yelling "Fuck people with your profession", is distressing, then you're missing something. Not all violence is physical.
MartinDenStore 2 weeks ago
@MartinDenStore It is distressing, but it is not violent. If you think the police needed to be there to arrest people and cause all the violence then you have very strange views of freedom.
The police can not lawfully respond with violence when there is no one being violent. The police were the only people to do anything wrong that day. The protesters did nothing wrong.
Silentsam7532 2 weeks ago
john pike is a fat fuk. i would love to beat him like a red headed step child.
yappertrap 2 months ago
John Pike is an inspiration for people everywhere.
pyramidheadkitten9 2 months ago
That cop is my fucking hero. That what you get for
fucking with DA POLICEEE.
murdertoy 2 months ago
@murdertoy Says the fat boy.
granolanutpunch 2 months ago
@murdertoy Spoken like the pathetic coward you are.
SurvivorVeteran1 2 months ago
BAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW
"the body language of the officer was consistent of my experience with him"
Sgt Pike is my hero of November
popolynn2 2 months ago
wow... OH hey this guy's in the news! Might as well try and get some attention off of him!
CARVERitUP 2 months ago
Oh gee let me just bring up all the bad things someone has ever done just because I hate them :3
GTK3392 2 months ago
the cop did nothing wrong.. this is bull crap. and BEFORE YOU GET MAD AT ME. watch this video: watch?v=hhPdH3wE0_Y&feature=player_embedded#! and tell me if you still think the students are the "victims"
hwinans94 2 months ago
@hwinans94 The video is just a collection of clips. I went to UC Davis and I know that the protesters did nothing wrong. The assembly was completely law. I know Pike quite well, he is in fact the reason I left the school. He harass's students regularly, even to the point of following them around grocery stores. The campus will not do anything to him.
KingMKLA 2 months ago
@hwinans94 Stay clueless.
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Silveristhegold 2 months ago
@imjustaregularkid Your lack of any kind of remotely substantive comment actually says more about your own intelligence, Einstein.
TheTruthHurts9999 2 months ago
This is such a waste of our time! The retarded students were holding the police hostage and refused to let them leave. AFTER the police gave multiple warnings that they were going to use pepper spray, the students remained there chanting "fuck the police". There was nothing peaceful about their protest and they deserved to be pepper sprayed. The pepper spray incident has nothing to do with "anti-gay" slurs. This stupid propaganda is only empowering these hippy students to do more stupid things.
Jahocolips 2 months ago
@Jahocolips Gasp - students sitting on the ground were 'holding the police hostage'!!! LOL - only in your own warped fantasy. You're entitled to your own opinion - not your own set of so-called "facts'. And sorry to hear you hate one of the principles America was founded on - freedom of speech. You might be better suited for a place like Iran or Saudi Arabia.
TheTruthHurts9999 2 months ago
@TheTruthHurts9999 Do a little more research and then come back with facts, not opinions.
Jahocolips 2 months ago
@Jahocolips Um, yeah - says the person who thinks sitting on the ground is a form of taking police 'hostage!!" LOL..... You began with hysteria and lies and your response followed up with a non-response. Just what I expected!
TheTruthHurts9999 2 months ago
@TheTruthHurts9999 Look, I'm a firm supporter of the OWS movement and its clear you are as well, but you're misguided if you think encircling police officers and telling them "give us what we want and we'll let you leave" is a form of nonviolent protest. Not only did they restrain police against their will (exactly what they accuse the police of doing to them) but they broke the law while doing it. I just don't want other OWS supporters to get ideas from these guys.
Jahocolips 2 months ago
@Jahocolips So to recap you are for pepper spraying non-violent protesters, against freedom of speech, for making up stories (ie the Police were NOT held 'hostage') , and contrary to your other beliefs - totally for the OWS movement. OK! You are one CONFUSED person.
TheTruthHurts9999 2 months ago
@Jahocolips its all the damn media stories and how twisted this gets. No one sees the whole thing just the edited parts that make the cops look bad and the "poor protesters" look like the victims. SMH
hwinans94 2 months ago
@Jahocolips I believe it was "shame on you," not "fuck the police"
As in "Shame on you for employing Third Reich tactics to squelch out the first amendment" And hostages? I think not. The Uc Davis Police force had a secure perimeter of the entire area, those cops could've gotten in and out of there unscathed.
spooner113 2 months ago
UCD Police Chief Annette Spicuzza & are bums
jerrycrass 3 months ago
Fire Pike, then prosecute him & the president of UC Davis.
jerrycrass 3 months ago
that fat chink faggot needs to drop a few pounds
puntme 3 months ago
The guy is scum.
jmcadg 3 months ago
John Pike is a hero.
rp1dmc 3 months ago
@rp1dmc lol he made a woman miscarry by kicking her in the stomach...........
clevelandguy95 2 months ago
@clevelandguy95 Good.
rp1dmc 2 months ago
@rp1dmc A pathetic troll, with a pathetic comment... how surprising.
SurvivorVeteran1 2 months ago
@SurvivorVeteran1 Watch the unedited version. One less self-hating white liberal shit in the world.
rp1dmc 2 months ago
@rp1dmc Makes you no less of an ignorant troll.
SurvivorVeteran1 2 months ago
Excessive force implies that he was actually doing his job when he sprayed those kids. Clearly he wasn't doing his job because in any police manual you'll find an entire section on pepper spray, and they clearly state that pepper spray is a tool for subduing violent suspects, not dispersing nonviolent crowds. This man's job was to know this before using it, so any way you argue it he was derelict of duty when he sprayed these protesters and he should be charged with assault with a weapon.
fram4153 3 months ago
@fram4153 Well, it is also against the law to disregaurd the police, and from the raw footage shot at this event, the students were given MORE than one warning to get the fuck out. So if they did not listen, then they deserved what they got.
FreekSharkHD 2 months ago
Thank God for this video that we saw only on CBS 13 captured by photographer Dennis Marin!
009SoundVEVO 3 months ago
What a pig turd he is!
doobiesmoke15 3 months ago
How could this have only 1,886 views after 2 days?
ProgressiveOptionsTV 3 months ago
@ProgressiveOptionsTV Maybe because it's a re-upload
danwat1234 3 months ago
Lt. John PIke is one jacked up, ready to push the trigger at all times kinda guy. You know, the type that would blast twenty rounds into your grandma if she tapped him on the shoulder to ask for directions...
TheTruthHurts9999 3 months ago 23