Sonntagsgespräch mit Jürgen Todenhöfer...."Wer sind die eigentlichen Terroristen???"

[ittagullah]

spätestens am jüngsten tag des gerichts, muss jeder rechenschafft ablegen, und vielleicht wird jesus frieden auf ihm, dein richter sein, genau da wird, jeder wissen was er getan hat!!!!

[trannyniggr]

@Shiore2002 nur weil die amis scheisse sind (keine frage), heisst es ja nicht dass die araber nicht NOCH schlimmer sind. was ist dir lieber, mäckes an der autobahn oder hand/kopf ab? und wenn du sharia so toll findest, warum kannst du dann deutsch schreiben? wozu? du willst mir doch nicht erzählen, dass du deutscher bist. oder islamist, und in deutschland lebst. sowas glaubst dir doch KEINER in saudi arabien! niemals! :D

[GeertToole]

@Shiore2002

Du bist ein Rassist du pauschalisierst und es gab außerdem einen Völkermord an den Armeniern im Osmanischen Reich 1,5 Armenier starben.

Der einzige der Massenmörder verteidigt bist du Mohammed war ein Massenmörder

[OsamaBinKathr]

You think its a war when one side loses 5000 soldiers and the others have 1 million civilian deaths and 2300 dead soldiers???

You guys fight GREAT wars I see. War is for pussies who cant socialize with the world, seriously!

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: Sure, but once, when Einstein is right and in World War IV the people fight with clubs again, and the Mongols do return at last to the global stage, would you dare to tell them so? Remember: Genghis Kahn had a million Persians slain just because his envoy was beheaded in Persia! Besides the losses do not define war as the world should know from reading the book of Carl von Clausewitz, who I will quote in his native tongue right now:

[GreatGrumbledook]

"Wir wollen hier nicht erst in eine schwerfällige publizistische Definition des Krieges hineinsteigen, sondern uns an das Element desselben halten, an den Zweikampf. Der Krieg ist nichts als ein erweiterter Zweikampf. Wollen wir uns die Unzahl der einzelnen Zweikämpfe, aus denen er besteht, als Einheit denken, so tun wir besser, uns zwei Ringende vorzustellen. Jeder sucht den anderen durch physische Gewalt zur Erfüllung seines Willens zu zwingen; sein nächster Zweck ist, den Gegner ...

[OsamaBinKathr]

And Carl von Clausewitz did not prefer war. I dont think you can back up your pro war comments with his quotes since he said: "Der Krieg ist also ein Akt der Gewalt, um den Gegner zur Erfüllung unseres Willens zu zwingen"; but defined later (in regard of BELIEVES who cant be fully supressed by brute force) that you should have a large army to PREVENT wars. War is the LAST stand of politics, and NEVER the best.

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: Such foul insults against the great philosopher of war should be made a court martial offence, to be punished by immediate death by firing squad! Besides one should always note that Prussia, as much as she did resemble Sparta in her military mobilisation and warlike spirit was still haunted by strong Christian delusions! The Soldiers King, Friedrich-Wilhelm I. the very farther of great king Friedrich was afraid of wagging unjust wars and therefore never used his formidable army.

[OsamaBinKathr]

Well, I do believe a dialogue is much more effective than war. The cold war did not mutate to a hot war, because we had DIALOGUES.

And I cant believe you want war that much, do you?What good is it to force people to your believes by killing them?And please don't talk about clubwars and mongols, since we are not living in 10.000 bc and I think we should concentrate on living peacefully beside each other and don't kill innocents or anyone for stupid religious, capitalistic or communistic believes.

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: Do you foul pacifist creature claim that I do not want wars? Besides it is of course heinous blasphemy against Pallas Athena, the immortal daughter of Zeus, and the other war gods, I will always reply with quoting both Heraklitus and Oswald Spengler; to begin with the Greek: "War is both father and king of all, some he has shown forth as gods and others as men, some he has made slaves and others free." - and to continue with the German, in German of course:

[OsamaBinKathr]

And I am no pacifist, since I see the necessaryity of some wars, but I like seeing them prevented by dialogues. Rebuilding destroyed countrys cost the same as leading another war. More deads amongst innocents than soldiers.

Beneficiary is the élite, not the people!

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: Peace mongering is peace mongering; and I do care very little for the fraud feuding between the idealistic and pragmatic faction of the ever-treacherous, depraved peace party; besides Machiavelli said that was can never be prevented but only postponed to the advance of one side or the other. While war costs are insignificant as one does not wage war for economic reasons, save the English, who attacked China once to archive the right for their merchants to sell opium there.

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: The HAL 9000 mad computer phenomena does bar me from quoting Oswald Spengler; and stop whining about dialogue and peace: Or do you think Charles Martel would have saved France and all Europe from utter destruction by having a discussion with the foul Saracen invaders? Did words liberate fair Spain from the oppression of the Moors? Was Jerusalem freed with talking? Or was all this done by fair war and his three attendants, lean famine, quartering steel, and climbing fire?

[OsamaBinKathr]

If the the war against soviet union broke out and europe and america would have won against them, you would say that they freed us from the opression of the bad communistic believes.

You just herofy wars, and dont see that civilians are the people who suffer the most.

You cant expect that they fight wars, just for the sake of a war.

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: Well, normally civilian losses in wars should be reduced but then again, as Machiavelli said:

[GreatGrumbledook]

"... because how one lives is so far distant from how one ought to live, that he who neglects what is done for what ought to be done, sooner effects his ruin than his preservation; for a man who wishes to act entirely up to his professions of virtue soon meets with what destroys him among so much that is evil. Hence it is necessary for a prince wishing to hold his own to know how to do wrong, and to make use of it or not according to necessity."

[OsamaBinKathr]

I will stop talking to you now, since the best you got are some quotes of people who were born and died long before.

We live in 2010, there arent wars anymore with muskets and swords. Nowadays they can kill 5000 people in less a second. You really want to fight wars? Then get someone you can play swordsmanship with since i don't want mininukes in my garden.

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: Well, though it is a good thing that you do now claim to be quiet in the future it would have been much better if you would not have spoken at all! And I will wage wars to your foul disgrace and utter ruin of the Camel Merchant Cult! If Oswald Spengler is right on the current crisis of world economics as he was 80 years ago much sooner as you think:

[OsamaBinKathr]

And by the way, he visited the hot areas (without 200 bodyguards, my friend) and visits them regulary. SO please do not think he's some politician who goes there with his vest and helmet, resides in some presidential palace and leaves 2 days later ;)

He talked to an actual "terrorist" while you wont even consider to talk with them, just killem all and shit on their believes and families, yes?

Did you even understand what he talked about?

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: Unfortunately I did; and while in former times the student blockheads from Munich, the White Rose folks, where put to execution, merely for saying that the late German ruler Hitler is an ass, as in the world and that they will verify as much in his beard that he has no more directions in the true disciplines of the wars, look you, of the Roman disciplines, than is a puppy-dog, after the German defeat at Stalingrad in the last war, he will escape justice for now but not for ever!

[OsamaBinKathr]

Dude, honestly, I can't stay calm anymore.

Fags like you vote for war and you have to be aware that you guys, are 0.5 percent of the world.

Please ally yourself with the other fags so you can found your own country and have wars against any country you like, since we can deal with 0.5 percent very well.

And stop talking about jersualem being freed. jerusalem never belonged to the french or germans or any other european country since it is half a world journey away.

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: No change oriental bedwetting type! As useless Christendom is (worshipping the prince of peace is a disgrace for warlike Europe!) but it was a unity in medieval times, as ancient Greece was; and as Jerusalem was in Greek/East Roman hands, when it was lost to the onslaught of the Camel Merchant Cult, every Christian nation had the right to liberate it as French and Norman troops did in 1099 AD; and the victorious First Crusade was expressly devised to help Byzantium!

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: For the insult I will call you a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch: ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

@OsamaBinKathr: ... one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if thou deniest the least syllable of thy addition.

[besides I am no dude]

[Grothur]

claudi, claudi ... wer weisheit mit ss schreibt und muslimisch nicht buchstabieren kann, mithin nicht einmal seine eigene Sprache beherrscht, der beherbergt automatisch argumente die gegen ihn sprechen =) wären wir doch nur alle wie du claudi... wärest du auf der anderen seite geboren worden, welch großer selbstmord-attentäter du doch sein würdest. mit deiner dummheit erfüllst du die besten voraussetzungen !

[claudi8875]

Alles schwachsinn ! Der Moderator ist oder stellt sich dumm. Und der Todenhöfer ( wer ist das überhaupt)

tut so als hätte er die weissheit mit mosslemsch´n Löffel gegessen . Sieht aus wie ein Freimaurer , spricht wie ein Freimaurer . . . feuer frei.

Für mich und mein Verständnis ist die " Diskussion " weit verfehlt !

thx 4 upp

[Samsun55]

Dieser Moderator ist sowas von Mies!

Anstatt an die Sache objektiv ranzugehen, zeigt er selbst was für Vorurteile und Ahnung dieser Mann hat...Nämlich nichts!

Die Wahrheit verkraftet halt nicht jeder Mann!

[yengec280]

lebt dieser mann noch?

[sOLidaritaet90]

ich erinnere mich an todenhöfer nur noch an den, der von herbert wehner als "hodentöter" bezeichnet wurde.

[claudi8875]

hodentöter xDD , wie geil

[vbsmichi]

das einzig schlecht ist.............der moderator^^

[dischua]

was soll man da noch hinzufügen??

der mann hat recht!!!!

[albmuslim02]

Selamu Aleykum wr wb

BarakAllahu feeki Ukhti für dieses Video...

Endlich sagt mal einer die Wahrheit.

Hoffentlich kapieren die Menschen wer im wirklichkeit die Terroristen sind.